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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2020 19:09:25 GMT -5
Why can’t at bare minimum , the Federal Assault Weapons Ban ,,enacted in 1994 by Bush ?? which expired in 2004 be re-enacted ? Alvin The Federal Assault Weapons Ban enacted in 1994 expired in 2004. Attempts to renew this ban have failed, as have attempts to pass a new ban, such as the Assault Weapons Ban of 2013 (AWB 2013). Seven U.S. states have assault weapons bans: three were enacted before the 1994 federal ban and four more passed before the federal ban expired. The majority of states (43) have no assault weapons ban, although two, Minnesota, have training and background check requirements for purchasers of assault weapons that are stricter than those for ordinary firearms. While there are no statewide assault weapon bans in Colorado and Illinois, local bans exist in certain cities or counties in each of these states. In 2018, most Americans supported a ban on assault weapons, according to polls.[1][2][3] The 1994 federal and 1989 state ban in California were prompted by the 1989 Cleveland Elementary School shooting in Stockton, California. Existing and proposed weapon bans come under renewed interest in the wake of mass shootings, most recently after the December 2012 Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting in Newtown, Connecticut. In addition to state bans, Washington, D.C. and some U.S. counties and municipalities have assault weapons laws. Wally is a Christian reconstructionist. Government as we know it has no place in the affairs of righteous Christians, other than to secure such righteous Christians to administer their righteous justice on the rest of humanity. That's not my definition or construction, that's the factual explicitly recorded objective of the American Christian Reconstructionist umbrella. [Source is available if needed.] yea right...where did i put my membership card?
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Post by Annan on Jan 26, 2020 19:27:25 GMT -5
So what. Making babies are proclivities too. That’s lust. 😉 I can see how a Christian would think that. In my Atheist world, sex is a way of expressing and sharing my intimate self. That part of me that is personal and private. Sharing myself with my husband is my way of expressing my love and trust in him. Again, I can see how you would see sex as lust. Par for the course.
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Post by nathan on Jan 26, 2020 19:33:10 GMT -5
Are you a student of Lee now? what is proclivities... Keep it simple so your students know what you are lecturing or trying to teach them. How can they understand you if you speak words they don't know. How freaking stupid do you think we are??? Oh. You said your students. Okay. You're students are stupid. Guess that means us Atheists (Or should that be we Atheists? ) are the smart ones? Man, you need to read the post slowly.... take a deep breath... breath in and breath out... BobW. used to be a teacher so, I was saying it was his students in his class NOT you atheists on TMB. Now, you get it?
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Post by slowtosee on Jan 26, 2020 19:40:08 GMT -5
I can see how a Christian would think that. In my Atheist world, sex is a way of expressing and sharing my intimate self. That part of me that is personal and private. Sharing myself with my husband is my way of expressing my love and trust in him. Again, I can see how you would see sex as lust. Par for the course. Notice her wink and a smile . Might have to find something else to “accuse” her with , Christian and all . Lots of easy ones available lol Altogether now “Down with Christians “ What number is that in the old book ? Key of ......... We will stand as we sing please ......... Alvin
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Post by joanna on Jan 26, 2020 19:55:45 GMT -5
If we extrapolate the belief in something that cannot be proven, then we should be willing and prepared to believe in all other Gods. There is no difference in the fundamental motivator for the claims made by the Christian, the Hindu; Orthodox Jew; Muslim; Mormon; Jain; Buddhist and so on and certainly even less than 'no-difference' between the 2x2 and the ex-2x2. For the latter acquired their faith by absorbing the biblical teachings via the workers. Every single faith believer manifests the identical response to the messages that tell of a Divine Being (s) and their alleged interventions within this world and humanity. I could no longer honestly conform to these teachings. Withholding belief until there is evidence to support a concept is just a simple approach. That we all apply this in *everyday living is another sure sign that failing to do so when exposed to extraordinary, un evidenced claims is a flawed approach. We rely on evidence to *drive a car; fly in a plane; when using a computer; seeking medical advice; to acquire a basic education; to use implements within our home and so on. It makes no sense that Christians place such high stakes on an alleged Eternity yet they require no evidence that life after death is even a reality !? So the Christian's whole life is directed towards a future that they cannot prove exists. The bible has been exposed to be an unreliable text; much of it authored by unknown people; many years after the events upon which Christianity is based were supposed to have occurred. Miraculous events - yet logic informs us there is no such thing as a miracle. The bible contains false information and contradicts scientific facts. Christianity and other faith-based beliefs inflict harm. Trump's spiritual adviser's rants in the video posted by openingact34 are an example of the dishonest and bizarre impact on the human mind when it absorbs and heeds beliefs that cannot be supported by facts. The woman refers to witches and Satanic pregnancies and all of you who believe in the bible are a hair's breadth away from adopting her approach if you have not already. Whereas those of us who do not believe in the supernatural, see her as a dangerous, looney-tune. A person who lacks the ability to discern between fact and fiction.
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Post by matisse on Jan 26, 2020 20:13:19 GMT -5
Well, there's this from 2014. You were talking about unbelievers being the children of Satan: THANKS, so much.... HOW in the world did you get your professing mother having SEX with Satan= You are the product of it and your professing father is Satan from reading my post? ARE YOU serious. Aren't you reading too much into my post and taken things WAY out of context, here? Don't you think.
These are the words of Jesus and God who said these people will end up in the same place with Satan the second death= cast in the Lake of fire in Revelation 21:4-8 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away. And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.
And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely. He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son. But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and ladymongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.I would be happy to be wrong about what you wrote. I don't know what you meant when you wrote (referencing unbelievers), (Nathan) "Many are the children of Satan, the fallen angels seeds Unholy Union between them and with human women of this earth... Just like Judas Iscariot. Jesus said, " One of you is the devil/Children." They don't want to call God their Father because Satan is theirs father."
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Post by sharingtheriches on Jan 26, 2020 20:16:06 GMT -5
Why does it have to be an army? If you have one or two humans walking or riding asses or camels in the area and a preying predator wants to attack, the person(s) should have something besides a coincidental ass’s jawbone to use to slay the predator. swords were really designed to kill humans not animals...more likely they would use a spear for an animal.... But if they needed to butcher some animal for eating, the sword is a better tool. I’ve heard that there was two different kinds of spears/javelins, one was long and they used both ends. Piercing one in front and knocking down someone from behind. But the shorter spear/javelin was to be the one thrown and pierce said foe/animal.
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Post by sharingtheriches on Jan 26, 2020 20:18:21 GMT -5
I can see how a Christian would think that. In my Atheist world, sex is a way of expressing and sharing my intimate self. That part of me that is personal and private. Sharing myself with my husband is my way of expressing my love and trust in him. Again, I can see how you would see sex as lust. Par for the course. See the winking smile? That was a joke as was Bob’s comment. I agree, intimacy is very very great for expressing one’s devout ness to one’s mate. I’ve been told that true Christians can share a more intimate connection during sex with their spouses. I can’t vouch for that, as I’ve only had a Christian spouse. It was a very intimate connection but then who’s to say it isn’t for any couple that love one another as themselves?
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Post by Annan on Jan 26, 2020 20:19:12 GMT -5
How freaking stupid do you think we are??? Oh. You said your students. Okay. You're students are stupid. Guess that means us Atheists (Or should that be we Atheists? ) are the smart ones? Man, you need to read the post slowly.... take a deep breath... breath in and breath out... BobW. used to be a teacher so, I was saying it was his students in his class NOT you atheists on TMB. Now, you get it?Yes. I did misread. I also deleted my post moments after I posted. You are very quick on the draw, Nathan.
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Post by Annan on Jan 26, 2020 20:23:23 GMT -5
I can see how a Christian would think that. In my Atheist world, sex is a way of expressing and sharing my intimate self. That part of me that is personal and private. Sharing myself with my husband is my way of expressing my love and trust in him. Again, I can see how you would see sex as lust. Par for the course. See the winking smile? That was a joke as was Bob’s comment. I agree, intimacy is very very great for expressing one’s devout ness to one’s mate. I’ve been told that true Christians can share a more intimate connection during sex with their spouses. I can’t vouch for that, as I’ve only had a Christian spouse. It was a very intimate connection but then who’s to say it isn’t for any couple that love one another as themselves? Seems I'm hot headed tonight. My apologies. You activated a trigger. I blew my stack. Lots of 2x2 issues from my childhood that obviously aren't healed yet.
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Post by BobWilliston on Jan 26, 2020 20:37:45 GMT -5
I can see how a Christian would think that. In my Atheist world, sex is a way of expressing and sharing my intimate self. That part of me that is personal and private. Sharing myself with my husband is my way of expressing my love and trust in him. Again, I can see how you would see sex as lust. Par for the course. Somehow "pleasure" and "sin" got to be the same thing. Fortunately for Christians they haven't regulated eating like they did sex. But then, you can live longer without food than you can without sex.
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Post by BobWilliston on Jan 26, 2020 20:40:36 GMT -5
I can see how a Christian would think that. In my Atheist world, sex is a way of expressing and sharing my intimate self. That part of me that is personal and private. Sharing myself with my husband is my way of expressing my love and trust in him. Again, I can see how you would see sex as lust. Par for the course. See the winking smile? That was a joke as was Bob’s comment. I agree, intimacy is very very great for expressing one’s devout ness to one’s mate. I’ve been told that true Christians can share a more intimate connection during sex with their spouses. I can’t vouch for that, as I’ve only had a Christian spouse. It was a very intimate connection but then who’s to say it isn’t for any couple that love one another as themselves? Then who's to say a good Christian marriage can be death to a decently functioning sex life?
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Post by Roselyn T on Jan 26, 2020 21:01:37 GMT -5
From someone who lost their dear mother from cancer, the comment by Nathan, that Satan is responsible for cancer, is disgusting. huh? Both God and satan can do things if you've read your bible. and just because satan did something to someone doesn't mean that person did anything wrong....read the story of Job for clarification.... Well maybe you should take your own advise @wally ...read your Bible and think about Job, instead of hiding behind your "worldly second amendment" to justify why you have no faith that your God to protect you !! Talk about hypocritical !
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Jan 26, 2020 21:05:36 GMT -5
I can see how a Christian would think that. In my Atheist world, sex is a way of expressing and sharing my intimate self. That part of me that is personal and private. Sharing myself with my husband is my way of expressing my love and trust in him. Again, I can see how you would see sex as lust. Par for the course. Somehow "pleasure" and "sin" got to be the same thing. Fortunately for Christians they haven't regulated eating like they did sex. But then, you can live longer without food than you can without sex. What about bacon, ham and lobster? OT banned them and yet they are quite pleasurable to eat.
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Post by Roselyn T on Jan 26, 2020 21:05:55 GMT -5
Matthew 26:52. Then Jesus said unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: FOR ALL THEY THAT TAKE THE SWORD SHALL PERISH WITH THE SWORD. But that is NOT the United Stated The Second Amendment: It is the citizens right to bear arms to protect themselves and their families and country... God and the apostles wants His children to OBEY the LAW of the land. Are you telling me, wally and millions of Americans citizens should NOT bear arms! You are going against the teachings of God by NOT allowing me to bear arms for personal protection of myself and family.
You are taken Jesus verse out of CONTEXT again! The Christians Vaudois bear arms had weapons to protect themselves and their own families against the CRUEL RCC inquisitors for over 1500 yrs. The RCC crusaders/killers slaughtered them by 100,000s during those dark days, even Pope John Paul and Francis apologized to the world about those horrible days!
If you, or any intruders come to my house and harm me or my family I will KILL you all with knives, guns, or whatever weapons I can grab. This way you or them can't come back and sue me for stabbing them. That is my right and Second Amendment according to the law of the land in U.S.A and in most countries around the world to protect our families at all cost.
So why don't the Workers carry guns nathan ?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2020 21:13:24 GMT -5
huh? Both God and satan can do things if you've read your bible. and just because satan did something to someone doesn't mean that person did anything wrong....read the story of Job for clarification.... Well maybe you should take your own advise @wally ...read your Bible and think about Job, instead of hiding behind your "worldly second amendment" to justify why you have no faith that your God to protect you !! Talk about hypocritical ! you really have no understanding as far as the bible goes...i read mine all the time how about you? i don't think hypocritical is the word you want to use, maybe if i said others can't have firearms but i can that would be hypocritical... i have complete faith that my God is protecting me through the 2nd amendment.... you never win these debates with me i don't know why you even try anymore.....
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Post by Roselyn T on Jan 26, 2020 21:16:08 GMT -5
Paula White, President Trump's primary spiritual advisor and White House staff member, gave a very intriguing prayer/sermon recently. She talked about satanic pregnancies and prayed that they would miscarry immediately. "We cancel every surprise, from the witchcraft in the marine kingdom… any spirit of control, any Jezebel… We come against the marine kingdom, we come against the animal kingdom… we break the power in the name of Jesus… We command any satanic pregnancies to miscarry right now.” Take a listen: Maybe some of the believers can explain: How do Satanic pregnancies work exactly? Does the devil get women pregnant in a similar manner to how the Holy Spirit got Mary pregnant? When Paula White commands these miscarriages in the name of Jesus, is Jesus helping her perform celestial abortions? How does the "marine kingdom" play into all of this? Is it related to hollow Earth? Very interesting. Paula White's body shape looks like a lizard! Plus those exposed shoulders ... oh those exposed shoulders! Perhaps it's the skin tight jeans she's wearing. I know the Amish would find this offensive as would the Mennonites, and I know the workers/friends would too. She reminds me of the "fake minister" Joyce Meyer who I saw on stage (on TV) one time, down on the floor, wallering around like a dang hog! Then, she rolled over on her back, raised her legs up and was kicking her feet all over the place and screeching out louder than a screech owl! Not very "lady like" to say the least and pretty crude and rude! In the name of MY GOD? I don't think so. I don't know what kind of "GODLY" sermon she was supposedly presenting. I don't think Jesus nor any of the disciples taught or preached that way. She looked so ridiculous I switched the channel! What is the issue you have with her shoulders jetmech !!! Seriously don't you think women have shoulders !!!
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Post by nathan on Jan 26, 2020 21:16:42 GMT -5
THANKS, so much.... HOW in the world did you get your professing mother having SEX with Satan= You are the product of it and your professing father is Satan from reading my post? ARE YOU serious. Aren't you reading too much into my post and taken things WAY out of context, here? Don't you think.
These are the words of Jesus and God who said these people will end up in the same place with Satan the second death= cast in the Lake of fire in Revelation 21:4-8 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away. And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.
And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely. He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son. But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and ladymongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. I would be happy to be wrong about what you wrote. I don't know what you meant when you wrote (referencing unbelievers), (Nathan) "Many are the children of Satan, the fallen angels seeds Unholy Union between them and with human women of this earth... Just like Judas Iscariot Jesus said, " One of you is the devil/Children." They don't want to call God their Father because Satan is theirs father." Thanks, let me clarify... Adam and Eve BAD choice in the Garden of Eden by choosing to eat the forbidden fruit= to be with Satan for eternity which brought Second Death/Lake of Fire for eternity, to them and ALL of their mortal children on earth. Their humans souls (UNBELIEVERS) belong to Satan, and he keeps them inside the inner earth to be appear in the judgment day to be damned for eternity.
Like I said for years, there are fallen angels who can have sex with women of this earth according to the book of Enoch, 200 fallen angels did just that and they create the Nephilim/giants on the earth to destroy humanity so Christ can't come to redeem the believers from Hades/realm of the dead which had been kept in inner earth.
Satan has the ability to do the same, he can have sex with the women/Eve from earth to create His own hybrid race children= Cain/Pharaohs, the Herod descendants, the Roman Emperors and their descendants= Illuminati to be RULERS on the earth over the mortal human beings. Judas and many of the Pharisees and others were the children of the devil/Satan descendants of Cain. Satan was their father that was why they wanted to KILL Jesus.
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Post by Grant on Jan 26, 2020 21:21:23 GMT -5
Do you carry a gun or have one in your house, Nathan?
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Post by Roselyn T on Jan 26, 2020 21:24:01 GMT -5
Well maybe you should take your own advise @wally ...read your Bible and think about Job, instead of hiding behind your "worldly second amendment" to justify why you have no faith that your God to protect you !! Talk about hypocritical ! you really have no understanding as far as the bible goes...i read mine all the time how about you? i don't think hypocritical is the word you want to use, maybe if i said others can't have firearms but i can that would be hypocritical... i have complete faith that my God is protecting me through the 2nd amendment.... you never win these debates with me i don't know why you even try anymore..... Oh so God is protecting you through the second amendment now !!! You are being hypocritical because you told @seventy to read Job when she told nathan his comment was disgusting, which it was. But you hide behind your second amendment because you don't have the faith that your God can protect you. You are being hypocritical because you expect others to just have faith but you don't !! Why don't the Workers carry guns if they believe God is protecting them through the second amendment @wally ?
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Post by nathan on Jan 26, 2020 21:27:36 GMT -5
Do you carry a gun or have one in your house, Nathan? Nope, but I have all kinds of weapons... My hands and feet are deadly weapons. I have knives, bats, and so on. Each believer decides which weapon for them to use for personal protection and for him/her and family.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2020 21:31:46 GMT -5
you really have no understanding as far as the bible goes...i read mine all the time how about you? i don't think hypocritical is the word you want to use, maybe if i said others can't have firearms but i can that would be hypocritical... i have complete faith that my God is protecting me through the 2nd amendment.... you never win these debates with me i don't know why you even try anymore..... Oh so God is protecting you through the second amendment now !!! You are being hypocritical because you told @seventy to read Job when she told nathan his comment was disgusting, which it was. But you hide behind your second amendment because you don't have the faith that your God can protect you. You are being hypocritical because you expect others to just have faith but you don't !! Why don't the Workers carry guns if they believe God is protecting them through the second amendment @wally ? like i said i don't think you know what your doing with the word hypocritical....who says i expect others to have faith but not me? i would have it that everyone was armed as i am. maybe you should speak less and listen more i already told you why the workers don't carry.... the jews/hebrews carried swords did they have faith?
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Post by Roselyn T on Jan 26, 2020 21:31:52 GMT -5
Do you carry a gun or have one in your house, Nathan? Nope, but I have all kinds of weapons... My hands and feet are deadly weapons. I have knives, bats, and so on. Each believer decides which weapon for them to use for personal protection and family.So what weapons do the Workers carry with them for personal protection nathan....guns, knives, bats
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Post by nathan on Jan 26, 2020 21:36:00 GMT -5
Nope, but I have all kinds of weapons... My hands and feet are deadly weapons. I have knives, bats, and so on. Each believer decides which weapon for them to use for personal protection and family. So what weapons do the Workers carry with them for personal protection nathan ....guns, knives, bats The brothers use whatever weapons they can find and be fast runners, sister workers some have mace pepper sprays, alarms keys.
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Post by slowtosee on Jan 26, 2020 21:37:29 GMT -5
See the winking smile? That was a joke as was Bob’s comment. I agree, intimacy is very very great for expressing one’s devout ness to one’s mate. I’ve been told that true Christians can share a more intimate connection during sex with their spouses. I can’t vouch for that, as I’ve only had a Christian spouse. It was a very intimate connection but then who’s to say it isn’t for any couple that love one another as themselves? Seems I'm hot headed tonight. My apologies. You activated a trigger. I blew my stack. Lots of 2x2 issues from my childhood that obviously aren't healed yet. . We all “ walking wounded “ , no matter our background , and all have our “triggers”. You good. Alvin
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Post by Roselyn T on Jan 26, 2020 21:41:26 GMT -5
Oh so God is protecting you through the second amendment now !!! You are being hypocritical because you told @seventy to read Job when she told nathan his comment was disgusting, which it was. But you hide behind your second amendment because you don't have the faith that your God can protect you. You are being hypocritical because you expect others to just have faith but you don't !! Why don't the Workers carry guns if they believe God is protecting them through the second amendment @wally ? like i said i don't think you know what your doing with the word hypocritical....who says i expect others to have faith but not me? i would have it that everyone was armed as i am. maybe you should speak less and listen more i already told you why the workers don't carry.... the jews/hebrews carried swords did they have faith? Well maybe you should have thought about that before telling @seventy to read her bible and think of Job !! You were telling her bad things happen but that's part of Gods plan, but you are not willing to do the same thing yourself. But of course your God told you its okay to carry a gun !! Remind me why the Workers don't carry guns again ? Thank goodness other countries don't have the mentality of the US and their bloody guns !!!
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Post by Roselyn T on Jan 26, 2020 21:42:58 GMT -5
So what weapons do the Workers carry with them for personal protection nathan ....guns, knives, bats The brothers use whatever weapons they can find and be fast runners, sister workers some have mace pepper sprays, alarms keys.Do brother Workers carry guns nathan ....yes or no ?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2020 21:43:54 GMT -5
like i said i don't think you know what your doing with the word hypocritical....who says i expect others to have faith but not me? i would have it that everyone was armed as i am. maybe you should speak less and listen more i already told you why the workers don't carry.... the jews/hebrews carried swords did they have faith? Well maybe you should have thought about that before telling @seventy to read her bible and think of Job !! You were telling her bad things happen but that's part of Gods plan, but you are not willing to do the same thing yourself. But of course your God told you its okay to carry a gun !! Remind me why the Workers don't carry guns again ? Thank goodness other countries don't have the mentality of the US and their bloody guns !!! the jews/hebrews carried swords did they have faith?
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