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Post by _ on Jul 21, 2007 20:45:56 GMT -5
In the thread World's most foolish 2x2?, brad stated the following... Bryan,
You too are a compulsive liar. Brad made this accusation without giving any proof or evidence of my being a compulsive liar. I believe Brad's accusation is a blatant falsehood, and request that he either put forward compelling evidence that I'm a compulsive liar or retract his accusation. Brad, what say you?
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Post by diet coke on Jul 21, 2007 20:54:59 GMT -5
fm, if you enjoy this kind of goofy debate, more power to you. Have at.
It's unnecessary, of course...it takes precious little time for any of us to form an opinion about Brad. You're preaching to the choir. But have fun!
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Post by Brad Lewis on Jul 21, 2007 20:57:21 GMT -5
Bryan, You said that I said this when I never did "That the workers are fecal matter?" It is an accusation (you being a compulsive liar) based on many posts of yours. I have confronted you before on your lies and you have not repented. I do not consider you a Christian Bryan, so if you don't like the fact that you lie, then you can change with God's help. If I would retract the statement that you are a compulsive liar, then I would have to lie about that. I must remain true to my scriptural convictions and bear a true witness to what I have seen you write. Brad
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Post by _ on Jul 21, 2007 21:26:26 GMT -5
Bryan, You said that I said this when I never did "That the workers are fecal matter?" I NEVER stated that was an exact quote from you brad... Which your compulsive liar accusation is based on... On 03.05.07 you stated the following, "I would love to describe the workers without gross and insulting terms. When they are Christians, then I will.
How do you describe fecal matter that has been rotting in sewer lines? Wouldn't you use gross and disgusting terms?" That is an exact quote from you... Agreed? Then today at 1:12am under the World's most foolish 2x2? thread I asked you in reply #13 the following... That the workers are fecal matter? (please see the thread for the FULL CONTEXT of the question). Under that thread I never stated that you used the exact quote that the "workers are fecal matter", just as I did not state you used the exact quote "friends lack reason" (from your quote on 06.25.07 in which you stated, "All the 2x2s are rotten apples"). Do you deny that on 03.05.07 you equated the workers to fecal matter? Please list when and where you've confronted me? Another falsehood from Brad... Big surprise since I challenge you and confront your hate... You have yet to prove or provide evidence that I am a compulsive liar... Even if you proved that I lied regarding your comments on fecal matter (I did not lie in my posts), that does not constitute the label of compulsive liar. Please provide proof that I am a compulsive liar or retract the accusation. Yet you have not done this brad... You have not provided a true witness to what you've seen me write since you have not shown where I compulsively lied. But let's talk a little bit about you brad... I believe you to be a BITTER and HATE FULLED excuse for a man who hides behind twisted ideology to further and justify his mockery of the Friends and Workers. I also believe you are fixated on the 2x2 church and will do anything you can to lash out and hurt those who choose to stay in the fellowship. Your fruits towards the Friends and Workers prove one thing, that you're lacking in the characteristics of a child of God. AND ABOVE ALL, I believe you to be mentally unbalanced and need professional help... Did you not say on 05.19.07, "Many workers go mental and end up in psych wards or cannot cope in life even years after gettting out of the work."? PERHAPS ONE COULD APPLY SUCH A QUOTE TO YOU BRAD... NO?
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Post by _ on Jul 21, 2007 21:31:14 GMT -5
fm, if you enjoy this kind of goofy debate, more power to you. Have at. It's unnecessary, of course...it takes precious little time for any of us to form an opinion about Brad. You're preaching to the choir. But have fun! By calling me a compulsive liar, Brad becomes the liar... He was unable to see the context I asked the question, in which I NEVER attributed the phrase in my question to a direct quote from him. Just as I never attributed the exact phrases in the rest of my questions from the posts he gleaned I was a compulsive liar.... Go ahead and look at the rest of the questions in the reply #13 on the other thread... It is quite obvious that I was not using direct quotes from him in that post or attributing the phrases in my questions as direct quotes from brad... If that had been the case I would have used quotes...
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Post by Brad Lewis on Jul 21, 2007 23:55:22 GMT -5
Bryan, I made a mistake reading your post. Your posts remind me of fecal matter. It really stinks being around it and looking at your writing makes me disgusted. I don't care whether you use quotes or not. If you like to insinuate lies, you can joing the ranks for the workers. Obviously I don't have any outspoken friends here to reprimand you for your behaviour. But, that doesn't dissuade me from pointing out the obvious again. I still believe you are a compulsive liar and a rock short of a box. a sprinkle short of a cookie and a whisker short of a cat. I think your assumption that if someone calls a liar a liar that that makes them a liar is invalid. Your whole reasoning is a straw man's argument. Brad
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Post by _ on Jul 22, 2007 0:51:25 GMT -5
Bryan, I made a mistake reading your post. Your posts remind me of fecal matter. It really stinks being around it and looking at your writing makes me disgusted. What a childish response to a serious issue. I have not insinuated any lies. Are you suggesting you need others to be a distraction so that you do not have to defend your accusation against me?Yet you are unable to put forward compelling evidence that I'm a compulsive liar. Why is that brad? This makes no sense brad, and I have made no such assumption. Do you even know what a straw argument is brad? Let me be clear - YOU called me a compulsive liar... and when I challenged your accusation you gave a nonsensical answer.
Brad, Provide compelling evidence that I'm a compulsive liar or retract your accusation!
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Post by Admitting on Jul 22, 2007 1:43:23 GMT -5
Admission of being wrong is one of the hardest things to do in life for nearly everybody. Much easier to: bluster... bully.... intimidate.... attack..... falsely accuse.... insist right is wrong and wrong is right.... pontificate... equivocate... fabricate.... and on and on...
These acts as well as things like the soft answer already mentioned are surely indicators of what and who someone really is. The searchlight of God truly turns inward.
How precious is our Lord, who when falsely accused opened not his mouth again so that HE fulfilled the prophecy "like a lamb dumb befor shearers, he went to the slaughter." Thankfully this has not been foretold of me. Not so easy to do.
DJ
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Post by wanttobewithGod on Jul 22, 2007 2:35:53 GMT -5
your quote, Bradley....I don't think you are a Christian, Bryan. ...made me lol. Do you really THINK Bryan CARES if YOU think he is a Christian or not??? With all of the blah blah blah you post, I would think you would realize, at minimum, that Bryan would only care if God thought he was a Christian or not....and the opinion of Bradley Lewis prollllyyy doesn't concern him too much...but hey..might be wrong. What do you think, Bryan? and for you conspiracy theorists out there....let's not forget the requisite....shhheeeeeshhhh. M.
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Post by _ on Jul 22, 2007 14:05:37 GMT -5
bump
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Post by incredible on Jul 23, 2007 5:04:32 GMT -5
This thread is an example of why this board has no credibility. People like Brad can post any slander they like.
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Post by it is clear on Jul 23, 2007 6:10:10 GMT -5
Brad Lewis is digging his own grave.....slowly but surely
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Post by Brads not alone on Jul 23, 2007 6:18:41 GMT -5
Brad Lewis is digging his own grave.....slowly but surely There is a handful of regular posters who dump garbage on this forum, thinking they are the only ones who have valid things to say. Brad is not alone. Further these things have been happening long before Brad came along. So what is the big deal. If you don't like what the person says then don't reply and just move on.
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Post by gloryintruth on Jul 23, 2007 6:23:04 GMT -5
[Bryan Wrote] Brad made this accusation without giving any proof or evidence of my being a compulsive liar.
Although I have had my differences with Bryan in the past, I would be the last person to accuse him of dishonesty. Bryan is certainly not a compulsive liar.
However, I do think Bryan is wasting his time engaging Brad in this debate. Brad makes sweeping unsupported statements regarding what other people have written, and when called on them, can never furnish any evidence or proof. I have been called a great many things by Brad - satanic, moronic, a liar, etc, etc - and because Brad operates in a warped mentality, he believes that all of his accusations, insinuations and insults are perfectly consistent with Christianity.
He once challenged people to point out from the Bible where he has erred. I did so in detail, providing a bunch of verses and commandments that he has broken in his crusade against the friends. But he ignored the texts I provided.
I sincerely feel quite sorry for Brad. I used to think that his behaviour was committed in ignorance, that he acted without any understanding of how he came across and the impact he had on others. I used to think if only I was kind and gentle, not stooping to his ad hominem tactics, that perhaps I would at least be able to build a relationship; a dialogue with him.
But small events changed my mind on that score - especially when he started accusing even good and godly unprofessing people of being in league with Satan. I realised that Brad is absolutely committed to division and strife. He has no concept of unity, and no interest in peace. This is reflected in his carefully devised sprays which are always neatly calculated to stir up contention and arouse anger. (I think this kind of response validates something, but I am not sure what.)
I really started to back away when I noticed that Brad identifies himself with God. Whenever he gets angry or annoyed at someone, he damns them to hell, dooming them to everlasting death - the perogative of God alone. He has dished out more death and damnation than even creepy street-corner fundamentalists. This is probably because he believes his interpretation of the Bible and the world to be absolute truth, and for anyone to be so insolent as to suggest otherwise will always earn you a blast of fire.
Brad seems intimately acquainted with death, doom, damnation, hell, Satan, powers of the devil etc, etc, etc.
And I wonder whether like me, you find this significant?
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Post by hello on Jul 23, 2007 7:44:42 GMT -5
hi, jason.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2007 8:07:56 GMT -5
hello hello
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Post by las logged out on Jul 23, 2007 10:36:27 GMT -5
Bryan, You said that I said this when I never did "That the workers are fecal matter?" It is an accusation (you being a compulsive liar) based on many posts of yours. I have confronted you before on your lies and you have not repented. I do not consider you a Christian Bryan, so if you don't like the fact that you lie, then you can change with God's help. If I would retract the statement that you are a compulsive liar, then I would have to lie about that. I must remain true to my scriptural convictions and bear a true witness to what I have seen you write. Brad NOW NOW boys easy does it
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Post by las logged out on Jul 23, 2007 10:38:38 GMT -5
Brad Lewis is digging his own grave.....slowly but surely Hear Hear boys easy does it
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Post by Interesting on Jul 23, 2007 10:48:52 GMT -5
Interesting analysis, GIT. You raise a number of well thought out points.
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Post by savedbyblood on Jul 24, 2007 2:57:34 GMT -5
Brad, Nathan - I believe a man named Jesus Christ who is the Son of the Living God once said: "Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again."
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Post by Anonymous on Jul 26, 2007 1:06:40 GMT -5
Didn't the same Jesus say Judge with righteous judgement? In Matthew 23 Jesus had many harsh words to say against the Pharisees... Was he judging them when he told them so many woes... or was he making a righteous judgment there?Yes, he judged them. He judged them with the same judgement he judged his own self. You do not think Jesus was guilty of anything he judged against others do you?
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Post by _ on Jul 27, 2007 0:22:49 GMT -5
waiting for brad to reply...
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Post by how do you on Jul 27, 2007 0:42:50 GMT -5
waiting for brad to reply... How do you keep Bryan busy? Give him a card that says "turn over" on both sides.
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Post by Henry on Jul 27, 2007 0:43:15 GMT -5
fmofthe2x2s , sounds sort of snakie to me! Ready to pounce!
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Post by ha ha ha ha on Jul 27, 2007 0:45:48 GMT -5
waiting for brad to reply... How do you keep Bryan busy? Give him a card that says "turn over" on both sides. Ha Ha Ha!!! You are so original! My god, I just want to kiss your butt for being so funny.... I wish I was like you. Can I have your children? You rock! Just imagine, you and me would make great cell mates
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Post by botany on Jul 28, 2007 20:55:24 GMT -5
*sigh*
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Post by _ on Jul 28, 2007 21:44:16 GMT -5
Why won't brad stand behind his words and/or retract his false accusation?
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Post by savedbyblood on Jul 29, 2007 2:30:22 GMT -5
Brad, Nathan - I believe a man named Jesus Christ who is the Son of the Living God once said: "Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again."
Didn't the same Jesus say Judge with righteous judgement? In Matthew 23 Jesus had many harsh words to say against the Pharisees... Was he judging them when he told them so many woes... or was he making a righteous judgment there?Jesus did not Judge while on the Earth. Judgement has been reserved for that Great Day when all men come before Him to be Judged. Jesus harsh words to the Pharisees were a warning of what they will face on that day. Too bad that they did not believe Him! To judge someone's soul while still alive and "unsaved" according to "rules" or "doctrine" is a dangerous place to be for the one doing the judgement. Jesus did not judge these Pharisees souls at this time. We would do well to not judge each other here on the TMB just because we have a difference in interpretation or belief. I would think that when Jesus told his diciples when hearing of the group casting out devils in his name but not being a part of their group "If they are not against us, they are for us," might have had a greater impact upon level-headed people. Would Jesus condemn the "Truth" any quicker than the "Outsiders"? Who are not "for us?" Ref: Woe - Deep distress or misery, as from grief; wretchedness. Acts 10:42: And he commanded us to preach unto the people, and to testify that it is he which was ordained of God to be the Judge of quick and dead. Luke 3:16: John answered, saying unto them all, I indeed baptize you with water; but one mightier than I cometh, the latchet of whose shoes I am not worthy to unloose: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost and with fire: 17: Whose fan is in his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor, and will gather the wheat into his garner; but the chaff he will burn with fire unquenchable.2 Corinthians 5:10: For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad. Matthew 25:31: When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory: 32: And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats: 33: And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.34: Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
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