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Post by Opinion on Aug 7, 2007 8:16:13 GMT -5
Some professing parents try hard to raise their children in a worker fearing home. The servants may get their mail there. They may have fellowship meetings and worker visits. They attend each and every meeting in their field. Yet their children have no intention of professing. I know it grieves the hearts of their parents. However few parents want to understand WHY their children aren't professing. Maybe it is because they are TOO STRICT. Or their children are educated enough to see that there isn't one right church out there. Or the archaic dress code that traces back to Victorian England. Or the hidden history of the fellowship.
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Post by freespirit on Aug 7, 2007 8:46:18 GMT -5
Some professing parents try hard to raise their children in a worker fearing home. I think you hit it on this head with this statement. Whenever we become worker-fearing instead of God fearing, we're in trouble. We gotta look up and focus on Jesus, not these nutty rules. peace to all, freespirit
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Post by withopeneyes (Mandy) on Aug 7, 2007 9:28:15 GMT -5
My brother-in-law never professed because people within meetings didn't treat him very well. He had some problems growing up, and therefore was seen has the bad kid (and my husband was seen as the "angel"). My BIL's problem were beyond his control (behavioral, due to a chemical embalance which he "grew out of").
I knw that parents also weep over the children that seemed to really be passionate about God and then left meetings. That's how my mom feels about my husband and I. She doesn't understand that it was God that led us out of meetings.
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Post by A sailor on Aug 7, 2007 10:46:09 GMT -5
Time was, when parents would weep when their sons would sail off to sea, knowing that the Earth was flat, and that thier offspring was going to fall off the edge.
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Post by las logged on Aug 7, 2007 10:49:49 GMT -5
Some professing parents try hard to raise their children in a worker fearing home. The servants may get their mail there. They may have fellowship meetings and worker visits. They attend each and every meeting in their field. Yet their children have no intention of professing. I know it grieves the hearts of their parents. However few parents want to understand WHY their children aren't professing. Maybe it is because they are TOO STRICT. Or their children are educated enough to see that there isn't one right church out there. Or the archaic dress code that traces back to Victorian England. Or the hidden history of the fellowship. Right the kids nowadays because of the Internet are miles ahead of the rest...go kids go tell your parents the truth about the truth that way you can say you done your part eh? GO GO GO
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Post by déjà vu on Aug 7, 2007 20:45:08 GMT -5
My daughter woul be better off dead .Quote by mother whose daugther quit professing
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Post by Visiting on Aug 9, 2007 9:20:38 GMT -5
Some professing parents try hard to raise their children in a worker fearing home. The servants may get their mail there. They may have fellowship meetings and worker visits. They attend each and every meeting in their field. Yet their children have no intention of professing. I know it grieves the hearts of their parents. However few parents want to understand WHY their children aren't professing. Maybe it is because they are TOO STRICT. Or their children are educated enough to see that there isn't one right church out there. Or the archaic dress code that traces back to Victorian England. Or the hidden history of the fellowship. You are probably right here, much as I'd like to disagree, that this has been an issue for some, but not all. We were brought up aware that the workers were human, and as such prone to failure, and that it was God we stood before and worshiped. The workers were to be respected where respect was due but not worshiped. Traditions come and go (clothes etc) and will never get us into heaven. Only Christ's blood has paid that price and the choice is ours as to whether we avail ourselves of it. And yes it grieves the heart of parents as they want their children to have the best - and they are partaking of the best from God.
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Post by withopeneyes (Mandy) on Aug 14, 2007 17:07:36 GMT -5
Wingsofaneagle,
That's basically how my husband's family sees things too. Even though I have done nothing wrong, I have always been the one they pointed the finger at. When my husband began to pull away from his mother, it was my fault (nevermind the fact that she was the one calling me horrible names and trying to convince him not to marry me... even though I had done nothing against her). When my marriage was rocky, it was MY fault... definitely couldn't have been my husband's. And, because I was already a little "off" since I cut/dyed my hair and wore makeup and pants..... it was obviously my fault when we left meetings.
My husband has definitely made it known that we have much more peace and joy outside than we did inside "the fold" of 2x2s. My children have a much better understanding of Christ, and actually enjoy church now.
It's funny, because when they play "meeting" (they still do, because now and then they go with my mother-in-law), they mimic the people in meeting and sing at the top of their lungs with a horrible voice... just like the woman who leads the hymns!
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Post by wingsofaneagle on Aug 14, 2007 17:36:45 GMT -5
That is hilarious!! I remember my older brother and sister playing "meeting" too and she hit him over the head with a frying pan because he was going on too long!!!! Sometimes it would've been nice to do that for real!!!
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Post by elle on Aug 14, 2007 21:57:38 GMT -5
I guess we can't expect much else because of the spirit of exclusivity that is still widely amongst the F&W- if you strongly believe that the F&W are the only group with salvation, you are also going to be pretty upset if your children reject the group, because that means they have rejected salvation.
The part that makes me sad, though, is the conditional love. It doesn't happen in all families and is, of course, not only an issue for the F&W, as parents that are not F&W can also draw back from their children when they make lifestyle choices different form their parents or have different values. Maybe it’s a generational thing too ( or am I just deluding myself that I won’t be like my parents?!).
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Post by freespirit on Aug 14, 2007 22:43:03 GMT -5
That is hilarious!! I remember my older brother and sister playing "meeting" too and she hit him over the head with a frying pan because he was going on too long!!!! Sometimes it would've been nice to do that for real!!! Can they show up at our 1 and 1/2 hour long union Sunday meeting? ;D freespirit
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Post by wingsofaneagle on Aug 15, 2007 13:07:32 GMT -5
Elle you are so right. It IS conditional love! They love you only so long as you are towing the line and looking the part. I lost so many "friends" when i stopped going to meeting! I never said anything against them and never treated them any differently. I have attempted to stay in touch but some don't want to. Why did i have to be treated any differently? When my best friend stopped going to her local church she wasnt treated like she had leprosy! The problem lies in the "us" and "them" that is prevalent within the "meetings". When our kids do something we dont agree with, do we love them any less? Im glad i eventually had the courage to face all the falsehoods in my life! When i think of the all the problems children face as adults when they have parents they can never please. Nothing they do is good enough. They feel loved only by being "good" or by what they accomplish. ANything else is treated with guilt and shame. That is the way i felt while going to meetings. We are never good enough and god is only pleased when we are "doing" and looking the part. Thank GOD i know that my God is not that kind of parent! However I DO love to please him because I KNOW he loves me even when im not!
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Post by _ on Aug 15, 2007 13:43:02 GMT -5
without going into great detail... how was your marriage abusive?
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Post by Cant believe her on Aug 15, 2007 14:02:31 GMT -5
wingsofanangel - Just wish you would use your real picture and not one of something you might want to be!!
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Post by wingsofaneagle on Aug 15, 2007 14:07:55 GMT -5
wingsofanangel - Just wish you would use your real picture and not one of something you might want to be!! HUH? That picture is of me taken with my own webcam. Why do you think its not me and why do you think im a liar? WOW! I was wondering how long it would take on here before i was attacked!!
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Post by Scott Ross on Aug 15, 2007 14:19:47 GMT -5
Hey Wings.... That must be a compliment about your picture. How come no one said that about MY picture HUH? ?..... Something wrong with the way I look or what? Waaaa.... Scott
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Post by Zorro on Aug 15, 2007 15:15:16 GMT -5
I can tell you all that WOAE's pic is certainly of her
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Post by wingsofaneagle on Aug 15, 2007 15:20:31 GMT -5
Thank you Zorro! I figured i'd be attacked on here but never thought it would be for my picture!! ;D Must be the short hair that was the shocker? ROFL
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