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Post by Why on Aug 2, 2007 11:10:41 GMT -5
You don't HAVE to allow someone else to control your life! Some of you guys even go to them with questions seeking advice on some issue. GET TO KNOW THY GOD!
Workers are men. Some good and some not so good. They are human and prone to give bad advice. They don't understand family life. They don't understand public jobs. So why RUN TO THEM with your problems. USe them to better your life if you can. But don't allow them to control every aspect of your life. Who you marry, your choice of friends, your choice of entertainment, you appearance etc. is YOUR BUSINESS. We can't blame them if we allow them (or our sweet professing relatives) to keep us in bondage. BREAK FREE!!
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Post by deeper than this on Aug 2, 2007 11:25:42 GMT -5
You don't HAVE to allow someone else to control your life! Some of you guys even go to them with questions seeking advice on some issue. GET TO KNOW THY GOD! Workers are men. Some good and some not so good. They are human and prone to give bad advice. They don't understand family life. They don't understand public jobs. So why RUN TO THEM with your problems. USe them to better your life if you can. But don't allow them to control every aspect of your life. Who you marry, your choice of friends, your choice of entertainment, you appearance etc. is YOUR BUSINESS. We can't blame them if we allow them (or our sweet professing relatives) to keep us in bondage. BREAK FREE!! I think most people know to not take problems to the workers that have to do with things that the workers have no expertise in (marriage would be one example). The folks who take ALL of their problems to the workers are the same ones who cannot run their own lives in any aspect. I believe the most recent word to describe them is co-dependent. They need more help than a single motivational post on the TMB can provide.
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Post by ANDREW M on Aug 2, 2007 11:56:10 GMT -5
The problem is that when there is no stated doctrine, the Workers become substituted for that doctrine. They fill a vacuum.
Doctrine is there to guide and direct people along an acceptable pathway. Where there is no such stated doctrine, many people feel compelled to go to, or rely on what the Workers say to follow or stay on the accepted path.
In other words, if it's acceptable to the Workers, it must be okay. If it's not acceptable to the Workers, then it is "out."
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Post by Brick on Aug 2, 2007 12:09:44 GMT -5
Wow. What a profound concept! Does that mean that I can buy the brand of toilette paper that I want, rather than what they recommended?
I'm FREE! FREE AT LAST!
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Post by ANDREW M on Aug 2, 2007 12:24:48 GMT -5
Well Brick, they say "the Truth is stranger than fiction," don't they ?
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Post by Scott Ross on Aug 2, 2007 12:37:31 GMT -5
Brick- Wow. What a profound concept! Does that mean that I can buy the brand of toilette paper that I want, rather than what they recommended?
I'm FREE! FREE AT LAST! If you're smart, you will purchase SCOTT toilette paper. I can guarantee that namet will gather up every little bit of poop that it possibly can. It's been doing that for me my whole life. (Luckily I've been able to flush most of it away....) Scott
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Post by deeper than this on Aug 2, 2007 12:41:08 GMT -5
The problem is that when there is no stated doctrine, the Workers become substituted for that doctrine. They fill a vacuum. Doctrine is there to guide and direct people along an acceptable pathway. Where there is no such stated doctrine, many people feel compelled to go to, or rely on what the Workers say to follow or stay on the accepted path. In other words, if it's acceptable to the Workers, it must be okay. If it's not acceptable to the Workers, then it is "out." Oh come on. A lack of stated doctrine is a problem, but let's not blame it for people being unable to run their own lives. Anyone with any common sense (in any religion) should be able to discern between what is related to the Church and what isn't. Didn't Jesus say something once along the lines of "give to Caeser what it his etc. etc. etc.?" I think that had to do with taxes or something, but the point is that we have to be run our own natural lives by ourselves.
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Post by Brick on Aug 2, 2007 13:05:07 GMT -5
If you're smart, you will purchase SCOTT toilette paper. I can guarantee that namet will gather up every little bit of poop that it possibly can. NO WAY, Scott! It's Charmin for me from here on out. No one is gonna tell me what to wipe my tuckus with. I'm my own man from here to eternity! Or to infinity--and beyond!
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Post by janet on Aug 2, 2007 13:13:03 GMT -5
Wow. What a profound concept! Does that mean that I can buy the brand of toilette paper that I want, rather than what they recommended? I'm FREE! FREE AT LAST! Absolutely not Brick. You must always buy TP that is compatible with the Convention Dumper. You have no choice in the matter. ;D
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Post by Brick on Aug 2, 2007 13:17:32 GMT -5
Control freaks! You are all control freaks. Now I'm caught in a conflict. Do I please Scott by using Scott or janet by using Gayette's or just listen to my bum (what a novel concept) and go with Charmin?
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Post by janet on Aug 2, 2007 13:28:10 GMT -5
Control freaks! You are all control freaks. Now I'm caught in a conflict. Do I please Scott by using Scott or janet by using Gayette's or just listen to my bum (what a novel concept) and go with Charmin? LSHMBH ;D ;D To early for this. Must take Cafe break. bye bye for now
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Post by no name on Aug 2, 2007 13:35:09 GMT -5
Control freaks! You are all control freaks. Now I'm caught in a conflict. Do I please Scott by using Scott or janet by using Gayette's or just listen to my bum (what a novel concept) and go with Charmin? I say go with your septic system first and foremost. Charmin has been known to be hard on septic tanks. Now, if you don't mind the possibility of your septic system going bad due to your toilet paper brand, then by all means go with Charmin. If you'd rather not face that potential messy problem, then go with a sandpaper-feel product like Scott. ;D Just my $0.02.
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Post by _ on Aug 2, 2007 13:42:46 GMT -5
You don't HAVE to allow someone else to control your life! Some of you guys even go to them with questions seeking advice on some issue. GET TO KNOW THY GOD! Workers are men. Some good and some not so good. They are human and prone to give bad advice. They don't understand family life. They don't understand public jobs. So why RUN TO THEM with your problems. USe them to better your life if you can. But don't allow them to control every aspect of your life. Who you marry, your choice of friends, your choice of entertainment, you appearance etc. is YOUR BUSINESS. We can't blame them if we allow them (or our sweet professing relatives) to keep us in bondage. BREAK FREE!! I don't know any of the friends in our area that are being controlled by the workers...
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Post by Scott Ross on Aug 2, 2007 14:11:03 GMT -5
Hey Brick,
My wife got tired of hearing what my bum said, it wasn't too Charmin according to her, (and when I 'squeezed' it, it only made a slightly higher but also distinctly strange noise-Which I thought WAS rather charmin) So.... ol' sandpaper Scotty is what I ended up with. Sigh....
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Post by 3 on Aug 2, 2007 15:13:20 GMT -5
fmrof2x2
Please clarify:
do you mean you don't personally know any of the friends in your area who appear to be controlled by workers OR
you don't know of any friends in your area who are contolled by workers.
being as you are no longer a 2x2, how would you know? (no disrespect intended)
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Post by selah on Aug 2, 2007 16:29:07 GMT -5
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Post by ANDREW M on Aug 2, 2007 16:32:34 GMT -5
To "deeper than this." My guess is that you were not raised in this way, or that you were from one of the more looked up to families in the way.
For many, what Workers said or believed (even in non-scriptural matters) was/is Gospel. It results from a climate of indoctrination. Efeectively it is a form of doctrine for many families.
In any group there is an underlying desire amongst the membership to be accepted by the rest. In the F&W's way this results in following the workers' example in thought and in deed. Perhaps this is true in other forms of religion, but it is certainly true in this one. The trouble is, many don't realise they have bought into this doctrine.
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Post by Official on Aug 2, 2007 16:37:04 GMT -5
It's official.
Every topic under the sun has been discussed here now.
Who would have thought toilet paper would be the last hold-out?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2007 17:37:14 GMT -5
quote - "The problem is that when there is no stated doctrine, Two ways of looking at this: either the bible failed to deliver a "stated doctrine" or the bible, in its entirety, is a "stated doctrine."
quote - the Workers become substituted for that doctrine. Strange statement; no concrete example - they have to obey the Doctrine like anyone else. I have never asked a Worker to solve any issue of mine. Until I got on this board I wasn't aware of the extent to which people would involve Workers in non-Worker issues. That's not their job, really.
quote - They fill a vacuum. Another strange statement. Was it Paul who said he had the "care of all the church" and in another place he warned people against identifying with their own preachers rather than Christ. So these things can happen but its nothing to do with doctrine if they do.
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Post by Peacemaker on Aug 2, 2007 17:43:56 GMT -5
It's official. Every topic under the sun has been discussed here now. Who would have thought toilet paper would be the last hold-out? Oh, I don't know, probably a good topic for all those who suffer with haemorroids, often referred to as piles.
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Post by _ on Aug 2, 2007 18:14:32 GMT -5
fmrof2x2 Please clarify: do you mean you don't personally know any of the friends in your area who appear to be controlled by workers OR you don't know of any friends in your area who are contolled by workers. being as you are no longer a 2x2, how would you know? (no disrespect intended) Let me be clear.. I know of no friend, no matter the area, that is controlled by the workers. Do you?
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Post by Yes I DO on Aug 2, 2007 18:23:47 GMT -5
fmrof2x2 Please clarify: do you mean you don't personally know any of the friends in your area who appear to be controlled by workers OR you don't know of any friends in your area who are contolled by workers. being as you are no longer a 2x2, how would you know? (no disrespect intended) Let me be clear.. I know of no friend, no matter the area, that is controlled by the workers. Do you? I know many vulnerable people have gone to the workers for guidance and got brainwashed and lied to and manipulated and duped, and, and, and flushed down the 2x2 septic system never to be seen again.
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Post by Get out of your septic on Aug 2, 2007 18:26:57 GMT -5
Sounds like you live in the septic yourself - don't blame the workers for putting you there
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Post by _ on Aug 2, 2007 18:35:31 GMT -5
I believe it would be important to define what control and controlling means...
I do not believe being lied to means you're controlled....
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Post by Controlled on Aug 2, 2007 18:45:00 GMT -5
if you are told to hand over your money live as want and still be saved to support an expensive church building believe the world and God are friends that the bible has changed and so on so on then you are being lied to... and in a sense you are being controlled
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Post by wanttobewithGod on Aug 2, 2007 19:05:57 GMT -5
I, like many women I know, personally love Soft & Gentle.... M.
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Post by Why on Aug 2, 2007 19:10:43 GMT -5
is it so important for some of you to defend the lies and abuse others have received in this group? You haven't seen it - well - big deal - maybe in your own little bubble all is fine. Good for you; be happy/grateful you haven't been at the receiving end of the evil that does spew forth and back-stabbling lies.
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Post by right on Aug 2, 2007 19:11:14 GMT -5
Sounds like you live in the septic yourself - don't blame the workers for putting you there Right. Don't blame the workers for lying to you.
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