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Post by wondering on Jul 23, 2007 18:10:47 GMT -5
Has Mr. Bradley stopped displaying his TRUTH 1897 sign at the Knaggs farm in Altamont NY? Didn't hear anything about it last year. It has now been 7 years since Mr. Williams blew the whistle on safety violations prompting the grounds to be unable to handle food or lodging that year.
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Post by _ on Jul 23, 2007 18:23:04 GMT -5
he would be wise to stop... it only alienates exes and the message some want to help spread...
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Post by Bridge on Jul 23, 2007 20:03:24 GMT -5
What about the campaign last year in Kansas and Missouri? Was it more successful to drop leaflets all over the Convention shed?
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Post by Stinky on Jul 23, 2007 20:22:42 GMT -5
he would be wise to stop... it only alienates exes and the message some want to help spread... Yeah you are so effectual in your methods. You must be a Methodist! It takes all kinds dufiss. ;D
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Post by Bridge on Jul 23, 2007 21:08:42 GMT -5
Someone had mentioned using T-shirts to get the message across. What would the T-shirt say?
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Post by suggestion on Jul 23, 2007 21:15:25 GMT -5
Someone had mentioned using T-shirts to get the message across. What would the T-shirt say? How about, "do you know who William Irvine is?" Then in small print it could say, "this group of ex's is in no way related to Brad Lewis and his extreme anger and hatred." ;D
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Post by moman on Jul 23, 2007 22:57:27 GMT -5
What about the campaign last year in Kansas and Missouri? Was it more successful to drop leaflets all over the Convention shed? One thing's for sure - it pissed the workers off In the midwest I know 3 families that don't come to meeting anymore and our workers are blaming the "Wikipedia" postcards. They say "Wiki" is a reference to witchcraft - which is where the "spirit" of the postcard comes from. We had a "special meeting" earlier so the workers could address the postcards. They told us it was full of lies spread by an ex-worker. One worker said Evan but the other glared him down. They have real convincing excuses for every point in the postcard.
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Post by more info on Jul 23, 2007 23:12:09 GMT -5
What about the campaign last year in Kansas and Missouri? Was it more successful to drop leaflets all over the Convention shed? One thing's for sure - it pissed the workers off In the midwest I know 3 families that don't come to meeting anymore and our workers are blaming the "Wikipedia" postcards. They say "Wiki" is a reference to witchcraft - which is where the "spirit" of the postcard comes from. We had a "special meeting" earlier so the workers could address the postcards. They told us it was full of lies spread by an ex-worker. One worker said Evan but the other glared him down. They have real convincing excuses for every point in the postcard. When and where was the special meeting? Which workers were the ones that addressed the postcards?
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Post by excuses for what on Jul 23, 2007 23:19:01 GMT -5
They have real convincing excuses for every point in the postcard. William Irvine created the Truth in 1897. William Irvine is Truth’s founder.
Jesus is truth. Calling something Truth doesn’t make it Jesus. God loves each of us as individuals, not because we are a part of some group. The narrow way is defined by Jesus, not by man or his religious organizations. Mark 9:38,39,40 – "And John answered him saying Master, we saw one casting out devils in thy name and he followeth not us: and we forbad him because he followeth not us. But Jesus said Forbid him not: for there is no man which shall do a miracle in my name that can lightly speak evil of me. For he that is not against us is on our part."
Jesus is our Lord and Savior first, our pattern for living second. Works are done within our heart, not done by our own hands, and never done for show. Salvation is a gift, not something we earn.
It is not a sin to examine your religious beliefs. I John 4:1 – "...try the spirits whether they are of God..." Facts aren't of Satan, but deception is. Acts 5:38,39 – "...for if this counsel or this work be of men, it will come to naught: But if it be of God ye cannot overthrow it..." Pray, read, research these things, and learn for yourself. Prov 1:7 – "...fools despise wisdom and instruction." Let no man (including workers) take thy crown. Do not be deceived. Born into blindness, we have no fault. Choosing blindness, we make the fault our own.
Encyclopedia: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_conventions This postcard? There is not a lot here to argue with. How do they have "real convincing excuses" for this?
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Post by simple on Jul 24, 2007 0:45:07 GMT -5
William Irvine created the Truth in 1897. William Irvine is Truth’s founder.
Jesus is truth. Calling something Truth doesn’t make it Jesus. God loves each of us as individuals, not because we are a part of some group. The narrow way is defined by Jesus, not by man or his religious organizations. Mark 9:38,39,40 – "And John answered him saying Master, we saw one casting out devils in thy name and he followeth not us: and we forbad him because he followeth not us. But Jesus said Forbid him not: for there is no man which shall do a miracle in my name that can lightly speak evil of me. For he that is not against us is on our part."
Jesus is our Lord and Savior first, our pattern for living second. Works are done within our heart, not done by our own hands, and never done for show. Salvation is a gift, not something we earn.
It is not a sin to examine your religious beliefs. I John 4:1 – "...try the spirits whether they are of God..." Facts aren't of Satan, but deception is. Acts 5:38,39 – "...for if this counsel or this work be of men, it will come to naught: But if it be of God ye cannot overthrow it..." Pray, read, research these things, and learn for yourself. Prov 1:7 – "...fools despise wisdom and instruction." Let no man (including workers) take thy crown. Do not be deceived. Born into blindness, we have no fault. Choosing blindness, we make the fault our own.
Encyclopedia: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_conventions This postcard? There is not a lot here to argue with. How do they have "real convincing excuses" for this? Plenty to argue with. ;D but I don't want to for now. Boloney. You can't argue with any of it because there isn't anything false on it.
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Post by simple on Jul 24, 2007 2:21:25 GMT -5
nathan,
sorry, your passive aggressive ploy will not work on me. You suggested that there is something false in the excerpt above. Therefore the onus is on YOU to prove your own words.
Back up your own insinuations, nathan. Until you do, you have nothing to say, and it shows.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2007 2:28:08 GMT -5
quote - "They have real convincing excuses for every point in the postcard."
What is on the postcard? I would like to answer it, and maybe use it as material for a future website.
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Post by ranman77007 on Jul 24, 2007 2:33:02 GMT -5
What about the campaign last year in Kansas and Missouri? Was it more successful to drop leaflets all over the Convention shed? One thing's for sure - it pissed the workers off In the midwest I know 3 families that don't come to meeting anymore and our workers are blaming the "Wikipedia" postcards. They say "Wiki" is a reference to witchcraft - which is where the "spirit" of the postcard comes from. We had a "special meeting" earlier so the workers could address the postcards. They told us it was full of lies spread by an ex-worker. One worker said Evan but the other glared him down. They have real convincing excuses for every point in the postcard. hey bryan, it seems some other people besides me got a strange feeling about wikipedia...
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Post by moman on Jul 24, 2007 12:06:06 GMT -5
Yeah I'm gonna take a stab at remembering what they said - I didn't take notes so from memory is the best I got. I'm just repeating this - I don't agree with it.This guy was a worker 100 years ago and tried to take over. He was asked to leave and did but took a bunch of followers with him. They sometimes call themselves "Truth" and are a lot like us but they have a lot of false doctrine. He is not the founder of OUR faith. JESUS is the founder of our faith. We shouldn't call our way Truth because that is like taking a name. It's a human nature habit we need to break because it puts the focus on the group and not God. Our love for God causes us to gravitate to true believers which is why we are in this group. Our enemy wants us to believe we can love God without being drawn to him and people who love him. Being part of this group is not a salvation requirement but it is a natural drawing we feel if we really love God. Our enemy is trying to fool us into thinking the path is wider than it is with this. This bible verse is taken out of context. What Jesus was teaching here is practical not spiritual. He meant that if someone is not attacking us directly then we don't need to take a defensive posture. For example in the USA we have religious freedom so we don't have to resort to the methods of hiding that are needed in China to spread the Gospel. This is not backed up by scripture. Jesus came to show us how to live and what God expects of us. If Jesus would have came just to save us we wouldn't have this BIBLE (Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth) to read - we would just be saved with no effort of our own. Some believe we are magically saved as an excuse for living by their own way and doing what they want. Our enemy wants us to think we don't need works because then when they come, the wall around our city isn't built. There's nothing wrong with examining what we believe but we have to do it with God leading. One worker said "Have an open mind, but not so open your brains fall out." This is a lie. Satan loves half-truthes - the kind of facts Satan uses. For example this postcard. God uses deception to let our enemies fall. For example God allowed the Egyptians to be deceived into thinking that the Red Sea would allow them to pass since it allowed the Israelites to pass unharmed. The Israelites were God's people so what was true for them was deception and destruction for the Egyptians who didn't love God. I don't remember them talking about this. This is motivated by bitterness against the workers. Our enemy has special hatred for the workers - just like in Jesus day. This is only to decieve. Our enemy wants to confuse our sight with blindness. If he can do that he's won. Don't trust this website. This is a small part of a very big website where anyone can say anything they want and never be challenged. You can't believe everything you read - on or off the Internet. Our enemy uses our curiosity and human nature to mislead us with things like this. Also note that "wiki" means witchcraft. The workers also warned us that things like this postcard would get worse. The enemy of our soul is getting desperate in the last days. Reading what our enemy writes just gives him inroads to our mind and soul. We can cut him off by staying close to God and ignoring postcards and letters like this and stuff on the internet. Remember I'm just repeating - I don't believe it.
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Post by to the dummy on Jul 24, 2007 17:47:55 GMT -5
hey dummy,
Regarding wikipedia, yes you can challenge something if you don't like it. Edit the damn page and quit your whining.
Oh, by the way. It's WICCA which means witchcraft, not WIKI.
Jeez...is there anything else you dummies need explained to you?
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Post by to dummy moman on Jul 24, 2007 19:30:25 GMT -5
WIKI: A collaborative website whose content can be edited by anyone who has access to it.
WICCA: witchcraft, esp. benevolent, nature-oriented practices derived from pre-Christian religions.
moman, you put the duh in dummy!
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Post by 2 DUH REAL DUMMIES on Jul 24, 2007 21:25:38 GMT -5
hey dummy, Regarding wikipedia, yes you can challenge something if you don't like it. Edit the damn page and quit your whining. Oh, by the way. It's WICCA which means witchcraft, not WIKI. Jeez...is there anything else you dummies need explained to you? WIKI: A collaborative website whose content can be edited by anyone who has access to it. WICCA: witchcraft, esp. benevolent, nature-oriented practices derived from pre-Christian religions. moman, you put the duh in dummy! Uh, hello? moman introduced his report with "I'm just repeating this - I don't agree with it" then followed his report with "Remember I'm just repeating - I don't believe it" He he he. Now who's really the dummy.
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Post by 2 dummies on Jul 24, 2007 22:00:19 GMT -5
The dummy is whoever thought that wiki stood for witchcraft....duh!
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Post by God I hate this planet on Jul 24, 2007 23:29:50 GMT -5
hey dummy, Regarding wikipedia, yes you can challenge something if you don't like it. Edit the damn page and quit your whining. Oh, by the way. It's WICCA which means witchcraft, not WIKI. Jeez...is there anything else you dummies need explained to you? just when I read some dumbass 2x2 and thank God I'm no longer associated with them, some raving lunatic ex-2x2 comes along and makes me wish I wasn't associated with them either. Beam me up scotty, there's no intelligent life down here.
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Post by salvage operation on Jul 24, 2007 23:35:13 GMT -5
just when I read some dumbass 2x2 and thank God I'm no longer associated with them, some raving lunatic ex-2x2 comes along and makes me wish I wasn't associated with them either. Beam me up scotty, there's no intelligent life down here. cheer up this outta give you hope www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,290610,00.html
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Post by oops on Jul 24, 2007 23:37:09 GMT -5
you'll have to copy and paste that link to your address bar
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Post by well then on Jul 25, 2007 12:42:09 GMT -5
it seems some other people besides me got a strange feeling about wikipedia... you are not alone in your dimentia LOL
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Post by idea on Jul 25, 2007 14:07:53 GMT -5
I like the idea of TMB t-shirts. A simple design with these words in small print. That way, people could find other people on the grounds who visited this site. Communication could develop. Others might ask about TMB.
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Post by spare us on Jul 25, 2007 16:54:44 GMT -5
hey dummy, Regarding wikipedia, yes you can challenge something if you don't like it. Edit the damn page and quit your whining. Oh, by the way. It's WICCA which means witchcraft, not WIKI. Jeez...is there anything else you dummies need explained to you? just when I read some dumbass 2x2 and thank God I'm no longer associated with them, some raving lunatic ex-2x2 comes along and makes me wish I wasn't associated with them either. Beam me up scotty, there's no intelligent life down here. somehow I have no more sympathy for you now than I did 5 minutes ago. Get over yourself. Quit whining like a starving child.
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Post by moman on Jul 25, 2007 21:40:05 GMT -5
somehow I have no more sympathy for you now than I did 5 minutes ago. Get over yourself. Quit whining like a starving child. For the record, that wasn't my post.
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Post by thats odd on Jul 25, 2007 22:05:09 GMT -5
somehow I have no more sympathy for you now than I did 5 minutes ago. Get over yourself. Quit whining like a starving child. For the record, that wasn't my post. You apparently know how to use the quote feature... or maybe not...
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Post by Brad Lewis on Jul 25, 2007 23:07:50 GMT -5
Plenty to argue with. ;D but I don't want to for now. Boloney. You can't argue with any of it because there isn't anything false on it. Nathan wants to argue with the facts! Everybody knows that Nathan has a problem with people that tell the truth. If you don't lie, Nathan's going to be upset. Praise God when Nathan doesn't like it, someone told the truth. Brad
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Post by conspiracy nut on Jul 26, 2007 9:17:05 GMT -5
You apparently know how to use the quote feature... or maybe not... Is there a conspiracy here?
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