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Post by BobWilliston on Dec 1, 2024 2:25:18 GMT -5
And that reminds me of the elder of the meeting you liked to yell at me. I made that statement once in my testimony in meeting. After the meeting he said to me, "I know you're a teacher, but I didn't understand what you said about your class."  Was he home schooled? (Terrible pun) I don't know about that. But after I resigned from being the alternate elder because of him I told him that I knew the workers had made him the elder "so he could keep tabs on me." And his reply was: "Well, they didn't say it just that way!" He was also dumb enough to tell me how very much he "$upported the workers". BTW, he was also a recent convert from the RCC. Except for one man, other men in the meeting had all been professing longer than he had even been alive. He once yelled at me over the phone for about 80 minutes. Meanwhile my wife came home from work and got herself dinner, and prepared to go out to the store. Since all I was doing was sitting there holding the phone she asked if I was on hold or something. I whispered that I was listening to Mike yelling at me -- she rolled her eyes and went back to what she was doing. That was the wildest place I ever went to meetings. |
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Post by landdownunder on Dec 1, 2024 3:54:20 GMT -5
Add William Easton and his CSA colleagues in New Zealand with Dean Bruer and colleagues in the States, and the question arises, what is wrong with the 2x2 church and its system of fellowship? Was it wrong from the start (William Irvine, Eddie Cooney, Jack Carroll and all those early doctrinaire workers)? Or did it go wrong somewhere along the way? And if so, when and where? Thoughts? Speaking with a professing lady about this yesterday. Her response was concise: "Matthew 10. From the beginning. And they’re not following Mathew 10 anyway. Far from it. Not that they should. It’s wrong for 2 men to be going around together like that. Unless they’re like Paul and his companions which is not God’s plan for many of us." |
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Post by chuck on Dec 1, 2024 6:21:04 GMT -5
Whatever defined management structure they put in place will always fail because they build it on something that's not true. Are you referring to the 2x2 cult or mythology as a whole? Probably both, I can see value within mythology but religion always manages to use it to hurt people. |
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Post by chuck on Dec 2, 2024 2:57:36 GMT -5
Was he home schooled? (Terrible pun) I don't know about that. But after I resigned from being the alternate elder because of him I told him that I knew the workers had made him the elder "so he could keep tabs on me." And his reply was: "Well, they didn't say it just that way!" He was also dumb enough to tell me how very much he "$upported the workers". BTW, he was also a recent convert from the RCC. Except for one man, other men in the meeting had all been professing longer than he had even been alive. He once yelled at me over the phone for about 80 minutes. Meanwhile my wife came home from work and got herself dinner, and prepared to go out to the store. Since all I was doing was sitting there holding the phone she asked if I was on hold or something. I whispered that I was listening to Mike yelling at me -- she rolled her eyes and went back to what she was doing. That was the wildest place I ever went to meetings. that chap sounds a hoot! |
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Post by BobWilliston on Dec 2, 2024 22:57:28 GMT -5
I don't know about that. But after I resigned from being the alternate elder because of him I told him that I knew the workers had made him the elder "so he could keep tabs on me." And his reply was: "Well, they didn't say it just that way!" He was also dumb enough to tell me how very much he "$upported the workers". BTW, he was also a recent convert from the RCC. Except for one man, other men in the meeting had all been professing longer than he had even been alive. He once yelled at me over the phone for about 80 minutes. Meanwhile my wife came home from work and got herself dinner, and prepared to go out to the store. Since all I was doing was sitting there holding the phone she asked if I was on hold or something. I whispered that I was listening to Mike yelling at me -- she rolled her eyes and went back to what she was doing. That was the wildest place I ever went to meetings. that chap sounds a hoot! Definitely. He's so zealous now that he told all of his extended Italian Catholic family that now that he's professing, they are not to contact him between 5PM on Friday until Monday morning unless it's a dire emergency. That time is for the saints. One year he found out where the overseer was spending Christmas Day, and he invited himself to visit him there that day. He needs one of those t-shirts that read: I'm not yelling, I'm Italian. hahahaha |
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Post by chuck on Dec 2, 2024 23:25:30 GMT -5
Definitely. He's so zealous now that he told all of his extended Italian Catholic family that now that he's professing, they are not to contact him between 5PM on Friday until Monday morning unless it's a dire emergency. That time is for the saints. One year he found out where the overseer was spending Christmas Day, and he invited himself to visit him there that day. He needs one of those t-shirts that read: I'm not yelling, I'm Italian. hahahaha oh dear, the poor fellow is quite deranged. |
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Post by ovid on Dec 5, 2024 21:12:03 GMT -5
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Post by Pragmatic on Dec 5, 2024 21:28:30 GMT -5
And shame too on those among the friends there who told Easton's ex-wife that she was going to hell if she didn't halt the prosecution. (She couldn't have anyway)
And shame on those who protested when he was finally asked to not attend the meetings. I know some of them.
Kudos to the courage of the victims, and the work done by our Police to effect a successful prosecution.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Dec 5, 2024 21:33:10 GMT -5
The line that Review was fond of using keeps coming back to me. "We will do what is right in the sight of man and god: Review is one that should be deeply ashamed of his actions in attemptng to protect Easton and the other Northland creep. Somehow I doubt he will be.
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Post by Pragmatic on Dec 5, 2024 22:08:54 GMT -5
Sometimes Review falls on the right side of an argument, but deeper analysis shows it is when he is wanting to be the big shot. (From those I have talked to, who have first hand experience)
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Post by fixit on Dec 5, 2024 22:17:23 GMT -5
Sometimes Review falls on the right side of an argument, but deeper analysis shows it is when he is wanting to be the big shot. (From those I have talked to, who have first hand experience) Workers should be asking themselves why most of the perpetrators are people they are drawn to. Their buddies. Thankfully secular authorities have much better discernment and sense of justice. |
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Post by jwatt on Dec 6, 2024 0:14:41 GMT -5
And excellent outcome today, glad that sicko will never walk free again. Shame on those who supported him and well done to the victims for coming forward.
Easton wasn't remorseful at all and deserves all that will be thrown at him from now on.
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Post by magpies39plus on Dec 8, 2024 18:50:46 GMT -5
At last I am 85 and the last 50 of these years I have been screaming out to save the kids,, At the Technical School I attended I was known as Fiddlers little boy.. You couldn't say anything as the brainwashed parents or Preachers ""OH,those kids he is mixing with are putting these thought into his mind".. I know of one girl who was told,"You will grow out of it",, "It is best not to talk about it",etc? I remember one girl crying when she found out that a certain sister Preacher would be in her district again the next year? Ian Parkers sad sad sad suicide,he named three preachers one was an ex? Please GOD place/keep the right teams of the FBI and hopefully Australia's ASIO on this terrible unnatural crime that I can quote back to around 100 years... But here in Australia we saw 2x Preacher Jailed,a State Elder who was known to be fond of little boys,saw Preachers transferred interstate/overseas? Paedophile = someone that has the mental disorder that attracts them to pre-pubescentchildren "AND" Animals?
As you would know I have always said "what a great hiding place for those of unnatural sexual desires".. Roman Catholic Priests and Nuns we even told (supposed) jokes about their infilteration of Homo/Lesbian?paedofhiles into their ministry? "YET"so many of us when we were kids were molested or sexually abused by "These sick perverted people? Not to many years ago the Victorian Elder was a known Paedophile so he couldn't really sack a male/female Preacher for the same sins,could he? Mention anything and "scoffers" would cry you down?
UNNatural,, As in Timothy 16 it says that all scripture is inspired by God !! SO,it would be right before God to read 1 Corinthians 9 vs 5-6.. Save your kids now as at last "The real Truth is being exposed"?
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Post by ovid on Dec 8, 2024 20:02:09 GMT -5
And excellent outcome today, glad that sicko will never walk free again. Shame on those who supported him and well done to the victims for coming forward. Easton wasn't remorseful at all and deserves all that will be thrown at him from now on. Assuming a few things, but ... * when did Bill Easton lose his eldership (assuming he was ever an elder in a meeting up north) * when was Bill Easton 'disfellowshipped' (stopped from attending in any manner) |
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Dec 8, 2024 20:30:36 GMT -5
And excellent outcome today, glad that sicko will never walk free again. Shame on those who supported him and well done to the victims for coming forward. Easton wasn't remorseful at all and deserves all that will be thrown at him from now on. Assuming a few things, but ... * when did Bill Easton lose his eldership (assuming he was ever an elder in a meeting up north) * when was Bill Easton 'disfellowshipped' (stopped from attending in any manner) Good questions. Some other questions worth asking and the answers seeing the light of day are the following. When was Eastons first offence? When did Easton become a worker? What year was he booted out of the work? |
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Post by ovid on Dec 8, 2024 22:41:02 GMT -5
Assuming a few things, but ... * when did Bill Easton lose his eldership (assuming he was ever an elder in a meeting up north) * when was Bill Easton 'disfellowshipped' (stopped from attending in any manner) Good questions. Some other questions worth asking and the answers seeing the light of day are the following. When was Eastons first offence? When did Easton become a worker? What year was he booted out of the work? Some detail at wingsfortruth.info/2024/12/06/new-zealand-ex-worker-jailed-for-13-years/ It has some details missing, but is probably generally solid enough depiction. Answers to some of your questions could be estimated from this info. |
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Post by magpies39plus on Dec 8, 2024 22:52:11 GMT -5
Rife in Australasia,now the FBI has cracked it ? As an 85 year old (Ex Preacher's' victim) the news that they are overlapping with other Countries over the ministry saturated with men and women child and young teen molesters.. When a few years ago 2x were jailed for horrific numbers of pedophile acts on children and some could have been on yours,as kids are to scared to say... The bible speaks of scoffers??? Just mention this subject to a 2x2 and scoffer will be the first unbiblical act you will encounter?
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