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Post by Lee on Jul 11, 2015 22:45:15 GMT -5
God's a big dude and we're obviously very small. Sometime if your health permits, go to a particularly dark region in your state and look at the Milky Way through binoculars and tell me we're not peripheral. Stick to the subject. If god makes such mistakes in how he "forms" some of the fetuses that he is so interested in, why could he not also make a mistake in how he forms their sexuality?
If "God is a such big dude and we're obviously very small," Why does HE hold us to such ridiculous standards that we have to follow in spite of HIS mistakes? Not celebrating gayness is not too hard to do and not too much to ask.
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Post by Lee on Jul 11, 2015 22:52:18 GMT -5
The lesbians could have taken their business elsewhere. The lesbians chose to discriminate against the bakers. You never answered my question."Would it be acceptable to you if they refused to bake a cake for two black people, two people in wheel chairs, two older who the bakery deemed to old to get married, or perhaps two people in the religion known as 2x2's or f&w's? "I don't know what the issue with black or ADA people would be. How does their existence imperil anyone's religious beliefs? With respect to cults and gays, no court should punish anyone for refusing to serve these intimately. Baking a cake might be appropriate but catering? Hell no!
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Post by rational on Jul 12, 2015 10:17:37 GMT -5
Had the bakers denied them service because they were black would you agree? Or if it were a mixed race couple? IMO public expressions of gayness is not a civil right. And that is why it is probably a good thing you are not making the rules! It wasn't a public expression that was in question. It was denying service. I noticed you did not bother to answer the questions.
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Post by matisse on Aug 20, 2015 16:57:20 GMT -5
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Post by maryhig on Aug 20, 2015 17:22:31 GMT -5
This is exactly what I mean about people looking good and holy on the outside and inside they're their heart is wrong and far from God. He's persecuting others yet himself hiding the disgusting things he's doing. They lick themselves clean whilst bringing up others faults. Jesus was so wise when he said Matthew 7 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye. God tells us to look at ourselves and not judge others for this exact reason. Because we have enough wrong in our own hearts without picking at other people. Yes people may do wrong. But when we see it we should talk and guide them in love and kindness. Not persecute them, and not in public as it seems he's been doing! This is exactly a case of, what you do comes back on you. You can't profess to know God and then live wrong and hide it. God is no fool. It will be made known! Also the person who wrote a comment, (the third one down on that page the one with popcorn in) isn't too nice either! How about thinking about his poor wife and three kids. Sometimes people amaze me!
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Post by snow on Aug 20, 2015 22:04:44 GMT -5
It just keeps piling up for him doesn't it.
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Post by dmmichgood on Aug 21, 2015 0:06:19 GMT -5
You never answered my question."Would it be acceptable to you if they refused to bake a cake for two black people, two people in wheel chairs, two older who the bakery deemed to old to get married, or perhaps two people in the religion known as 2x2's or f&w's? " I don't know what the issue with black or ADA people would be. How does their existence imperil anyone's religious beliefs? With respect to cults and gays, no court should punish anyone for refusing to serve these intimately. Baking a cake might be appropriate but catering? Hell no! If you have to ask the question of "How does their existence imperil anyone's religious beliefs?" it indicates that you don't know much about history.
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Post by Lee on Aug 23, 2015 22:32:30 GMT -5
Black people are people, whether some have felt otherwise. Gays have never struggled with the accusation they weren't people, only whether their behavior was legal and gainful. Big difference!
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Post by matisse on Aug 23, 2015 22:44:19 GMT -5
Black people are people, whether some have felt otherwise. Gays have never struggled with the accusation they weren't people, only whether their behavior was legal and gainful. Big difference! There certainly has been struggle. Gay people have been subject to lynching in a manner similar to black people. Gay people have also been put in asylums, lobotomized, castrated, incarcerated for being gay. I think it is safe to say that the line between some considering them people and not considering them people has been crossed.
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Post by Lee on Aug 23, 2015 22:52:05 GMT -5
Its never been an issue of whether they were human or not. Its always been a question over their behavior and spiritual condition.
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Post by Roselyn T on Aug 24, 2015 2:01:42 GMT -5
Its never been an issue of whether they were human or not. Its always been a question over their behavior and spiritual condition. So Lee you are in the position to question those things are you ? You can take the higher moral ground can you ?
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Post by snow on Aug 24, 2015 11:22:51 GMT -5
And, if people didn't believe in a God that supposedly condemns them there wouldn't be a problem. But that's the risk of thinking that ancient people trying to figure stuff out are an authority on everything.
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Post by Lee on Aug 25, 2015 0:48:12 GMT -5
Its never been an issue of whether they were human or not. Its always been a question over their behavior and spiritual condition. So Lee you are in the position to question those things are you ? You can take the higher moral ground can you ? Gender misdirection in a small percentage of people is as predictable as any other genetic aberration or disease. Such persons are completely entitled to come to terms with their lives in undisturbed privacy. Lusty heteros are the villains. Lusty hetero's seeking pleasure unnaturally. Historically their numbers made it necessary to criminalize the behavior.
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Post by Lee on Aug 25, 2015 0:51:31 GMT -5
And, if people didn't believe in a God that supposedly condemns them there wouldn't be a problem. But that's the risk of thinking that ancient people trying to figure stuff out are an authority on everything. Sinners are condemned by their consciences.
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