magpies39plus
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WHY? Does quoting relevant scripture send the 2x2;s into sometimes a nasty response??
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Post by magpies39plus on Jul 31, 2022 1:12:50 GMT -5
I said to Mum when I was about 12,it was after a Country funeral. "Wow,so many knew the Lord's Prayer,that was good wasn't it". I copped an ear bashing for a few minutes which included"We are warned against vain repetition". In my 35 years in the 2x2's never once did I hear the Lord's prayer spoken of as a subject of teaching or sermon,think about it??
Andrea Bocelli the Lord's Prayer - Youtube, (No I am not a Morman but a Christian,I hear the words,then the voice and then the sound)
The Lord's Prayer Meaning (Explained verse by verse). .
There is others teaching the contents too.
Andrea Bocelli and Katherine McPhee - The Prayer-(todays popular video).
It is such a so involving study,one scripture and subject that must be foremost in our minds
May this Prayer again be as uplifting to you as it is to so many others in the Body of Christ.... Magpie
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Post by passingby on Feb 26, 2023 16:47:29 GMT -5
I said to Mum when I was about 12,it was after a Country funeral. "Wow,so many knew the Lord's Prayer,that was good wasn't it". I copped an ear bashing for a few minutes which included"We are warned against vain repetition". In my 35 years in the 2x2's never once did I hear the Lord's prayer spoken of as a subject of teaching or sermon,think about it?? Andrea Bocelli the Lord's Prayer - Youtube, (No I am not a Morman but a Christian,I hear the words,then the voice and then the sound) The Lord's Prayer Meaning (Explained verse by verse). . There is others teaching the contents too. Andrea Bocelli and Katherine McPhee - The Prayer-(todays popular video). It is such a so involving study,one scripture and subject that must be foremost in our minds May this Prayer again be as uplifting to you as it is to so many others in the Body of Christ.... Magpie Reply, I'd say your mother was right about vain repetition... Your suggestions about studying it beyond repeating it, makes sense, I enjoyed looking it up again. Thanks for bringing it up, as it happens, on this Sunday The 1st 5 lines I think are what every Christian seeks for in their spirit and by extension, their actions. The next line "Give us this day our daily bread...", could mean a lot of things, I suppose most likely spiritual bread. Like we used to hear sometimes at conventions - new bread by an old recipe. But it could also mean natural food too, like Jesus saying not to worry so much about it, as he even feeds the animals. But then again as some workers found out, HE isn't very reliable on that point even if you pray for it. "Forgive us our debts as we forgive our debtors" That makes sense to me. I think that was the message John the Baptist preached too. No Savior on the cross needed. The part about "And do not lead us into temptation" has never made sense to me. Why would God purposely lead you into temptation? Is that prayer saying you should regularly, and often, ask God not to do that to you - lest he might do it?? That's not the God I'd hope for? But then again seeing what He let Satan do to Job (very intentionally btw), to prove a bet, makes one think twice. So it seems you better watch out, If you think CSA is bad, look what could happen to you, not to mention your wife and your kids!!? Oh well, perhaps CSA is something like God allowing these things to happen, so you can eventually be delivered from it and in the end be rewarded with twice as much of everything you lost. In that light, I guess it makes sense that Job, in the midst of the trials fell on his face and worshipped God about it all. Perhaps it would be helpful to encourage and buck up CSA victims to look at their trials along those lines? The only quibble I have with the last line is that for Christians it should read OURS is the kingdom, power and glory forever. Amen Oh, one last thing... something I remember from gospel mtgs, - if you'd like to see our Lord's prayer, for himself and us, read John 17. That's probably a better one to study in depth.
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Post by Roselyn T on Mar 12, 2023 20:13:12 GMT -5
I said to Mum when I was about 12,it was after a Country funeral. "Wow,so many knew the Lord's Prayer,that was good wasn't it". I copped an ear bashing for a few minutes which included"We are warned against vain repetition". In my 35 years in the 2x2's never once did I hear the Lord's prayer spoken of as a subject of teaching or sermon,think about it?? Andrea Bocelli the Lord's Prayer - Youtube, (No I am not a Morman but a Christian,I hear the words,then the voice and then the sound) The Lord's Prayer Meaning (Explained verse by verse). . There is others teaching the contents too. Andrea Bocelli and Katherine McPhee - The Prayer-(todays popular video). It is such a so involving study,one scripture and subject that must be foremost in our minds May this Prayer again be as uplifting to you as it is to so many others in the Body of Christ.... Magpie Reply, I'd say your mother was right about vain repetition... Your suggestions about studying it beyond repeating it, makes sense, I enjoyed looking it up again. Thanks for bringing it up, as it happens, on this Sunday The 1st 5 lines I think are what every Christian seeks for in their spirit and by extension, their actions. The next line "Give us this day our daily bread...", could mean a lot of things, I suppose most likely spiritual bread. Like we used to hear sometimes at conventions - new bread by an old recipe. But it could also mean natural food too, like Jesus saying not to worry so much about it, as he even feeds the animals. But then again as some workers found out, HE isn't very reliable on that point even if you pray for it. "Forgive us our debts as we forgive our debtors" That makes sense to me. I think that was the message John the Baptist preached too. No Savior on the cross needed. The part about "And do not lead us into temptation" has never made sense to me. Why would God purposely lead you into temptation? Is that prayer saying you should regularly, and often, ask God not to do that to you - lest he might do it?? That's not the God I'd hope for? But then again seeing what He let Satan do to Job (very intentionally btw), to prove a bet, makes one think twice. So it seems you better watch out, If you think CSA is bad, look what could happen to you, not to mention your wife and your kids!!? Oh well, perhaps CSA is something like God allowing these things to happen, so you can eventually be delivered from it and in the end be rewarded with twice as much of everything you lost. In that light, I guess it makes sense that Job, in the midst of the trials fell on his face and worshipped God about it all. Perhaps it would be helpful to encourage and buck up CSA victims to look at their trials along those lines? The only quibble I have with the last line is that for Christians it should read OURS is the kingdom, power and glory forever. Amen Oh, one last thing... something I remember from gospel mtgs, - if you'd like to see our Lord's prayer, for himself and us, read John 17. That's probably a better one to study in depth. passingby are you a victim of CSA ?
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Post by verna on Mar 12, 2023 20:27:38 GMT -5
Reply, I'd say your mother was right about vain repetition... Your suggestions about studying it beyond repeating it, makes sense, I enjoyed looking it up again. Thanks for bringing it up, as it happens, on this Sunday The 1st 5 lines I think are what every Christian seeks for in their spirit and by extension, their actions. The next line "Give us this day our daily bread...", could mean a lot of things, I suppose most likely spiritual bread. Like we used to hear sometimes at conventions - new bread by an old recipe. But it could also mean natural food too, like Jesus saying not to worry so much about it, as he even feeds the animals. But then again as some workers found out, HE isn't very reliable on that point even if you pray for it. "Forgive us our debts as we forgive our debtors" That makes sense to me. I think that was the message John the Baptist preached too. No Savior on the cross needed. The part about "And do not lead us into temptation" has never made sense to me. Why would God purposely lead you into temptation? Is that prayer saying you should regularly, and often, ask God not to do that to you - lest he might do it?? That's not the God I'd hope for? But then again seeing what He let Satan do to Job (very intentionally btw), to prove a bet, makes one think twice. So it seems you better watch out, If you think CSA is bad, look what could happen to you, not to mention your wife and your kids!!? Oh well, perhaps CSA is something like God allowing these things to happen, so you can eventually be delivered from it and in the end be rewarded with twice as much of everything you lost. In that light, I guess it makes sense that Job, in the midst of the trials fell on his face and worshipped God about it all. Perhaps it would be helpful to encourage and buck up CSA victims to look at their trials along those lines? The only quibble I have with the last line is that for Christians it should read OURS is the kingdom, power and glory forever. Amen Oh, one last thing... something I remember from gospel mtgs, - if you'd like to see our Lord's prayer, for himself and us, read John 17. That's probably a better one to study in depth. passingby are you a victim of CSA ? It’s messed up Roselyn - the gymnastics required and executed to make sense of these things.
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Post by Roselyn T on Mar 12, 2023 23:40:33 GMT -5
It’s messed up Roselyn - the gymnastics required and executed to make sense of these things. It sure is verna !
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Post by passingby on Oct 27, 2023 13:56:41 GMT -5
Reply, I'd say your mother was right about vain repetition... Your suggestions about studying it beyond repeating it, makes sense, I enjoyed looking it up again. Thanks for bringing it up, as it happens, on this Sunday The 1st 5 lines I think are what every Christian seeks for in their spirit and by extension, their actions. The next line "Give us this day our daily bread...", could mean a lot of things, I suppose most likely spiritual bread. Like we used to hear sometimes at conventions - new bread by an old recipe. But it could also mean natural food too, like Jesus saying not to worry so much about it, as he even feeds the animals. But then again as some workers found out, HE isn't very reliable on that point even if you pray for it. "Forgive us our debts as we forgive our debtors" That makes sense to me. I think that was the message John the Baptist preached too. No Savior on the cross needed. The part about "And do not lead us into temptation" has never made sense to me. Why would God purposely lead you into temptation? Is that prayer saying you should regularly, and often, ask God not to do that to you - lest he might do it?? That's not the God I'd hope for? But then again seeing what He let Satan do to Job (very intentionally btw), to prove a bet, makes one think twice. So it seems you better watch out, If you think CSA is bad, look what could happen to you, not to mention your wife and your kids!!? Oh well, perhaps CSA is something like God allowing these things to happen, so you can eventually be delivered from it and in the end be rewarded with twice as much of everything you lost. In that light, I guess it makes sense that Job, in the midst of the trials fell on his face and worshipped God about it all. Perhaps it would be helpful to encourage and buck up CSA victims to look at their trials along those lines? The only quibble I have with the last line is that for Christians it should read OURS is the kingdom, power and glory forever. Amen Oh, one last thing... something I remember from gospel mtgs, - if you'd like to see our Lord's prayer, for himself and us, read John 17. That's probably a better one to study in depth. passingby are you a victim of CSA ? Hi Roselyn, I presume you object to my line "Perhaps.... encourage and buck up CSA victims...." ?? Well, you may not of caught my cynical tone on that line of worthless advice. What does surprise me though is how the Christians here are totally silent and gone regarding CSA and the healing power of God, or the promises of a happy eternity forever compared to the vanishingly small, even if miserables, time on earth. I guess because their promises have as much to do with reality as the fairy tale told in the book of Job.
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