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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2018 22:58:43 GMT -5
Because when they do it in the name of God or politics, it is still their own responsibility, own up to it. But it seems that they think if they do it in the name of something or someone who can't take up for itself or their selves, that it should be an accepted violence. Not even God agrees in that. He told us to love our neighbors as ourselves. Fact Check: Total number killed by God in the Bible- Using biblical numbers only: 2,821,364 - With estimates: 25,000,000 Documented in the book Drunk with Blood: God's Killings in the Bible satan has more than caught up since the flood....
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Post by nathan on Nov 5, 2018 23:03:03 GMT -5
If we're still talking about evidence there is a God, I've had enough evidence to make me know there is a higher power and I think calling it)him "God" is okay! And yes, it seems Everytime I've gotten such evidence I'm caught unprepared by not having a recording system at hand. But I think that it's one of those things that God likely does intentionally. I don't think he's into splashing his business around so wildly for he's being patient for those whom will voluntarily come to him and ask for his help. But some day he will reveal himself to one and all, I know that and I trust he will do exactly that. The Bible is supposed to be used to guide us into all righteousness and there in is where and when we discover that God IS real. I've discovered that just reading the Bible in the same manner anyone might read any book just doesn't reveal the precious mysteries there in. God intentionally intended that his mysteries wouldn't be so blatantly evident. Why? People being so easily bored would get tired of it. Also God wants us to be like Solomon and ask him to give us wisdom. I don't doubt you have closely held beliefs, or question your sincerity of belief. It's the same with nathan and his UFO's and hollow earth. Anyone can believe anything they want, and I don't have much of a problem with it, unless it harms others. But, if you want me to believe what you believe. I may, but only AFTER you have presented good evidence. To believe before you have a good reason is the definition of credulity - "a tendency to be too ready to believe that something is real or true."In the bible there are many miracles. These acts convinced many that Jesus was the son of god, yet you don't see any recorded miracles lately. Why? It's just like I am still waiting for nathan to explain why now that billions have a smart phone with a high quality camera in their pockets, why then don't we see lots of high quality UFO alien videos. Here is one of 1000s video on UFO... UFO appeared on top of the Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem. www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSZ2mSnaC44Here is the actual video of a UFO and a bunch of them on top of the Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem taken by two guys. www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQ-bNOy_CKQ
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Post by nathan on Nov 5, 2018 23:13:05 GMT -5
Fact Check: Total number killed by God in the Bible- Using biblical numbers only: 2,821,364 - With estimates: 25,000,000 Documented in the book Drunk with Blood: God's Killings in the Bible satan has more than caught up since the flood.... Amen, Wally..... Just THINK how many billions or Trillions of people have lived on the earth since Adam and Eve.... AND Satan has MOST those souls in HADES/Realm of the dead. He will take all of unbelievers souls to the Everlasting Lake of fire with him. So, who do you think KILLED more people souls, Satan or God?
Christ came down from heaven to SAVE souls.... Jesus said I come that you will have ETERNAL life and have it more life abundantly... Satan is a liar, a murder from beginning, his purpose in life is to KILL and NOT to SAVE lives.
Those whom God killed in the Old Testament belong to Satan or his children...
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Post by dmmichgood on Nov 5, 2018 23:22:54 GMT -5
Ok -for both of you, - jetmech & wally
Lets just deconstruct this bit of your post. jetmech.
1. hunger strikes:
- hunger strikes are usually done by people who are protesting an injustice.
2. Al Sharpton:
-Al Sharpton is a black American civil rights activist 3. Someone stated the the hunger strike should continue "indefinitely" : -(meaning until the person is dead.)
-The 1981 Irish hunger strike was the culmination of a five-year protest during The Troubles by Irish republican prisoners in Northern Ireland. - On 5 May, Sands died in the prison hospital on the sixty-sixth day of his hunger strike, -In the two weeks following Sands' death, three more hunger strikers died.
4. people "cracking up!": (laughing)
-should those deaths be a "laughing matter?"
Jetmech and wally, do you think those deaths be a "laughing matter?"
Jetmech and wally, if you don't think their deaths were to be something to laugh at, -why not?
Because they were white but this man is black?
Just like Bob Williston just said essentiallly you're going to make yourself pretty miserable dmmich if you keep being so sensitive to every little word others sa😉 Ah, come on, jetmech! Don't go trying to say that Bob Williston agrees with you! I am showing that "words," -little ones or big ones, -can do a lot of damage! "Racists jokes," -"sexist jokes, " aren't funny.
They denigrate, attack & deny the importance or validity of someone or some group. But by "wrapping" it into something suppose to be humorous they can come back saying it was just meant to be "funny." But those kinds of "jokes" are NOT something that thoughtful people should accept & just laugh at.
Jetmech, -and don't worry yourself about me being "miserable!"
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2018 23:29:09 GMT -5
Just like Bob Williston just said essentiallly you're going to make yourself pretty miserable dmmich if you keep being so sensitive to every little word others sa😉 Just like Bob Williston just said essentiallly you're going to make yourself pretty miserable dmmich if you keep being so sensitive to every little word others sa😉 Ah, come on, jetmech! Don't go trying to say that Bob Williston agrees with you! I am showing that "words," -little ones or big ones, -can do a lot of damage! "Racists jokes," -"sexist jokes, " aren't funny.
They denigrate, attack & deny the importance or validity of someone or some group. But by "wrapping" it into something suppose to be humorous they can come back saying it was just meant to be "funny." But those kinds of "jokes" are NOT something that thoughtful people should accept & just laugh at.
Jetmech, -and don't worry yourself about me being "miserable!"
yeah right...like you aren't right up front laughing away at SNL shows that "They denigrate, attack & deny the importance or validity of someone or some group. But by "wrapping" it into something suppose to be humorous they can come back saying it was just meant to be "funny." when repubs are the butt of the jokes....
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Post by sharingtheriches on Nov 5, 2018 23:31:59 GMT -5
Because when they do it in the name of God or politics, it is still their own responsibility, own up to it. But it seems that they think if they do it in the name of something or someone who can't take up for itself or their selves, that it should be an accepted violence. Not even God agrees in that. He told us to love our neighbors as ourselves. Fact Check: Total number killed by God in the Bible- Using biblical numbers only: 2,821,364 - With estimates: 25,000,000 Documented in the book Drunk with Blood: God's Killings in the Bible Fact:. This is credited to God, but we don't really know he is the doer. It was something passed on orally and it's probably had some changes in the telling and when someone was able to write it, that's all he had to go by. Does God do killings? I am surprised at how he's withstood all these centuries with such evil and wickedness so prevalent on the earth. Why hasn't he called time is up and get on with Judgment Day and new heaven and Earth where only the righteous be shall live? So if he was so unworthily killing people he'd already gotten the problems out of the way. But as the Bible says God is long in patience and he would not any man should perish.
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Post by sharingtheriches on Nov 5, 2018 23:40:00 GMT -5
The cure is to remove all religions, but I guess that will never happen. Scary thought , but sadly there are people who believe that killing all religious people would eliminate religion. Thankful , for more reasonable thinkers , like David mcafee , (an atheist who studies religion. ) , compared to Sam Harris , “If I could wave a magic wand and get rid of either rape or religion, I would not hesitate to get rid of religion.” Wow Alvin Atheists Should Stop Trying to Destroy Religion davidgmcafee.wordpress.com/2015/06/08/atheists-should-stop-trying-to-destroy-religion/Recently, I was approached by a self-described anti-theist who suggested that killing every single religious person – man, woman, and child – was a viable “cure for religion.” This would be almost negligible if it were just a one-off occurrence, or if the person was saying it for shock value, but I’ve heard this proposal a number of times and this particular individual stressed his military background and demanded a logical rebuttal to his position. I told him that killing all religious people to end religion isn’t just a disturbing thought, it also wouldn’t work. "remove all religions" was the wrong word to use here. "fade away" or "die out" would have better expressed my thoughts. Sorry about making you think i have an extreme atheist worldview. Do you know any open atheist in person? All the atheists I know are opposed to killing anyone for what they think, or prohibiting them from saying what they think. Look at countries where religion has nearly died out and compare that with the very religious countries. You can see the positive effects on the quality of life in society when religion has greatly declined. Yet I don't expect religion to die out for the same reasons David mcafee explained in his blog. ------------------------------- Now let's play a "hypothetical game". Which is worse; a) killing all theists b) torturing all atheists for a lifetime, plus infinity a) The most extreme anti-theist possible b) The plan of the god of the Abrahamic religions PS: I have never heard of David mcafee, but I just now read the blog link. Thanks I not sure where or who he hangs out with but I have never heard any atheist advocate killing anyone based of their religion! It's a big world so it's possible some out there (may be in China???). Compare that to many theist's each day in the news who do kill other theist or atheists. The two are not even close to comparable in fact. Here is the bio of Sam Harris PhD in cognitive neuroscience FROM UCLA least anyone think he is a common lunatic from this thread. FYI: A Sam Harris quote from the same interview "Unlike some atheists who cast clever barbs at all spirituality, Harris sees value in what he calls the “contemplative experience” and views his own Buddhist-inspired meditation practice as an evidence-based, rational enterprise."The Buddhists have some very wise things and thoughts. I was glad to read medical journel in my CE class about how the psychiatric field has started using meditation as a help for various psychiatric patients. I know meditation is good for us to learn. Learning how to be internally quiet is a fete for many then learning how to accept one's self and problems is another boon.
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Post by sharingtheriches on Nov 5, 2018 23:48:58 GMT -5
. God is not the problem, the problem is when people believe in and kill others over what they imagine god wants them to do. If mankind can't utilize what's been given them, why should God bear the brunt of the blame? I don't blame any god for the harm and evil, I blame what people do in the name of their gods. Good points I agree . It is a human problem, who use the tool of religion to do great evil and harm . Many very good and helpful tools , can and are used for terrible deeds . Eliminating any or all those tools , wouldn’t change the human condition as they would invent “new” ones , if their “desires” or “heart” are not changed . Alvin Alvin The thing of it is, people that are tending towards violence are going to do it and they'll always have what they think is a good excuse, whether it's blaming God for their evil hearts or blaming the PTA.
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Post by dmmichgood on Nov 5, 2018 23:50:49 GMT -5
Ah, come on, jetmech! Don't go trying to say that Bob Williston agrees with you! I am showing that "words," -little ones or big ones, -can do a lot of damage! "Racists jokes," -"sexist jokes, " aren't funny.
They denigrate, attack & deny the importance or validity of someone or some group. But by "wrapping" it into something suppose to be humorous they can come back saying it was just meant to be "funny." But those kinds of "jokes" are NOT something that thoughtful people should accept & just laugh at.
Jetmech, -and don't worry yourself about me being "miserable!"
yeah right...like you aren't right up front laughing away at SNL shows that "They denigrate, attack & deny the importance or validity of someone or some group. But by "wrapping" it into something suppose to be humorous they can come back saying it was just meant to be "funny." when repubs are the butt of the jokes.... Wally. Surely you aren't that dense.
But if you are, -just be so. I am not going to try to enlighten you.
Now that should make you happy! Right?
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Post by dmmichgood on Nov 6, 2018 1:41:07 GMT -5
Fact Check: Total number killed by God in the Bible- Using biblical numbers only: 2,821,364 - With estimates: 25,000,000 Documented in the book Drunk with Blood: God's Killings in the Bible Fact:. This is credited to God, but we don't really know he is the doer. It was something passed on orally and it's probably had some changes in the telling and when someone was able to write it, that's all he had to go by.
Does God do killings? I am surprised at how he's withstood all these centuries with such evil and wickedness so prevalent on the earth. Why hasn't he called time is up and get on with Judgment Day and new heaven and Earth where only the righteous be shall live? So if he was so unworthily killing people he'd already gotten the problems out of the way. But as the Bible says God is long in patience and he would not any man should perish. Documented in the book, Drunk with Blood: God's Killings in the BiblePeople amaze me!
You start off questioning the statistics because as you say, "It was something passed on orally and it's probably had some changes in the telling and when someone was able to write it, that's all he had to go by."
(you are speaking of the bible I presume?)
Yet you NEVER question other parts of the bible using that same criteria.
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Post by dmmichgood on Nov 6, 2018 2:23:08 GMT -5
well, if you two, -as well as some other guys, -would use some critical thinking about your beliefs and positions, you could put me out a of job! I assure I've given much thought about faith and it's been a critical process. So I have to say your problem is not giving critical thinking rights to those who critically think about critical matters, yet may come up with different results then you. Why is it such a dire thing if someone believes in God? Why should that rile you into trying to change that? Critical Thinking is a process by which one can come to a reasonable conclusion.
Critical Thinking isn't something one can give a "right" to, -as you said about what you thought my problem was , -"not giving critical thinking rights to others."
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_thinking from wiki Critical thinking is the objective analysis of facts to form a judgment.[1]
The subject is complex, and several different definitions exist, which generally include the rational, skeptical, unbiased analysis, or evaluation of factual evidence. Critical thinking is self-directed, self-disciplined, self-monitored, and self-corrective thinking.
It presupposed assent to rigorous standards of excellence and mindful command to their use. It entails effective communication and problem-solving abilities, as well as a commitment to overcome our native egocentrism[2][3] and sociocentrism.
PS: I am not "riled" but beliefs in god has caused a lot of unnecessary pain & suffering.
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Post by jetmech on Nov 6, 2018 2:56:32 GMT -5
Just like Bob Williston just said essentiallly you're going to make yourself pretty miserable dmmich if you keep being so sensitive to every little word others sa😉 Ah, come on, jetmech! Don't go trying to say that Bob Williston agrees with you! I am showing that "words," -little ones or big ones, -can do a lot of damage! "Racists jokes," -"sexist jokes, " aren't funny.
They denigrate, attack & deny the importance or validity of someone or some group. But by "wrapping" it into something suppose to be humorous they can come back saying it was just meant to be "funny." But those kinds of "jokes" are NOT something that thoughtful people should accept & just laugh at.
Jetmech, -and don't worry yourself about me being "miserable!"
I didn't say BW agrees with me ..I just "coined his phrase" is all.
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Post by xna on Nov 6, 2018 9:49:05 GMT -5
Some possibilities are: 1. A real UFO 2. Buraq, a steed in Islamic mythology, a creature from the heavens that transported the prophets. Buraq carried the prophet Muhammad from Mecca to Jerusalem in a night journey 3. A. Hoax in the Holy Land: Jerusalem UFO a Proven Fake
It would be nice to see more than a white dot moving on the screen.
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Post by xna on Nov 6, 2018 10:02:03 GMT -5
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Post by xna on Nov 6, 2018 10:12:57 GMT -5
Fact:. This is credited to God, but we don't really know he is the doer. It was something passed on orally and it's probably had some changes in the telling and when someone was able to write it, that's all he had to go by. Does God do killings? I am surprised at how he's withstood all these centuries with such evil and wickedness so prevalent on the earth. Why hasn't he called time is up and get on with Judgment Day and new heaven and Earth where only the righteous be shall live? So if he was so unworthily killing people he'd already gotten the problems out of the way. But as the Bible says God is long in patience and he would not any man should perish. I too don't think any god has ever killed anyone. But for different reasons than you. I know there are accounts of statues of gods, and such following over and killing people, but to me, that's not a real god doing the killing. What I was going with was only what the bible says, not adding or taking away because of the dire warning at the end. "For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book."
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Post by xna on Nov 6, 2018 10:44:42 GMT -5
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Nov 6, 2018 11:50:38 GMT -5
That looks more like a washing machine that crash landed on Mars.
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Post by sharingtheriches on Nov 6, 2018 12:55:05 GMT -5
Fact:. This is credited to God, but we don't really know he is the doer. It was something passed on orally and it's probably had some changes in the telling and when someone was able to write it, that's all he had to go by. Does God do killings? I am surprised at how he's withstood all these centuries with such evil and wickedness so prevalent on the earth. Why hasn't he called time is up and get on with Judgment Day and new heaven and Earth where only the righteous be shall live? So if he was so unworthily killing people he'd already gotten the problems out of the way. But as the Bible says God is long in patience and he would not any man should perish. I too don't think any god has ever killed anyone. But for different reasons than you. I know there are accounts of statues of gods, and such following over and killing people, but to me, that's not a real god doing the killing. What I was going with was only what the bible says, not adding or taking away because of the dire warning at the end. "For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book."I feel that those things which are credited to God especially in the OT are left that way for a good reason. It's apparent to me what God desires in and from anyone is glory to God's name. Now in the lesser educated people of the OT if it made them conscious of God and his power then if they credit thousands of deaths by God's hands then they can know God is powerful hopefully not to make them afraid of God but to put a healthy respect in their heads and hearts for God. Teaching them that all things are to be for the glory of God, even themselves. It's better to be on the obedient side of God then on his vengeful side. An aunt of mine used to say that God is dealing out mixed mercy. Mixed as in some things will receive his love and mercy and some things or people will receive his wrath. But, as she continued, sometime in the future he will not deal with love and mercy but all wrath.
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Post by sharingtheriches on Nov 6, 2018 13:06:54 GMT -5
I assure I've given much thought about faith and it's been a critical process. So I have to say your problem is not giving critical thinking rights to those who critically think about critical matters, yet may come up with different results then you. Why is it such a dire thing if someone believes in God? Why should that rile you into trying to change that? Critical Thinking is a process by which one can come to a reasonable conclusion.
Critical Thinking isn't something one can give a "right" to, -as you said about what you thought my problem was , -"not giving critical thinking rights to others."
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_thinking from wiki Critical thinking is the objective analysis of facts to form a judgment.[1]
The subject is complex, and several different definitions exist, which generally include the rational, skeptical, unbiased analysis, or evaluation of factual evidence. Critical thinking is self-directed, self-disciplined, self-monitored, and self-corrective thinking.
It presupposed assent to rigorous standards of excellence and mindful command to their use. It entails effective communication and problem-solving abilities, as well as a commitment to overcome our native egocentrism[2][3] and sociocentrism.
PS: I am not "riled" but beliefs in god has caused a lot of unnecessary pain & suffering.
You're cloaking every person who is a believer as someone who causes unnecessary pain and suffering. You never grant that we have the brains to do"critical thinking" and arrive at "reasonable" information. Just because we're believers we just don't have the intelligence that you so glorify that you have. This is why I've said many times before you purposefully denigrate us as being "stupid" just because we believe in God. Then you turn around and say no I don't say you're stupid. You have to know that there are many ways of saying that someone is stupid and you do it with the bragging about you have "critical thinking" and believers don't. We come up with a different knowledge about God then you do, but I think it's in our rights to do that. We use critical thinking from our experiences that lead us to come to the critical outcome that we know there is a God for we have had dealings with him, his Son and his Holy Spirit.
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Post by dmmichgood on Nov 6, 2018 17:49:13 GMT -5
Ah, come on, jetmech! Don't go trying to say that Bob Williston agrees with you! I am showing that "words," -little ones or big ones, -can do a lot of damage! "Racists jokes," -"sexist jokes, " aren't funny.
They denigrate, attack & deny the importance or validity of someone or some group. But by "wrapping" it into something suppose to be humorous they can come back saying it was just meant to be "funny." But those kinds of "jokes" are NOT something that thoughtful people should accept & just laugh at.
Jetmech, -and don't worry yourself about me being "miserable!"
I didn't say BW agrees with me ..I just "coined his phrase" is all. OK. Here comes a grammar lesson or some kind of writing lesson. This is what you said: "Just like Bob Williston just said essentiallly you're going to make yourself pretty miserable dmmich if you keep being so sensitive to every little word others sa"
This would have made it more accurate:
"Just like Bob Williston might say, - essentially you're going to make yourself pretty miserable dmmich if you keep being so sensitive to every little word others say. "
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Nov 6, 2018 18:32:09 GMT -5
Critical Thinking is a process by which one can come to a reasonable conclusion.
Critical Thinking isn't something one can give a "right" to, -as you said about what you thought my problem was , -"not giving critical thinking rights to others."
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_thinking from wiki Critical thinking is the objective analysis of facts to form a judgment.[1]
The subject is complex, and several different definitions exist, which generally include the rational, skeptical, unbiased analysis, or evaluation of factual evidence. Critical thinking is self-directed, self-disciplined, self-monitored, and self-corrective thinking.
It presupposed assent to rigorous standards of excellence and mindful command to their use. It entails effective communication and problem-solving abilities, as well as a commitment to overcome our native egocentrism[2][3] and sociocentrism.
PS: I am not "riled" but beliefs in god has caused a lot of unnecessary pain & suffering.
You're cloaking every person who is a believer as someone who causes unnecessary pain and suffering. You never grant that we have the brains to do"critical thinking" and arrive at "reasonable" information. Just because we're believers we just don't have the intelligence that you so glorify that you have. This is why I've said many times before you purposefully denigrate us as being "stupid" just because we believe in God. Then you turn around and say no I don't say you're stupid. You have to know that there are many ways of saying that someone is stupid and you do it with the bragging about you have "critical thinking" and believers don't. We come up with a different knowledge about God then you do, but I think it's in our rights to do that. We use critical thinking from our experiences that lead us to come to the critical outcome that we know there is a God for we have had dealings with him, his Son and his Holy Spirit. You are guilty by association.
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Post by jetmech on Nov 6, 2018 19:38:07 GMT -5
I didn't say BW agrees with me ..I just "coined his phrase" is all. OK. Here comes a grammar lesson or some kind of writing lesson. This is what you said: "Just like Bob Williston just said essentiallly you're going to make yourself pretty miserable dmmich if you keep being so sensitive to every little word others sa"
This would have made it more accurate:
"Just like Bob Williston might say, - essentially you're going to make yourself pretty miserable dmmich if you keep being so sensitive to every little word others say. "
I work for a living dmmich,and I type every word from an android phone and often have to go back and make corrections.I'm not writing a thesis or some type of creative essay on,here dmmich, so I just get the idea out there. I don't have time to try to make my writings perfect ... by the way I've found some mistakes in your writings too, but out of kindness, politeness, and genuine respect for my elders I don't correct you nor imply that you are STUPID!!! As you so often do yo others.I have nothing else to say to you really except that I'm glad to hear that your daughter learned to fly an airplane and soloed. I earned the private pilot certificate at age 19 while I was in the army, and owned a Piper Colt for 12 years. I will say at your age I'd be more concerned about my own soul than trying to correct other's grammar and english compositions ... because people don't die. You can't really kill yourself. You can kill the breathing human body, but your 'self' ... your soul ... your spirit lives right on forever. Think of the rich man in the Bible who bragged about all he had and made fun of GOD then died the same day and right before he died GOD said to him " ... thou FOOL now your soul I require of thee this very night ..!" I would think a person having a word or two out of place impromptu at wit means NOTHING compared to saying there's no GOD. I'd be ohhhh so careful ... ohhh so careful about that.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2018 19:54:50 GMT -5
OK. Here comes a grammar lesson or some kind of writing lesson. This is what you said: "Just like Bob Williston just said essentiallly you're going to make yourself pretty miserable dmmich if you keep being so sensitive to every little word others sa"
This would have made it more accurate:
"Just like Bob Williston might say, - essentially you're going to make yourself pretty miserable dmmich if you keep being so sensitive to every little word others say. "
I work for a living dmmich,and I type every word from an android phone and often have to go back and make corrections.I'm not writing a thesis or some type of creative essay on,here dmmich, so I just get the idea out there. I don't have time to try to make my writings perfect ... by the way I've found some mistakes in your writings too, but out of kindness, politeness, and genuine respect for my elders I don't correct you nor imply that you are STUPID!!! As you so often do yo others.I have nothing else to say to you really except that I'm glad to here that your daughter learned to fly an airplane and soloed. I earned the private pilot certificate at age 19 while I was in the army, and owned a Piper Colt for 12 years. I will say at your age I'd be more concerned about my own soul than trying to correct other's grammar and english compositions ... because people don't die. You can't really kill yourself. You can kill the breathing human body, but your 'self' ... your soul ... your spirit lives right on forever. Think of the rich man in the Bible who bragged about all he had and madecfun of GOD then died the same day and right before he died GOD said to him " ... thou FOOL now your soul I require of thee this very night ..!" I would think a person having a word or two out of place impromptu at wit means NOTHING compared to saying there's no GOD. I'd be ohhhh so careful ... ohhh so careful about that. the grammer police appear when they have nothing constructive to say or have lost the argument....
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Post by dmmichgood on Nov 7, 2018 0:13:11 GMT -5
Critical Thinking is a process by which one can come to a reasonable conclusion.
Critical Thinking isn't something one can give a "right" to, -as you said about what you thought my problem was , -"not giving critical thinking rights to others."
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_thinking from wiki Critical thinking is the objective analysis of facts to form a judgment.[1]
The subject is complex, and several different definitions exist, which generally include the rational, skeptical, unbiased analysis, or evaluation of factual evidence. Critical thinking is self-directed, self-disciplined, self-monitored, and self-corrective thinking.
It presupposed assent to rigorous standards of excellence and mindful command to their use. It entails effective communication and problem-solving abilities, as well as a commitment to overcome our native egocentrism[2][3] and sociocentrism.
PS: I am not "riled" but beliefs in god has caused a lot of unnecessary pain & suffering.
You're cloaking every person who is a believer as someone who causes unnecessary pain and suffering. You never grant that we have the brains to do"critical thinking" and arrive at "reasonable" information. Just because we're believers we just don't have the intelligence that you so glorify that you have. This is why I've said many times before you purposefully denigrate us as being "stupid" just because we believe in God. Then you turn around and say no I don't say you're stupid. You have to know that there are many ways of saying that someone is stupid and you do it with the bragging about you have "critical thinking" and believers don't. We come up with a different knowledge about God then you do, but I think it's in our rights to do that. We use critical thinking from our experiences that lead us to come to the critical outcome that we know there is a God for we have had dealings with him, his Son and his Holy Spirit. STR, -whenever I clarify a word or phrase like "Critical Thinking" -you always respond the same way. You start accusing me of calling you ""stupid" which I never have.
I am NOT "bragging" about anything. "Critical thinking is the objective analysis of facts to form a judgment"
JUST IS WHAT IT IS!!
One either uses it or they don't!
I am not the one saying that every believer causes "pain and suffering. More often they are just as much the victim of "pain and suffering" as they are of perpetrating it.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Nov 7, 2018 0:38:47 GMT -5
So he prayed all night. Boy am I glad I never went to one of his meetings. Couldn't handle the long winded preachers.
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Post by dmmichgood on Nov 7, 2018 2:08:00 GMT -5
OK. Here comes a grammar lesson or some kind of writing lesson. This is what you said: "Just like Bob Williston just said essentiallly you're going to make yourself pretty miserable dmmich if you keep being so sensitive to every little word others sa"
This would have made it more accurate:
"Just like Bob Williston might say, - essentially you're going to make yourself pretty miserable dmmich if you keep being so sensitive to every little word others say. "
I work for a living dmmich,and I type every word from an android phone and often have to go back and make corrections.I'm not writing a thesis or some type of creative essay on,here dmmich, so I just get the idea out there. I don't have time to try to make my writings perfect ... by the way I've found some mistakes in your writings too, but out of kindness, politeness, and genuine respect for my elders I don't correct you nor imply that you are STUPID!!! As you so often do yo others. It wasn't so much about grammar but rather about writing in such a way that your meaning is clear. It isn't nearly as easy to write as the reader believes it to be.
I have had classes & been in a writers group that critiqued each others writing. I haven't had a lot published but a few things, -some poetry, -some short stories; but not the BIG one yet, -a novel. I have one started but doubt I will ever finish it. I write too much here!
Well, if you to not call my attention to my mistakes but how will I learn if you don't show me may mistakes? You can start right now.
I would appreciate it if you checked my quotes & found all the places where I have called you and others "STUPID," -as you said that I did, -so that I can correct them.
Thank you, jectmech.
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Post by xna on Nov 9, 2018 14:07:41 GMT -5
I believe there are 14 places in the Bible that tell that Jesus prayed all night.
I wonder what one would pray about all night long? Would it be a long list of requests, or repeating the same thing over and over like a chant?
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Post by jetmech on Nov 9, 2018 23:06:09 GMT -5
Bible says Jesus prayed all night and that he sweat drops of blood I believe the night before he was crucified. I've never prayed all night and I sure have never prayed hard enough to sweat drops of blood. I don't know how to pray hard enough to even sweat at all let alone sweat drops of blood.
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