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Post by dmmichgood on Mar 5, 2020 1:31:18 GMT -5
The Greek word logos is from the oldest of the Greek Symbolic concepts that was useful in communication. Aristotle sought to define it as such (as per thought) If we wish to decry him of his effort in defining that should be of interesting note, as rarely do We Americans decry Webster’s original even as we Add additional definitions to such words? Carry on , ! 🙂 Thanks So then , if you wish to be able to put your own "concepts" into "useful in communication," -could you please state them in sentences?
Trying to work through your posts is difficult.
Is this what you meant in your post?
"The Greek word logos is from the oldest of the Greek symbolic concepts that was useful in communication.
Aristotle sought to define it as such (as per thought)
If we wish to decry him of his effort in defining that should be of interesting note, -as rarely do, -we Americans decry Webster’s original even as we add additional definitions to such words? "
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Post by dmmichgood on Mar 5, 2020 1:46:25 GMT -5
Ok, prove it.. not enough room or time to type them all out...its gonna takes some logic and some faith on your part... Sorry, wally; -logic and faith are in opposition to one another.
Logic is never a matter of faith.
Logic is something by which things or facts can be proved true or false.
It is based on common sense while faith is kind of belief which can not be proved.
Anybody can be influenced by giving proper logic on any aspect but not by faith.
Because every one has his/her own faith. Quora www.quora.com/Is-logic-a-faith
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2020 1:47:38 GMT -5
not enough room or time to type them all out...its gonna takes some logic and some faith on your part... Sorry, wally; -logic and faith are in opposition to one another.
Logic is never a matter of faith.
Logic is something by which things or facts can be proved true or false.
It is based on common sense while faith is kind of belief which can not be proved.
Anybody can be influenced by giving proper logic on any aspect but not by faith.
Because every one has his/her own faith. Quora www.quora.com/Is-logic-a-faithlike i told ant try ID on for size...
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Post by dmmichgood on Mar 5, 2020 2:26:39 GMT -5
Sorry, wally; -logic and faith are in opposition to one another.
Logic is never a matter of faith.
Logic is something by which things or facts can be proved true or false.
It is based on common sense while Logic is never a matter of faith. Logic is something by which things or facts can be proved true or false. It is based on common sense while faith is kind of belief which can not be proved. Anybody can be influenced by giving proper logic on any aspect but not by faith. Because every one has his/her own faith.
Is logic a faith? - Quora
www.quora.com/Is-logic-a-faith Anybody can be influenced by giving proper logic on any aspect but not by faith.
Because every one has his/her own faith. Quora www.quora.com/Is-logic-a-faith like i told ant try ID on for size... Wally, - I think in the state of mind that you are in at present, -you will never be able to see the difference between "logic" & "faith!"
Logic is something by which things or facts can be proved true or false.
You can use logic, not only "tell" someone that according to gravity that if they jump out of a 12 th floor window that they will fall to the ground and you can prove it to them by showing them what happens when you throw even a small ball out of the same window.
ANYONE can see that & understand it.
On the other hand with faith you can only tell them something will happen, but you cannot "show" them by any observable fact that it will happen!
So what happens? All people can see how logical it is to believe in the logic of what will happen with when they fall out of a 12th floor window.
If you use faith to try to convince them without being able to show them, -they can & do have many, many different views.
ex; the multiple religious views in the world today.
the difference between logic & faith is just that simple.
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Post by ant_rotten on Mar 5, 2020 2:51:19 GMT -5
I don’t believe ”faith” can be used in a conversation about proof.. its called ID try it.... Nice try though..
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Post by 1chinesewhispers on Mar 5, 2020 4:54:47 GMT -5
No one wants to die . Not on my bucket list !
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2020 4:59:40 GMT -5
No one wants to die . Not on my bucket list ! true and if we're blessed time may be running out for us all and we will all be changed in a a twinkling of an eye with Christs return...if it is still a great distance away though i would just prefer to go to sleep and not wake up...
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Post by So then on Mar 5, 2020 5:13:24 GMT -5
2"]Basically haphazardness occurs when we cannot
Predict the procedures!
Which is the premise of evolution, excluding our
Inherent DNA which gives us an expectation, based
On haphazard procedures that happen to contain
Some “questionable” procedures . ?? Hhuhh??
First you say the whole ball of wax is haphazard,
The you “bait and switch” the paradigm to isolate
Procedures that must belong to the mutant haphazard family?
What senseless illogical illogicalness are “so called”
Science teachers feeding the public school students??
Garbage in// Garbage out!! Sad to say , very sad to experience!
Hmmmm.
It’s not too late though
]Thankfully
Repeating the analysis that science try’s to disagree with
A logical paradigm , particularly the evolution paradigm
Evolution is Anti-logical , (they prefer haphazard events) ,and evolutionists pride themselves on This falsehood
Doesn’t that seem quite illogical to us logicians? 😉
Thanks
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Post by So then on Mar 5, 2020 5:28:09 GMT -5
Perfect science has to consider All evidence/facts and
Weigh them all out and give the right analysis/explanation
Of the evidence, Without Prejudice!!!
Since we humans cannot access with perfect certainty
That we are in possession of the perfect judgment,
We do the BEST that we can. , trusting that our
Personal analysis will see us through the “thick and thin”
A good advocate for the human intelligence, can
greatly help us to have a significant amount of Faith
that is the substance of things that we really really Hope ,
And yet it is also the evidence of the things we do not yet see.
(Paraphrasing Hebrews 11:1 😉)
Thanks
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Post by Faith in on Mar 5, 2020 5:44:11 GMT -5
yes. We have to be careful WHAT we put our Faith In!!! (Of course)
putting good good faith in a bad apple is not a good idea!
Thanks
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Post by So then on Mar 5, 2020 6:04:30 GMT -5
the biggest mistake we can make is
to underestimate: Faith, Hope, and charity
(and the greatest of these is Charity) ICor. 13
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Post by ant_rotten on Mar 5, 2020 6:07:15 GMT -5
the biggest mistake we can make is to underestimate: Faith, Hope, and charity (and the greatest of these is Charity) ICor. 13 The biggest mistake we could also make is to underestimate modern science..
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Post by So then on Mar 5, 2020 9:48:23 GMT -5
the biggest mistake we can make is to underestimate: Faith, Hope, and charity (and the greatest of these is Charity) ICor. 13 The biggest mistake we could also make is to underestimate modern science.. the quest for modern science should be to realize the only real science , needs to be done perfectly or it may contain flawed results. imo
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Post by So then on Mar 5, 2020 23:49:44 GMT -5
Would perfect science prove that we are unable to
Preform science , to perfection.
We do need all the evidence and it’s proper interpretation
Not just a biased subset of it .
Much science is “biased”
IMO
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Post by so then on Mar 6, 2020 6:47:05 GMT -5
So, do those portending evolution , accept
a simple transition to life?
At what point did/ the creation of an evolutionist
concept of intentionality spring forth??
With that in mind, was intentionality inherited
by the properties possessed by the “matter”
from which it arose?
Does it seem logical that there was an intervention
esential to convert matter to life? We can call this the “spark of life”, , yet we
can consider that this spark was born from
Eternity, as we know of nothing that can create
the “spark” that is needed, unless it be in essense
equal to the capacity to possess life itself,
We can consider this concept “the Creator “, imo
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Post by Teddy on Oct 23, 2020 6:20:44 GMT -5
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Post by To Teddy on Oct 25, 2020 16:15:58 GMT -5
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Post by So then on Oct 26, 2020 18:33:31 GMT -5
This is what I love about my faith ::
I do not have any doubting that we were Created by our Creator.
(any faith of mine is not compatible with a slightly tainted / questioning Of that which is deemed Faith-Worthiness Belief
I may have a tainted belief in some “system” , yet any such “system “ can be put to a Faith challenge ( and that separates the FaithFul from the Faith-Deprived)
IMO
Thanks
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Post by BobWilliston on Oct 26, 2020 18:39:34 GMT -5
This is what I love about my faith :: I do not have any doubting that we were Created by our Creator. (any faith of mine is not compatible with a slightly tainted / questioning Of that which is deemed Faith-Worthiness Belief I may have a tainted belief in some “system” , yet any such “system “ can be put to a Faith challenge ( and that separates the FaithFul from the Faith-Deprived) IMO Thanks Perfect in its non-specificity.
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Post by So then on Oct 26, 2020 18:57:04 GMT -5
If the parents of Isaac were promised a child (Isaac) To be born when the parents were well past the age of baring, certainly God could do another miracle of
restoring life to the one that was so promised to Proliferate offspring for hundreds of generations, and thousand billions of descendants?
No question intended.
Thanks
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Post by So then on Oct 26, 2020 18:59:44 GMT -5
This is what I love about my faith :: I do not have any doubting that we were Created by our Creator. (any faith of mine is not compatible with a slightly tainted / questioning Of that which is deemed Faith-Worthiness Belief I may have a tainted belief in some “system” , yet any such “system “ can be put to a Faith challenge ( and that separates the FaithFul from the Faith-Deprived) IMO Thanks Perfect in its non-specificity. Only tainted “science “ deserves that label . 😉
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Post by So then on Oct 26, 2020 19:07:36 GMT -5
This is what I love about my faith :: I do not have any doubting that we were Created by our Creator. (any faith of mine is not compatible with a slightly tainted / questioning Of that which is deemed Faith-Worthiness Belief I may have a tainted belief in some “system” , yet any such “system “ can be put to a Faith challenge ( and that separates the FaithFul from the Faith-Deprived) IMO Thanks Perfect in its non-specificity. I believe I was quite specific in what I put my Faith in, as for “non-specifity” , can we venture what is Faith-worthy, in your specific world? 🙂
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Post by BobWilliston on Oct 26, 2020 20:51:42 GMT -5
Perfect in its non-specificity. I believe I was quite specific in what I put my Faith in, as for “non-specifity” , can we venture what is Faith-worthy, in your specific world? 🙂 You haven't said what it is. That's non-specific. I may just agree with you if you named it.
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Post by So then on Oct 27, 2020 2:28:58 GMT -5
This is what I love about my faith :: I do not have any doubting that we were Created by our Creator. (any faith of mine is not compatible with a slightly tainted / questioning Of that which is deemed Faith-Worthiness Belief I may have a tainted belief in some “system” , yet any such “system “ can be put to a Faith challenge ( and that separates the FaithFul from the Faith-Deprived) IMO Thanks Perfect in its non-specificity. Perfect in believing we were created by our Creator. if enumerating the numerous specific reasons are implied by defining faith to imply that implication, also? 😉 thank you
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Post by BobWilliston on Oct 27, 2020 16:00:38 GMT -5
Perfect in its non-specificity. Perfect in believing we were created by our Creator. if enumerating the numerous specific reasons are implied by defining faith to imply that implication, also? 😉 thank you I trust your generic credo at its full worth and limitations.
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Post by So then on Oct 28, 2020 1:02:38 GMT -5
Perfect in believing we were created by our Creator. if enumerating the numerous specific reasons are implied by defining faith to imply that implication, also? 😉 thank you I trust your generic credo at its full worth and limitations. I have faith in the limits of each and every confession of each faith Limits may bound some faiths , and expand others, as I understand it , Often 2 people can share like-kind faiths, even though their confirmed proofs may be short? And yet I can share a faith, and be completed satisfied, just as We read that Abraham’s faith was flawless, and for very good reasons, that only he comprehended.... as stated : “He believed God, (had faith in)” and that was counted/considered as being a “friend of God”. 🙂
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Post by BobWilliston on Oct 28, 2020 2:24:20 GMT -5
I trust your generic credo at its full worth and limitations. I have faith in the limits of each and every confession of each faith Limits may bound some faiths , and expand others, as I understand it , Often 2 people can share like-kind faiths, even though their confirmed proofs may be short? And yet I can share a faith, and be completed satisfied, just as We read that Abraham’s faith was flawless, and for very good reasons, that only he comprehended.... as stated : “He believed God, (had faith in)” and that was counted/considered as being a “friend of God”. 🙂 Why do you suppose he picked THAT god?
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Post by dmmichgood on Oct 28, 2020 2:36:47 GMT -5
the biggest mistake we can make is to underestimate: Faith, Hope, and charity (and the greatest of these is Charity) ICor. 13 the biggest mistake we can make is to underestimate: Faith, Hope, and charity (and the greatest of these is Charity) ICor. 13 Note to: Whoever , -I will just call you that since yo yourself don't seem to know who you are.
Science is the study of the physical and natural world and that physical and natural world is NOT going change itself in order to suit you or anyone else's fanciful ideas that are remote from reality and only exist to start with because of the people's inability to face reality.
In fact, -it is that inability to face reality which has caused people to "create" their own ideas of "Faith or Hope &Charity.
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