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Post by Burns me up on Jun 3, 2006 11:47:18 GMT -5
members3.boardhost.com/Professing/msg/1149316454.htmlThis Brad guy burns me up! To have the gall to claim that all professing folks are headed to hell. He learned exclusivism in "the truth" and now he applies this exclusivism to those in the truth. Sad. Makes me mad. Brad, HOW DARE YOU CLAIM MY PROFESSING RELATIVES CAN'T BE SAVED!! HOW DARE YOU CLAIM this! My fists are pounding!
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Post by bird on Jun 3, 2006 15:49:45 GMT -5
brad is a little bit off his rocker.
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Post by IllinoisGal on Jun 3, 2006 17:26:14 GMT -5
Blanket statements are unwise to make
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Post by To Burns me up on Jun 3, 2006 17:56:06 GMT -5
Can you understand at all that anyone who puts their trust in any system such as the workers or any specific religion rather than in Jesus Himself and/or who mistakenly believe that their system or religion IS synonymous with Jesus doesn't understand Jesus and such person or persons are putting their trust in the wrong THING?
I'm not Brad nor do I know Brad but I can agree with him.
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be not quick to anger
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Post by be not quick to anger on Jun 3, 2006 18:03:35 GMT -5
members3.boardhost.com/Professing/msg/1149316454.htmlThis Brad guy burns me up! To have the gall to claim that all professing folks are headed to hell. He learned exclusivism in "the truth" and now he applies this exclusivism to those in the truth. Sad. Makes me mad. Brad, HOW DARE YOU CLAIM MY PROFESSING RELATIVES CAN'T BE SAVED!! HOW DARE YOU CLAIM this! My fists are pounding! If you become mad every time you run into someone who states an opinion that you diasgree with, you will spend a large percentage of your precious existence mad. Is it worth it? Think about that instead of what Brad said. "God, grant me the Serenity to accept the things I cannot change, ( That would be Brad.) The Courage to change the things I can, ( That would be how I react when encountering an opinion I disagree with) And the Wisdom to know the difference!" ( Pray for Wisdom, my friend).
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Post by Common Sense on Jun 3, 2006 18:21:26 GMT -5
There are extremists on both sides.
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Post by bowhunter on Jun 3, 2006 19:28:17 GMT -5
If the individuals don't have a personal saving relationship with Jesus Christ,then they are lost-plain and simple.
It is uwise and inaccurate to categorize them all as lost,especially since we can't know the status unless the individual in question is confessing and professing Christ.
The fact that so many in the group deny Christ in so many ways does lead to speculation about their destiny,so I understand Brads concern,but I don't lump all into the same basket.
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Post by bryanfromalaska on Jun 3, 2006 22:08:45 GMT -5
members3.boardhost.com/Professing/msg/1149316454.htmlThis Brad guy burns me up! To have the gall to claim that all professing folks are headed to hell. He learned exclusivism in "the truth" and now he applies this exclusivism to those in the truth. Sad. Makes me mad. Brad, HOW DARE YOU CLAIM MY PROFESSING RELATIVES CAN'T BE SAVED!! HOW DARE YOU CLAIM this! My fists are pounding! I have known Brad for many years before he was in the work, as a worker for 11/2 yrs, and after he left the work. Give him time, Bryan... Hopefully, Brad will soften up, grow up spiritually, and mature in his thinking within a year or so. Brad is a nice guy...He just a little gung-ho with his latest revelation and that is all. You were there Bryan so you'd know exactly what Brad is going through. We remember your experience in the past. Perhaps, you can slow him down with his zeal... His parents are very godly, lovely people. Nate, Are you ASSuming it was me who created this thread? Bryan
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Post by Greg Lee unpluuged on Jun 3, 2006 23:00:00 GMT -5
Just wondering... Bryan... In the past it you encouraged me to register my name when I post on this message board.... You used to register your name as Bryan for awhile. How come you're not registering when you post these days.... We know you registered your name as TULIP . What is going on Bryan? Why, hide and seek? Did you post as gifted, Bryan? How many alias have you used recently on this message board. Well, Nathan, you were asked a question and you ignored it. You then attempted to draw attention to possible fault on Bryan's part. Did he only encourage you to register or to register and/or use a name consistently? Maybe Bryan used more names than "Tulip". If so, he used 'Tulip" quite consistently. Was the name "Tulip" registered? Maybe he used more names and if so he probably acted inconsistently to his advice for you. That being said, you dislike(d) when people attempt(ed) to place your name on posts and you ask(ed) them not, yet you[/u] still do that. Why is that?
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Post by Greg Lee unplugged on Jun 3, 2006 23:23:08 GMT -5
How about you Greg lee.... How many Alias have you used recently on this message board? Didn't you use to register your name as Greg Lee also? what happened? How come you are not registering your name when you post on here. It is because without registering your name you can hit and run anytime you like. « Last Edit: Today at 12:22am by Nathan9 » And you've done it again.
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Post by Greg Lee unplugged on Jun 4, 2006 1:07:29 GMT -5
;D Greglee when are you going to register your name again? None of your business. If you were to register your name again then you know you can't hide and seek, be a drive-by shooter, or hit and run game, Greg. Sure I could. But what you really are doing here is accusing me of such. Nathan, I don't answer to you. Don't ask me any questions, please. Don't guess if some post is written by me, please. Don't accuse me of things you've done to ease your conscience or cast a shadow on me or make you appear clean, please.
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Post by For the record on Jun 4, 2006 1:09:06 GMT -5
;D Greglee when are you going to register your name again? If you were to register your name again then you know you can't hide and seek, be a drive-by shooter, or hit and run game, Greg. « Last Edit: Today at 12:46am by Nathan9 »
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Post by Jessi on Jun 4, 2006 1:33:30 GMT -5
Bunch of love in here. I'm feelin' Christ. Salt. Light.
Love.
Peace, Jessi
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Post by bryanfromalaska on Jun 4, 2006 3:26:21 GMT -5
Nate, Are you ASSuming it was me who created this thread? Bryan Just wondering... Bryan... In the past it you encouraged me to register my name when I post on this message board.... You used to register your name as Bryan for awhile. How come you're not registering when you post these days.... We know you registered your name as TULIP . What is going on Bryan? Why, hide and seek? Did you post as gifted, Bryan? How many alias have you used recently on this message board. I asked you a question Nathan and all you can do is reply with a typical natestyle distract and distort post. Once again I ask, are you ASSuming it was me who created this thread?
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Post by Greg Lee unplugged on Jun 4, 2006 3:47:06 GMT -5
Bunch of love in here. I'm feelin' Christ. Salt. Light. Love. Peace, Jessi Yes, sometimes a greater amount of salt and light is needed. Do you skip over all the woes Jesus gave in the New Testament? Do ou not like Jesus for him telling Peter "Satan, get thee behind me"?
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Post by Jessi on Jun 4, 2006 13:26:40 GMT -5
Greg Lee:
What do you mean, skip over all the woes Jesus gave in the New Testament? Can you expound?
Are they the same kinds of woes found in the OT? Like the woe in Is 6:1? Do I not like Jesus? I love Jesus! he's my Savior and my God!
What IS the greatest commandment upon which hangs all the law and the prophets? Matt 22:36-40.
May God bless you and keep you,
Jessi
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Post by Greg Lee unplugged on Jun 4, 2006 15:15:30 GMT -5
Greg Lee: What do you mean, skip over all the woes Jesus gave in the New Testament? Can you expound? Are they the same kinds of woes found in the OT? Like the woe in Is 6:1? Do I not like Jesus? I love Jesus! he's my Savior and my God! What IS the greatest commandment upon which hangs all the law and the prophets? Matt 22:36-40. May God bless you and keep you, Jessi Jessi, you seemed to take exception to the little exchange among Bryan, Nathan, and myself. Some people like everything to be rosey and they quote the "whatsoever things are..." verse(s). Some make fault over others' reproof and rebuke and admonishings.
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Post by a believer on Jun 4, 2006 15:54:16 GMT -5
Well, Nathan, you were asked a question and you ignored it. You then attempted to draw attention to possible fault on Bryan's part. Did he only encourage you to register or to register and/or use a name consistently? Maybe Bryan used more names than "Tulip". If so, he used 'Tulip" quite consistently. Was the name "Tulip" registered? Maybe he used more names and if so he probably acted inconsistently to his advice for you. That being said, you dislike(d) when people attempt(ed) to place your name on posts and you ask(ed) them not, yet you[/u] still do that. Why is that?[/quote] How about you Greg lee.... How many Aliases have you used since you deleted or stop using your registered name on this message board? Didn't you use to register your name as Greg Lee also? what happened? It is because without registering your own name you can be hit and run posters anytime you like. [/quote] And how many times have you registered under different names Nathan? I remember at least 4 names you have used in the past NB, Nate, Nathan, Nathan 9,, and how many more and some of the unregistered posts sure have a Nathan ring to them
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Post by a believer on Jun 4, 2006 19:18:35 GMT -5
And how many times have you registered under different names Nathan? I remember at least 4 names you have used in the past NB, Nate, Nathan, Nathan 9, and how many more and some of the unregistered posts sure have a Nathan ring to them After I registered my name as Nathan and Nathan9 I have NOT used any other names or alias. ;D So you are admitting you have used at least 4 names on here.
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Post by a believer on Jun 4, 2006 21:39:06 GMT -5
I have no problem what names people post under. You Nathan are the one who has the problem. You were talking about the different names that some of the others use and I was pointing out that you have also used several different names.
Yes, I have used other names. Sometimes I feel it more appropriate to use a name that summaries what I am talking about. A name means very little to me, what they say does. I doubt very few 2x2s think like you do Nathan. I have never heard one of them agree with your theory that they can trace their line down the Waldos. The workers very clearly say that they are not interested in tracing their origins or talking about past 'workers'.
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Post by Greg Lee unplugged on Jun 4, 2006 22:37:57 GMT -5
I doubt very few 2x2s think like you do Nathan. I have never heard one of them agree with your theory that they can trace their line down the Waldos. The workers very clearly say that they are not interested in tracing their origins or talking about past 'workers'. Well, you are wrong "a believer" about agreement among the 2x2's. That being said, as far as I know, there is only one 2x2 and that is Nathan Barker. There might be one other on this board that professed 2x2ism, but that might have been Nathan, too. The workers now, on there history, yes, I think they are content not reviewing their history.
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Post by a believer on Jun 4, 2006 22:37:59 GMT -5
What other names might I use. I sometimes use the theme of what I am writing about. For example, I might use 'names' for this part of the thread as this thread as many others has taken a few twist and turns and I want to show which part of the tread I am talking about...... I have been out a few years now. Can't remember just how many as my mind is failing.....hahaha. I feel like that sometimes. I was in for over 35 as I have said in the past. I have most close family members still in. I am not a 2x2 but I am a Christian. To say that I do not know the friends and workers you know is not a belief of those in the group as we always claimed to be the same the world over and our workers traveled the world. We had many workers from your country the same as you had many from ours. This is another belief that is different from you and the teachings of the workers.
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Post by a believer on Jun 4, 2006 23:31:56 GMT -5
What other names might I use. I sometimes use the theme of what I am writing about. For example, I might use 'names' for this part of the thread as this thread as many others has taken a few twist and turns and I want to show which part of the tread I am talking about...... I have been out a few years now. Can't remember just how many as my mind is failing.....hahaha. I feel like that sometimes. I was in for over 35 as I have said in the past. I have most close family members still in. I am not a 2x2 but I am a Christian. To say that I do not know the friends and workers you know is not a belief of those in the group as we always claimed to be the same the world over and our workers traveled the world. We had many workers from your country the same as you had many from ours. This is another belief that is different from you and the teachings of the workers. Thanks, a believer. Are you from Australia? or NZ? My belief and teachings are not anything new within the 2x2s church. ;D What I've learned and taught came from different workers in (USA) whom I had known or been with as their co-workers. (from 1978-94) I have never heard a worker preach about the Waldos.
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Post by ilylo on Jun 4, 2006 23:41:55 GMT -5
I have never heard a worker preach about the Waldos. Nobody has. Nor has any worker ever stepped forward in any venue to endorse nate's website.
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Post by bryanfromalaska on Jun 4, 2006 23:45:24 GMT -5
nathan,
You have yet to answer my question.
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Post by Brad Lewis on Jun 5, 2006 3:57:42 GMT -5
Proverbs 19: 28 An ungodly witness scorneth judgment: and the mouth of the wicked devoureth iniquity.
Perhaps next time you should read what I write instead of twisting mine and other peoples words with the purpose of inciting people to anger without a just cause.
You are leading others to sin and sowing discord.
This is why you are angry when people make the judgment that those who live in sin, know it and won't repent are going to a lost eternity.
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Post by Bryanfromalaska on Jun 5, 2006 11:23:08 GMT -5
Proverbs 19: 28 An ungodly witness scorneth judgment: and the mouth of the wicked devoureth iniquity. Perhaps next time you should read what I write instead of twisting mine and other peoples words with the purpose of inciting people to anger without a just cause. You are leading others to sin and sowing discord. This is why you are angry when people make the judgment that those who live in sin, know it and won't repent are going to a lost eternity. Hey brad, They did read what you wrote and this is what I warned you about with respect to terminology. BUT NOOOOOOO... you choose not to listen to me did you.
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Post by Bryanfromalaska on Jun 5, 2006 11:23:25 GMT -5
nathan, You have yet to answer my question. Still waiting Nathan...
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