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Post by ex-teenager on Jun 12, 2006 6:38:13 GMT -5
Edgar has made quite a few statements on here, one of these regarding workers and drugs, one were I asked did he think the workers were inspired by God - he never answered. If you agree with Edgar, do you agree that the workers are not inspired by God? If Edgar would like to disagree with what I am saying please do so. And I will stand corrected, he just never answered it last time I asked! I will leave you to think on it Las... then you can reaccess whether you agree 100% or not. I would hate to think Teenager there was no gain for Edgar has a 2x2 worker I do not believe that yes i believe edgar was inspired from God...Like John Long mentioned being exclusive meant great gain on one hand and great loss on the other perhaps that is a good reason why Edgar is out of 2x2s now Here las.. answer this question... If you agree with Edgar 100%, do you agree that the workers are not inspired by God?
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Post by las unplugged on Jun 12, 2006 6:40:44 GMT -5
I answered your question Teenager do you want it on a ratio of 1-10
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Post by las unplugged on Jun 12, 2006 6:42:14 GMT -5
I'm sure a lot of JW's are inspired also from God but are they exclusive and cult like also
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Post by las unplugged on Jun 12, 2006 6:46:20 GMT -5
The answer to your question Teenager is yes but bare in mind that there are soft liners and hard liners for example some like to teach tae kwon do the hard line way and have no use for the soft line of teaching then there are those who believe inteaching the soft line way and there is no changing there thinking eh so what do you think Teenager if you can't get it one way you try another but it is always nice to refer to the bible
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Post by about Edgar on Jun 12, 2006 6:56:56 GMT -5
Edgar should see the group for what it is he was worker 16 yrs Not only worker for 16yrs but elder also How many yrs Edgar? Yes I respect Edgar's experience as a worker and elder but this experience would be far more helpful if he weren't so bitter. The bitterness that motivates and saturates so many of his posts overshadow his experience, which is a real shame.
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Post by las unplugged on Jun 12, 2006 7:14:46 GMT -5
I believe edgar understands what he once belonged to just what it really was
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Post by lloydswanson on Jun 12, 2006 7:22:31 GMT -5
Yes edgar was an important person in the 2x2s he knows from personal experience what the corrupsion was
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Post by las unplugged on Jun 12, 2006 7:29:41 GMT -5
Yes edgar was an important person in the 2x2s he knows from personal experience what the corrupsion was I never posted above quote
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Post by amazed on Jun 12, 2006 8:29:56 GMT -5
Lets see, admittedly you hated the 2x2 so much to even mention hate for the air they breathe, and yet you talk of other extremest? who's post should we really take with a grain of salt?? I think that finding out about the deceptions of the f&w can cause a person to go through a grieving process of sorts. This can take a long time for some. Just like you give people some slack when they are grieving the loss of a loved one I think people who are working their way through this process should be grated some slack.
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Post by back on topic on Jun 12, 2006 11:37:38 GMT -5
a sunday meeting in the home, or any religious worship in the home should NEVER need a privilege card or any other sort of documentation.
some communities have tried this but the ACLU have taken them to court and had all requirements revoke. we are a free nation and pple are allowed to FREELY gather for religous purposes without any restrictions or red tape.
find another reason to bash the truth..
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Post by ItsBackwards on Jun 12, 2006 12:09:19 GMT -5
a sunday meeting in the home, or any religious worship in the home should NEVER need a privilege card or any other sort of documentation. some communities have tried this but the ACLU have taken them to court and had all requirements revoke. we are a free nation and pple are allowed to FREELY gather for religous purposes without any restrictions or red tape. find another reason to bash the truth.. Boy you got this back-wards. The ACLU is always against formal religion. They are mostly funded by socialist communists.. Check it out. The ACLU went against a small household church which was fighting the courts based on registration and zoning requirements. The specific local ordinances specified these requirements based on size. (A certain amount of people or parked cars changed the status of the household fellowship to a formal Church) i.e it required registration and zoning exemption. That was not going to happen since the area was zoned light residential. Now the ACLU went to court in support of neighbors who complained about to many cars parked in the area and the fact that the meeting in the home was in fact a church and had no business in the residential zoning area. Guess who won? The household fellowship had to move or limit the amount of people attending. The ACLU has never supported Christian values.
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Post by Birthday Partier on Jun 12, 2006 12:28:31 GMT -5
Do you need a license for a birthday party or a family meal with 9 guests ? DUH. read the constitution. LOL..Good thinking
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Post by Not inspired by God on Jun 12, 2006 12:30:14 GMT -5
If you agree with Edgar 100%, do you agree that the workers are not inspired by God? [/quote]
Jesus doesnt inspire false doctrine..The devil does
If you think thats judgement so be it. Im judging by what the book says
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Post by ilylo on Jun 12, 2006 12:52:33 GMT -5
find another reason to bash the truth.. Don't you mean "find another reason to bash 2x2ism..."? I know, I know. In your mind, 2x2ism is truth.
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Post by ex-teenager on Jun 12, 2006 13:13:13 GMT -5
The answer to your question Teenager is yes but bare in mind that there are soft liners and hard liners for example some like to teach tae kwon do the hard line way and have no use for the soft line of teaching then there are those who believe inteaching the soft line way and there is no changing there thinking eh so what do you think Teenager if you can't get it one way you try another but it is always nice to refer to the bible Las please clarify.. 1. yes you agree the workers are inspired by God? or 2. yes you agree the workers are not inspired by God?Option 1 or 2?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2006 1:42:45 GMT -5
Edgar has made quite a few statements on here, one of these regarding workers and drugs, one were I asked did he think the workers were inspired by God - he never answered. If you agree with Edgar, do you agree that the workers are not inspired by God? If Edgar would like to disagree with what I am saying please do so. And I will stand corrected, he just never answered it last time I asked! I will leave you to think on it Las... then you can reaccess whether you agree 100% or not. Yikes!! This thread quickly turned into a free-for-all regarding my spiritual status!! I am thankful that it is my father in heaven that has the final say -- I trust Him!! Teenager asked the question if I regard the workers to be inspired by God. "Inspired by God" is a fairly wide and all inclusive title in many ways. The scripture clearly states that many of the reactions of Pharaoh to the children of Israels pursuit to leave Egypt, were inspired by God. (Ex. Exodus 7:13 And he hardened Pharaoh's heart, that he hearkened not unto them; as the Lord had said.) Actually I believe the Lord was quite involved in creating the kind of spirit in 2x2 leadership that made it impossible for my family to continue to involve ourselves in the "Egypt" of 2x2ism. We are quite thankful for the Lords involvement in this. Any judgment regarding the personal motivation of individual workers is clearly beyond my capacity. Personally, I do believe that many of the folks that offer for the work have sincere purposes to do what is right -- However 2x2 doctrine and policy is very effective in corrupting any noble individual Christian purpose, and quickly replacing it with 100% loyalty to "the system" (and enforcing this loyalty!)--- regardless of how anti-Christian the direction of this "system" may prove to be.
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Post by ex-teenager on Jun 13, 2006 4:41:56 GMT -5
Its clear what you mean Edgar!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2006 5:02:06 GMT -5
Its clear what you mean Edgar! Yes, I hope it is -- And I find it hard to understand why you felt that I have left these points in doubt in my previous posts.
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Post by jxr on Jun 13, 2006 7:48:21 GMT -5
Edgar should see the group for what it is he was worker 16 yrs Not only worker for 16yrs but elder also How many yrs Edgar? Yes I respect Edgar's experience as a worker and elder but this experience would be far more helpful if he weren't so bitter. The bitterness that motivates and saturates so many of his posts overshadow his experience, which is a real shame. I think Edgar's bitterness is really caused by him taking off the rose-colored glasses. Think about it, he left the group. He's hardly likely to peddle out the F&W line. He'll say it how it really is.
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Post by Maggie on Jun 13, 2006 8:55:07 GMT -5
......... Think about it, he left the group.......... Well, I suppose you could say he left because he was kicked over the cliff. Something about a brutal and decisive bash in the head that makes you want to keep your distance from such arrogant bullies.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2006 11:12:27 GMT -5
Looking back at the trauma of our rejection four years ago now in a few weeks, I suppose a person could wonder if it was expulsion or if it was a choice we made ourselves. Nearly all the excommunications are worded in such a way that "If you bow down and worship the divinity of the workers, you can stay 'in fellowship' -- if you don't feel you can do this, then don't contaminate the holy meetings of the 'purest people on earth'.
When we made the choice, it was done with a certain amount of uncertainty -- but time has proven to us the beautiful hand of God in it all.
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Post by I on Jun 13, 2006 16:54:25 GMT -5
Yes edgar was an important person in the 2x2s he knows from personal experience what the corrupsion was I never posted above quote I recon you are posting both ways las
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Post by no problem on Jun 13, 2006 20:41:16 GMT -5
As long as The UCLA is impartial as to their dealings with ALL RELIGIONS...not just Christianity, then I have no problem.
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Post by IllinoisGal on Jun 14, 2006 6:29:09 GMT -5
As long as The UCLA is impartial as to their dealings with ALL RELIGIONS...not just Christianity, then I have no problem. UCLA is a university........ACLU is the group that fights against religious groups and events
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Post by OzE on Jun 14, 2006 17:31:18 GMT -5
I'm sure a lot of JW's are inspired also from God but are they exclusive and cult like also
God is not the author of false teaching, he inspires none to speak in opposition to His truth. People have taken God's name and Book and created false religions. He allows it but doesn't inspire it. How could He? There is only one true Gospel and one true God. How people describe Him and His Gospel indicates whether they know and believe in the true God or a false one.
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Post by IllinoisGal on Jun 14, 2006 17:49:39 GMT -5
Inspiration has many sources..Im inspired to do alot of things.
Gods annointing only comes through him
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Post by Not that simple on Jun 15, 2006 9:27:11 GMT -5
As long as The UCLA is impartial as to their dealings with ALL RELIGIONS...not just Christianity, then I have no problem. This isn't possible, as ANTI-RELIGION is, in and of itself, another religion. And the UCLA is most certainly anti-religion.
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Post by ilylo on Jun 15, 2006 9:31:45 GMT -5
What does the University of California at Los Angeles have to do with any of this topic?
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