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Post by havejoy on Nov 11, 2018 16:55:46 GMT -5
Those are all beautiful verses. I don't see anywhere in those verses that tell me I need to wear skirts. We need to be examples by loving others. Colossians 3 v 12 Put on then, as God's chosen ones, holy and beloved, compassionate hearts, kindness, humility,meekness and patience. 13. Bearing one another and if one has a complaint against another, forgiving each other as the Lord has forgiven you, so you also must forgive. 14. And above all these put on love, which binds everything together in perfect harmony. 15. And let thr peace of Christ rule in your hearts to which you were called in one body. And be thankful. 16. Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly, teaching and admonishing one another in all wisdom, singing psalms and hymns, and spiritual songs with thankfulness in your hearts to God. 17. And whatever you do in word, or deed do everything in the name of the Lord Jesus giving thanks to God the Father through him. ** This is the standard that God'd chosen people need to uphold. 🙏 If we're honestly intent on following Jesus, we are not going to intentionally embarrass him by appearance which is not only looking modest but that our actions backup our love for Christ. Amen 🙏
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Post by nathan on Nov 11, 2018 17:06:23 GMT -5
We want to follow the example of Jesus spirit that he manifested like mercy, forgiveness, kindness, long suffering, NOT quick to temper, slow to anger, and so on... Fashion changes constantly or the way how we dress so modesty is the KEY! Willie Jamieson (USA overseer), who labored in China said to the workers on his staff who labored overseas, "Try NOT to make your converts to become and dress like the Americans but to be more Christ-like in Spirits." Wearing Dresses in Vietnam is VERY immodest (too much skin is showing) because the women ride motor bikes to get around to different places, or working in the rice fields, or climbing the ladders.
God give us brains and He wants us to use it. Like in Canada, -50 degree cold weather howling wind, and you want your children to wear dresses to school? Come on, use your common sense don't let your children Freeze to death out in the cold.
When in Rome do as the Romans do. Respect each country culture and fashion but don't force to obey one culture over another another as the ONLY way to do it.
When the Vietnamese friends and workers come to America to visit they wearing dresses, but when they go back in Vietnam they wear our tradional Ao dai for daily wear, because that's modesty over there. The workers who labored overseas understand in showing respect different culture customs and they try NOT to change that, but to convert people to follow Jesus teachings.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2018 18:02:25 GMT -5
1. You are the salt of the earth. But if the salt loses its saltiness, how can it be made salty again? It is no longer good for anything, except to be thrown out and trampled underfoot. - Matthew 5:13 2. In the same way, let your light shine before others, that they may see your good deeds and glorify your Father in heaven. - Matthew 5:16 3. 1 Follow God’s example, therefore, as dearly loved children 2 and walk in the way of love, just as Christ loved us and gave himself up for us as a fragrant offering and sacrifice to God. 3 But among you there must not be even a hint of sexual immorality, or of any kind of impurity, or of greed, because these are improper for God’s holy people. 4 Nor should there be obscenity, foolish talk or coarse joking, which are out of place, but rather thanksgiving. 5 For of this you can be sure: No immoral, impure or greedy person—such a person is an idolater—has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God. - Ephesians 5:1-5 4. Do not conform to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God’s will is—his good, pleasing and perfect will. - Romans 12:2 5. Finally, brothers and sisters, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable—if anything is excellent or praiseworthy—think about such things. - Philippians 4:8 6. Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a worker who does not need to be ashamed and who correctly handles the word of truth. - 2 Timothy 2:15 7. Don’t let anyone look down on you because you are young, but set an example for the believers in speech, in conduct, in love, in faith and in purity. - 1 Timothy 4:12 8. In everything set them an example by doing what is good. In your teaching show integrity, seriousness - Titus 2:7 9. Join together in following my example, brothers and sisters, and just as you have us as a model, keep your eyes on those who live as we do. - Philippians 3:17 10. Therefore, I urge you, brothers and sisters, in view of God’s mercy, to offer your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and pleasing to God—this is your true and proper worship. - Romans 12:1 11. Jas_5:10 Take, my brethren, the prophets, who have spoken in the name of the Lord, for an example of suffering affliction, and of patience. 12. 2Th_3:9 Not because we have not power, but to make ourselves an ensample unto you to follow us. a reiteration Mat 5:13 Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be salted? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men. Mat 5:14 Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid. Mat 5:15 Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the house. Mat 5:16 Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven. Wally, to be honest there's not one verse saying anything about clothing. The only one that comes close is about "sexual immorality". So even that doesn't say about clothing, but of course in the "battle of the sexes", people have used their "looks" to get the attention of the opposite sex. But actually what that verse is talking about is "fornication" or adultery. If you remember the Jews went to see the Gentile converts. They told those converts they MUST be circumcised in order to be associated with the church body of Christ. Now it became such an issue, Paul went to Jerusalem to talk with the Apostles. It was a very sizable conflab but James the Lord's brother said the fact is they were trying to inflict the Gentile converts with Jewish rules/laws that the Jews themselves find hard to bear. So the way to handle the issue is the fact that the Old Mosaic law and traditions did not save them, that's why Jesus came down The recommendation the Apostles came up with was to write to those Gentile converts and tell them that the only rules or recommendations were: "We write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions by of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled and from blood". Acts 15: 20 The outward appearance does not enter into ones salvation. The appearance issue is a legalistic issue controlled by men. Jesus said in John 7:24 "Judge not according to the appearance, but judge 'righteous judgement.' God said in I Sam. 16:7 "But the Lord said unto Samuel,"Look not on his countenance, or on the height of his stature; because I have refused him: for the Lord seeth not as man seeth; for man looketh on the 'outward appearance' but the Lord looketh on the heart." Deu_22:5 The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the LORD thy God. 1Pe_3:3 Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel; 1Ti_2:9 In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array; afraid your wrong....
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Post by snow on Nov 11, 2018 18:15:56 GMT -5
that isn't the example i gave for paul but Paul would have been an example for the men and the women for the women... I agree with both of you.... We want to follow the example of Jesus spirit that he manifested like mercy, forgiveness, kindness, long suffering, NOT quick to temper, slow to anger, and so on... Fashion changes constantly or the way how we dress so modesty is the KEY! Willie Jamieson (USA overseer), who labored in China said to the workers on his staff who labored overseas, "Try NOT to make your converts to become and dress like the Americans but to be more Christ-like in Spirits." Wearing Dresses in Vietnam is VERY immodest (too much skin is showing) because the women ride motor bikes to get around to different places, or working in the rice fields, or climbing the ladders.
God give us brains and He wants us to use it. Like in Canada, -50 degree cold weather howling wind, and you want your children to wear dresses to school? Come on, use your common sense don't let your children Freeze to death out in the cold.
When in Rome do as the Romans do. Respect each country culture and fashion but don't force to obey one culture over another another as the ONLY way to do it.
I remember those days Nathan. It wasn't just the 2x2's that decreed that woman wore dresses. Our schools wouldn't let girls wear pants in school. Didn't matter how cold or windy it was and where I lived it got pretty darn cold. We were told we could wear pants to our lockers but they needed to come off right away and dresses only in class. Stupid rules, but they weren't just 2x2 rules. They were societies rules for women back then. So when it was really cold we wore pants under our dresses so we could take them off easily and quickly when we got to school and before class.
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Post by nathan on Nov 11, 2018 18:25:03 GMT -5
Wally, to be honest there's not one verse saying anything about clothing. The only one that comes close is about "sexual immorality". So even that doesn't say about clothing, but of course in the "battle of the sexes", people have used their "looks" to get the attention of the opposite sex. But actually what that verse is talking about is "fornication" or adultery. If you remember the Jews went to see the Gentile converts. They told those converts they MUST be circumcised in order to be associated with the church body of Christ. Now it became such an issue, Paul went to Jerusalem to talk with the Apostles. It was a very sizable conflab but James the Lord's brother said the fact is they were trying to inflict the Gentile converts with Jewish rules/laws that the Jews themselves find hard to bear. So the way to handle the issue is the fact that the Old Mosaic law and traditions did not save them, that's why Jesus came down The recommendation the Apostles came up with was to write to those Gentile converts and tell them that the only rules or recommendations were: "We write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions by of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled and from blood". Acts 15: 20 The outward appearance does not enter into ones salvation. The appearance issue is a legalistic issue controlled by men. Jesus said in John 7:24 "Judge not according to the appearance, but judge 'righteous judgement.' God said in I Sam. 16:7 "But the Lord said unto Samuel,"Look not on his countenance, or on the height of his stature; because I have refused him: for the Lord seeth not as man seeth; for man looketh on the 'outward appearance' but the Lord looketh on the heart." Deu_22:5 The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the LORD thy God. 1Pe_3:3 Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel; 1Ti_2:9 In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array; afraid your wrong.... I believe the Canadians workers tried to conform the Vietnamese friends and workers to Western dresses, customs, and culture and it clashed. The Vietnamese workers don't try to force the Americans and Canadians workers and the friends to wear Vietnamese Ao dai traditions when they come to visit Vietnam so why should they force that on the Native? I know the Vietnamese friends and workers go to Philippines, Malaysia, to America and Canada for conventions they tried to respect their cultures and wear dresses. What the Americans and Canadians consider pants as men clothing but NOT in Vietnam and in Asia countries. Women wear pants for modesty, to cover their skins and NOT to show any of it in public. Deu_22:5 The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the LORD thy God.
This verse was the Covenant God made with the Children of Israel in the Old Testament.... In the New Testament God knew the gospel to forth to MANY nations and cultures, so Deut 22:5 would clashed with many cultures, so God will allow the Holy Spirit to teach and guide people what is the appropriate things to wear for that certain time and cultures because fashions changes.
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Post by nathan on Nov 11, 2018 18:29:20 GMT -5
I agree with both of you.... We want to follow the example of Jesus spirit that he manifested like mercy, forgiveness, kindness, long suffering, NOT quick to temper, slow to anger, and so on... Fashion changes constantly or the way how we dress so modesty is the KEY! Willie Jamieson (USA overseer), who labored in China said to the workers on his staff who labored overseas, "Try NOT to make your converts to become and dress like the Americans but to be more Christ-like in Spirits." Wearing Dresses in Vietnam is VERY immodest (too much skin is showing) because the women ride motor bikes to get around to different places, or working in the rice fields, or climbing the ladders.
God give us brains and He wants us to use it. Like in Canada, -50 degree cold weather howling wind, and you want your children to wear dresses to school? Come on, use your common sense don't let your children Freeze to death out in the cold.
When in Rome do as the Romans do. Respect each country culture and fashion but don't force to obey one culture over another another as the ONLY way to do it.
I remember those days Nathan. It wasn't just the 2x2's that decreed that woman wore dresses. Our schools wouldn't let girls wear pants in school. Didn't matter how cold or windy it was and where I lived it got pretty darn cold. We were told we could wear pants to our lockers but they needed to come off right away and dresses only in class. Stupid rules, but they weren't just 2x2 rules. They were societies rules for women back then. So when it was really cold we wore pants under our dresses so we could take them off easily and quickly when we got to school and before class. Yes, that was back then NOW, they allow them to wear pants.... I believe the workers have RELAX on pants also.... I know when I was in the work, I have seen the friends let their children wear pants in the REAL, REAL cold days! We see the female friends who work on the farm wear pants to do their chores.
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Post by magpie1 on Nov 11, 2018 18:54:18 GMT -5
ONE HUNDRED AND SEVENTY FIVE COMMENTS ON THE USELESS SUBJECT,YES I AM GUILTY FOR MY BIT I ADDED> WHY WHEN MILLIONS OP GOD'S FAMILY ARE BEING PERSECUTED BECAUSE THEY ARE PROFESSING CHRISTIANS IN HOSTILE LANDS... Thought following"DEBATE"may keep yor mind away from a bit of hair stuck on Budda's or a kids Head. Magpie www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEPlcWcCsY4 . www.youtube.com/watch?v=H50jCTtBgAM
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Post by havejoy on Nov 11, 2018 19:03:35 GMT -5
Wally, to be honest there's not one verse saying anything about clothing. The only one that comes close is about "sexual immorality". So even that doesn't say about clothing, but of course in the "battle of the sexes", people have used their "looks" to get the attention of the opposite sex. But actually what that verse is talking about is "fornication" or adultery. If you remember the Jews went to see the Gentile converts. They told those converts they MUST be circumcised in order to be associated with the church body of Christ. Now it became such an issue, Paul went to Jerusalem to talk with the Apostles. It was a very sizable conflab but James the Lord's brother said the fact is they were trying to inflict the Gentile converts with Jewish rules/laws that the Jews themselves find hard to bear. So the way to handle the issue is the fact that the Old Mosaic law and traditions did not save them, that's why Jesus came down The recommendation the Apostles came up with was to write to those Gentile converts and tell them that the only rules or recommendations were: "We write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions by of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled and from blood". Acts 15: 20 The outward appearance does not enter into ones salvation. The appearance issue is a legalistic issue controlled by men. Jesus said in John 7:24 "Judge not according to the appearance, but judge 'righteous judgement.' God said in I Sam. 16:7 "But the Lord said unto Samuel,"Look not on his countenance, or on the height of his stature; because I have refused him: for the Lord seeth not as man seeth; for man looketh on the 'outward appearance' but the Lord looketh on the heart." Deu_22:5 The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the LORD thy God. 1Pe_3:3 Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel; 1Ti_2:9 In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array; afraid your wrong.... Deu_22:5 The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the LORD thy God. Men and women wore robes in that day.... Does not relate to our day. There are male pants and female pants, just like in bibke days there were man robes and women robes.
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Post by magpie1 on Nov 11, 2018 19:27:33 GMT -5
177 Replies now? Wow "Hair" 2x2s have wasted millions of nonproductive hours,that could have served God and His little ones in so many ways. Magpie Well here is one view why. . www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0roC35Mdow . www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoRHSViY3q0 .Has anyone gone to David Legge and debated or corrected any points he made that would conflict with the Irvine Doctrine,used by Cooney and current 2x2 Preacher only ministry. Others would,but their theology might be a bit stronger.
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Post by BobWilliston on Nov 11, 2018 20:23:48 GMT -5
If you're talking about women, I think the women who dress like workers only do that when they go to meetings or have company. that may be true in a lot of cases but not all.... 50% full or 50% empty Same thing.
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Post by BobWilliston on Nov 11, 2018 20:27:37 GMT -5
If you're talking about women, I think the women who dress like workers only do that when they go to meetings or have company. That is 100% correct with the friends I still mix with in NZ. About a dozen or so. It is like having a dollar each way in a horse race. As I have said before it is now a social club for the gullible. I remember going to one of the friend's houses when I was small and the woman of the house was not dressed in her meeting garb -- and I thought it was kind of funny looking for a professing woman to look like that.
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Post by openingact34 on Nov 11, 2018 23:09:06 GMT -5
God give us brains and He wants us to use it. Like in Canada, -50 degree cold weather howling wind, and you want your children to wear dresses to school? Come on, use your common sense don't let your children Freeze to death out in the cold.
What if Jesus decides to return on a cold day? Would you rather have daughters with frostbitten legs or see them be left behind?
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Post by nathan on Nov 12, 2018 0:47:40 GMT -5
God give us brains and He wants us to use it. Like in Canada, -50 degree cold weather howling wind, and you want your children to wear dresses to school? Come on, use your common sense don't let your children Freeze to death out in the cold.
What if Jesus decides to return on a cold day? Would you rather have daughters with frostbitten legs or see them be left behind? Like I said in my post, time has changed when I was in the work from 1986-93 we see the friends kids living on the farm wearing pants to school on the cold, windy days! We DID NOT tell them your girls can't wear pants. It was a good thing to protect the girls from frostbite and freeze to death.
God is going to take them when Jesus comes again, whether they wear pants, skirts or NOT. It's the spirits of Christ that draw them to Jesus.
Do you think God is going to leave the 2x2s Asians in China, Vietnam behind because the professing women wear pants as their customs?\
Thanks, be to God that He is charge of heaven for who to enter or NOT and NOT Men/workers in charge at the gate.
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Post by magpie1 on Nov 12, 2018 1:08:35 GMT -5
ACT34, jESUS DID NOT WEAR TROUSERS, SO JOCK THE SCOT WOULD BE MORE BIBLICALLY DRESSED THAN DONALD TRUMP,WOULD"T HE? mAGPIE
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Post by sharingtheriches on Nov 12, 2018 1:20:27 GMT -5
Wally, to be honest there's not one verse saying anything about clothing. The only one that comes close is about "sexual immorality". So even that doesn't say about clothing, but of course in the "battle of the sexes", people have used their "looks" to get the attention of the opposite sex. But actually what that verse is talking about is "fornication" or adultery. If you remember the Jews went to see the Gentile converts. They told those converts they MUST be circumcised in order to be associated with the church body of Christ. Now it became such an issue, Paul went to Jerusalem to talk with the Apostles. It was a very sizable conflab but James the Lord's brother said the fact is they were trying to inflict the Gentile converts with Jewish rules/laws that the Jews themselves find hard to bear. So the way to handle the issue is the fact that the Old Mosaic law and traditions did not save them, that's why Jesus came down The recommendation the Apostles came up with was to write to those Gentile converts and tell them that the only rules or recommendations were: "We write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions by of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled and from blood". Acts 15: 20 The outward appearance does not enter into ones salvation. The appearance issue is a legalistic issue controlled by men. Jesus said in John 7:24 "Judge not according to the appearance, but judge 'righteous judgement.' God said in I Sam. 16:7 "But the Lord said unto Samuel,"Look not on his countenance, or on the height of his stature; because I have refused him: for the Lord seeth not as man seeth; for man looketh on the 'outward appearance' but the Lord looketh on the heart." Deu_22:5 The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the LORD thy God. 1Pe_3:3 Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel; 1Ti_2:9 In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array; afraid your wrong.... It doesn't say those verses it has anything to do with salvation. Now the OT clothing had such little difference between male and female. They both wore robes. The difference was the male's robes were a bit shorter and not as full with less yardage of material. They wore a rope around their waist in case they needed to "gird" themselves to run or work truthfully the men often took their robes off when they worked in the fields. Some wore perhaps something like a breech clout but often they stripped naked. Of course until harvest there wasn't any females expected to be around The female robes were longer, sweeping close to the ground and when they got to puberty they started wearing their veils. Talking about men running naked reminds me that as I've read the Bible no one seemed too upset anytime a man was naked. So if we're to be legalistic, we should say the men wear trousers/suits so according to when that rule about clothing first came out... women need to wear trousers and suits also but with some difference such as a fuller cut all the way around. Something like gaucho pants and poncho tops. No one should be able to determine what that lady looks like under her clothing. And if long hair is the way, then she needs to wear it down so she'd provided by nature with a veil. I'd be very glad for the air conditioning of our day, I mean mire so then I'm right now! 😉
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2018 1:28:52 GMT -5
Deu_22:5 The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the LORD thy God. 1Pe_3:3 Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel; 1Ti_2:9 In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array; afraid your wrong.... It doesn't say those verses it has anything to do with salvation. that was a response to what you said about there being no verses about clothes...but anyways it was about salvation in the OT duet 22:5 speaks for itself...anything that was an abomination was cut off from isreal...
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Post by sharingtheriches on Nov 12, 2018 1:29:02 GMT -5
I believe some are straining at a gnat and swallowing a camel.
Ie. The plaiting of the hair is specifically mentioned, whereas clothing is not specifically categorized. As in no women in men's clothing is much broader then no plaiting of the hair.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2018 1:46:52 GMT -5
I believe some are straining at a gnat and swallowing a camel. Ie. The plaiting of the hair is specifically mentioned, whereas clothing is not specifically categorized. As in no women in men's clothing is much broader then no plaiting of the hair. is trying to follow scripture as closely as possible a gnat or a camel?
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Post by sharingtheriches on Nov 12, 2018 2:06:25 GMT -5
I believe some are straining at a gnat and swallowing a camel. Ie. The plaiting of the hair is specifically mentioned, whereas clothing is not specifically categorized. As in no women in men's clothing is much broader then no plaiting of the hair. is trying to follow scripture as closely as possible a gnat or a camel? It's neither. However, the legalistic world says to use the sister workers for example of lady's clothing. But then they turn around and plait their hair. There is no direct wording other then wearing and ornamentals and nothing specifically wording about what apparel. Such as long skirts ot halter tops, what have you. But no one is following the directions specific "no plaiting of the hair". That's the straining at a gnat and swallowing a camel. Whereas it's also not following the scriptures as much as is possible. Or do you think it's impossible for the women not to plait their hair?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2018 2:11:28 GMT -5
is trying to follow scripture as closely as possible a gnat or a camel? It's neither. However, the legalistic world says to use the sister workers for example of lady's clothing. But then they turn around and plait their hair. There is no direct wording other then wearing and ornamentals and nothing specifically wording about what apparel. Such as long skirts ot halter tops, what have you. But no one is following the directions specific "no plaiting of the hair". That's the straining at a gnat and swallowing a camel. Whereas it's also not following the scriptures as much as is possible. Or do you think it's impossible for the women not to plait their hair? i suppose that depends on your definition of plaiting, plait or plaits mine is corn rows on your head....
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Post by sharingtheriches on Nov 12, 2018 4:47:59 GMT -5
Plaiting is braiding. Corn rows include d. Your post about corn rows and plaiting is fine example of straining at a gnat and swallowing a camel.
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Post by dmmichgood on Nov 12, 2018 4:54:41 GMT -5
It was a fad then. Why do you care about another man or woman’s hair style anyhow? Nothing better or more productive to do? It seems like it’s none of your business and certainly has nothing to do with anyone’s salvation. You have it backwards... the 60 yr old women are dressing like the 18 yr olds BS, yet again, jetmech!
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Post by dmmichgood on Nov 12, 2018 5:10:58 GMT -5
It's neither. However, the legalistic world says to use the sister workers for example of lady's clothing. But then they turn around and plait their hair. There is no direct wording other then wearing and ornamentals and nothing specifically wording about what apparel. Such as long skirts ot halter tops, what have you. But no one is following the directions specific "no plaiting of the hair". That's the straining at a gnat and swallowing a camel. Whereas it's also not following the scriptures as much as is possible. Or do you think it's impossible for the women not to plait their hair? i suppose that depends on your definition of plaiting, plait or plaits mine is corn rows on your head.... A lot of us who were professing "plaited" (braided) our hair.
In my high school graduation picture my hair was "plaited" (braided).
Just what to you think that you are going to do with your hair, wally, when you were REQUIRED to have it long?
All of my classmates had short permed hair!
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Post by tuesday on Nov 12, 2018 5:33:38 GMT -5
i suppose that depends on your definition of plaiting, plait or plaits mine is corn rows on your head.... A lot of us who were professing "plaited" (braided) our hair.
In my high school graduation picture my hair was "plaited" (braided).
Just what to you think that you are going to do with your hair, wally, when you were REQUIRED to have it long?
All of my classmates had short permed hair!I often think of these verses about not plaiting hair when someone talks about obeying all the Bible vs only obeying some parts of the Bible.... particularly if we as professing people use these Bible verses to condemn jewellery but ignore the part about braids... Curious, do any of the professing people here have reasons for not wearing jewellery other than those Bible verses which also talk about braids?
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Post by dmmichgood on Nov 12, 2018 6:30:27 GMT -5
It's neither. However, the legalistic world says to use the sister workers for example of lady's clothing. But then they turn around and plait their hair. There is no direct wording other then wearing and ornamentals and nothing specifically wording about what apparel. Such as long skirts ot halter tops, what have you. But no one is following the directions specific "no plaiting of the hair". That's the straining at a gnat and swallowing a camel. Whereas it's also not following the scriptures as much as is possible. Or do you think it's impossible for the women not to plait their hair? i suppose that depends on your definition of plaiting, plait or plaits mine is corn rows on your head.... Well wally, I really AM sorry but you just don't happen to have the credentials to define what is a PLAIT, BRAID, OR CORNROWS They are all the same really. Cornrows or braids, also called canerows in the Caribbean, are an ancient traditional African style of hair grooming, in which the hair is braided very close to the scalp, using an underhand, upward motion to produce a continuous, raised row.[1] Cornrows are often formed in simple, straight lines, as the name implies, but they can also be formed in complicated geometric or curvilinear designs. Depending on the region of the world, cornrows are worn by men or women, or both, and are sometimes adorned with beads or cowry shells. from wiki
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Post by dmmichgood on Nov 12, 2018 6:38:30 GMT -5
So a 18 year old girl should dress like a 60 year old worker @wally ? It was a fad then. Why do you care about another man or woman’s hair style anyhow? Nothing better or more productive to do? It seems like it’s none of your business and certainly has nothing to do with anyone’s salvation. gsamuelwalker ,
Why are you calling it a "fad" when a 18 year old girl would be required to dress like a 60 year old worker?
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Post by sharingtheriches on Nov 12, 2018 11:46:55 GMT -5
i suppose that depends on your definition of plaiting, plait or plaits mine is corn rows on your head.... A lot of us who were professing "plaited" (braided) our hair.
In my high school graduation picture my hair was "plaited" (braided).
Just what to you think that you are going to do with your hair, wally, when you were REQUIRED to have it long?
All of my classmates had short permed hair!I had a conversation about long hair being up or down with an overseer. I had said by to him that wearing long hair up was defeating the purpose of the long hair. I said the Bible says women are to have long hair for veils. That putting it up so tightly on the head was no better then having short hair. That the sculpture of the neck and upper shoulders are as open to see as short hair. I also said that done up hair was more sexually exciting as men think about they'd like to unpin a woman's hair. That unpinning a woman s hair is part if foreplay He said that the young women in the two by twos have said and told him differently. That when they wear their hair down that's when the men have been more enticed. So it seems again men are too easily tempted by women. 😱
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Post by sharingtheriches on Nov 12, 2018 11:58:36 GMT -5
A lot of us who were professing "plaited" (braided) our hair.
In my high school graduation picture my hair was "plaited" (braided).
Just what to you think that you are going to do with your hair, wally, when you were REQUIRED to have it long?
All of my classmates had short permed hair! I often think of these verses about not plaiting hair when someone talks about obeying all the Bible vs only obeying some parts of the Bible.... particularly if we as professing people use these Bible verses to condemn jewellery but ignore the part about braids... Curious, do any of the professing people here have reasons for not wearing jewellery other than those Bible verses which also talk about braids? This is an age old phenomenon among the two by twos. I'm often reminded of the children of Israel when they were preparing to leave Egypt. Their Egyptian neighbors gave them great amounts of gems and gold jewelry. The CofI spoiled the Egyptians. Now if it was against God's will that no jewelry was to be worn or even possessed, the CofIsrael would not taken that jewelry from the Egyptians.
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