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Post by hi5 on Nov 21, 2005 18:49:16 GMT -5
A worker said that Sarah was a beautiful woman but she didn't "flaunt her beauty!" So women should look plain in order to be an example of humility?
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Post by Bridge on Nov 21, 2005 20:45:45 GMT -5
Give me a break. What ever happened to empowerment? Sometimes some very sick people are put in charge. Leave them women alone.
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Post by Thumper on Nov 21, 2005 21:15:44 GMT -5
Yep, there is nothing more beautiful than a sour-puss woman with frumpy clothes. Yes there are some, but we do have some pretty women if they would just show it.
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Post by women and men on Nov 21, 2005 22:28:50 GMT -5
If women are to dress as natural as possible, they better stop wearing scented perfumes, lotions, perfumes and hairspray. These are not natural items. I don't recall any of these being used in the Bible.
Guys better stop shaving, too. Did Jesus shave?
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Post by firstborn on Nov 21, 2005 22:59:32 GMT -5
woman and men. I don't recall any of these being used in the bible.... Better read again.
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Post by razorsavior on Nov 21, 2005 23:14:26 GMT -5
Jesus shaved?
where and when?
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Post by flaunting beauty on Nov 21, 2005 23:15:18 GMT -5
First of all, I'm pretty sure this thread was started as bait......but I'm game.....
Just cuz a worker says "x" or says "z" doesn't mean we can conclude that worker said x+z = "y".
But at any rate, I was raised not to flaunt your physical beauty and sometimes that can backfire on your mother...[yeouza]; I figure it's better to enhance your natural beauty rather than flaunt it; be tasteful. You are more likely to pleasing to be around and look upon. Others may enjoy your presense more if you take a bath once in awhile and comb your hair; keep it lice free and brush your teeth now and then.
"But let NOT your adorning be the outward adorning........
Rather the inward adorning of a meek and quiet spirit......"
Didn't Paul encourage something like that? And so while we women may spend lots of money and time on our looks...........in the meantime, God is seeing everything inside of us. How much time AND/OR MONEY do we spend on enhancing the inside?
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Post by prayhard on Nov 21, 2005 23:28:18 GMT -5
How much time and money is spent on those houses with big living rooms and those fancy cars of the "friends?"
Gimme a break.
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Post by evil on Nov 22, 2005 3:58:59 GMT -5
How much time and money is spent on those houses with big living rooms and those fancy cars of the "friends?" Gimme a break. Jelousy is an evil Pointing the finger at others is an evil
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2005 10:27:06 GMT -5
There is a beauty in everyone -- God has given it, and none need to be ashamed.
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Post by plainjane on Nov 22, 2005 10:29:13 GMT -5
Jealousy is not evil. It's a normal human emotion that most, if not all people have from time to time. Some people are jealous of others their whole lives. It's born from a feeling of not being good enough---not being good enough to have or be what someone else has or is. If it is not personally addressed by the individual experiencing it, that person will most often project it onto another person and harshly judge them. (sort of like this last guest just did). Jealousy will not go away unless or until a person becomes aware of it in themselves. And then that is just the first step to eliminating it from your life. The hard work comes in raising one's feelings of self worth. Jane Jane
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Post by happy on Nov 22, 2005 10:59:09 GMT -5
God sees the inside and I want that to be beautiful first. My husband sees the outside and I want to make that as attractive to him as possible. I carry his name and I really would like his attention to stay here at home. So far, we've both accomplished this....neat appearance, a little "foo-foo" and big smiles work wonders. Oh...and of course prayer to keep it all together forever.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2005 11:54:06 GMT -5
God sees the inside and I want that to be beautiful first. My husband sees the outside and I want to make that as attractive to him as possible. I carry his name and I really would like his attention to stay here at home. So far, we've both accomplished this....neat appearance, a little "foo-foo" and big smiles work wonders. Oh...and of course prayer to keep it all together forever. Hi Happy -- It wouldn't surprize me if your husband was more interested in your inward beauty than in the outward side -- Your concern for his likes or dislikes in appearance, are likely more highly valued than the appearance itself. Hows that for trying to be an expert on someone that I have never even met? ?
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Post by happy on Nov 22, 2005 12:03:52 GMT -5
Well Edgar...you have seen my ugly side, I am sure of that! Ha!
I appreciate what you are saying. I love my hubby even when he is covered in mud or worse. But when he dresses up and smells good...hubba hubba! He is quite a hottie, even if he is my "old man". I'm glad I'm still worth the effort. He is worth my efforts as well.
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Post by Doesnt say on Nov 22, 2005 12:08:33 GMT -5
If women are to dress as natural as possible, they better stop wearing scented perfumes, lotions, perfumes and hairspray. These are not natural items. I don't recall any of these being used in the Bible. Guys better stop shaving, too. Did Jesus shave? It doesn't say. But there is no record of defecation of urination either - are you holding? ?
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Post by flaunting beauty on Nov 22, 2005 13:01:29 GMT -5
How much time and money is spent on those houses with big living rooms and those fancy cars of the "friends?" Gimme a break. But you did not answer my question; and instead retorted/deflected back with the continual criticism of the F&W and their many, many human shortcomings{?}.
I have encountered the cliche "gimme a break" many times in my life; in fact have used it myself............it usually comes when someone doesn't want to answer or address the question asked or doesn't have the answer or is just plain exsasperated about something...........you are entitled to that, but it makes my inquiry no less valid.
And so.........how much time and/or money to we spend on the enhancement of our inside? Our world is very superficial..........we spend a lot of time enhancing that which will eventually waste away and die. It's a fact. But have you ever noticed that no matter how much time and effort is placed upon the outside, if the inside is not pleasing, it makes the outside displeasing also. It's like meeting a really good looking person and you find out what a jerk they are...........they are not so good looking afterall............
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Post by ex-teenager on Nov 22, 2005 13:32:44 GMT -5
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Post by botany on Nov 22, 2005 13:33:08 GMT -5
It's great. If this god created us, then he created the beautiful women (and men). But then he turns around and says "don't show what I gave you"? Or, maybe it's the ugly workers saying that. teehee andy
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Post by do on Nov 22, 2005 15:06:17 GMT -5
It's great. If this god created us, then he created the beautiful women (and men). But then he turns around and says "don't show what I gave you"? Or, maybe it's the ugly workers saying that. teehee andy do you walk around naked all day? or do you walk around in the cloths you were created in? your comments do show your ignorence in what God is really concerned about. I wonder do you know how grace is shown? would you consider it is by outward appreance?
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Post by prayhard on Nov 22, 2005 16:08:17 GMT -5
Where does it say mascara, blush, eyeshadow and lipstick are wrong?
Moot point, there.
IT DOESN'T SAY.
I'm not holding, and I'm still applying the above stated items....
I'm still going to heaven, too...........
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Post by Cherie on Nov 22, 2005 16:11:05 GMT -5
In looking at some old worker photos, I noticed that the sister workers appeared to downplay their bosom. Possibly, they made a deliberate effort to flatten them as much as possible? Does anyone know if this was a deliberate goal/intent of sister workers, in the 1930-40's?? Or did all the profesing women do this? Or all females of that day?? [It might be just be that my photos aren't a good representative sample??] For instance, look at the women shown on ALL the Black Stocking photos pages in the TTT Photo Gallery at: home.earthlink.net/%7Etruth222/PhotoGal-15.html#PHOTO
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Post by plainjane on Nov 22, 2005 16:40:34 GMT -5
Cherie, I knew one professing woman who was my mother's age---born in 1920's-- long gone now. She used to tell us younger women that when she was pregnant with twins and her bosoms got very large (her teminology), the sister workers helped her bind them so they didn't look so big. At least they did this at convention time. I got the idea from her that sister workers in her field did the same....
In fact as a child I honestly thought one of the prerequisites of being a sister worker was to be small on the top. Silly impressions kids get....
Jane
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Post by help please on Nov 22, 2005 16:49:10 GMT -5
A worker said that Sarah was a beautiful woman but she didn't "flaunt her beauty!" So women should look plain in order to be an example of humility? I'm trying to find that scripture - can you tell me the place where the Bible says that Sarah didn't flaunt her beauty. I am guessing that the worker was inferring and adding his/her twist to the scripture.
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Post by food for thought on Nov 22, 2005 16:52:47 GMT -5
A really beautiful woman doesn't have to flaunt her beauty. Nor can she cover it up very well............
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2005 16:53:32 GMT -5
Must we pick apart every little thing a worker says?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2005 18:04:04 GMT -5
Didn't Paul encourage something like that? !@@ I believe Peter may have wrote that in his epistle. Correct me if I am the one who is wrong.
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Post by mrleo unplugged on Nov 22, 2005 18:05:16 GMT -5
I don't know..."normal" women's fashions of the early 30s in general didn't emphasize the bust. The waistline rose and the hemline dropped, but everything was pretty streamlined (but with lovely Art Deco accents, of course).
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Post by Scarlet on Nov 22, 2005 18:16:51 GMT -5
Must we pick apart every little thing a worker says? Frankly my dear, yes, we must. We are under no compulsion to believe what any workers says. Show it to me in the scripture, I'll read it and then we all will be on equal footing and can discuss this rationally.
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