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Post by inquiring mind on Aug 10, 2007 11:18:05 GMT -5
Who is fmofthe2x2s?
This guy, some people call him Bryan, is a kind of TMB enigma.
What's with this guy?
He seems to follow people around picking fights and just looking for fault. He doesn't seem to have much to offer conversationally. He doesn't start conversations. He just tries to finish them. His specialty is ambush style conversation take-overs.
Is he sitting on the fence?
His antagonism doesn't seem to be reserved for one group of people. He picks on 2x2's and ex-2x2's. A while back he was picking on the 2x2's but now lately he's shifted back to picking on the ex-2x2's. Is he a 2x2, an ex-2x2 or does he hate everyone the same?
Why is he here?
Someone accused him of hacking IP's. Is this true?
Someone accused him of being a trolling atheist. Is this true?
Someone accused him of being the admin. Is this true?
Someone accused him of hacking the admins account. Is this true?
I want to put this guy in the proper context when I read his posts so please put your input here.
BTW - given his history, I estimate his most likely response to my post will be "What's your problem?". This is quick and short and seems to be one of his favorite ways to pick a fight
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Post by las logged out on Aug 10, 2007 11:20:49 GMT -5
Bryan see's threw the 2x2 group for what they are and it sounds like Bryan's got the right doctrine stuff
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Post by las logged out on Aug 10, 2007 11:22:51 GMT -5
I think if the TMB was hijacked the admin would of spoken up long time ago on other sites and such
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Post by _ on Aug 10, 2007 13:20:50 GMT -5
me not much.... must mean i'm a troll... no... Are you upset that I don't tow the party line? I don't hate anyone here... I like to party... I do not recall this accusation... I do not recall this accusation... no... no... What's your problem?
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Post by gloryintruth on Aug 10, 2007 21:10:34 GMT -5
[Someone Wrote] Who is fmofthe2x2s? This guy, some people call him Bryan, is a kind of TMB enigma. What's with this guy?
His name is Bryan Hickok. He lives in Canada. He is married, and I believe he has one child. He is in his late 20's, and in the past 5 or 6 years has been active across a number of boards and forums discussing the fellowship.
A couple of months ago Bryan exposed my name, location, and some of my personal history in this forum - despite the fact that I registered here anonymously to protect such details, and to preserve family from any embarrassment that could be caused.
(This is why I do NOT, as a consistent rule, mention people by name on this forum, or even discuss people who do not particpate here. I think I have never broken this personal rule.)
As a consequence of seeing my details placed on a public forum, some anonymous posters decided to go through the internet searching for my name. They posted links to the many articles and posts I had made in different places through the years (someone even posted a link to a website with some of my joking posts I made in connection to the 2001 Australian election - and we're talking about it being 2007; as if this is relevant!)
I re-entered a cycle of depression as a result. Connections were being made between me and things that I had no involvement in whatsoever. The final straw was being called "a waste of space" by some anonymous poster. I left this forum for about two or three months in order to recover.
I chose not to answer most of Bryan's questions, because I have answered them in the past and I do not see why the endless cycle should be endured. I therefore make the choice to be the circuit-breaker in some threads aimed at my direction.
I hope this helps to illuminate the "enigma" a bit better.
Regards.
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Post by in other words on Aug 10, 2007 21:23:53 GMT -5
In other words, GIT feels free to believe that non-2x2s are doomed to a lost eternity even though he doesn't have the personal integrity to admit it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2007 21:37:18 GMT -5
quote - "Bryan see's (sic) threw the 2x2 group for what they are and it sounds like Bryan's got the right doctrine stuff"
... er Las, this, "for what they are..." What ARE we? and this "right doctrine stuff" What is THAT to you?
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Post by the words of a few workers on Aug 11, 2007 0:44:59 GMT -5
And therein is the problem. [And the convention crowd would laugh and smile.]
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Post by wanttobewithGod on Aug 11, 2007 0:54:31 GMT -5
[Someone Wrote] Who is fmofthe2x2s? This guy, some people call him Bryan, is a kind of TMB enigma. What's with this guy?His name is Bryan Hickok. He lives in Canada. He is married, and I believe he has one child. He is in his late 20's, and in the past 5 or 6 years has been active across a number of boards and forums discussing the fellowship. A couple of months ago Bryan exposed my name, location, and some of my personal history in this forum - despite the fact that I registered here anonymously to protect such details, and to preserve family from any embarrassment that could be caused. (This is why I do NOT, as a consistent rule, mention people by name on this forum, or even discuss people who do not particpate here. I think I have never broken this personal rule.) As a consequence of seeing my details placed on a public forum, some anonymous posters decided to go through the internet searching for my name. They posted links to the many articles and posts I had made in different places through the years (someone even posted a link to a website with some of my joking posts I made in connection to the 2001 Australian election - and we're talking about it being 2007; as if this is relevant!) I re-entered a cycle of depression as a result. Connections were being made between me and things that I had no involvement in whatsoever. The final straw was being called "a waste of space" by some anonymous poster. I left this forum for about two or three months in order to recover. I chose not to answer most of Bryan's questions, because I have answered them in the past and I do not see why the endless cycle should be endured. I therefore make the choice to be the circuit-breaker in some threads aimed at my direction. I hope this helps to illuminate the "enigma" a bit better. Regards. Just wanted to say that I am so *absolutely* sad that this happened to you. No one is a waste of space, and you for sure are NOT. (((((((((GIT)))))))))))) Mich
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Post by _ on Aug 11, 2007 1:17:49 GMT -5
I do not live in Canada and I am not in my late 20's.
Everything I said was common knowledge... And if it was not common knowledge, then how did I know it?
Can you answer that?
Two things -
1. You did a poor job of hiding who you were, if in fact that was your intention...
2. Just because you registered under a false name does not give you any special rights... And your argument that I exposed you is totally absurd, since everything I stated was common knowledge.
You just broke this rule by stating my name... and you've called me by name in the past... do you deny this?
With all due respect, If an anonymous person calling you "a waste of space" leads you to leaving this board for a significant period of time and compounds a "cycle of depression", then perhaps your skin isn't thick enough to be here...
Since I've never asked many of the questions, how could you have answered them in the past?
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Post by las logged out on Aug 11, 2007 8:28:04 GMT -5
quote - "Bryan see's (sic) threw the 2x2 group for what they are and it sounds like Bryan's got the right doctrine stuff" ... er Las, this, "for what they are..." What ARE we? and this "right doctrine stuff" What is THAT to you? To Bert I believe the right doctrine stuff is believing Jesus is God I cannot remember the 2x2s teaching this? what do you say Bert I could go on and on I'll stop at this
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Post by Who is Bryan H on Aug 11, 2007 11:20:41 GMT -5
Who is fmofthe2x2s?Birth name is Bryan A Hickok. Born June 1977. Age 30. Raised as a only child to a single mother. www.zabasearch.com type in BRYAN A HICKOK for address and telephone number.This guy, some people call him Bryan, is a kind of TMB enigma.He will stalk and dissect all your postings and will only answer by using links to other websites or by quoting words of other people. Truly doesn’t have a spine of his own.
Likes to get the last word in and believes what he says and think is the truthWhat's with this guy?He is unemployed and doesn’t have much of anything else to do. His self-esteem is by building on the backs of those he puts down.He seems to follow people around picking fights and just looking for fault. He doesn't seem to have much to offer conversationally. He doesn't start conversations. He just tries to finish them. His specialty is ambush style conversation take-overs.True, very true. He wouldn’t ever admit it either.Is he sitting on the fence?He doesn’t know, how would we?His antagonism doesn't seem to be reserved for one group of people. He picks on 2x2's and ex-2x2's. A while back he was picking on the 2x2's but now lately he's shifted back to picking on the ex-2x2's. Is he a 2x2, an ex-2x2 or does he hate everyone the same?It’s a self-esteem thing.Why is he here?He doesn’t have anything better to do, since he is unemployedSomeone accused him of hacking IP's. Is this true?Self renounce computer geek, but he isn’t much of oneSomeone accused him of being a trolling atheist. Is this true?He doesn’t like that others troll and bump posting, it seems it is okay for him to do so.Someone accused him of being the admin. Is this true?All of the boards that Bryan has started, have or are defunct. He likes to be in total control, which in turn doesn’t let people be as expressive as they should be.Someone accused him of hacking the admins account. Is this true?Hacking, NO, doing other slimy things, YESI want to put this guy in the proper context when I read his posts so please put your input here.Does JERK come to mind?BTW - given his history, I estimate his most likely response to my post will be "What's your problem?". This is quick and short and seems to be one of his favorite ways to pick a fightHis problem? His problem is that we do not all agree with him. Most of us have a spine and can tell in our own words where we are in our Christian experience. Remember, he is a only children
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Post by las logged out on Aug 11, 2007 11:51:13 GMT -5
Well if parents got kids around the house who is going to look after them the parents or the baby sitter...baby sitters cost money?
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Post by So Then on Aug 11, 2007 12:12:24 GMT -5
Who is Jason L.? For that Matter who is the Admins? Who is Bert? Who is Wannabe? Who is InnocentQ? Who is Who is?
I seems to me that the strong 2x2 proponents want to remain hidden while asking everyone else to tell who they are. Typical-double standard.
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Post by ii on Aug 11, 2007 17:57:26 GMT -5
Who is Jason L.? For that Matter who is the Admins? Who is Bert? Who is Wannabe? Who is InnocentQ? Who is Who is? I seems to me that the strong 2x2 proponents want to remain hidden while asking everyone else to tell who they are. Typical-double standard. and who is so then?
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Post by gloryintruth on Aug 11, 2007 20:26:29 GMT -5
I do not live in Canada and I am not in my late 20's. I apologise for the inaccuracy of my facts. For some reason I seemed to recall you saying, or someone else saying, that you were Canadian. Obviously my recollection is hazy. I am sorry to publish inaccurate info about you on this forum, Bryan, and I make a full retraction of my comments.
Everything I said was common knowledge... And if it was not common knowledge, then how did I know it? This was your argument before. That what you wrote was "common knowledge". The trouble is, if you go back and have a look at what actually transpired, the knowledge was "common" to only one person: you.
The reason you knew who I was was is easy to answer. About five years ago, both of us had been active on a certain forum. I think my handle was "Jeremiah" or something like that. As people tell me, my writing style is distinct, so it would have been easy for you to put two-and-two together (no pun intended) and make a connection to my identity.
1. You did a poor job of hiding who you were, if in fact that was your intention... My intention was the same as everyone else on this forum who does not feel comfortable disclosing every bit of information about themselves: to stay anonymous but still interact online.
Moreover, the only people who guessed at my identity were yourself and maybe two or three others. This explains the number of questions regarding who I was, and where I was from.
2. Just because you registered under a false name does not give you any special rights... And your argument that I exposed you is totally absurd, since everything I stated was common knowledge. As you keep saying. Yet I disagree. It was not common knowledge at all. My evidence for making this statement is the number of people who started (suddenly) asking who I was, and where I was from. Quite a number of participants said they had no idea about my identity - in fact, one person who posted saying as such, was one man you said knew my personal details!
Furthermore, whilst you are right in saying that a plome de nume does not give anyone any special rights, it does communicate, however, the owner's intention to keep private his or her personal details. By not respecting that intention, you broke one of the unwritten rules of cyber-interaction.
You just broke this rule by stating my name... and you've called me by name in the past... do you deny this? This really is "common knowledge". People frequently address you as Bryan, and you respond to them. Moreover, when you were harassing Nathan a whiles back, he managed to work out your identity. You did not deny or confirm it - because you obviously wanted to get Nathan's back up, and enjoyed his agitation over your refusal to answer the direct question - but I distinctly recall you did say you did not care who knew.
You have posted links to your personal webpage, which also contains links to your wife's pregnancy blog. I did not start referring to you as "Bryan" until recently, long AFTER, you had posted such links. You've broadcast your name to the world, so it is no surprise I should know it.
With all due respect, If an anonymous person calling you "a waste of space" leads you to leaving this board for a significant period of time and compounds a "cycle of depression" then perhaps your skin isn't thick enough to be here... With all due respect, Bryan, you have no idea what it is like to live with profound stress and anxiety. Clearly you have little understanding of "triggers"; or what it is like to function in a job where you are dealing with many human problems on a daily basis. I choose to be here, because I do not think my depression, stress and anxiety should rule my life.
Since I've never asked many of the questions, how could you have answered them in the past? I did not suggest you asked the questions. But the same questions have been put to me within threads in which you contributed. I answered these questions there (many times).
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Post by _ on Aug 11, 2007 20:55:32 GMT -5
Who is fmofthe2x2s?Birth name is Bryan A Hickok. Born June 1977. Age 30. Raised as a only child to a single mother. www.zabasearch.com type in BRYAN A HICKOK for address and telephone number.This guy, some people call him Bryan, is a kind of TMB enigma.He will stalk and dissect all your postings and will only answer by using links to other websites or by quoting words of other people. Truly doesn’t have a spine of his own.
Likes to get the last word in and believes what he says and think is the truthWhat's with this guy?He is unemployed and doesn’t have much of anything else to do. His self-esteem is by building on the backs of those he puts down.He seems to follow people around picking fights and just looking for fault. He doesn't seem to have much to offer conversationally. He doesn't start conversations. He just tries to finish them. His specialty is ambush style conversation take-overs.True, very true. He wouldn’t ever admit it either.Is he sitting on the fence?He doesn’t know, how would we?His antagonism doesn't seem to be reserved for one group of people. He picks on 2x2's and ex-2x2's. A while back he was picking on the 2x2's but now lately he's shifted back to picking on the ex-2x2's. Is he a 2x2, an ex-2x2 or does he hate everyone the same?It’s a self-esteem thing.Why is he here?He doesn’t have anything better to do, since he is unemployedSomeone accused him of hacking IP's. Is this true?Self renounce computer geek, but he isn’t much of oneSomeone accused him of being a trolling atheist. Is this true?He doesn’t like that others troll and bump posting, it seems it is okay for him to do so.Someone accused him of being the admin. Is this true?All of the boards that Bryan has started, have or are defunct. He likes to be in total control, which in turn doesn’t let people be as expressive as they should be.Someone accused him of hacking the admins account. Is this true?Hacking, NO, doing other slimy things, YESI want to put this guy in the proper context when I read his posts so please put your input here.Does JERK come to mind?BTW - given his history, I estimate his most likely response to my post will be "What's your problem?". This is quick and short and seems to be one of his favorite ways to pick a fightHis problem? His problem is that we do not all agree with him. Most of us have a spine and can tell in our own words where we are in our Christian experience. Remember, he is a only children Although I hesitate responding directly to the troll and his/her post above, I do feel motivated to correct some factual errors... address - My current address is not listed on the link unemployed - I am a full time stay at home dad of one, with twins on the way... which means in a few months I will be staying home with 3 kids under the age of 2, along with owning/running a small business... If that's your definition of " unemployed and doesn’t have much of anything else to do", then you're quite insane... self renounced computer geek - I worked in IT for 5 years before becoming a full time stay at home dad.... I know a little bit of what I'm talking about when it comes to computer related topics/issues...
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Post by _ on Aug 11, 2007 21:38:03 GMT -5
I really do not understand why you keep bringing up this issue... it's getting old and we just simply disagree... I will continue to respond to your questions/statements/posts on this topic, but you simply will not come to terms with the fact what I wrote was common knowledge...
You did not answer my question... if it was not common knowledge, then how did I know it?
I fail to understand why you're bringing up this topic again.
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I do not recall you being Jeremiah... even so, how would I know you from this Jeremiah person without you deliberately revealing who you were?
What I wrote was common knowledge and did not disclose every bit of information about you...
And, once again, if it was not common knowledge, then how did I know it?
You really need to move on, get over it, and stop using this issue as a red herring...
Someone asked who GIT is/was... I simply provided that poster with common knowledge regarding who you were...
Nothing is ever known by all... for example, you believed I lived in Canada... Yet it is common knowledge that I live in Alaska...
As stated above, just because some might not have known, does not negate it from being common knowledge... such as you not knowing I live in Alaska... which is common knowledge...
I do not know what you're talking about... please clarify...
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Not at all... My intention using fmofthe2x2s was never to hide who I am... You are making a very broad and wide sweeping assumption...
But more importantly, your writing style gives you away... you blame me for "exposing" you, when in fact you will always be exposed by your writing style unless you change it for the purpose of remaining anonymous.
When are you going to get over this?
Irrelevant to you rule...
I was never hiding it...
What he was doing was misspelling my name... So when he asked if I was brian hickock, I said no because I'm not brian hickock... It was not an attempt to hide who I am, but rather an attempt to get nathan to spell my name correctly... and when he did I answered his question in the affirmative...
As have you in the past...
Since I've posted such links long before you signed up as GiT earlier this year, your point is irrelevant...
Good to hear that you do not want such things to rule your life... But how does that change the fact that you probably shouldn't be here if an anonymous person calling you "a waste of space" leads you to leaving this board for a significant period of time and compounds a "cycle of depression"?
Then simply copy and paste your answer as a response to my new questions... if in fact they are direct responses to my specific questions... which they are not... which means we are back to square one... you not answering the questions...
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Post by wanttobewithGod on Aug 12, 2007 0:30:03 GMT -5
Who is Jason L.? For that Matter who is the Admins? Who is Bert? Who is Wannabe? Who is InnocentQ? Who is Who is? I seems to me that the strong 2x2 proponents want to remain hidden while asking everyone else to tell who they are. Typical-double standard. and who is so then? LOL. Yeah, really! For Pete's sake, do you know how many times on this board, just in the last 2 months or so, I have said exactly who I am (minus last name) on here??? I have given my location, name, family history in the 2x2 religion, personal history in the 2x2 religion...what do you want, my social security number??? lol. (No, you're not getting that.) Anyway, seriously...I have always told the truth about who I am. It is really *your* problem, I think, if you choose not to believe it. Why is it so important anyway?? I also think it's pretty common knowledge who some of the others are as well. Why do you have so many misgivings about every else's truthfulness? In my past experience, I've found that it's usually the one pointing the finger the longest that is the most guilty......... M. (aka "wannabe" with God)
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Post by ii on Aug 12, 2007 1:47:46 GMT -5
LOL. Yeah, really! For Pete's sake, do you know how many times on this board, just in the last 2 months or so, I have said exactly who I am (minus last name) on here??? I have given my location, name, family history in the 2x2 religion, personal history in the 2x2 religion...what do you want, my social security number??? lol. (No, you're not getting that.) Anyway, seriously...I have always told the truth about who I am. It is really *your* problem, I think, if you choose not to believe it. Why is it so important anyway?? I also think it's pretty common knowledge who some of the others are as well. Why do you have so many misgivings about every else's truthfulness? In my past experience, I've found that it's usually the one pointing the finger the longest that is the most guilty......... M. (aka "wannabe" with God) twas not aimed at you sister but directed at the one to who my post answered ;D
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Post by and so on Aug 12, 2007 2:13:40 GMT -5
...so who is "ii"?
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Post by wanttobewithGod on Aug 12, 2007 2:19:16 GMT -5
ii....oh, I know...mine was directed at "so then" too.... sorry 'bout the mixup. M.
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Post by ranman77007 on Aug 12, 2007 2:48:05 GMT -5
if its bryan from alaska, and used to be bryan1231@hotmail, or something like that, he is one of the first i actually met here, years ago, but does he remember? he sent me his link to his site with all his family pics...pretty cool... i am assuming that thats the bryan here.... is that you bryan? uhooh ...wannabee will see that and jump on me.... i was just kidding, its really bryan rumplestiltskin.... from the cacao bean forest@coldmail.net
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Post by porkys dilemna on Aug 12, 2007 2:48:17 GMT -5
GIT...you ain't no Alaskan. Your british style of expressing yourself gives that away. No Alaskan would ever use the word "whilst". Unless you are an English or Aussie...or even a Canadian import....you sure ain't from Alaska. Fess up now.
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Post by wanttobewithGod on Aug 12, 2007 2:58:12 GMT -5
no, not jumping on you at all, Randy. Just wonder why you have this issue of putting OTHER people's private info out for anyone to see. Perhaps it's not a big deal to Bryan, but to others you've done it to, it IS a big deal. Is it really necessary to be so rude? Just because someone shares something with *you* doesn't mean they want it to be public knowledge..that's all. Not jumping all over you...just commenting on common courtesy is all! M.
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Post by ii on Aug 12, 2007 3:00:17 GMT -5
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Post by ranman77007 on Aug 12, 2007 4:41:05 GMT -5
no, not jumping on you at all, Randy. Just wonder why you have this issue of putting OTHER people's private info out for anyone to see. Perhaps it's not a big deal to Bryan, but to others you've done it to, it IS a big deal. Is it really necessary to be so rude? Just because someone shares something with *you* doesn't mean they want it to be public knowledge..that's all. Not jumping all over you...just commenting on common courtesy is all! M. if i answer, i'll just be wasting my breath. you met me less than a month ago, and judged me. i'll take my turn later, if i get a turn. this is the _ _ofthe__x__s thread. but i guess you can post on common courtesy. as long as its pointing a finger at me, you should be ok, maybe even make some more friends, or cause a few people to like me a little less anyway. notice folks, the attempt by everyone here to post about bryan, and he don't seem angry about that. and EVERYONE here did it, but my little post, which was actually nice, wannabee throws it in my face. God forbid i should post my thoughts on fmofthe2x2s, even though thats the name of the thread. believe it or not, some people do not even know they are attacking someone else, even when its pretty clear.. lmao.... (typical american)
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Post by gloryintruth on Aug 12, 2007 5:51:02 GMT -5
[Porkys dilemna Wrote] GIT...you ain't no Alaskan. Your british style of expressing yourself gives that away. No Alaskan would ever use the word "whilst". Unless you are an English or Aussie...or even a Canadian import....you sure ain't from Alaska. Fess up now. Most people know I am an Australian. I never said I was from Alaska.
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