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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2015 12:49:54 GMT -5
Nathan, if it was real there would be media networks fighting each other to get hold of the photos and be the first to publish them. When did! Read the listeners went crazy! from Art Bell radio interview... read their emails. Hollow earth Facts or fiction?www.v-j-enterprises.com/byrdgson.htmlYes, I read the emails in that link. It appears the listeners weren't convinced either. Here's a quote from one of them: I listened to this "alleged" Harley Byrd character for nearly two hours, and my conclusion is that he's a fraud. He talks nonsense, makes all manner of bizarre claims about greys, sasquatch, Aryans, and other alien types, and assiduously commercializes the whole for profit. It has been stated by someone here in California that Harley Byrd is actually a Jewish huckster whose name ends in "itz," and merely poses as Byrd's grandson to sell these bogus diaries.
Another commenter wrote: "The bizarre behaviour of "Harley Byrd" - seems as though this fellow is going to be discredited in a very short time. He may take some people for suckers of course and make some cash."
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2015 13:30:32 GMT -5
The guy who wrote about Harley Byrd doesn't KNOW what the heck he is talking about.
Harley A. Bryd is NOT a fraud or Crazy! Harley is telling the truth... Let me guide you one step a time when Harley mentioned the earth is hollow earth, big foot, Aryan/blond ETs beings and other beings living in the hollow earth for thousands, millions of years....
Hollow earth facts or fiction?All planets are hollow as is the Sun, which is really a planet. There are civilizations in the the Earth' subterranean regions. ~~~ Pictures of many planets are Hollow! Mars, Jupiter, Titans, NOT just the earth and Venus. www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZnUC5je7hUFirst of all, I don't believe the earth even existed millions of years ago, hollow or not. That theory does not fit in with the creation as described in Genesis. Secondly, the link you provided claims that " complete understanding needs a fully opened mind, power of conception and spiritual abilities". Now if it was an actual geographical fact that the earth was hollow, that fact would be possible to prove without requiring 'a gullible fully opened mind and spiritual abilities.' Furthermore, this would be the subject of genuine scientific research, carried out by some reputable institute of learning, not just the subject of a poorly made clip on you-tube. Thirdly, there is already a post on this thread explaining why it is not possible for the earth to be hollow - have you read it?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2015 13:50:09 GMT -5
A meeting between David Icke and a senior member of British Intelligence. David asked him what was the biggest secret held by British Intelligence. The man replied that it was that the British Royal Family are shape-shifting reptilians! including the transcript of his taped interview with Princess Diana closest confidante, in which she relates Diana's awareness of the House of Windsors reptilian ancestry (Princess Diana referred to them as "the lizards"). David Icke has been successfully sued for libel, by a human rights lawyer who specialises in actions related to internet content. Maybe quoting David Icke on a public forum isn't such a good idea, considering that there isn't a single shred of evidence to back up his ridiculous claims.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2015 14:04:21 GMT -5
Secondly, the link you provided claims that " complete understanding needs a fully opened mind, power of conception and spiritual abilities". Now if it was an actual geographical fact that the earth was hollow, that fact would be possible to prove without requiring 'a gullible fully opened mind and spiritual abilities.' Furthermore, this would be the subject of genuine scientific research, carried out by some reputable institute of learning, not just the subject of a poorly made clip on you-tube. ~~ Yes, I have read most of them and I disagree... I have a US air force Col. gov't official who entered the hollow earth 6 times. He and his sister came from the Hollow earth themselves.So where is the proof that there are civilisations inside the earth? Where is the proof that your US air-force colonel existed?
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Post by rational on Jun 1, 2015 14:17:13 GMT -5
NathanB - I notice there is no mention of UFOs, German submarines, invasion, etc. that you have claimed in the past. Looking at the gallery of photographs from operation Highjump and the thousands of people involved it would seem like one of them would have talked about it. Off course they WOULDN'T because the people who wrote the article weren't there to see or know what had happened! In 1945 US knew about two "the Fuhrer convoy" U-boat/submarine traveled in and out Antartica surrendered to Argentina authority. Here is the Russian documents of the Highjump Operation, they mention about UFO, firefight with the UFO spacecraft, US lost a destroyer, 2 fighters were shot down with laser beam, a dozen sailors and officers were killed. The order came from the white house to destroy Nazi Antartica base but Admiral's fleet was defeated. An expedition reporter on the ship described what happened (10:26). ~~ The Russian document explores the historical mysteries of a Nazi secret base in Antarctica, the 1947 flying saucers attacked and destroyed most of Admiral Byrd's ill-fated 'Operation High Jump' expedition. www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwUpPwyyvLwCan you post a reference to these documents? The freedom of information act would have allowed them to be released. Odd no one who believes this BS hasn't requested a few documents to show to doubters and shut them up!
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Post by rational on Jun 1, 2015 14:33:43 GMT -5
So where is the proof that there are civilisations inside the earth? Where is the proof that your US air-force colonel existed? 2) Col. Bill F. Woodward and his sister Zuria childhood: 2008Here is a picture of Col. Bill F. Woodward. Read more here. Let the reader decide!
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Post by rational on Jun 1, 2015 14:35:14 GMT -5
Can you post a reference to these documents? The freedom of information act would have allowed them to be released. Odd no one who believes this BS hasn't requested a few documents to show to doubters and shut them up! The Russians gov't knows and talking about the Operation highjump publicly and openly... If the Russians gov't doesn't believe the Operation Highjump existed, they wouldn't have gone out of their way to made a documentary to teach others about it would they? I believe you're an unbeliever and talking too much BS yourself.So you have nothing, again, but a YouTube video of someone making unverified claims?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2015 15:05:02 GMT -5
So according to that link you posted, the earth will be hit by a devastating solar flare by about 2021 and we'll be evacuated to the centre of the earth by flying saucer. For more information on how to get there ourselves we'd have to buy his book ... Yeah, right.
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Post by rational on Jun 1, 2015 16:09:25 GMT -5
So according to that link you posted, the earth will be hit by a devastating solar flare by about 2021 and we'll be evacuated to the centre of the earth by flying saucer. For more information on how to get there ourselves we'd have to buy his book ... Yeah, right. You don't need a book - just start digging! Figuring out the gravity in a hollow sphere will be interesting. The center of gravity would be in the empty center of the sphere (according to some). If you jump you end up in the center. In any case you are surrounded by mass all of which is exerting a force on every other mass. Most likely case - a hollow earth would collapse on itself. I wonder where all the iron and other heavy metals went that help create earths magnetic field?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2015 16:28:48 GMT -5
Retired Colonel Billie Faye Woodard and twin sister, Zuria were born in our hollow earth, and delivered to outer earth on September 18, 1951. They were born with exceptional abilities. Billie can remember their parents talking to them as babies. Soon after their birth, their hollow earth parents told them they would not be living with them any longer. They were taken to Wichita Falls, Texas and put in a litter barrel garbage container in a park where a passing park attendant and a police officer heard them crying. They were retrieved and put in an orphanage and about 5 years later were adopted by a US Air Force Colonel Woodard, his wife and two sons. So you believe that a superior race of beings would send two babies to earth and deposit them in a garbage can in Texas? Why am I not surprised that you believe in the Loch Ness monster too? Is anything too far-fetched?
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Post by hberry on Jun 1, 2015 16:48:04 GMT -5
Retired Colonel Billie Faye Woodard and twin sister, Zuria were born in our hollow earth, and delivered to outer earth on September 18, 1951. They were born with exceptional abilities. Billie can remember their parents talking to them as babies. Soon after their birth, their hollow earth parents told them they would not be living with them any longer. They were taken to Wichita Falls, Texas and put in a litter barrel garbage container in a park where a passing park attendant and a police officer heard them crying. They were retrieved and put in an orphanage and about 5 years later were adopted by a US Air Force Colonel Woodard, his wife and two sons. So you believe that a superior race of beings would send two babies to earth and deposit them in a garbage can in Texas? Why am I not surprised that you believe in the Loch Ness monster too? Is anything too far-fetched? Hey, watch it with the Loch Ness comments....I want to meet Nessie some day
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Post by snow on Jun 1, 2015 17:32:02 GMT -5
Everyone has tried using facts. So far it hasn't worked. People will believe anything and just reinterpret things when they've been shown that the previous 'facts' were wrong. I really don't see a lot of difference between what Nathan believes and any other belief that requires faith to believe it. Believing the earth is only 6000 years old is basing that on belief and ignoring the data that clearly shows us everything is much much older. Nathan clearly believes what he believes and there isn't anything anyone can say that will change that belief, just like there is nothing anyone can say to get people to understand evolution or a universe that's very old.
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Post by Greg on Jun 1, 2015 18:03:40 GMT -5
There is no Harley A. Byrd listed as a relative of rear admiral Richard Evelyn Byrd in wiki or in the other source I cited or in ancestry.com.
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Post by Roselyn T on Jun 1, 2015 20:46:55 GMT -5
Everyone has tried using facts. So far it hasn't worked. People will believe anything and just reinterpret things when they've been shown that the previous 'facts' were wrong. I really don't see a lot of difference between what Nathan believes and any other belief that requires faith to believe it. Believing the earth is only 6000 years old is basing that on belief and ignoring the data that clearly shows us everything is much much older. Nathan clearly believes what he believes and there isn't anything anyone can say that will change that belief, just like there is nothing anyone can say to get people to understand evolution or a universe that's very old. I agree with you Snow, to me its the same as people saying "the workers are the only "true servants of God on the earth". Where is the proof ?
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Jun 2, 2015 2:10:37 GMT -5
~~ The Russian document explores the historical mysteries of a Nazi secret base in Antarctica, the 1947 flying saucers attacked and destroyed most of Admiral Byrd's ill-fated 'Operation High Jump' expedition.
Nathan what you have said above is false and misleading. you are continuing to repeat falsehoods. Operation Highjump lost one plane in a crash, Of the POB, from memory three died and I think it was six survived. Another incident was when a guy got squashed by a roller on the ice runway they were building. There was no flying saucer attack. There are no genuine Russian documents that support your claim. So hardly the attack and destroyed most of. Either you are winding people up and think it is funny to keep repeating lies or you are incredibly naive. Whatever way it is please go and do some genuine research.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Jun 2, 2015 3:35:14 GMT -5
As I have said before, that video is a load of rubbish. I will believe the official account which can be cross referenced at numerous sources.
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Post by rational on Jun 2, 2015 8:59:10 GMT -5
Why are you accusing me of falsehoods, and false misleading? You can listen it for yourself... I am NOT making these things up.... listen at 10min.22 seconds... Here is the Russian documents of the Highjump Operation, The order came from Pentagon/White House to destroy Nazi Antartica base but Admiral's fleet was defeated. Where are the Russian documents??? NathanB, you are not making them up but you are spreading the lies. You keep talking about documents but all there ever is are YouTube videos without references to verify their content. If there are old USSR documents why are they never available? There were thousands of people who went to the South Pole and 99% of them tell the same story. Then there are those who make a living from publishing lies.
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Post by snow on Jun 2, 2015 16:33:05 GMT -5
Everyone has tried using facts. So far it hasn't worked. People will believe anything and just reinterpret things when they've been shown that the previous 'facts' were wrong. I really don't see a lot of difference between what Nathan believes and any other belief that requires faith to believe it. Believing the earth is only 6000 years old is basing that on belief and ignoring the data that clearly shows us everything is much much older. Nathan clearly believes what he believes and there isn't anything anyone can say that will change that belief, just like there is nothing anyone can say to get people to understand evolution or a universe that's very old. I agree with you Snow, to me its the same as people saying "the workers are the only "true servants of God on the earth". Where is the proof ? Well that is just one more thing that can't be proven, no will ever know until they die and no one has ever come back to report so...
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Post by Greg on Jun 2, 2015 17:38:32 GMT -5
My mistake NOT documents but documentary video was made in 2006.Probably should be "mocumentary,"
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Post by dmmichgood on Jun 2, 2015 20:32:58 GMT -5
,~~ The Russian document explores the historical mysteries of a Nazi secret base in Antarctica, the 1947 flying saucers attacked and destroyed most of Admiral Byrd's ill-fated 'Operation High Jump' expedition. Nathan what you have said above is false and misleading. you are continuing to repeat falsehoods. Operation Highjump lost one plane in a crash, Of the POB, from memory three died and I think it was six survived. Another incident was when a guy got squashed by a roller on the ice runway they were building. There was no flying saucer attack. There are no genuine Russian documents that support your claim. So hardly the attack and destroyed most of. Either you are winding people up and think it is funny to keep repeating lies or you are incredibly naive. Whatever way it is please go and do some genuine research. Why are you accusing me of falsehoods, and false misleading? You can listen it for yourself... I am NOT making these things up.... listen at 10min.22 seconds...Here is the Russian documents of the Highjump Operation, The order came from Pentagon/White House to destroy Nazi Antartica base but Admiral's fleet was defeated. An expedition reporter on the ship, John Sireson, described what happened (10:22). he mention about UFO, firefight with the UFO spacecraft, US lost a destroyer, 2 fighters were shot down with laser beam, 12 sailors/officers were killed. www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwUpPwyyvLw "Why are you accusing me of falsehoods, and false misleading?" Well. maybe, -because you are the one that keeps saying "Let the reader decide." So, perhaps some of us have decided.
OR Perhaps, we think as curlywurlysammagee said: "Either you are winding people up and think it is funny to keep repeating lies or you are incredibly naive.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2015 20:33:15 GMT -5
I agree with you Snow, to me its the same as people saying "the workers are the only "true servants of God on the earth". Where is the proof ? Well that is just one more thing that can't be proven, no will ever know until they die and no one has ever come back to report so... there have been plenty of "reports" the big one being Jesus, but you wont believe it until you actually experience it first hand...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2015 9:30:16 GMT -5
I agree with you Snow, to me its the same as people saying "the workers are the only "true servants of God on the earth". Where is the proof ? Well that is just one more thing that can't be proven, no will ever know until they die and no one has ever come back to report so... If someone came back to report, it probably wouldn't make any difference. Think of the story Jesus told in Luke 16, where the rich man wanted to send someone back from the dead to talk to his brethren: "And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent. And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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Post by snow on Jun 3, 2015 10:23:27 GMT -5
Well that is just one more thing that can't be proven, no will ever know until they die and no one has ever come back to report so... there have been plenty of "reports" the big one being Jesus, but you wont believe it until you actually experience it first hand... You're right about that, I won't believe it. Too many scams and knowing the history of the written scripture, I would bet that the Jesus report is off too.
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Post by snow on Jun 3, 2015 10:24:07 GMT -5
there have been plenty of "reports" the big one being Jesus, but you wont believe it until you actually experience it first hand... I could think a few people came back and reported, Moses, Elijah, Lazarus, Jesus, and Dorcas whom Peter raised from the dead.... After Jesus died an earthquake open up the earth and the believers came out of the graves walking and talking to people.You would think if that really happened it might have been mentioned somewhere other than the bible?
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Post by snow on Jun 3, 2015 10:25:22 GMT -5
Well that is just one more thing that can't be proven, no will ever know until they die and no one has ever come back to report so... If someone came back to report, it probably wouldn't make any difference. Think of the story Jesus told in Luke 16, where the rich man wanted to send someone back from the dead to talk to his brethren: "And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent. And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead." There are thousands of NDE reports. They tell us of just about every scenario one can think of about what it's like to die and come back. Do you believe them?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2015 11:19:45 GMT -5
If someone came back to report, it probably wouldn't make any difference. Think of the story Jesus told in Luke 16, where the rich man wanted to send someone back from the dead to talk to his brethren: "And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent. And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead." There are thousands of NDE reports. They tell us of just about every scenario one can think of about what it's like to die and come back. Do you believe them? Not unless they're recorded in the Bible Of course, Jesus raised people from the dead - Jairus' daughter and the widow's son - and there's no record of what they may or may not have seen while they were dead.
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Post by snow on Jun 3, 2015 11:22:17 GMT -5
You would think if that really happened it might have been mentioned somewhere other than the bible? The Pharisees priests must have told the witnesses who talked and saw the Christians who rose from the dead to keep quite it or be killed. Just like they spread false testimonies that the disciples of Jesus stole his body in the grave, so people wouldn't believe in His resurrection from the dead. However, we read in the I Cor. over 500 disciples and apostles saw Jesus in person after he rose from the dead.
We read in the gospel that Jesus raised Lazaus from the dead and the Pharisees tried to kill him to silent the Truth!
Matthew 27:51-53 At that moment the curtain of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom. The earth shook, the rocks split 52 and the tombs broke open. The bodies of many holy people who had died were raised to life. 53 They came out of the tombs after Jesus’ resurrection and went into the holy city and appeared to many people.
Resurrection of the dead, or resurrection from the dead (Koine: ἀναστάσεως τῶν νεκρῶν,[1] trans: anastasis ho nekros; literally: "a standing up again";[2] "raising up (of) the dead") is a term frequently used in the New Testament to describe an event by which a person, or people are resurrected (brought back to life). In the New Testament, the three common usages for this term pertain to (1) the Christ, rising from the dead; (2) the rising from the dead of all men, at the end of this present age and (3) the resurrection of certain ones in history, who were restored to life.[3][4] Predominantly in Christian eschatology, the term is used to support the belief that the dead will be brought back to life in connection with end times. Various other forms of this concept can also be found in other eschatologies, namely: Islamic, Jewish and Zoroastrian eschatology.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resurrection_of_the_deadI wasn't talking about when Jesus rose Nathan, I was asking why the Romans, who documented just about everything, didn't write about all these graves opening and an earthquake and dead people walking around? You would think it would be fairly major news but not a peep out of them.
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Post by snow on Jun 3, 2015 11:24:10 GMT -5
There are thousands of NDE reports. They tell us of just about every scenario one can think of about what it's like to die and come back. Do you believe them? Not unless they're recorded in the Bible Of course, Jesus raised people from the dead - Jairus' daughter and the widow's son - and there's no record of what they may or may not have seen while they were dead. But if you only believe what's in the bible, you are negating thousands of people's experience in the here and now and they truly believe they died and came back. I believe it is the brain responding to trauma and stress, but many do not.
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