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Post by Obvious on Aug 1, 2007 2:08:17 GMT -5
Nathan said: "Only in eternity will find out which group has the approval of God." Wrong - it won't be a "group" that is right with God - it's an individual person collectively from all areas, walks of life. A personal relationship with Jesus Christ. It has NOTHING to do with the group. We will be on our own answering to God for our words and the way we lived our lives. There will be NO worker there to be sure you get into heaven! Wake up people, the workers have NO say even though in their egotistical minds they think they do. So, Nathan thinks it's a mystery who is going to heaven. Obviously Nathan never "got" the gospel. Obvious
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Post by wanttobewithGod on Aug 1, 2007 4:05:48 GMT -5
I agree with Nathan in that we won't find out if we are saved or not on this EARTH. I disagree with which 'group' will be saved. It will be, in my opinion, *definitely* on a person by p erson basis depending on each one's heart and relationship with God. Not ANY group. M.
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Post by Cant you read on Aug 1, 2007 5:58:14 GMT -5
Shame on God for losing his church and finding it again through WI. Can't imagine Don't you read how many times God lost His church in the bible? How many times did God destroy His own people because they were lost to Him?
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Post by wondering on Aug 1, 2007 6:01:46 GMT -5
Shame on God for losing his church and finding it again through WI. Can't imagine Don't you read how many times God lost His church in the bible? How many times did God destroy His own people because they were lost to Him? Are you a Pruebertian (or Pruebertite) or are you just mocking?
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Post by Wrong way on Aug 1, 2007 6:51:27 GMT -5
All this time I have been following the wrong way. Oh me oh my.
No we have it straight from the horses mouth. The right way is the faith mission and the Waldensian
NOT THE 2x2 fellowship...
They are just a schism group that split from the right way about a 100 years ago because the wanted to follow there own way and have there own rules...
Well I best be getting a hold of those faith mission people or Waldensian church... wouldn't want to be found in the wrong GROUP after all when we have to stand before god...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2007 9:42:47 GMT -5
Nathan, it doesn't matter what strange pagan rituals the Pope believes; it doesn't matter what strange Halloween costumes the Pope wears - his is the True Church because he has the documents showing a direct link to the Apostles. And whether that link was a good link, or bad link, is irrelevant. And how many people other Popes killed for gathering in homes is not the issue either - the Pope is God's last word on earth.
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Post by Workers on Aug 1, 2007 9:51:19 GMT -5
It doesn't matter what strange ritual the Workers believe, it doesn't matter what strange home meetings the Workers believe in, it doesn't matter what strange convention the Workers promote, it doesn't matter what strange 2x2 itinerate ministry the Workers promote. It's all irrelevant. The Workers have God's last word on earth.
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all this and a bag of chips
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Post by all this and a bag of chips on Aug 1, 2007 11:40:37 GMT -5
blah blah blah
and the workers STILL do not endorse nathan's website no matter what he says.
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Post by the waldos on Aug 1, 2007 15:33:37 GMT -5
Interesting idea Nathan, that you approve of the FM workers as part of the apostolic succession that you promote. One difficult aspect of that is the fact that our workers rejected those workers as false shortly after 1900, no later than 1907. If we came from a false ministry, how can we be the true ministry? Or, if they were the true ministry in the 1890's, what made them false? Or, perhaps they are still the true ministry and ours is false? Or, they are the true ministry and so are we, even though we consider them false today? The fact remains that evidence shows that WI rejected the FM. It can't surely qualify for being part of the apostolic chain for this reason alone. I suppose one theory could be that the FM was right when Irvine started with them, but went wrong after that and he became the new righteous 2x2 ministry. Lots of rationalization to be done there to support your theory! Where did I approve Faith Mission? I wrote they (FM) existed before William Irvine. William Irvine, John Long and some of the 2x2 workers were a Faith Mission preachers! I believe they LOST their faith in the Faith Mission group... and depart according to the Faith Mission workers list.
I know from reading historical documents facts! the chain of Vaudois and many of their brothers sisters apostolic 2x2s Itinerant existed for 1800 yrs "BEFORE" John Govan founded his Faith Mission group in 1886 or 88, and William Irivine, John Long, and the 2x2s workers began theirs in 1897. Many groups/churches existed before the Faith Mission and others. The Catholic church is one, but what significance is that? The workers no more endorse the Vaudois than they do the Catholic church. Is is only you who carry on about them. The Vauldos started hundreds of years after the New Testement, find something that goes back to Jesus, not something that started 100s of year after.
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Post by a worker on Aug 1, 2007 15:41:05 GMT -5
Margaret Isbister went into the work in 1875. That predates WmI There is probably no Margaret Isbiter but you made it up to stir. If there was, she was likely a Faith Mission worker, not a worker of the 2x2 group because no workers existed iin the 2x2 group prior to Willam Irvine who broke away from the Faith Mission to start his own church which is the group that calls itself the truth today.
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