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Post by sharingtheriches on Jan 28, 2020 21:57:45 GMT -5
Wrong, - in the past until today's better pre-natal care, women died in childbirth in near equal numbers as men did in war. My guess is that a man having more than one wife was a 'rule' made for men by men. You knows there’s a verse where 7 women come to one man and ask to be called by his name, but they’d be responsible d for their own upkeep!
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Jan 28, 2020 22:03:13 GMT -5
Suzan Mazur, an independent journalist and author of Darwin Overthrown: Hello Mechanobiology, takes aim at the outdated Darwinism of the College Board university preparation system: At Oscillations, she notes that the content of its biology course and exam framework devotes 24 pages or 22% to Darwinian natural selection and describes it in the “Essential Knowledge” section as “a major mechanism of evolution.” The College Board, she reports, explicitly says that: “The principles of natural selection and its components appear throughout the course.” She sees this as a “catastrophe” (Suzan Mazur, “College Board & The Natural Selection Racket” at Oscillations) because “the evolution paradigm has shifted” and – following Eugene Koonin – natural selection is not taken seriously any more as an explain-all.
Eugene Koonin said nothing of the kind!
It is false and just one more example of "creationists" taking material out of context in order to try make it appear scientists agree with their own notions!
It is such deception that makes them completely unreliable and don't deserve to paid any attention to at all!
If the must believe in a god for their own need for comfort, -fine! But try to mix their religious ideas into "science."
It's a sign of desperation.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Jan 28, 2020 22:08:14 GMT -5
I believe there were two earth populations. It hints at it in Genesis 1, it says that a God created the earth. Then it says he saw it was null and void. There’s a time lapse between the first earth creation and God recreating mankind. There was a cosmic happening to cause the destruction of the earth’s surface and whatever or who ever was in the earth. Then the earth was without form and void. No life or shapes to it. Thus God did his creation we read about in Genesis. The bad part was he couldn’t or didn’t destroy Satan with whatever happened. But as Satan had been a leading angel of light and sing, God had a soft spot for him, Rev 12:7-9 tell us there was a major wars in heaven in our Solar system among the 12 planets. That is why many of these planets are so scared and unhabitable.Two planets collided and became asteroid belt/Zillion pieces of tiny rocks. Venus is the Godhead lives... Satan and 1/3 of fallen angels declare WAR against God and His Holy angels. hahaha, can you tell me how the pieces that became asteroids moved to the asteroid belt?
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Post by Annan on Jan 28, 2020 22:37:11 GMT -5
Well I never was good at just trusting and believing based on faith. It's really not a choice.** The word of God teaches WITHOUT FAITH it impossible to please and KNOW God. With FAITH you see, believe and understand the impossible. Exactly, Snow. You can't flip a switch and have faith. And you can't believe anything 110%, Nathan. It's not possible.
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Post by BobWilliston on Jan 28, 2020 22:56:30 GMT -5
Someone needs to write some novels. I’ve thought about it! Thinking about doing one on pestilence. 😉 Real pestilence, or religious pestilence?
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Post by sharingtheriches on Jan 29, 2020 1:02:43 GMT -5
I’ve thought about it! Thinking about doing one on pestilence. 😉 Real pestilence, or religious pestilence? Real insect pestilence!
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Post by sharingtheriches on Jan 29, 2020 1:03:51 GMT -5
** The word of God teaches WITHOUT FAITH it impossible to please and KNOW God. With FAITH you see, believe and understand the impossible. Exactly, Snow. You can't flip a switch and have faith. And you can't believe anything 110%, Nathan. It's not possible. Nathan, forgets that faith is a gift from God as well.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2020 1:04:29 GMT -5
** The word of God teaches WITHOUT FAITH it impossible to please and KNOW God. With FAITH you see, believe and understand the impossible. And you can't believe anything 110%, Nathan. It's not possible. thats a figure of speech, you've heard of that before haven't you?
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Post by benar on Jan 29, 2020 2:19:12 GMT -5
Jesus said I am come to give you ETERNAL LIFE and MORE abundantly. He doesn't come to kill and destroy like Satan. Really, Nathan? This is exactly the sort of thing snow was referring to: Attachment Deleted
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Post by BobWilliston on Jan 29, 2020 3:03:51 GMT -5
Real pestilence, or religious pestilence? Real insect pestilence! Kind of like insects that take over and kill people?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2020 3:56:42 GMT -5
Jesus said I am come to give you ETERNAL LIFE and MORE abundantly. He doesn't come to kill and destroy like Satan. Really, Nathan? This is exactly the sort of thing snow was referring to: thats not really what luke 12:49 is saying...yes there will be fire(tribulation/tests) but it doesn't say he wishes it were already burning...
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Post by benar on Jan 29, 2020 5:51:22 GMT -5
Really, Nathan? This is exactly the sort of thing snow was referring to: thats not really what luke 12:49 is saying...yes there will be fire(tribulation/tests) but it doesn't say he wishes it were already burning... That's not true, Wally. Every single version of the Bible listed here (all 28 of them) says he wishes it were already burning/kindled/started/on fire/ablaze How do you reconcile a (supposedly) omnibenevolent god with the verse above?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2020 6:05:28 GMT -5
thats not really what luke 12:49 is saying...yes there will be fire(tribulation/tests) but it doesn't say he wishes it were already burning... That's not true, Wally. Every single version of the Bible listed here (all 28 of them) says he wishes it were already burning/kindled/started/on fire/ablaze How do you reconcile a (supposedly) omnibenevolent god with the verse above? Luk 12:49 I am come to send fire on the earth; and what will I, if it be already kindled? please tell me where you see it saying that he wishes it was already burning...
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Post by nathan on Jan 29, 2020 8:06:48 GMT -5
Jesus said I am come to give you ETERNAL LIFE and MORE abundantly. He doesn't come to kill and destroy like Satan. Really, Nathan? This is exactly the sort of thing snow was referring to: Christ came down from heaven to SAVE the SINNERS (Adam, Eve, Noah, Abraham, Moses, king David and etc.. and those who are born again, who have REPENTED of their sins. The time is coming, when Christ and God the Father will destroy the SINNERS who have NOT repented of their sins. In the Garden of Eden God told Adam and Eve NOT to partake the forbidden fruit IF they did they shall sure DIE/naturally and spiritually. Well, they disobeyed God and they and their children MUST DIE both deaths. Salvation is a gift from Christ/God Jesus to mankind he died for our sins on Calvary's Cross, he asked us to accept His gift of Eternal life and that is to believe Him as our Redeemer and Savior.
The apostles and Jesus foretold the time is coming when God will destroy the Old earth and the UNREPENTED sinners on earth who refused Christ/God Jesus gift of Salvation because of their sins.
II Peter2: 8-13 8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat? Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.
Jude 10-19 11 Woe unto them! for they have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the gainsaying of Core. These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots; Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever.
And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints, To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him. These are murmurers, complainers, walking after their own lusts; and their mouth speaketh great swelling words, having men's persons in admiration because of advantage. But, beloved, remember ye the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ;
~~ We see and read the unbelievers, murmurers and complainers against Christ and God on TMB constantly you will get your due one of these days. Please, REPENT and accept Christ/God your Redeemer and Savior, before it too late.
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Post by Annan on Jan 29, 2020 8:07:22 GMT -5
Exactly, Snow. You can't flip a switch and have faith. And you can't believe anything 110%, Nathan. It's not possible. Nathan, forgets that faith is a gift from God as well. So why didn't your god give me faith?
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Post by nathan on Jan 29, 2020 8:23:12 GMT -5
Nathan, forgets that faith is a gift from God as well. So why didn't your god give me faith? Weren't you a believer/professing at one time? Faith is to BELIEVE in Jesus Christ as your Savior. Faith is your part and that is to BELIEVE in Christ/God is your Redeemer and SAVIOR! Jesus said in John 3:14-21 14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God. ~~ WHY aren't you come to the LIGHT believe in Jesus Christ as your Savior? It is because you love darkness more than Light/Christ. What is holding you back? and why did you give up your Faith.
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Post by sharingtheriches on Jan 29, 2020 11:02:39 GMT -5
Nathan, forgets that faith is a gift from God as well. So why didn't your god give me faith? Did you ask for faith?
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Post by sharingtheriches on Jan 29, 2020 11:03:52 GMT -5
Kind of like insects that take over and kill people? Or at least make them wish they were dead.
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Post by sharingtheriches on Jan 29, 2020 11:21:51 GMT -5
So why didn't your god give me faith? Weren't you a believer/professing at one time? Faith is to BELIEVE in Jesus Christ as your Savior. Faith is your part and that is to BELIEVE in Christ/God is your Redeemer and SAVIOR! Jesus said in John 3:14-21 14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God. ~~ WHY aren't you come to the LIGHT believe in Jesus Christ as your Savior? It is because you love darkness more than Light/Christ. What is holding you back? and why did you give up your Faith.
Ephesians 2:8. For by grace ye are saved THROUGH FAITH; and THAT(faith) is not of yourselves: IT(faith) IS THE GIFT OF GOD: NOT OF WORKS, lest any man should boast. Reference John 6:44,65. No man can come to me, EXCEPT THE FATHER DRAW HIM(faith is part of the drawing) and I will raise him up at the last day.. vs. 65. And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father. John 6:28-29. Then they(his disciples) said unto him, What shall we do that we might do the works of God? Jesus answered and said, This is the work of God that ye believe in him whom he hath sent. Mark 9:23-24. Jesus said unto him(father of son), If thou canst believe, all things are possible to him that believeth. And straightway the father CRIED OUT, and said with tears, Lord, I believe; HELP THOU MINE UNBELIEF. Though faith is a gift of God, sometimes we think we believe but there are niggling doubts creeping in; THEN IS THE TIME TO CRY OUT IN DESPERATION “Lord, help thou mine unbelief.”
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Post by sharingtheriches on Jan 29, 2020 11:35:11 GMT -5
thats not really what luke 12:49 is saying...yes there will be fire(tribulation/tests) but it doesn't say he wishes it were already burning... That's not true, Wally. Every single version of the Bible listed here (all 28 of them) says he wishes it were already burning/kindled/started/on fire/ablaze How do you reconcile a (supposedly) omnibenevolent god with the verse above? As those are various translations of the same verse, it’s not right to say Jesus said it 28 times. If one would follow the reference to Acts 2:2-3 , you would have gained insight as to that “fire”. It’s the baptism of the Holy Spirit. And if you’d ever experienced the baptism by the Holy Spirit you’d understood what like a fire it means. It’s a refining fire. A fire destroying the chaff from the wheat. Etc. So as Jesus saying he wished it already burning is him saying it’d be mire pleasant for him to do what he came for.
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Post by Annan on Jan 29, 2020 12:39:07 GMT -5
So why didn't your god give me faith? Weren't you a believer/professing at one time?
WHY aren't you come to the LIGHT believe in Jesus Christ as your Savior? It is because you love darkness more than Light/Christ. What is holding you back? and why did you give up your Faith.
My dad was a 2x2 and so I was raised in the 2x2 cult. I was never a believer as the cult god and the cult ways/rules never made sense to me. There was no freedom to allow the cult god to lead when the workers were always policing the cult believers. The cult is worker worship rather than god worship. I gave up nothing. As to loving darkness... rather amusing, Nathan, I love science and the reality of the world around me. Please give up your fantasy, Nathan. I would hate to see you end up in a loony bin lost and alone and abandoned by those that know the truth.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Jan 29, 2020 12:45:40 GMT -5
Weren't you a believer/professing at one time?
WHY aren't you come to the LIGHT believe in Jesus Christ as your Savior? It is because you love darkness more than Light/Christ. What is holding you back? and why did you give up your Faith.
My dad was a 2x2 and so I was raised in the 2x2 cult. I was never a believer as the cult god and the cult ways/rules never made sense to me. There was no freedom to allow the cult god to lead when the workers were always policing the cult believers. The cult is worker worship rather than god worship. I gave up nothing. As to loving darkness... rather amusing, Nathan, I love science and the reality of the world around me. Please give up your fantasy, Nathan. I would hate to see you end up in a loony bin lost and alone and abandoned by those that know the truth. Loony bins have evolved from the days of great big keys to great big doors and great big bars on the tiny windows. Today's loony bins are much more open. They have spires and organs and hard seats. Some of them are less assuming and are just a plain house in a plain street. The patients come and go. Usually about 10am on a Sunday morning. Unfortunately for the loonies the medical staff come from their ranks and consequently no treatment is available.
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Post by Annan on Jan 29, 2020 12:47:23 GMT -5
Loony bins have evolved from the days of great big keys to great big doors and great big bars on the tiny windows. Today's loony bins are much more open. They have spires and organs and hard seats. Some of them are less assuming and are just a plain house in a plain street. The patients come and go. Usually about 10am on a Sunday morning. Unfortunately for the loonies the medical staff come from their ranks and consequently no treatment is available. HYSTERICAL!!!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2020 12:51:51 GMT -5
Nathan, forgets that faith is a gift from God as well. So why didn't your god give me faith? he did at one point in your life then you rejected it...your problem not his...
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Post by snow on Jan 29, 2020 14:00:51 GMT -5
So why didn't your god give me faith? he did at one point in your life then you rejected it...your problem not his... You wish. In fact I would say you're really hoping that what you wish is true. But, it's not. It takes a different kind of mind to not need to question. I don't have that kind of mind. Who made me? According to you, God.
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Post by rational on Jan 29, 2020 16:40:09 GMT -5
he did at one point in your life then you rejected it...your problem not his... You wish. In fact I would say you're really hoping that what you wish is true. But, it's not. It takes a different kind of mind to not need to question. I don't have that kind of mind. Who made me? According to you, God. I'm thankful god made me an atheist.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2020 16:42:44 GMT -5
You wish. In fact I would say you're really hoping that what you wish is true. But, it's not. It takes a different kind of mind to not need to question. I don't have that kind of mind. Who made me? According to you, God. I'm thankful god made me an atheist.
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Post by nathan on Jan 29, 2020 17:19:08 GMT -5
he did at one point in your life then you rejected it...your problem not his... You wish. In fact I would say you're really hoping that what you wish is true. But, it's not. It takes a different kind of mind to not need to question. I don't have that kind of mind. Who made me? According to you, God. *** God made all of us in His image to live forever/immortals beings g But Eve and Adam decision to follow Satan instead to be with Christ/the TREE of LIFE. Therefore, ALL of their children became mortal beings and must face the Second earth ourselves. Christ/God died the Second death for us on Calvary. He paid the the ransom price with his own death to God the Father for our sins. ALL Christ asked of us to believe Him as our Redeemer/Savior. We didn't have a choice to be born into this world but we have a choice to choose where we want to live for etrnity either in heaven with our Creator and Savior in the New earth and heaven or with Satan in the lake of fire for all etrnity. The choice is up to each person.
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