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Post by Get off of TMB on Sept 28, 2019 12:02:45 GMT -5
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Post by Get off of TMB on Sept 28, 2019 16:39:28 GMT -5
I see some Oregon workers there.
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Post by Get off of TMB on Sept 29, 2019 17:42:02 GMT -5
Is Irving Ross in Virginia? I thought he would die in Ohio. Who oversees Ohio? Carlton Schooly?
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Post by xna on Oct 2, 2019 20:40:31 GMT -5
That 1950’s fashion really stands out. They definitely dress to draw attention to themselves.
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Post by joanna on Oct 2, 2019 22:15:45 GMT -5
Get off of TMBDo you ever wonder if publishing images and the associated identities may be against the individual's wishes. You comment under a pseudonym so it presents that you prefer to keep your ID under wraps. Treat others as you would like to be treated?
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Post by sharingtheriches on Oct 2, 2019 22:36:56 GMT -5
Wow! Great to see some very familiar faces. Bertha Magsam looks about the same, maybe a bit thinner and more aged! Jennifer looks great, Lorraine Lerwick looks like Lorraine though she’s completely white haired now-last time I saw her she still had some steel grey hair in the back. Arlene looks great. I wonder if she and the two Jennifers are still laboring overseas?
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Post by sharingtheriches on Oct 2, 2019 22:39:38 GMT -5
Get off of TMBDo you ever wonder if publishing images and the associated identities may be against the individual's wishes. You comment under a pseudonym so it presents that you prefer to keep your ID under wraps. Treat others as you would like to be treated? They wouldn’t be having their own photos made if they were so set against their faces being shared. The names under the photo are nearly impossible to read and unless you know the folks the speaking list doesn’t tell who is who!
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Post by speak on Oct 2, 2019 23:13:10 GMT -5
Get off of TMB Do you ever wonder if publishing images and the associated identities may be against the individual's wishes. You comment under a pseudonym so it presents that you prefer to keep your ID under wraps. Treat others as you would like to be treated? They are definitely not with permission. Some are from a place where they are asked not to be shared on other sites and then there comes the criticism.
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Post by speak on Oct 2, 2019 23:14:07 GMT -5
Get off of TMB Do you ever wonder if publishing images and the associated identities may be against the individual's wishes. You comment under a pseudonym so it presents that you prefer to keep your ID under wraps. Treat others as you would like to be treated? They wouldn’t be having their own photos made if they were so set against their faces being shared. The names under the photo are nearly impossible to read and unless you know the folks the speaking list doesn’t tell who is who! Meant for those in the fellowship.
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Post by joanna on Oct 2, 2019 23:16:27 GMT -5
sharingtheriches . I have just clicked on that above image and can read the names and therefore match these with the person. Think you may need some new Unless there is something i am missing here, the lack of respect for a person's privacy just comes across as at least disrespectful, especially if the individual who shared the image has chosen to operate under the cloak of anonymity.
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Post by sharingtheriches on Oct 3, 2019 0:38:07 GMT -5
sharingtheriches . I have just clicked on that above image and can read the names and therefore match these with the person. Think you may need some new Unless there is something i am missing here, the lack of respect for a person's privacy just comes across as at least disrespectful, especially if the individual who shared the image has chosen to operate under the cloak of anonymity. Could be on computer they ARE clearer but in iPhone it’s almost illegible. And no don’t need new glasses! They pretty well know or should that their pictures end up on public web sites these days
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Post by sharingtheriches on Oct 3, 2019 0:40:06 GMT -5
They wouldn’t be having their own photos made if they were so set against their faces being shared. The names under the photo are nearly impossible to read and unless you know the folks the speaking list doesn’t tell who is who! Meant for those in the fellowship. There’s people in the fellowship on TMB
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Post by speak on Oct 3, 2019 3:05:47 GMT -5
Meant for those in the fellowship. There’s people in the fellowship on TMB You know what I mean.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2019 3:24:17 GMT -5
There should be a notation on the speaking list like,
This Speaking List is Confidential, and Top Secret. Information should be protected and not shared with the enemy. Do not post on Social Media. Please place in shredder before leaving Convention Ground.
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Post by xna on Oct 3, 2019 13:36:27 GMT -5
Get off of TMB Do you ever wonder if publishing images and the associated identities may be against the individual's wishes. You comment under a pseudonym so it presents that you prefer to keep your ID under wraps. Treat others as you would like to be treated? They are definitely not with permission. Some are from a place where they are asked not to be shared on other sites and then there comes the criticism. Perhaps theses preachers should take their picture under a really large "bushel” basket if they want to keep it secret and stay biblical.
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Post by speak on Oct 3, 2019 14:35:08 GMT -5
They are definitely not with permission. Some are from a place where they are asked not to be shared on other sites and then there comes the criticism. Perhaps theses preachers should take their picture under a really large "bushel” basket if they want to keep it secret and stay biblical. Why should they? I don't see your picture splashed on here by someone else.
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Post by speak on Oct 3, 2019 14:38:26 GMT -5
There should be a notation on the speaking list like, This Speaking List is Confidential, and Top Secret. Information should be protected and not shared with the enemy. Do not post on Social Media. Please place in shredder before leaving Convention Ground. I think this would a fair indication of what is expected don't you? To all my dear friends old and new in this group. Please ask permission before publicly sharing anything posted on this page. (Especially Photos)
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Post by mountain on Oct 3, 2019 15:12:38 GMT -5
In private matters the privacy and identity of individuals should be strictly observed unless expressed consent has been given to the contrary. In public matters, like CSA offenders etc., identities can be disclosed if appropriate to do so and at an appropriate time.
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Post by xna on Oct 3, 2019 15:31:26 GMT -5
Perhaps theses preachers should take their picture under a really large "bushel” basket if they want to keep it secret and stay biblical. Why should they? I don't see your picture splashed on here by someone else. They chose to preach, I didn’t. Have they stopped preaching to the public? Preaching is public act. How can you hide and preach at the same time? .
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Post by speak on Oct 3, 2019 16:06:47 GMT -5
Why should they? I don't see your picture splashed on here by someone else. They chose to preach, I didn’t. Have they stopped preaching to the public? Preaching is public act. How can you hide and preach at the same time? . They didn't choose for the pictures of them to be ridiculed by you.
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Post by xna on Oct 3, 2019 16:22:17 GMT -5
They chose to preach, I didn’t. Have they stopped preaching to the public? Preaching is public act. How can you hide and preach at the same time? . They didn't choose for the pictures of them to be ridiculed by you. I’m only pointing out the women’s choice of a period dress stands out and is out of place with modernity. How they are dressed in this photo is the same as they dress in public. The women’s dress in the photo is a deliberate choice to draw attention. If they don’t want their dress to stand out, it’s their choice. Lucky for the men, fashion changes slower. I see it as the same a Muslim women wearing a long black dress with a hood in the summer. They are trying to make a statement. The irony is if a young girl came to one of the meeting wearing torn blue jeans and purple hair they would condemn her for showing off. It’s all silly religious customers and traditions designed to control women.
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Post by mountain on Oct 3, 2019 16:33:23 GMT -5
They didn't choose for the pictures of them to be ridiculed by you. I’m only pointing out the women’s choice of a period dress stands out and is out of place with modernity. How they are dressed in this photo is the same as they dress in public. The women’s dress in the photo is a deliberate choice to draw attention. If they don’t want their dress to stand out, it’s their choice. Lucky for the men, fashion changes slower. It is true their dress sense is behind the times, or is an attempt at modesty, However, it is not a deliberate choice to draw attention. Rather, the opposite.
I see it as the same a Muslim women wearing a long black dress with a hood in the summer. They are trying to make a statement. A statement is certainly made, but that is not the intention. Their intention and attention are two different things. They are pursuing modesty, but it is a personal choice, not a public advertisement. The irony is if a young girl came to one of the meeting wearing torn blue jeans and purple hair they would condemn her for showing off. It is true that if someone turned up at a meeting (not a Gospel meeting) dressed as you state, then they would be ousted quicker than an involuntary bowel movement. Such attire and hair colouring is disrespectful to a gathering of any church.
It’s all silly religious customers and traditions designed to control women.
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Post by Get off of TMB on Oct 3, 2019 16:55:04 GMT -5
I don't respect Joanna enough to give a rip about what she says. I hope she never brags on something I say because that would REALLY upset me. And scare me! As long as she is criticizing something I am doing, I am very happy. The best compliment I can ever have.
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Post by speak on Oct 3, 2019 17:59:37 GMT -5
I don't respect Joanna enough to give a rip about what she says. I hope she never brags on something I say because that would REALLY upset me. And scare me! As long as she is criticizing something I am doing, I am very happy. The best compliment I can ever have. Strange attitude for a christian to have, what about the other cheek?
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Post by joanna on Oct 3, 2019 18:06:46 GMT -5
xna . Posting on this board is more of a "public act" than the workers style of preaching. Yet you and others, including Gill, insure your identity is not revealed. That is our right but it comes across as inconsistent if we then consider it OK to post & reveal the identities of people who have not had the opportunity to consent to this. Surely it is just basic etiquette and respect to resist doing this unless consent is provided. However i am probably expecting too much from Gill in that area given his/her latest outburst
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Post by xna on Oct 3, 2019 18:20:33 GMT -5
xna . Posting on this board is more of a "public act" than the workers style of preaching. Yet you and others, including Gill, insure your identity is not revealed. That is our right but it comes across as inconsistent if we then consider it OK to post & reveal the identities of people who have not had the opportunity to consent to this. Surely it is just basic etiquette and respect to resist doing this unless consent is provided. However i am probably expecting too much from Gill in that area given his/her latest outburst I only gave my impression on the picture that was posted. BTW 1 The board rules say you are not suppose to post anyone’s name, but in fact I don’t see that rule being inforced. BTW 2 A preacher is classified as “Limited-Purpose Public Figure” and as such has different rights and protecting, in these areas.
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Post by joanna on Oct 3, 2019 18:30:59 GMT -5
xna . and i agree with your opinion on the dress style however i have qualms about the sharing of images without permission. The below linked article provides an interesting insight and mentions that photos taken in a "public place" can reasonably be shared. Convention grounds are not a "public place" so it impresses that sharing images of workers, without first having obtained their permission, on a forum or website is "violating privacy". How To Use Images Of Real People Without Violating PrivacyWriters should be nervous when incorporating images showing identifiable people in their blogs, books, or social media postings. Violating privacy and publicity rights is a potentially costly mistake.However Gill and others who share these images are probably gambling that the 2x2's will not take legal action.
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Post by xna on Oct 3, 2019 19:09:09 GMT -5
A statement is certainly made, but that is not the intention. Their intention and attention are two different things. They are pursuing modesty, but it is a personal choice, not a public advertisement. If their fashion was truly a personal choice I think you would see much more variation in their dress, and not the conformist look. I believe their real intention is to go for a certain old fashion look, as they all want to fit in with the current group fashion look. I remember when the women all dispensed with the black stocking and high laced up shoes. Many thought going without them was immodest. Modesty is decided by the viewer. What is perceived as modest is time and culture dependent . For example, if an Indian women dressed modesty in the USA I would probably see it as an elaborate dress. If their aim is NOT to draw attention, they need to turn up the fashion clock a few generations. They can dress however they want, I’m just giving some feedback on how I see a little hypocrisy in what you say they intend, and how it is received.
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