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Post by rational on Dec 18, 2015 0:49:51 GMT -5
Obviously ideology has always impacted the evolution of the human race, today more than ever. Please provide a single example.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2015 1:53:15 GMT -5
Obviously ideology has always impacted the evolution of the human race, today more than ever. Please provide a single example. if I am understanding ideology correctly some of the examples would be religions themselves Christianity, Judaism, Islam, Hinduism...etc..etc..have all affected our current path of "evolution"...
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Post by Lee on Dec 18, 2015 9:08:00 GMT -5
All ideas affect courtship and mating. Seems basic to me.
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Post by rational on Dec 18, 2015 10:20:23 GMT -5
Please provide a single example. if I am understanding ideology correctly some of the examples would be religions themselves Christianity, Judaism, Islam, Hinduism...etc..etc..have all affected our current path of "evolution"... And what evolutionary changes have these religions made on human evolution? I don't see people developing genetically modified padded knees to provide comfort during kneeling in prayer. Of course, religions really haven't been around long enough to have much of an impact on evolution.
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Post by rational on Dec 18, 2015 10:21:58 GMT -5
All ideas affect courtship and mating. Seems basic to me. Name a specific one that has caused evolutionary change. Seems basic but I don't see examples.
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Post by Lee on Dec 18, 2015 21:10:55 GMT -5
The point is not in dispute to me. You're welcome to provide your own example.
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Post by dmmichgood on Dec 18, 2015 22:54:28 GMT -5
Hello Minnesota, I do believe in God. I don't believe the bible is a fairytale, a joke book or anything else that it's made out to be here, but I believe it's written at the hands of people inspired by the holy spirit. So for that reason, I believe it to be true because to me God is a living God. I think you believe in God by the way you've written your post, so then I'm taking it you believe the bible also? Many say that the laws were made null and void by Jesus, but Jesus said that he came to fulfill the laws not destroy them. So I do believe that according to the bible, it is wrong for either a man or woman to sleep with the same sex, it says so in both new and old testaments. I believe that the bible is clear in this. But, as you rightly say, we have all sinned and we all come short glory of God, but once we know in our hearts its wrong then for me I believe i should stop the act. I believe we should listen to our own conscience. As to me, this is God guiding us individually. I also think it's wrong to judge or persecute another. To judge is Gods job, not any human being, we have sinful hearts and a fleshly mind, we have all sinned and not one person can call another a sinner and look down in them when they sin also. Although I believe judging does start here. And God is judging us daily by what we do when we know we are sinning. I myself am a sinner, i have committed adultery. And married again. It's brought up many times in our meeting about how wrong it is to do this, and now after many years of worrying, I leave it in Gods hands. Only he knows my heart, and what I've been through, but for whatever reason I did this, I can't say it's Ok to do so, because I know it's a sin before God. So I just leave it with him. I noticed someone posted here about having 2 coats and giving one to another in need. And mocking the bible. But realistically, if I did have 2 coats, and did see someone in need, I believe that by God I should share what I have with them, right down to a bag of sugar. And I don't care about what they've done in their life, I'm to help regardless. If someone needed help, I wouldn't ask if they are gay or not, I'd just help them. I also believe that it's a sin to persecute people. And God loves us all the same, he just wants us all back. So I believe it's right to care for all, and show love, compassion and mercy to everyone we come across. I believe that there will be many people in heaven that others thought wouldn't be there. Like I'm sure many thought of with the thief on the cross. So I feel we must be very careful when we start to judge people in our hearts. Because only God knows their hearts. excerpts from your post, Maryhig. "So I do believe that according to the bible, it is wrong for either a man or woman to sleep with the same sex, it says so in both new and old testaments. I believe that the bible is clear in this. But, as you rightly say, we have all sinned and we all come short glory of God, once we know in our hearts its wrong then for me I believe i should stop the act. I believe we should listen to our own conscience. As to me, this is God guiding us individually.
"I myself am a sinner, i have committed adultery. And married again. It's brought up many times in our meeting about how wrong it is to do this, and now after many years of worrying, I leave it in Gods hands. Only he knows my heart, and what I've been through, but for whatever reason I did this, I can't say it's Ok to do so, because I know it's a sin before God. So I just leave it with him.
Then according to what you believe that "it is wrong for either a man or woman to sleep with the same sex," but but once they know in their hearts its wrong then "they should stop the act."
You also say that you "have committed adultery because you have married again,' am I to presume you have taken your own advise & "stopped the act?"
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Post by dmmichgood on Dec 18, 2015 22:57:59 GMT -5
Please provide a single example. if I am understanding ideology correctly some of the examples would be religions themselves Christianity, Judaism, Islam, Hinduism...etc..etc..have all affected our current path of "evolution"... Are you talking about the biological "evolution" of the species?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2015 23:13:10 GMT -5
if I am understanding ideology correctly some of the examples would be religions themselves Christianity, Judaism, Islam, Hinduism...etc..etc..have all affected our current path of "evolution"... Are you talking about the biological "evolution" of the species?
more the psychological evolution which causes us to act and react in different ways
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Post by rational on Dec 19, 2015 11:47:47 GMT -5
The point is not in dispute to me. You're welcome to provide your own example. I would but I do not believe there is an example. That is why I asked for your help in understand what you considered to be a basic point regarding the evolution of humans. But if it is too much effort it is ok.
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Post by Lee on Dec 20, 2015 2:16:36 GMT -5
"I do not believe there is an example."
So the reproductive behavior of homo sapiens is entirely the product of Eros. Interesting
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Post by dmmichgood on Dec 20, 2015 3:19:24 GMT -5
"I do not believe there is an example." So the reproductive behavior of homo sapiens is entirely the product of Eros. Interesting Lee, It was you who made the statement, "Obviously ideology has always impacted the evolution of the human race, today more than ever."
If it is so "obvious" surely you can give an example of just how that has worked instead of doing this little tap dance around in order to avoid backing up your claim.
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Post by Lee on Dec 20, 2015 3:28:52 GMT -5
So you too, believe the reproductive behavior of homo sapiens is entirely due to Eros. Interesting
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Post by rational on Dec 21, 2015 10:44:55 GMT -5
"I do not believe there is an example." So the reproductive behavior of homo sapiens is entirely the product of Eros. Interesting No, it is a biological imperative. Keeps the human race going. (I an assuming you were using the concept of Eros - love.)
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