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Post by Talk the talk on May 14, 2007 12:57:48 GMT -5
Overall, I think we could spend far too much time trying to figure out what others do and do not like; what each gender tends to look for in a mate, etc, etc, etc. , when we just need to be our selves; I don't care about what studies show people prefer in other people. You might not care about the studies but you do care about what other people think. You care about how other people view you. Fallen world? Sounds like a judgment call. In what way has it fallen? Or just be yourself with modifications that make us more like what we want people to experience us as?
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Post by velmasue on May 14, 2007 13:32:28 GMT -5
I have long hair and I am not professing. Indeed, one does not have to be professing to have long hair.
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Post by velmasue on May 14, 2007 13:36:17 GMT -5
If I were a blind person, none of this would matter. If you were a blind person, what others look like wouldn't matter to you, because you could not see their appearance. But what you look like would probably still matter to others who are looking at you. Whether we want to admit it or not, we are visual. We see other people; we look at one another. That is a human trait. Eyesight, [unless you are blind, that is.].
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Post by rational on May 14, 2007 20:05:08 GMT -5
If you were a blind person, what others look like wouldn't matter to you, because you could not see their appearance. Many blind people 'see' other people with their hands. And then there are the heightened other senses. Blind or not, what they look like would matter to most people. Why limit it to visual? We are a multi-sensing organism and we sense people with all our senses. People look a certain way but they also smell and sound in ways that may or may not be pleasing. Some people's skin is softer, their fingers feel better than others, their hair, etc. And then there is the matter of taste. Some people taste good. Some do not. But good taste will force me leave additional discussion to the imagination of the reader!
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Post by velmasue on May 14, 2007 21:54:29 GMT -5
If you were a blind person, what others look like wouldn't matter to you, because you could not see their appearance. Many blind people 'see' other people with their hands. And then there are the heightened other senses. Blind or not, what they look like would matter to most people. Why limit it to visual? We are a multi-sensing organism and we sense people with all our senses. People look a certain way but they also smell and sound in ways that may or may not be pleasing. Some people's skin is softer, their fingers feel better than others, their hair, etc. And then there is the matter of taste. Some people taste good. Some do not. But good taste will force me leave additional discussion to the imagination of the reader! Whatever.
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Post by Excellent Response on May 15, 2007 9:45:00 GMT -5
Whatever. So filled with meaning. And it is ever so popular these days.
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Post by rational on May 15, 2007 9:52:58 GMT -5
I take it you do not like people pointing out alternative points of view.
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Post by velmasue on May 15, 2007 10:12:05 GMT -5
I take it you do not like people pointing out alternative points of view. No, actually, it means that the replies mean very little to me, so it's just "whatever". Sure, whatever you say. I didn't even read them all. Same ole same ole.
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Post by velmasue on May 15, 2007 10:12:54 GMT -5
Whatever. So filled with meaning. And it is ever so popular these days. Sure, whatever you say. I take it you don't care for the term: 'whatever'.
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Post by Brick on May 15, 2007 12:29:41 GMT -5
Well, Velmasue IS our resident fashion consultant. Shouldn't we expect her to use the most fashionable terminology?
So VS, whaddaya say about those 'fessin' girls wearing sneakers & socks with their jean skirts? Shouldn't there be some sort of fashion penalty for that? I mean, sandles or flip flops are cool, but sneakers and socks? Yuk! Might as well skip shaving the legs as well.
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Post by rational on May 15, 2007 12:55:45 GMT -5
I take it you do not like people pointing out alternative points of view. No, actually, it means that the replies mean very little to me, so it's just "whatever". Sure, whatever you say. I didn't even read them all. Same ole same ole. I understand completely. You are, no doubt, in the vast majority, at least on this message board. No point in considering, or even reading, anything that is outside of what you believe.
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Post by velmasue on May 16, 2007 19:42:15 GMT -5
No, actually, it means that the replies mean very little to me, so it's just "whatever". Sure, whatever you say. I didn't even read them all. Same ole same ole. I understand completely. You are, no doubt, in the vast majority, at least on this message board. No point in considering, or even reading, anything that is outside of what you believe. Nice sarcasm.......
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Post by velmasue on May 16, 2007 19:48:27 GMT -5
Well, Velmasue IS our resident fashion consultant. Shouldn't we expect her to use the most fashionable terminology? So VS, whaddaya say about those 'fessin' girls wearing sneakers & socks with their jean skirts? Shouldn't there be some sort of fashion penalty for that? I mean, sandles or flip flops are cool, but sneakers and socks? Yuk! Might as well skip shaving the legs as well. Brick, Finally someone who understands! Thanx and I agree! I say: shave the legs, if you are a woman and will be showing bare skin. Sneakers and jeans skirts: hmmm. Big de-merits; especially if you also wear socks with the sneakers. There are some new cool sneakers out there now tho that are a cross..... Flip flops or some other type of slip on casual shoe would make more fashion sense with a skirt. That's just according to my taste and I have only one opinion on this vast board of professing and ex-professing people. Thank-you again, my friend for steering the discussion back around to fashion and fashion sense. I fear this thread was about to be highjacked and end up in a big debate about the chemicals found in perfume. You came to my rescue. My hero.......
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Post by rational on May 16, 2007 19:51:01 GMT -5
I understand completely. You are, no doubt, in the vast majority, at least on this message board. No point in considering, or even reading, anything that is outside of what you believe. Nice sarcasm....... Sorry, but it was not sarcasm. I was merely putting your sentiments into words.
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Post by velmasue on May 16, 2007 19:59:40 GMT -5
Nice sarcasm....... Sorry, but it was not sarcasm. I was merely putting your sentiments into words. Very curious.........how would you know what my sentiments are? You do not know me, do you? If you do, then send me a p.m. and we'll talk. Do I know you? Do you know me? I do not know your sentiments, that's for sure.... Send a p.m. to "velmasue". bye , cya
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Post by bump on May 17, 2007 3:48:36 GMT -5
bump
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Post by hrl on May 21, 2007 13:33:26 GMT -5
Interesting that blonds with big b o o b s are often associated with sex symbolism. Do people assume that they would just sleep around or commit adultery? I don't know Dolly personally, but she seems to have a certain purity about her, despite the blond wigs and big boobs displayed so well. Just remember friends, that you cannot tell whats inside a person totally by their appearance. Someone can look plain and pure on the outside, but be very dirty on the inside. And: vice versa. So we cannot discern who is really pure and who isn't by their looks. Their actions; the life they lead and what they really do with their private life are way more 'telling'.
But most of all.......................we cannot hide ANYTHING from God, even if we tried..................God knows the scoop; He sees the dirt; who do we think we're foolin' if we're trying to fool anyone? We fool some people, but we can't fool them all and we can never ever ever ever ever never fool God! ..............
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Post by Gene on May 21, 2007 13:46:11 GMT -5
Dear Velmasue,
I live in Switzerland, where among men short sleeved dress shirts with ties in summer are all the rage (and probably have been since about 1952.) My American sensibility tells me to avoid the maxim 'when in Rome (or Zurich) do as the Romans (or Zurcher's) do' and continue to wear long sleeved shirts when wearing a tie, no matter the season. Am I making a mistake?
Sincerely, All Tied Up
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Post by juliette on May 21, 2007 14:02:16 GMT -5
Gene: You're a good man... stick to your guns... short sleeves with a tie?!?!? Sounds like Boyden convention around 1974. Juli
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Post by velmasue on May 21, 2007 14:08:23 GMT -5
Dear Velmasue, I live in Switzerland, where among men short sleeved dress shirts with ties in summer are all the rage (and probably have been since about 1952.) My American sensibility tells me to avoid the maxim 'when in Rome (or Zurich) do as the Romans (or Zurcher's) do' and continue to wear long sleeved shirts when wearing a tie, no matter the season. Am I making a mistake? Sincerely, All Tied Up By all means if you want to adopt the philosophy of "when in Rome do as the Romans do" as a personal choice, go right ahead. But are you willing then to become a nudist if you stumble upon a nudist beach? Hmmm. There are some situations when you may not wish to 'do as the Romans do', if you know what I mean. Personally, I don't think people should be fakey, regardless of where they are. If they feel a sincere wish to just 'fit in' with what ever crowd they are with, fine. But if it's not a sincere action, then to me , what's the point? As to long sleeves and ties: yes they do look better than short sleeves with ties..............But you won't find me 'shunning' you based upon your attire, regardless, sir! Some of the most kind-hearted giving people I have ever met are biker dudes in overalls. And some of the most stuffy stingey people I have met wear three piece suits. So what's the point, you ask? You cannot tell by the way a person looks how much they give to the poor, needy, widows and fatherless and underprivileged folks. So, just BE KIND, THAT'S a good way to go. Do like Jesus did. Sit down and eat with the sinners or those that wear raggs, either way, Jesus loved the beggers on the streets as well as the rich man.
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Post by hrl on May 21, 2007 14:10:37 GMT -5
Dear Velmasue, I live in Switzerland, where among men short sleeved dress shirts with ties in summer are all the rage (and probably have been since about 1952.) My American sensibility tells me to avoid the maxim 'when in Rome (or Zurich) do as the Romans (or Zurcher's) do' and continue to wear long sleeved shirts when wearing a tie, no matter the season. Am I making a mistake? Sincerely, All Tied Up By all means if you want to adopt the philosophy of "when in Rome do as the Romans do" as a personal choice, go right ahead. But are you willing then to become a nudist if you stumble upon a nudist beach? Hmmm. There are some situations when you may not wish to 'do as the Romans do', if you know what I mean. Personally, I don't think people should be fakey, regardless of where they are. If they feel a sincere wish to just 'fit in' with what ever crowd they are with, fine. But if it's not a sincere action, then to me , what's the point? As to long sleeves and ties: yes they do look better than short sleeves with ties..............But you won't find me 'shunning' you based upon your attire, regardless, sir! Some of the most kind-hearted giving people I have ever met are biker dudes in overalls. And some of the most stuffy stingey people I have met wear three piece suits. So what's the point, you ask? You cannot tell by the way a person looks how much they give to the poor, needy, widows and fatherless and underprivileged folks. So, just BE KIND, THAT'S a good way to go. Do like Jesus did. Sit down and eat with the sinners or those that wear raggs, either way, Jesus loved the beggers on the streets as well as the rich man. Yeah, but velmasue, some people judge rich folks! Reverse discrimination at it's finest! Some people look down on you if you dress up! That's not right either!
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Post by velmasue on May 21, 2007 14:20:53 GMT -5
Interesting that blonds with big b o o b s are often associated with sex symbolism. Do people assume that they would just sleep around or commit adultery? I don't know Dolly personally, but she seems to have a certain purity about her, despite the blond wigs and big boobs displayed so well. Just remember friends, that you cannot tell whats inside a person totally by their appearance. Someone can look plain and pure on the outside, but be very dirty on the inside. And: vice versa. So we cannot discern who is really pure and who isn't by their looks. Their actions; the life they lead and what they really do with their private life are way more 'telling'.
But most of all.......................we cannot hide ANYTHING from God, even if we tried..................God knows the scoop; He sees the dirt; who do we think we're foolin' if we're trying to fool anyone? We fool some people, but we can't fool them all and we can never ever ever ever ever never fool God! .............. Very true, very true indeed, we cannot hide a thing from God! But ever since Adam and Eve we have been trying to do just that very thing. So I have adopted this attitude about outward appearances and attire: it MIGHT be a reflection of who you are, who you are with and where you are at. That's really the most practical way to put it, in a nutshell. Of COURSE we can try to hide behind a wholesome appearance and we might try to behave all nicey nicey , but it doesn't change who we sleep with or what kinds of morals we live by. And I am not just talking about it. I mean: your own personal morals are how you really live. And we can dress up or down, apporpriate or inappropriate, but it doesn't change our moral code.
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Post by velmasue on May 21, 2007 14:22:59 GMT -5
By all means if you want to adopt the philosophy of "when in Rome do as the Romans do" as a personal choice, go right ahead. But are you willing then to become a nudist if you stumble upon a nudist beach? Hmmm. There are some situations when you may not wish to 'do as the Romans do', if you know what I mean. Personally, I don't think people should be fakey, regardless of where they are. If they feel a sincere wish to just 'fit in' with what ever crowd they are with, fine. But if it's not a sincere action, then to me , what's the point? As to long sleeves and ties: yes they do look better than short sleeves with ties..............But you won't find me 'shunning' you based upon your attire, regardless, sir! Some of the most kind-hearted giving people I have ever met are biker dudes in overalls. And some of the most stuffy stingey people I have met wear three piece suits. So what's the point, you ask? You cannot tell by the way a person looks how much they give to the poor, needy, widows and fatherless and underprivileged folks. So, just BE KIND, THAT'S a good way to go. Do like Jesus did. Sit down and eat with the sinners or those that wear raggs, either way, Jesus loved the beggers on the streets as well as the rich man. Yeah, but velmasue, some people judge rich folks! Reverse discrimination at it's finest! Some people look down on you if you dress up! That's not right either!Well, yes, I know that's not right, but that's how humans behave...I cannot help it. I cannot help how other people treat you based upon your appearance. All I can do is encourage you to be who you are; be honest; and dress appropriately and tastefully if at all possible. It's sad that anyone would be judged because of how much money they make, but it happens.
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Post by hrl on May 21, 2007 14:31:03 GMT -5
Yeah, but velmasue, some people judge rich folks! Reverse discrimination at it's finest! Some people look down on you if you dress up! That's not right either! Well, yes, I know that's not right, but that's how humans behave...I cannot help it. I cannot help how other people treat you based upon your appearance. All I can do is encourage you to be who you are; be honest; and dress appropriately and tastefully if at all possible. It's sad that anyone would be judged because of how much money they make, but it happens. Yes, that is very sad. People look down on others because they are rich or because they dress nice or look nice or drive nice cars or have nice homes. Yes, that happens, but we don't hear about that so much, do we? But it happens. People just look down at other people, period. Looking down. Looking down when it be better to look up and look ahead.
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Post by timber on May 21, 2007 14:32:15 GMT -5
Dear Velmasue:
Do you think knickers and powdered wigs will ever come back into fashion? I confess to fantasies of wearing this type of clothing in public. Perhaps along the line of King Louis or something. Please advise. Thanks.
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Post by velmasue on May 21, 2007 14:37:32 GMT -5
Dear Velmasue: Do you think knickers and powdered wigs will ever come back into fashion? I confess to fantasies of wearing this type of clothing in public. Perhaps along the line of King Louis or something. Please advise. Thanks. Well, you know I never discount that possibility. Because what goes around comes around, whether we like it or not! But if that fashion ever came back 'in', oh help us. Now, as to your FANTASY: Let me see here: Well, there is nothing wrong with fantasies as long as they don't get out of hand. Actually, there is nothing wrong with wearing wigs or knickers, for that matter. Why don't you do ahead and wear them sometime and see what happens? But be warned: you may not like the reaction you get from other people. Or better yet, just go to Williamsburg, Virginia and you'll have no problem whatsoever 'fitting in'.
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Post by hrl on May 21, 2007 15:48:12 GMT -5
From a woman's point of view regarding men's attire: Nothing beats a man in a uniform!
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Post by Good choice on May 21, 2007 17:29:39 GMT -5
From a woman's point of view regarding men's attire: Nothing beats a man in a uniform! Do you prefer the McDonald's uniform over the Burger King? I personally like the Long John Silver uniforms.
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