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Post by dmmichgood on Jun 26, 2015 22:27:03 GMT -5
Once again, gays don't reproduce. The unique, life-giving union of man and woman is the primary thing to be celebrated about marriage. High society is far to narcissistic to consider it today, but originally, reproduction was thought to be a gift of God. "Reproduction?" -and here I thought it was the sexual act that was thought to be "a gift of God."
Guess you learn something new every day.
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Post by dmmichgood on Jun 26, 2015 22:40:41 GMT -5
God's?I am getting terribly confused! I thought you were talking about Gene's wedding. Is God getting married? Well HE didn't invite me! Nobody ever tells me anything!
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Post by dmmichgood on Jun 26, 2015 22:48:11 GMT -5
Whoa! Lee, "gays don't reproduce?"
Let's back up a bit to Gene's post.
"A 60-year old gay friend sent me a text: "Should David (his 38-yr. old gay son) and I go get married real quick to be the first father and son to do so, just so we can p**s off the right?"
"I responded: "I think you should marry both David and Katie (his 36-year old straight daughter) at the same time--and maybe your cat, too--; you might as well go for the slippery slope trifecta!"
Now, I am scratching my head a bit but if I have figured that out properly, Gene's friend was gay, yet he had a son & an daughter. Right ?
You're making my point: not in the context of a vital, hetero-sexual marriage. Making your point?
I thought your point was "gays don't reproduce?"
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Post by dmmichgood on Jun 26, 2015 22:57:31 GMT -5
LOL well I heard today that the Supreme Court of the US rules in favor of same-sex Marriage! That is awesome. I laughed though when I heard people were going to move to Canada because of the ruling. I imagine they will have to turn around and head somewhere else once they figure out we've had same sex marriage in Canada for some time now, and, it's legal! a sad day for my country, just another sign o' the times... I wonder if you felt it was also a "sad day for my country" when mixed marriages between white & black people was found to be unconstitutional.
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Post by Lee on Jun 26, 2015 23:01:45 GMT -5
You're making my point: not in the context of a vital, hetero-sexual marriage. Making your point?
I thought your point was "gays don't reproduce?"
Not in vital marriages.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2015 23:02:17 GMT -5
a sad day for my country, just another sign o' the times... I wonder if you felt it was also a "sad day for my country" when mixed marriages between white & black people was found to be unconstitutional. nope...and I think you mean it was the BAN that was unconstitutional
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Post by faune on Jun 26, 2015 23:15:52 GMT -5
Wally ~ I just started a new thread today on this Supreme Court decision and what it entails and why it was passed. Here is an excerpt from the same article. However, the broader question placed to the Court was declined which involved answering whether there is a constitutional right to gay marriage. I suspect that will be another issue tackled on another day? "In his opinion, Kennedy also addressed the argument that voters should be allowed to decide gay marriage. "Of course, the Constitution contemplates that democracy is the appropriate process for change, so long as that process does not abridge fundamental rights," he wrote. Kennedy identified four principles that demonstrate why same-sex couples should have the right to marry.
1. The right to "personal choice regarding marriage is inherent in the concept of individual autonomy." 2. "The right to marry is fundamental because it supports a two-person union unlike any other in its importance to the committed individuals." 3. The right to marry "safeguards children and families and thus draws meaning from related rights of childrearing, procreation, and education." 4. Marriage is a "keystone of the nation's social order." This was the second time America's high court took up same-sex marriage. The first time, in June 2013, Kennedy wrote the majority opinion striking down a key provision of the Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA), in a ruling that allowed the US government to recognize same-sex marriages in states where they were already legal. But the court declined to rule on the broader question about gay marriage: Is there a constitutional right to gay marriage?
Read more: www.businessinsider.com/supreme-court-gay-marriage-ruling-2015-6#ixzz3eESo7cHK
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Post by dmmichgood on Jun 26, 2015 23:21:06 GMT -5
Making your point?
I thought your point was "gays don't reproduce?"
Not in vital marriages. Please describe vital marriages.
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Post by BobWilliston on Jun 26, 2015 23:21:17 GMT -5
LOL well I heard today that the Supreme Court of the US rules in favor of same-sex Marriage! That is awesome. I laughed though when I heard people were going to move to Canada because of the ruling. I imagine they will have to turn around and head somewhere else once they figure out we've had same sex marriage in Canada for some time now, and, it's legal! A 60-year old gay friend sent me a text: "Should David (his 38-yr. old gay son) and I go get married real quick to be the first father and son to do so, just so we can p**s off the right?" I responded: "I think you should marry both David and Katie (his 36-year old straight daughter) at the same time--and maybe your cat, too--; you might as well go for the slippery slope trifecta!" Crazy people -- like the Supreme Court made it mandatory for everyone to have a gay marriage. I remember when the Supreme Court decided that interracial marriage should not be banned -- oh how that has damaged family life in America. How will we ever explain to our grandchildren that they're British Isles, Balkan Peninsula, African, Chinese, Jewish, Indian, American Indian, Hungarian, Argentinian? No one has a clue what they are or where they're from or what they believe. What damage would a couple of gay marriages do to a family that's already that screwed up? Heck, maybe the gay ones are already married and no one's told me yet. The home cooking's good, though. Last time I went out for Chinese food with 2 of my brothers, among the 5 of us we spoke 5 languages, no 2 of us had the same marriage history, one ordered in Mandarin, and another ordered kosher. What's the problem?
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Post by dmmichgood on Jun 26, 2015 23:26:53 GMT -5
I wonder if you felt it was also a "sad day for my country" when mixed marriages between white & black people was found to be unconstitutional. nope...and I think you mean it was the BAN that was unconstitutional Did you think it was "sad day for my country" when the Ban was lifted on mixed marriages between white & black people?
Just a "nope" doesn't quite do it.
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Post by BobWilliston on Jun 26, 2015 23:30:18 GMT -5
Las Vegas Metro Police are tonight investigating a threat made against the GLBT Center by a local religious group. Suppose they're Muslims?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2015 23:33:43 GMT -5
nope...and I think you mean it was the BAN that was unconstitutional Did you think it was "sad day for my country" when the Ban was lifted on mixed marriages between white & black people?
Just a "nope" doesn't quite do it.
what part of "nope" don't you get?
BTW I was 2 years old when they removed the ban I probably could have cared less...food and sleep and playtime were my bigger priorities
for those of you that have a problem with "nope": no it was not a sad day for my country
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Post by BobWilliston on Jun 26, 2015 23:34:17 GMT -5
Please describe vital marriages. Vital marriages are the ones where the only thing excites the guy is that he's about to reproduce with God's smile and approval.
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Post by BobWilliston on Jun 26, 2015 23:35:49 GMT -5
Did you think it was "sad day for my country" when the Ban was lifted on mixed marriages between white & black people?
Just a "nope" doesn't quite do it.
what part of "nope" don't you get?
BTW I was 2 years old when they removed the ban I probably could have cared less...food and sleep and playtime were my bigger priorities
for those of you that have a problem with "nope": no it was not a sad day for my country
A lot of people thought it was a sad day -- including 2x2s.
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Post by rational on Jun 26, 2015 23:38:38 GMT -5
High society is far to narcissistic to consider it today, but originally, reproduction was thought to be a gift of God. People thought Zeus hurled lightening bolts. People thought Poseidon caused earthquakes. And then people learned the truth.
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Post by rational on Jun 26, 2015 23:42:06 GMT -5
Once again, gays don't reproduce. This is your issue? Couples that do not reproduce? Why is this a concern to you? Is there a shortage of children?
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Post by Lee on Jun 27, 2015 0:11:21 GMT -5
There's always been a shortage of children born to vital marriages.
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Post by Lee on Jun 27, 2015 0:12:30 GMT -5
High society is far to narcissistic to consider it today, but originally, reproduction was thought to be a gift of God. People thought Zeus hurled lightening bolts. People thought Poseidon caused earthquakes. And then people learned the truth. That everything happens because of nothing? How is that a case of learning anything?
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Post by Lee on Jun 27, 2015 0:15:50 GMT -5
Please describe vital marriages. Vital marriages are the ones where the only thing excites the guy is that he's about to reproduce with God's smile and approval. Speak for yourself. Vital marriages are those that are; its not in question of whether they were blessed of God.
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Post by dmmichgood on Jun 27, 2015 0:15:44 GMT -5
Did you think it was "sad day for my country" when the Ban was lifted on mixed marriages between white & black people?
Just a "nope" doesn't quite do it.
what part of "nope" don't you get?
BTW I was 2 years old when they removed the ban I probably could have cared less...food and sleep and playtime were my bigger priorities
for those of you that have a problem with "nope": no it was not a sad day for my country
Actually, that is about the age that I figured you might, -hadn't outgrown your nappies yet.
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Post by Lee on Jun 27, 2015 0:19:30 GMT -5
Las Vegas Metro Police are tonight investigating a threat made against the GLBT Center by a local religious group. Suppose they're Muslims? Could be. I hit it off once with a progressive Muslim doctor. Her son and mine were in band and we were hitching a ride to an event with the liberal director and her husband. 'Should gays be allowed to marry?', the conversation went. "Oh no," she replied.
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Post by dmmichgood on Jun 27, 2015 0:37:34 GMT -5
There's always been a shortage of children born to vital marriages. Then, are you saying that our grandparents who had families of anywhere from 10-15 children, that was a shortage of children or that those weren't "vital" marriages?I think my grand-pappy might have took after you with his musket for saying somethin' like that!
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Post by Lee on Jun 27, 2015 0:39:38 GMT -5
A vital marriage is defined by its ability to procure children as well as every other aspect of happiness: namely, life itself.
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Post by dmmichgood on Jun 27, 2015 0:43:38 GMT -5
Las Vegas Metro Police are tonight investigating a threat made against the GLBT Center by a local religious group. Suppose they're Muslims? Could be. I hit it off once with a progressive Muslim doctor. Her son and mine were in band and we were hitching a ride to an event with the liberal director and her husband. 'Should gays be allowed to marry?', the conversation went. "Oh no," she replied. How did you ascertain what else she believed that met your standards for being liberal?
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Post by dmmichgood on Jun 27, 2015 0:49:21 GMT -5
A vital marriage is defined by its ability to procure children as well as every other aspect of happiness: namely, life itself. Good Grief! I thought that was illegal!Child Procurement Law & Legal Definition
"Child Procurement is the act of intentional giving, transporting, providing, or making available or offering to give, transport, provide, or make available a child under the age of 16 for the purpose of any lewd or lascivious act. Causing, inducing, or persuading a child under the age of 16 to engage in any lewd or lascivious act with another person also amounts to child procurement."
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Post by Lee on Jun 27, 2015 0:53:04 GMT -5
Ha ha
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Post by Lee on Jun 27, 2015 0:53:26 GMT -5
Could be. I hit it off once with a progressive Muslim doctor. Her son and mine were in band and we were hitching a ride to an event with the liberal director and her husband. 'Should gays be allowed to marry?', the conversation went. "Oh no," she replied. How did you ascertain what else she believed that met your standards for being liberal?She was a doctor. She was an American immigrant. She blew off some of the traditional demands of her family. She was emancipated with respect to many of the ways Muslim women live their lives.
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Post by Roselyn T on Jun 27, 2015 1:02:33 GMT -5
A vital marriage is defined by its ability to procure children as well as every other aspect of happiness: namely, life itself. So where do people who are unable to have children fit in Lee ?
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