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Post by nathan on Nov 15, 2018 18:58:32 GMT -5
Nathan, the World is not a battlefield, it is only that if you make it so. The 2x2 attitude to life is so negative, and for those of us that have been liberated we have had a most happy, rewarding life. It is out there but you will never find it as a 2x2, you will always be in torment. This earth is Satan's kingdom, therefore is a BATTLEFIELD for us. He has the POWER over our Souls, without the help of Christ who came down from heaven and lived in the person Jesus to die for our sins, then there is NO HOPE for us to get OUT of HELL= Lake of fire.
I came out from the HELL hole on earth, believe me this earth is a WAR ZONE! You see God and Satan with his 1/3 fallen angels have been fighting the WAR in the heavens/in the Universe, trillions galaxies for billions of years or longer... and it has continued on the earth the last 6000 years.
God created Adam, Eve and his human children to be His heavenly Warriors children to defeat Satan, and 1/3 fallen angels but He deceived them in the Garden of Eden and they lost that God's image, Likeness and POWER! Christ came down from heaven to RESTORE the Image and Likeness of the Godhead to us through His death on Calvary's Cross. That was why Jesus said to Nicodemus, "Ye MUST be BORN again!"
This earth is a Spiritual WAR Zone and a Battlefield and TRILLIONS souls are at stakes! Christ/God the Son KNEW what he was facing when he incarnated as a man/Jesus. Satan used King Herod to kill the child Jesus, and Satan came and tempted him to give up His mission to die for our sins... So, Jesus would join force with him and 1/3 of the fallen angels to fight against God the Father and the Holy Spirit.
Both God and Satan are recruiting mighty Warriors to be on their sides for the FINAL battle of Armageddon between Christ and Satan's army (Rev. 16: 13-16; 19:19-21; 20: 7-15). SO! which side do you want to be on? Christ or Satan? There is no neutral ground in this spiritual WARS. We are either with Christ or against Him.
Jude 14-15 It was also about these that Enoch, the seventh from Adam, prophesied, saying, “Behold, the Lord comes with ten thousands of his holy ones, to execute judgment on all and to convict all the ungodly of all their deeds of ungodliness that they have committed in such an ungodly way, and of all the harsh things that ungodly sinners have spoken against him.”
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Post by withlove on Nov 15, 2018 19:17:13 GMT -5
I hadn't either until I was actually typing "young woman!"
It just indicates that it is only the young woman & how she would have to dress to go to a prom that matter! It seems all of us along with all of the others who have ever been in the *TRUTH* just automatically think in the same terms.Once again it is so much about how professing women have to dress.
Can anyone tell us of anything at all about how young professing men have to dress? Well cause guys are allowed to cut their hair dmg! Fringes are legal for them. But if a girl has a fringe AND she wants to attend the prom, well for sure domestic violence is in her future. Fear mongering 101. Ha! Wait--are the 18 inches about skirt or hair length? Either way, who was measuring to get a specific number?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2018 19:18:03 GMT -5
Nathan you sure come up some bizarre statements. I hope they didn't teach you that crazy stuff when you were a Worker. Those thought are not good physiologically, and stop you enjoying this wonderful life that we have. As a 2x2 we had to suffer doom and gloom all the time, thank goodness we were able to leave and find a beautiful World.
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Post by withlove on Nov 15, 2018 19:19:08 GMT -5
I hadn't either until I was actually typing "young woman!"
It just indicates that it is only the young woman & how she would have to dress to go to a prom that matter! It seems all of us along with all of the others who have ever been in the *TRUTH* just automatically think in the same terms.Once again it is so much about how professing women have to dress.
Can anyone tell us of anything at all about how young professing men have to dress? Well cause guys are allowed to cut their hair dmg! Fringes are legal for them. But if a girl has a fringe AND she wants to attend the prom, well for sure domestic violence is in her future. Fear mongering 101. I'm proof that this worker is right. I had 'fringes' and I went to my grad dance. And I married a man that hit me and I was raped. I'm 100% sure all that happened because I cut my bangs and went to the prom. Aren't you? You mean I could have gotten away with fringes too?? I had similar consequences just from dancing.
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Post by snow on Nov 15, 2018 19:21:36 GMT -5
Well cause guys are allowed to cut their hair dmg! Fringes are legal for them. But if a girl has a fringe AND she wants to attend the prom, well for sure domestic violence is in her future. Fear mongering 101. Ha! Wait--are the 18 inches about skirt or hair length? Either way, who was measuring to get a specific number? LOL who knows. It all becomes so silly.
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Post by snow on Nov 15, 2018 19:24:22 GMT -5
Well cause guys are allowed to cut their hair dmg! Fringes are legal for them. But if a girl has a fringe AND she wants to attend the prom, well for sure domestic violence is in her future. Fear mongering 101. I'm proof that this worker is right. I had 'fringes' and I went to my grad dance. And I married a man that hit me and I was raped. I'm 100% sure all that happened because I cut my bangs and went to the prom. Aren't you? You mean I could have gotten away with fringes too?? I had similar consequences just from dancing.
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Post by nathan on Nov 15, 2018 19:26:56 GMT -5
Nathan you sure come up some bizarre statements. I hope they didn't teach you that crazy stuff when you were a Worker. Those thought are not good physiologically, and stop you enjoying this wonderful life that we have. As a 2x2 we had to suffer doom and gloom all the time, thank goodness we were able to leave and find a beautiful World. hahaha... It's ALL there in the Bible... If you had read the Bible you would KNOW about these things I shared in my posts. I showed you the verses in the Bible, didn't you read them? I guess NOT.
I am enjoying my life to the fullest these days. I share these thoughts with 1000s of my customers at work and they love it... To know why they were created, and where they are going after death, to a HEAVENLY place God has prepared for them.... MUCH to enjoy, see and experience... It's NOT going to be BORING! sitting on the clouds and playing the harps for all eternity.
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Post by withlove on Nov 15, 2018 19:30:56 GMT -5
"We felt comforted by the fact she said she did not want to do anything immoral and so we had to leave her in the hands of God."
Would have been nice if they'd done that earlier. Rather than telling her prom would give her detrimental appetites.
Maybe if she'd had a more balanced/healthy church system/doctrine/environment, she'd not have been attracted to the bad boy.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2018 19:38:27 GMT -5
"We felt comforted by the fact she said she did not want to do anything immoral and so we had to leave her in the hands of God." Would have been nice if they'd done that earlier. Rather than telling her prom would give her detrimental appetites. Maybe if she'd had a more balanced/healthy church system/doctrine/environment, she'd not have been attracted to the bad boy. if the watchman doesn't say something and someone loses out their blood is on his hands/head...
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Post by withlove on Nov 15, 2018 19:42:55 GMT -5
"We felt comforted by the fact she said she did not want to do anything immoral and so we had to leave her in the hands of God." Would have been nice if they'd done that earlier. Rather than telling her prom would give her detrimental appetites. Maybe if she'd had a more balanced/healthy church system/doctrine/environment, she'd not have been attracted to the bad boy. if the watchman doesn't say something and someone loses out their blood is on his hands/head... What if the watchman says the wrong thing and someone loses out?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2018 19:44:17 GMT -5
if the watchman doesn't say something and someone loses out their blood is on his hands/head... What if the watchman says the wrong thing and someone loses out? i'm sure the Lord will take care of that too...he is a just God right?
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Post by withlove on Nov 15, 2018 19:46:46 GMT -5
Also, we don't know the end of the story. I'm hoping that the restraining order worked and that the woman was able to be safe from the abuser (and all abusers). And that she never returned to that church. And her baby was never exposed to it. She might have developed strong boundaries and raised her child to think critically.
Maybe that worker realized he'd had warped vision and repented.
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Post by withlove on Nov 15, 2018 19:49:37 GMT -5
You mean I could have gotten away with fringes too?? I had similar consequences just from dancing. Snow, I'm so sorry if this was in any way offensive!! Was it?
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Post by snow on Nov 15, 2018 19:53:47 GMT -5
Snow, I'm so sorry if this was in any way offensive!! Was it? No not at all. I responding to your having a similar experience and feeling sad about it. The fact that the workers blame immaterial things on the bad things that happen to people would be funny if it wasn't so harmful. I find it so sad that they feel it's important to do this to young people. But no, in no way was what you said offensive.
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Post by withlove on Nov 15, 2018 20:13:28 GMT -5
Snow, I'm so sorry if this was in any way offensive!! Was it? No not at all. I responding to your having a similar experience and feeling sad about it. The fact that the workers blame immaterial things on the bad things that happen to people would be funny if it wasn't so harmful. I find it so sad that they feel it's important to do this to young people. But no, in no way was what you said offensive. Whew. Ok, glad it wasn't, and wish it wasn't sad news. I agree with you...am hoping this trend is reversing a bit? It seems like it might be, and then we hear of another example.
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Post by dmmichgood on Nov 16, 2018 6:17:21 GMT -5
Where?
The last line is not concerned about HER!
It just adds yet another burden on the young woman .
And as I was writing "young woman" I suddenly realized -in this whole story "young MAN" was never mentioned!
Don't any "young MEN" ever want to do to "proms" or other places similar?
The baby was born and the father was such a bad fellow that Mary had to have a court order to have him stay away. If any of you young people have thought of taking your own course, you may think of your family. this shows concern whether or not you accept it or not... Concerned? No. They were just re-enforcing their point, -the point being that she had left the truth .
Also By adding that line, "If any of you young people have thought of taking your own course, you may think of your family, -they just add to the burden of guilt on the young person because NOW they would also be hurting their family.
Just one more sermon to make people feel guilty. I have heard others much like it.
One argument is that doing a certain thing might not be so bad for you because you are strong enough that it wouldn't hurt you -but others less strong by seeing you doing it, - it might cause THEM to fail.
That both makes you feel good about yourself but guilty about hurting another, -so they still get what they want, control. That one is an especially neat maneuver! ""
I used to wonder how they had learned what buttons to push to get you to do that. But as I began to learn more about the dynamics behind maneuvering people, I realized that they didn't have to "learn" it. It just seems to come naturally with the program.
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Post by dmmichgood on Nov 16, 2018 6:26:48 GMT -5
I hadn't either until I was actually typing "young woman!"
It just indicates that it is only the young woman & how she would have to dress to go to a prom that matter! It seems all of us along with all of the others who have ever been in the *TRUTH* just automatically think in the same terms.Once again it is so much about how professing women have to dress.
Can anyone tell us of anything at all about how young professing men have to dress? Well cause guys are allowed to cut their hair dmg! Fringes are legal for them. But if a girl has a fringe AND she wants to attend the prom, well for sure domestic violence is in her future. Fear mongering 101. I'm proof that this worker is right. I had 'fringes' and I went to my grad dance. And I married a man that hit me and I was raped. I'm 100% sure all that happened because I cut my bangs and went to the prom. Aren't you? Oh, -my goodness, -yes! You must be right!
Because I went to my senior prom, but I didn't have "fringes" and I married a wonderful man and "lived happily ever after!"
So, there you go, -those "fringes" must be what did you in!
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Post by snow on Nov 16, 2018 16:36:29 GMT -5
Well cause guys are allowed to cut their hair dmg! Fringes are legal for them. But if a girl has a fringe AND she wants to attend the prom, well for sure domestic violence is in her future. Fear mongering 101. I'm proof that this worker is right. I had 'fringes' and I went to my grad dance. And I married a man that hit me and I was raped. I'm 100% sure all that happened because I cut my bangs and went to the prom. Aren't you? Oh, -my goodness, -yes! You must be right!
Because I went to my senior prom, but I didn't have "fringes" and I married a wonderful man and "lived happily ever after!"
So, there you go, -those "fringes" must be what did you in! LOL who knew!
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