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Post by Dan on Jun 5, 2022 22:58:56 GMT -5
Every day, more than 110 Americans are killed with guns and more than 200 are shot and wounded. The effects of gun violence in America extend far beyond these casualties—gun violence shapes the lives of millions of Americans who witness it, know someone who was shot, or live in fear of the next shooting. And Wally reckons that people in countries with strict Gun Laws are the victims. This old man shakes his head in disbelief. Perhaps I am becoming old and senile.
Most shootings occur in our larger cities where Liberals have defunded the police, removed bail requirements, and prevented the police from stopping & searching people in area's where gun violence is rampant. This emboldens criminals when there's no repercussions for breaking the law. A kid can walk down any street on Chicago's south side with a visible pistol in his belt unimpeded. Mayor Lightfoot has prohibited the police from chasing criminals.
The minimum age to own a firearm in the U.S. is 18, the same as Australia. The difference is that your more careful with requirements, regulations, and enforcement. We simply need to sort out the crazies and stop blaming the guns.
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Post by BobWilliston on Jun 5, 2022 23:19:54 GMT -5
Every day, more than 110 Americans are killed with guns and more than 200 are shot and wounded. The effects of gun violence in America extend far beyond these casualties—gun violence shapes the lives of millions of Americans who witness it, know someone who was shot, or live in fear of the next shooting. And Wally reckons that people in countries with strict Gun Laws are the victims. This old man shakes his head in disbelief. Perhaps I am becoming old and senile. Most shootings occur in our larger cities where Liberals have defunded the police, removed bail requirements, and prevented the police from stopping & searching people in area's where gun violence is rampant. This emboldens criminals when there's no repercussions for breaking the law. A kid can walk down any street on Chicago's south side with a visible pistol in his belt unimpeded. Mayor Lightfoot has prohibited the police from chasing criminals. The minimum age to own a firearm in the U.S. is 18, the same as Australia. The difference is that your more careful with requirements, regulations, and enforcement. We simply need to sort out the crazies and stop blaming the guns.
You could save the guns a lot of public embarrassment if you'd lop off several thousand index fingers.
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Post by G'day on Jun 6, 2022 0:02:07 GMT -5
Excuses Excuses by Gareth Owen
Late again Blenkinsopp? What’s the excuse this time? Not my fault sir. Who’s fault is it then? Grandma’s sir. Grandma’s? What did she do? She died sir. Died? She’s seriously dead alright sir. That makes four grandmothers this term Blenkinsopp And all on PE days. I know. It’s very upsetting sir. How many grandmothers have you got Blenkinsopp? Grandmothers sir? None sir. You said you had four. All dead sir. And what about yesterday Blenkinsopp? What about yesterday sir? You were absent yesterday. That was the dentist sir. The dentist died? No sir. My teeth sir. You missed the maths test Blenkinsopp! I’d been looking forward to it sir. Right, line up for PE. Can’t sir. No such word as “can’t” Blenkinsopp No kit sir. Where is it? Home sir. What’s it doing at home? Not ironed sir. Couldn’t you iron it? Can’t sir. Why not? Bad hand sir. Who usually does it? Grandma sir. Why couldn’t she do it? Dead sir.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2022 6:09:42 GMT -5
Wally, I don't mind you thinking I'm stupid, but don't talk to me like I'm stupid. Same goes for you Redback.... Nice try at a do as I say not as I do remark btw....
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Post by intelchips on Jun 6, 2022 8:26:50 GMT -5
Wally, I don't mind you thinking I'm stupid, but don't talk to me like I'm stupid. Same goes for you Redback.... Nice try at a do as I say not as I do remark btw....
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Post by G'day on Jun 9, 2022 19:37:17 GMT -5
The needless murders continue every day. Will those dumb Republicans ever get the message. Even that poor little girl that saw her classmates shot, could not get through to them. We know it is a tragic situation that can be changed with some common sense thinking, tempered with empathy and compassion.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2022 21:41:59 GMT -5
The needless murders continue every day. Will those dumb Republicans ever get the message. Even that poor little girl that saw her classmates shot, could not get through to them. We know it is a tragic situation that can be changed with some common sense thinking, tempered with empathy and compassion. Save it Redback, A lot of Americans won't buy what you are selling. Luckily some states have or have already become 2nd amendment sanctuary states despite what congress does...
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Post by G'day on Jun 9, 2022 23:31:30 GMT -5
It is so unfortunate for America that the Republicans are not driven by the higher principle or a sense of humanitarianism, but rather use cold, hard numbers and the idea of maintaining or getting power.
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Post by G'day on Jun 10, 2022 2:41:23 GMT -5
264 mass shootings in America in 160 days this year. Not really something to be proud of. Sad thing is it could change if the powers that be were a lot more humanitarian.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2022 8:34:57 GMT -5
264 mass shootings in America in 160 days this year. Not really something to be proud of. Sad thing is it could change if the powers that be were a lot more humanitarian. You should do better research...Atheistic humanism will never be the answer Redback...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2022 8:39:15 GMT -5
It is so unfortunate for America that the Republicans are not driven by the higher principle or a sense of humanitarianism, but rather use cold, hard numbers and the idea of maintaining or getting power. You are not making any sense. Atheistic Humanism is a dead end...
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Post by G'day on Jun 10, 2022 17:01:46 GMT -5
"Being a humanitarian means helping people who are suffering and saving lives any time any place in the world. And so humanitarian work requires being responsible, conscious of the circumstances of other people's lives, and helping them on the basis of need, without discrimination."
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Post by G'day on Jun 10, 2022 17:22:35 GMT -5
How do you become a humanitarian? 1. In order to be a capable humanitarian, you need to demonstrate tolerance, cultural understanding and altruism. Approach humanitarian work with a mindset of giving, helping, and hope to improve the world around you. 2. Don't focus on what you can gain from your effort, focus on what your community can gain.
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Post by Grant on Jun 10, 2022 17:31:04 GMT -5
"Being a humanitarian means helping people who are suffering and saving lives any time any place in the world. And so humanitarian work requires being responsible, conscious of the circumstances of other people's lives, and helping them on the basis of need, without discrimination." Christian organizations carry out a lot of humanitarian work around the world.
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Post by G'day on Jun 10, 2022 18:05:09 GMT -5
Exactly right Enuf. Main stream Churches encourage their congregation to be humanitarian. The way it should be, value other lives, the same way as you value your own.
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Post by BobWilliston on Jun 10, 2022 22:05:43 GMT -5
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Post by muse2 on Jun 12, 2022 20:08:21 GMT -5
Getting back to the Two Creation Stories. This is a subject that I started delving into when I was about 12 years old. My dad asked me this question: What is the light of day one, since it couldn't be the sun? This question rumbled around in my head for a couple of decades. Then one day, I was thinking about it again and a flash went off in my head and I started laughing. It's the wrong question. Try asking this instead: Who is the light?
Everything that is recorded in genesis prior to day 2 occurs not on earth (as it isn't formed yet), but in heaven. God the Father by His Word and Spirit spoke His Son into existence. This light was the beginning of the creation of God. See Revelation 3:14 KJV.
The first humans created were gatherers and they were unable to till the ground. They could eat of every tree. They didn't speak. Adam and Eve were created after God rested. They were the first farmers to till the ground. They were restricted on regarding which trees they could or could not eat from and they were given the ability to speak. God brought the animals to this Adam and derived great pleasure in hearing him name them. This is also why of the existing females on earth none were suitable for Adam, thus God made a woman from his rib (which gave her the ability to speak also).
Thus the 6000 year timeline holds true for when farming began on the earth. It has nothing to do with the original creation of dry land and sea.
Hope this helps.
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Post by verna on Jun 12, 2022 23:20:54 GMT -5
Getting back to the Two Creation Stories. This is a subject that I started delving into when I was about 12 years old. My dad asked me this question: What is the light of day one, since it couldn't be the sun? This question rumbled around in my head for a couple of decades. Then one day, I was thinking about it again and a flash went off in my head and I started laughing. It's the wrong question. Try asking this instead: Who is the light? Everything that is recorded in genesis prior to day 2 occurs not on earth (as it isn't formed yet), but in heaven. God the Father by His Word and Spirit spoke His Son into existence. This light was the beginning of the creation of God. See Revelation 3:14 KJV. The first humans created were gatherers and they were unable to till the ground. They could eat of every tree. They didn't speak. Adam and Eve were created after God rested. They were the first farmers to till the ground. They were restricted on regarding which trees they could or could not eat from and they were given the ability to speak. God brought the animals to this Adam and derived great pleasure in hearing him name them. This is also why of the existing females on earth none were suitable for Adam, thus God made a woman from his rib (which gave her the ability to speak also). Thus the 6000 year timeline holds true for when farming began on the earth. It has nothing to do with the original creation of dry land and sea. Hope this helps. Ok you need to explain more. Where did the other women come from. Am I missing something?
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Post by Annan on Jun 13, 2022 5:49:30 GMT -5
Getting back to the Two Creation Stories. This is a subject that I started delving into when I was about 12 years old. My dad asked me this question: What is the light of day one, since it couldn't be the sun? This question rumbled around in my head for a couple of decades. Then one day, I was thinking about it again and a flash went off in my head and I started laughing. It's the wrong question. Try asking this instead: Who is the light? Everything that is recorded in genesis prior to day 2 occurs not on earth (as it isn't formed yet), but in heaven. God the Father by His Word and Spirit spoke His Son into existence. This light was the beginning of the creation of God. See Revelation 3:14 KJV. The first humans created were gatherers and they were unable to till the ground. They could eat of every tree. They didn't speak. Adam and Eve were created after God rested. They were the first farmers to till the ground. They were restricted on regarding which trees they could or could not eat from and they were given the ability to speak. God brought the animals to this Adam and derived great pleasure in hearing him name them. This is also why of the existing females on earth none were suitable for Adam, thus God made a woman from his rib (which gave her the ability to speak also). Thus the 6000 year timeline holds true for when farming began on the earth. It has nothing to do with the original creation of dry land and sea. Hope this helps. Abel was a hunter gatherer and found food where it grew. Cain was a tiller of the soil and needed the land Abel was using as pasture. This can be seen clearly in the archeology of the Fertile Crescent. The Samarians were wiped out by the agriculturists.
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Post by muse2 on Jun 13, 2022 10:29:27 GMT -5
In response to Annan's question regarding the other women.
The first male and female humans were gatherers. They populated the earth for some amount of time before the first tillers of the ground were created. In God's eyes the female gatherers were not suitable mates for Adam the son of God. Thus God formed Eve from Adam's rib (which gave her the same abilities to till the ground and to speak).
Separate note here: If God had truly wanted women to be silent then He would never have created Eve. He could just as easily given a non verbal female gatherer to be Adam's wife. End of discussion, literally.
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Post by verna on Jun 13, 2022 10:47:21 GMT -5
In response to Annan's question regarding the other women. The first male and female humans were gatherers. They populated the earth for some amount of time before the first tillers of the ground were created. In God's eyes the female gatherers were not suitable mates for Adam the son of God. Thus God formed Eve from Adam's rib (which gave her the same abilities to till the ground and to speak). Separate note here: If God had truly wanted women to be silent then He would never have created Eve. He could just as easily given a non verbal female gatherer to be Adam's wife. End of discussion, literally. i I believe that was my question, not Annan’s so obviously you believe this creation lasted over many years, not the literal six day creation right? so there were already men and women but God wasn’t happy with them so he created another man - Adam - and then Eve?
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Post by BobWilliston on Jun 13, 2022 15:51:36 GMT -5
In response to Annan's question regarding the other women. The first male and female humans were gatherers. They populated the earth for some amount of time before the first tillers of the ground were created. In God's eyes the female gatherers were not suitable mates for Adam the son of God. Thus God formed Eve from Adam's rib (which gave her the same abilities to till the ground and to speak). Separate note here: If God had truly wanted women to be silent then He would never have created Eve. He could just as easily given a non verbal female gatherer to be Adam's wife. End of discussion, literally. What language did they speak?
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Post by xna on Jun 13, 2022 18:56:43 GMT -5
There are more than two creations stories, Let’s not forget the Jewish story of Lilith. youtu.be/01guwJbp_ug
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Post by BobWilliston on Jun 13, 2022 22:30:55 GMT -5
There are more than two creations stories, Let’s not forget the Jewish story of Lilith. youtu.be/01guwJbp_ugMy Jewish brother in law has had some interesting discussions with me about the first few chapters of Genesis.
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Post by Grant on Jun 14, 2022 0:57:02 GMT -5
There are more than two creations stories, Let’s not forget the Jewish story of Lilith. youtu.be/01guwJbp_ugMy Jewish brother in law has had some interesting discussions with me about the first few chapters of Genesis. Enlighten us.
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Post by muse2 on Jun 14, 2022 8:06:50 GMT -5
Verna, my mistake. It was your question. I am a bible believer, and there are two very different descriptions recorded regarding the creation of mankind. In God's timeline, the separation between his dwelling place versus ours took place on day 2 with the creation of the firmament. So in 5 of His days, He established this earth and early mankind. Then He rested. The day He created a man to till the ground is not numbered. It doesn't say God was unhappy with the gatherers; only a time came when it pleased Him to create a man capable of tilling the ground and with whom He could have fellowship. I think of it a bit like this. I have a dearly beloved pet, but I still yearn for true human friends with whom I can relate on a much deeper level.
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Post by verna on Jun 14, 2022 10:24:32 GMT -5
Verna, my mistake. It was your question. I am a bible believer, and there are two very different descriptions recorded regarding the creation of mankind. In God's timeline, the separation between his dwelling place versus ours took place on day 2 with the creation of the firmament. So in 5 of His days, He established this earth and early mankind. Then He rested. The day He created a man to till the ground is not numbered. It doesn't say God was unhappy with the gatherers; only a time came when it pleased Him to create a man capable of tilling the ground and with whom He could have fellowship. I think of it a bit like this. I have a dearly beloved pet, but I still yearn for true human friends with whom I can relate on a much deeper level. So genesis 2 followed genesis 1. There was one batch of humans - hunters and gathers - who could not speak. Then God created Adam and Eve. “7 And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.” When it says they become living souls, does this mean people did not have souls before that? What is your understanding?
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Post by intelchips on Jun 14, 2022 12:18:10 GMT -5
Verna, my mistake. It was your question. I am a bible believer, and there are two very different descriptions recorded regarding the creation of mankind. In God's timeline, the separation between his dwelling place versus ours took place on day 2 with the creation of the firmament. So in 5 of His days, He established this earth and early mankind. Then He rested. The day He created a man to till the ground is not numbered. It doesn't say God was unhappy with the gatherers; only a time came when it pleased Him to create a man capable of tilling the ground and with whom He could have fellowship. I think of it a bit like this. I have a dearly beloved pet, but I still yearn for true human friends with whom I can relate on a much deeper level. So genesis 2 followed genesis 1. There was one batch of humans - hunters and gathers - who could not speak. Then God created Adam and Eve. “7 And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.” When it says they become living souls, does this mean people did not have souls before that? What is your understanding? To put it into perspective for some people, obviously the true believers think that this Great God had a favorite people of the Billions of galaxies and trillions of stars with potential planets and life, he favored a small tribe on this planet at a time when other dying and rising demi-gods were popular. How convenient for them.
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