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Post by Brad Lewis on Aug 3, 2007 2:36:06 GMT -5
Joh 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. Does anyone disagree with this? If so please a) list the source that you based your decision on b) give your answer. If you don't want to do these things, please start another thread. Thanks, Brad
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Post by sauce on Aug 3, 2007 3:26:28 GMT -5
Does anyone disagree with what?
That this is a quote from the bible, quoted accurately? or That Jesus said this?
or That what Jesus is quoated as saying is right?
You need to be more clear in your question.
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Post by please explain on Aug 3, 2007 12:23:43 GMT -5
Joh 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. Thanks, Brad Brad, I have a question . Who is : the'' Father'' that Jesus is talking about? Was He talking about Himself ? or was He talking about someone else?
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Post by merc on Aug 3, 2007 12:39:14 GMT -5
What is meant by truth? What is meant by life? What language did Jesus speak these words in? Are they accurately translated? Is this a literal translation? Who witnessed him saying this? Was the quote written down at the time or many years later? What is meant by the term 'cometh to the Father'? Who is the Father Jesus is talking about? Is it Jesus' father or the man's own father? Or is it himself? What was the context the statement was spoken in? What was the name of the man Jesus was speaking to? Did the man reply? If so what did he say? Did this conversation definitely take place without any shadow of a doubt? If so who witnessed it?
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Post by Me two too on Aug 3, 2007 12:42:38 GMT -5
What is meant by truth? What is meant by life? What language did Jesus speak these words in? Are they accurately translated? Is this a literal translation? Who witnessed him saying this? Was the quote written down at the time or many years later? What is meant by the term 'cometh to the Father'? Who is the Father Jesus is talking about? Is it Jesus' father or the man's own father? Or is it himself? What was the context the statement was spoken in? What was the name of the man Jesus was speaking to? Did the man reply? If so what did he say? Did this conversation definitely take place without any shadow of a doubt? If so who witnessed it? [ Ya, I would really like to know. Who can show us the way?
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Post by Me one too on Aug 3, 2007 12:50:38 GMT -5
The way to where?
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going somewhere soon
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Post by going somewhere soon on Aug 3, 2007 13:11:37 GMT -5
hmm, well, errerrrerr the way to where I want to go. and that is all I want to know it what is the way to where I want to go.
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Post by where is where on Aug 3, 2007 13:15:48 GMT -5
Depends on where where is, then all roads lead to where .
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Post by Jessi on Aug 3, 2007 21:51:42 GMT -5
He was talking to the Father, a Person of the Godhead, just as he was a Person of the Godhead--who, though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped . . . Philip 2:6
Jesus--in essence--is God. Jn 1:1-4 And the Word was God. The Holy Spirit--in essence--is God. Acts 5:3-4 The Father--in essence--is God.
But the Godhead is Three Seperate Persons in one God, fulfilling different roles in Salvation. Col 1:15, 19-20
In the OT, God said: Is 46:5 To whom will ye liken me, and make me equal, and compare me, that we may be alike? Is 46:9 Remember the former things of old: for I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me,
Heb 1:3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, Col 1:15 He is the image of the invisible God,
Who is a liar?
God? -- He said in the OT that there is none like Him.
Or Jesus? -- . . . who is the EXPRESS image of God.
If one says that Jesus is "exactly like God" but not God, then God is a liar, because He says in no uncertain terms MANY, MANY times in the OT (Is). . . That there is none like Him.
Christ's Forever,
Jessi
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More questions please
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Post by More questions please on Aug 4, 2007 20:34:18 GMT -5
More questions please.
They are great.
If you go to meetings, please ask just as many questions to the workers.
-More questions please
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Post by _ on Aug 4, 2007 20:47:21 GMT -5
. Who is : the'' Father'' that Jesus is talking about? Jesus, as God the Son was talking about God the Father. No Jesus, as God the Son was talking about God the Father. www.carm.org/doctrine/trinity.htm
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Post by Jessi on Aug 4, 2007 21:18:51 GMT -5
. Who is : the'' Father'' that Jesus is talking about? Jesus, as God the Son was talking about God the Father. No Jesus, as God the Son was talking about God the Father. www.carm.org/doctrine/trinity.htmI like the "time" analogy, concerning the Trinity. I had not heard that before. CARM is a very good site. I have listened to to Matthew Slick (and other preachers) on SERMONAUDIO.COM. He was debating an athiest. Pretty interesting stuff. Thanks for the post. Christ's Forever, Jessi
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Post by savedbyblood on Aug 5, 2007 0:59:27 GMT -5
Joh 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. Does anyone disagree with this? If so please a) list the source that you based your decision on b) give your answer. If you don't want to do these things, please start another thread. Thanks, Brad please explain Guest Brad, I have a question .
Who is : the'' Father'' that Jesus is talking about? Was He talking about Himself ? or was He talking about someone else?----------------------------------------------------------------- merc Guest What is meant by truth? What is meant by life? What language did Jesus speak these words in? Are they accurately translated? Is this a literal translation? Who witnessed him saying this? Was the quote written down at the time or many years later? What is meant by the term 'cometh to the Father'? Who is the Father Jesus is talking about? Is it Jesus' father or the man's own father? Or is it himself? What was the context the statement was spoken in? What was the name of the man Jesus was speaking to? Did the man reply? If so what did he say? Did this conversation definitely take place without any shadow of a doubt? If so who witnessed it?------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Me two too Guest What is meant by truth? What is meant by life? What language did Jesus speak these words in? Are they accurately translated? Is this a literal translation? Who witnessed him saying this? Was the quote written down at the time or many years later? What is meant by the term 'cometh to the Father'? Who is the Father Jesus is talking about? Is it Jesus' father or the man's own father? Or is it himself? What was the context the statement was spoken in? What was the name of the man Jesus was speaking to? Did the man reply? If so what did he say? Did this conversation definitely take place without any shadow of a doubt? If so who witnessed it?Ya, I would really like to know. Who can show us the way?------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Me one too Guest
The way to where?----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Brad's quote is from the Bible and if you had looked up the text and read it in it's context you would have been able to discern the message. Or are you just Brad Bashers? Brad is trying to push home the point of the workers teaching that we must come unto God through Jesus through THEM. This is not taught in the Bible! Brad, I quite agree with your statement.I intend to post a new question soon and truly wish for profound, revealing, honest, personal experiences. Sometimes this place seems lacking in this. Sort of like one of those "meet & greet" teen sites I guess. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ JOHN 14: 1 - 12 1: Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me. 2: In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. 3: And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also. 4: And whither I go ye know, and the way ye know. 5: Thomas saith unto him, Lord, we know not whither thou goest; and how can we know the way? 6: Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. 7: If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him. 8: Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us. 9: Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father? 10: Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works. 11: Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake. 12: Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.
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Post by Confess on Aug 5, 2007 21:38:01 GMT -5
You must go to Nat,Bert,Get or Wannabe to get saved on here. They know the way. They have all the answers. Nobody else knows anything. No one else knows the bible. Only they do. They are the TMB workers.. All hail the TMB workers All hail the TMB workers.
Is it not so cute to see the Oh how nice git from wannabe and how how nice nat fro wannabe and oh yes thank you so much. Yes so much dribble they are tripping over themselves. Don't you see they are all self promoting. This is the COLLECTIVE at work. They are BORGS. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
The Borg are a race of "subhanced" humanoids native to the Island of Ireland. Originally completely organic, their evolutionary path led them to create a highly effective hive social structure that achieves a blind control consciousness through Mindless implants.
A Borg has mind-blanking implants designed for being part of the collective. The assimilated BORG drone (Friends) have only to listen to the murmur of mindless 2x2 collective that transmits into his/her mind precisely nothing. Thus the drone never needing to decide anything independently never worries about what course of action to take. They just follow blind and mindlessly. The result is an outward (ONLY) appearance of harmony and complete cooperation among the BORGS at the price of surrendering individual thought.
Yet such a life of blindness has prompted Borgs separated from the Collective to lose themselves in reality. Being in complete fear of seeing the Real TRUTH, Many Borgs run back to the Collective again and return to the hive to be lead by the evil overworking BORGS. To break away from the Collective, drones that have separated must find the real TRUTH and be deprogrammed of the MIND-LESS IMPLANTS. It is said that Jesus the Christ is the WAY of deprogramming.
Specialists from the Free Kingdom of the SAVED who work in this area have made available books, tapes and websites to help the lost Drones learn the REAL TRUTH. At the same time the Collective has sent their Mindless Blind murmurers to fight the REAL TRUTH. They stroke themselves believing they are right because they are blind mindless drones of the collective. They can be very dangerious in their attacks of mindless false hoods.
On the local level powerful shun and fail transmitters within the Borg Sunday cubes are responsible for sending out signals in subchatter gossip space that activate the homing signal within Borg mindless implants which forces lost drones to return to a local Borg cube in the event of separation with the Collective, or else be shot with rays of mind lossing out power.
Assimilation: IS Not a pretty sight Assimilation: Is the Borg's means of adding or replacing drones, as well as their sole purpose of existence.
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Post by The Hive on Aug 5, 2007 21:50:38 GMT -5
You must go to Nat,Bert,Get or Wannabe to get saved on here. They know the way. They have all the answers. Nobody else knows anything. No one else knows the bible. Only they do. They are the TMB workers.. All hail the TMB workers All hail the TMB workers. Is it not so cute to see the Oh how nice git from wannabe and how how nice nat fro wannabe and oh yes thank you so much. Yes so much dribble they are tripping over themselves. Don't you see they are all self promoting. This is the COLLECTIVE at work. They are BORGS. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx The Borg are a race of "subhanced" humanoids native to the Island of Ireland. Originally completely organic, their evolutionary path led them to create a highly effective hive social structure that achieves a blind control consciousness through Mindless implants.
A Borg has mind-blanking implants designed for being part of the collective. The assimilated BORG drone (Friends) have only to listen to the murmur of mindless 2x2 collective that transmits into his/her mind precisely nothing. Thus the drone never needing to decide anything independently never worries about what course of action to take. They just follow blind and mindlessly. The result is an outward (ONLY) appearance of harmony and complete cooperation among the BORGS at the price of surrendering individual thought.
Yet such a life of blindness has prompted Borgs separated from the Collective to lose themselves in reality. Being in complete fear of seeing the Real TRUTH, Many Borgs run back to the Collective again and return to the hive to be lead by the evil overworking BORGS. To break away from the Collective, drones that have separated must find the real TRUTH and be deprogrammed of the MIND-LESS IMPLANTS. It is said that Jesus the Christ is the WAY of deprogramming.
Specialists from the Free Kingdom of the SAVED who work in this area have made available books, tapes and websites to help the lost Drones learn the REAL TRUTH. At the same time the Collective has sent their Mindless Blind murmurers to fight the REAL TRUTH. They stroke themselves believing they are right because they are blind mindless drones of the collective. They can be very dangerious in their attacks of mindless false hoods.
On the local level powerful shun and fail transmitters within the Borg Sunday cubes are responsible for sending out signals in subchatter gossip space that activate the homing signal within Borg mindless implants which forces lost drones to return to a local Borg cube in the event of separation with the Collective, or else be shot with rays of mind lossing out power.
Assimilation: IS Not a pretty sight Assimilation: Is the Borg's means of adding or replacing drones, as well as their sole purpose of existence.The hive keeps a low profile.
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