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Post by magpie1 on Nov 5, 2018 15:37:53 GMT -5
Plus a few other important bits and pieces. Luke 22;35+ Then JESUS asked HIS Disciples. When I sent you out that time without purse,bag or shoes,did you lack anything? Not a thing;they answered. "BUT NOW"JESUS said,Whoever has a purse or bag take it;and whosoever has no sword must sell his coat and buy one. Ephesians 4:11/12, It was "HE" who gave gifts to mankind;"HE" appointed some to be Apostles,others to be Prophets,others to be Evangelists others to be "PASTORS and TEACHERS" (WHY?) HE did this to prepare all "GOD'S" people for the work of Christian service,in order to build up the"BODY OF CHRIST" (Church) 1 Corinthians,9;5/6, Haven't I the right to follow the example of the other Apostles,and the Lord's brothers and Peter,by taking a Christian wife with me on my travels. Or are Barnabas and I the only ones who have to work for a living? 1 Timothy 5:19+, Do not listen to an accusation against an Elder unless it is brought by two or more witnesses. Rebuke "PUBLICLY" all those who commit sins.so that the rest will be afraid. In the presence of GOD and of CHRIST JESUS and of the HOLY ANGELS I solemnly call upon "YOU" to "OBEY" these "INSTRUCTIONS" without showing any prejudice or favour to anyone in anything you do.Be in no hurry to lay hands(ordain)on someone to dedicate them to the "LORD'S"service.Take no part in the sins of others,keep yourself pure. (This would relate to rushing folk into the 2x2 ministries,knowing or unknowingly that they have a paedophile or other sexual inclination. Then the "SINS" of the Elders covering it up and ignoring the plight of the victims) Just beyond belief that such passages that are Scripture,some direct commands and gifts from "JESUS",can be ignored in preference for an unbiblicle "PREACHER ONLY" ministry. That also ignore the deity of Jesus and the Holy(God's) Spirit. No one could deny the above verses given us as fundamentaly important to the growth and survival of the Body of Christ the CHURCH. Magpie, PS Wally and Nathan please study,listen to others and cross reference the above before you go off the deep end,Thanks Bros'
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2018 17:31:55 GMT -5
Plus a few other important bits and pieces. Luke 22;35+ Then JESUS asked HIS Disciples. When I sent you out that time without purse,bag or shoes,did you lack anything? Not a thing;they answered. "BUT NOW"JESUS said,Whoever has a purse or bag take it;and whosoever has no sword must sell his coat and buy one. Ephesians 4:11/12, It was "HE" who gave gifts to mankind;"HE" appointed some to be Apostles,others to be Prophets,others to be Evangelists others to be "PASTORS and TEACHERS" (WHY?) HE did this to prepare all "GOD'S" people for the work of Christian service,in order to build up the"BODY OF CHRIST" (Church) 1 Corinthians,9;5/6, Haven't I the right to follow the example of the other Apostles,and the Lord's brothers and Peter,by taking a Christian wife with me on my travels. Or are Barnabas and I the only ones who have to work for a living? 1 Timothy 5:19+, Do not listen to an accusation against an Elder unless it is brought by two or more witnesses. Rebuke "PUBLICLY" all those who commit sins.so that the rest will be afraid. In the presence of GOD and of CHRIST JESUS and of the HOLY ANGELS I solemnly call upon "YOU" to "OBEY" these "INSTRUCTIONS" without showing any prejudice or favour to anyone in anything you do.Be in no hurry to lay hands(ordain)on someone to dedicate them to the "LORD'S"service.Take no part in the sins of others,keep yourself pure. (This would relate to rushing folk into the 2x2 ministries,knowing or unknowingly that they have a paedophile or other sexual inclination. Then the "SINS" of the Elders covering it up and ignoring the plight of the victims) Just beyond belief that such passages that are Scripture,some direct commands and gifts from "JESUS",can be ignored in preference for an unbiblicle "PREACHER ONLY" ministry. That also ignore the deity of Jesus and the Holy(God's) Spirit. No one could deny the above verses given us as fundamentaly important to the growth and survival of the Body of Christ the CHURCH. Magpie, PS Wally and Nathan please study,listen to others and cross reference the above before you go off the deep end,Thanks Bros' the only one that has gone off the deep end is you magpie your erratic rants prove that beyond a shadow of a doubt...but babble on as usual on your way to nowhere....
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Post by magpie1 on Nov 5, 2018 17:41:30 GMT -5
Don't judge it by "me" Wally? Those pieces of scripture are there for the betterment of our and the Body of Christ's (CHURCH)walk,life ans SERVICE... Forget me, comments on each piece of scripture as you would see them in relation to your personal and fellowships commitment to the Godhead. We don't have to agree,but these verses were not given us to be ignored or wasted,were they,or,not?? Magpie
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Post by nathan on Nov 5, 2018 20:00:18 GMT -5
Don't judge it by "me" Wally? Those pieces of scripture are there for the betterment of our and the Body of Christ's (CHURCH)walk,life ans SERVICE... Forget me, comments on each piece of scripture as you would see them in relation to your personal and fellowships commitment to the Godhead. We don't have to agree,but these verses were not given us to be ignored or wasted,were they,or,not?? Magpie You are keeping repeating the same thing over and over... You posted this and do you know what it means? or What Jesus was saying? Why, he said the way he did? 1) Magpie wrote: Luke 22;35+ Then JESUS asked HIS Disciples. When I sent you out that time without purse,bag or shoes,did you lack anything? Not a thing;they answered. "BUT NOW"JESUS said,Whoever has a purse or bag take it;and whosoever has no sword must sell his coat and buy one.
What was Paul trying to teach on these verses? Do you KNOW what Paul meant and does it apply to the 2x2 workers?
2) Ephesians 4:11/12, It was "HE" who gave gifts to mankind;"HE" appointed some to be Apostles,others to be Prophets,others to be Evangelists others to be "PASTORS and TEACHERS" (WHY?) HE did this to prepare all "GOD'S" people for the work of Christian service,in order to build up the"BODY OF CHRIST" (Church)
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Post by magpie1 on Nov 6, 2018 0:38:47 GMT -5
Nathan!!! Don't you read pieces of encouraging scripture over and over again.. As I mentioned to Wally the doubter,forget me a bit. Those various pieces of scripture I quoted above is what it is all about,not ME??? How would you or any member of the unFriendlies fit those "MOST" important scriptures into a Preacher only ministry. That is all I am asking as they are some from JESUS and some from PAUL,we were told as kids that we (2x2s) were a direct line from the Pauline teachings,weren't you?? Magpie .PS ,The Scriptures,not me is the focus here,I put in my bit,you over the years have never once properly agreed or disagreed on those first 3 scripture pieces ,but,you say that you have,but I've never once seen it,you have not really have you??. You as an exMinister of Irvinism are taught very early to answer evasively,weren't you?? Explain then why,PREACHER only is biblical..SIMPLE?
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Post by magpie1 on Nov 6, 2018 0:41:58 GMT -5
By the way Nathan, Paul in those Ephesian verses,he said "HE" yes "HE" Jesus gave us those gifts,how can you try and change Jesus gifts to HIS Church????Fancy ignoring Jesus gifts. Maggie,again.
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Post by nathan on Nov 6, 2018 1:05:59 GMT -5
Nathan!!! Don't you read pieces of encouraging scripture over and over again.. As I mentioned to Wally the doubter,forget me a bit. Those various pieces of scripture I quoted above is what it is all about,not ME??? How would you or any member of the unFriendlies fit those "MOST" important scriptures into a Preacher only ministry. That is all I am asking as they are some from JESUS and some from PAUL,we were told as kids that we (2x2s) were a direct line from the Pauline teachings,weren't you?? Magpie .PS ,The Scriptures,not me is the focus here,I put in my bit,you over the years have never once properly agreed or disagreed on those first 3 scripture pieces ,but,you say that you have,but I've never once seen it,you have not really have you??. You as an exMinister of Irvinism are taught very early to answer evasively,weren't you?? Explain then why,PREACHER only is biblical..SIMPLE? You keep on posting and repeating the same verses over and over, but you don't understand what is all about, that is what I am saying. I am NOT evasive in my answers for over 20 yrs on these type of message boards! The readers on here KNOW it.
I have explained those verses to you many times before but you ignored them and keep on posting the same verses over and over... people are tired of seeing the same verses but NO explanation from those verses from you.
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Post by nathan on Nov 6, 2018 1:07:39 GMT -5
By the way Nathan, Paul in those Ephesian verses,he said "HE" yes "HE" Jesus gave us those gifts,how can you try and change Jesus gifts to HIS Church????Fancy ignoring Jesus gifts. Maggie,again. I have explained Eph 4:11-12 for many years in the past... The workers have the same of those gifts today! apostles, evangelists, teachers, pastors, ministers and so on... Jesus is the same as Yesterday, today and forever! As long there are people on the earth, God's servants and His people will survive/live on the earth and Jesus continues to give those special gifts in EVERY GENERATION, to His apostles/workers so they can teach the saints how to be living witnesses/ministry sharing the gospel with others until He returns.
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Post by openingact34 on Nov 6, 2018 1:38:54 GMT -5
1 Timothy 5:19+, Do not listen to an accusation against an Elder unless it is brought by two or more witnesses. I wonder how many CSA cases have been squashed and victims ignored because of this verse
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