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Post by Pragmatic on Feb 26, 2024 16:49:58 GMT -5
What a load of old tosh....and I thought you were supposed to keep your Venus rubbish off this TMB forum. Tell that to your buddy, Curly and your cronies. You hypocrite! You just mention it yourself on the main board. I mentioned after you did, in order to identify what the rubbish was you were already posting here. Nothing hypocritical about that.
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Post by chuck on Feb 26, 2024 17:05:35 GMT -5
You're approach will keep you out of a lot of people's homes. My approach differently at work, and those I meet with every day at work, they are NOT so hostile, angry and nasty like MANY of you showed on TMB. I don’t want to be or stay in your homes. I have mine already. Just like Jesus showed how kind he treated the woman at the well, zacheus, Nicodimus, than the religious Pharisees and the Sadducee’s because they were fault finders and try to kill him constantly. No wonder, he called them children of the devil, generation of vipers, and told them their father was the devil, murder from beginning out to kill him after he was born, and using his children on earth to kill Jesus. No wonder Jesus exposed who truly the religious Pharisees were in Matthew 23 for all to see what they were. Oh the irony..... You are the legalistic bible thumping Pharisee in this debate Nathan......the Pharisees knew the scriptures inside out, but they were nasty in how they applied it.....so they may as well not have known it at all because they used it for thr wrong purpose, they cut people down with it based on religious performance amd tradition.........its glaringly obvious you are doing the same thing.
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Post by chuck on Feb 26, 2024 17:16:26 GMT -5
Many of my customers told me, they sent my website to their friends and families. That is how it reaches to many through out the world through the words of mouths. They love when I showed them the location of heaven/Venus and where God lives, they were shocked how close it is to us. He's closer than Venus... Isaiah 57:15 For thus says the high and lofty one who inhabits eternity, whose name is Holy: I dwell in the high and holy place and also with those who are contrite and humble in spirit, to revive the spirit of the humble and to revive the heart of the contrite. I think it would be better if he just wrote his own bible as he does not care one bit for context and history behind the current one, if he wrote his own it could say whatever his heart desires and he would be right in his own eyes......because Nathan's bible says!
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Post by chuck on Feb 26, 2024 17:26:22 GMT -5
There's plenty of evidence John of Patmos may have been hallucinating when he wrote the book of Revelation. So don't regard Revelation as fact, it is just a record of a wild dream that John had. Hallucinations can be caused by mental health conditions like schizophrenia or a bipolar disorder. Drugs and alcohol can also be a cause. I know I can have some pretty wild dreams if I have too much stout before bed. Unfortunately at 84 I don't have any R rated ones. But one thing we can be sure of is that the FBI won't have any hallucinations as it investigates criminal activity within the 2x2 Church. The shrooms definitely helped, but there is a fair bit of the book grounded in what was actually going on in the Roman Empire at that time, it is a contrast to living Caeser's way or the Christ's way, for some reason that is cast to one side and people can only focus on the shrooms....
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Post by chuck on Feb 26, 2024 17:33:44 GMT -5
There's plenty of evidence John of Patmos may have been hallucinating when he wrote the book of Revelation. So don't regard Revelation as fact, it is just a record of a wild dream that John had. Hallucinations can be caused by mental health conditions like schizophrenia or a bipolar disorder. Drugs and alcohol can also be a cause. I know I can have some pretty wild dreams if I have too much stout before bed. Unfortunately at 84 I don't have any R rated ones. But one thing we can be sure of is that the FBI won't have any hallucinations as it investigates criminal activity within the 2x2 Church. What a bunch of lunatic atheists. I think some of you are on drugs and blame it on John for doing. Some of you atheist on here Jesus didn’t raise from the dead! He is still dead, buried underground. In Act 7 before Stephen died he looked up and Saw Jesus standing up at His Father right hand to welcome him home. How can a dead man Jesus standing up when he supposed to be dead? Was Stephen on Drug or he was telling the truth? You ignorance is astounding and view of history is predetermined. You or the workers have convinced yourself the people in scripture are modelled present 2x2s.
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Post by chuck on Feb 26, 2024 17:36:38 GMT -5
I would like the FBI to investigate what happened to a a vast amount of money in the Christian Conventions of Victoria Trust, that was wound up to prevent paying compensation to CSA victims. I was told from an inside source that it was squirrelled away into Workers personal bank accounts. There was not any public disclosure of where the funds went. Just the shady way that the 2x2 Church has been operating, since its very beginning. Lying is their modus operandi.....
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Post by Annan on Feb 26, 2024 17:43:51 GMT -5
God has his own home, where he, his son and the angels home/Interior planet of Venus the High and Holy place, where they live together. Read the book of Revelation God the Father sits on the throne and his Son sits on His right hand and the true believers standing singing with ten thousands times ten thousands of Holy angels of God in heaven/Inside Venus planet. Yes, God the Father, Jesus and the Holy Spirit also lives in our hearts. God’s presence fills the Universe, there is no where in the Universe God can’t be at a moment notice. That literally sounds like hell to me. I can't imagine standing singing praises for eternity. For real, that would be absolute hell! I giggled when I read this. I can't help thinking God sounds like Trump.
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Post by chuck on Feb 26, 2024 17:48:42 GMT -5
God has his own home, where he, his son and the angels home/Interior planet of Venus the High and Holy place, where they live together. Read the book of Revelation God the Father sits on the throne and his Son sits on His right hand and the true believers standing singing with ten thousands times ten thousands of Holy angels of God in heaven/Inside Venus planet. Yes, God the Father, Jesus and the Holy Spirit also lives in our hearts. God’s presence fills the Universe, there is no where in the Universe God can’t be at a moment notice. That literally sounds like hell to me. I can't imagine standing singing praises for eternity. For real, that would be absolute hell! That's why they called the characteristics opposing good "Satan",all those characteristics did was drag you and people around back into darkness..... Nothing has changed.
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Post by chuck on Feb 26, 2024 17:51:29 GMT -5
I would like the FBI to investigate what happened to a a vast amount of money in the Christian Conventions of Victoria Trust, that was wound up to prevent paying compensation to CSA victims. I was told from an inside source that it was squirrelled away into Workers personal bank accounts. There was not any public disclosure of where the funds went. Just the shady way that the 2x2 Church has been operating, since its very beginning. You know what I found to be a huge slap in the face recently, was the letter SR wrote to the friends after he got caught with porn on his computer. He said that he was going into counselling immediately. Now I'm glad he is going for counselling, don't get me wrong. But any survivor that has not been able to afford counselling, that could have benefited from what the workers have squirreled away to get counselling for their trauma, would be wondering how these workers can afford in hospital stays for 'stress' like some have and they have to do without if they want to afford counselling or go without counselling at all. Lets just hope Snow that the laity ask the same question. They need something to flick the light switch on.
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Post by ForeverFree on Feb 26, 2024 19:17:13 GMT -5
Let us wait and see who is the HELL for an Eternity a Jew atheist or a believer in Jesus. We ALL KNOW Jesus teachings on that John 3:16-21. A believer in Jesus is heavenly bound; the atheist/unbeliever is HELL BOUND for eternity. Why, don’t you believe in Jesus teachings so you can be SAVED, Annie. Well, I will be back in 3 hours! I hope you open your Bible or Google John 3:16-21 Read it for yourself. For someone who refuses to answer why he won't report what he knows about CSA to the FBI and someone who by his own admission refuses to obey Jesus's teaching, you should be scared silly of being hell bound. You seriously need to work on your threats. Threatening me with something I don't believe in and that you can't prove is hysterical! Try again. You can Nathan out of the work, but you can't take the work out of Nathan. He continues to to try to intimidate, threaten, harass, oppress and persecute people for not believing what he believes. This is what the workers do best (or worst). He may have left the work, but he still continues to hold the mindset of a worker. "You are wrong, I am right and I will argue it until I look and sound like a stupid fool, but I am right and you are wrong so it doesn't really matter how stupid I look and sound."
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Post by Pragmatic on Feb 26, 2024 23:18:03 GMT -5
For someone who refuses to answer why he won't report what he knows about CSA to the FBI and someone who by his own admission refuses to obey Jesus's teaching, you should be scared silly of being hell bound. You seriously need to work on your threats. Threatening me with something I don't believe in and that you can't prove is hysterical! Try again. You can Nathan out of the work, but you can't take the work out of Nathan. He continues to to try to intimidate, threaten, harass, oppress and persecute people for not believing what he believes. This is what the workers do best (or worst). He may have left the work, but he still continues to hold the mindset of a worker. "You are wrong, I am right and I will argue it until I look and sound like a stupid fool, but I am right and you are wrong so it doesn't really matter how stupid I look and sound." Not all workers, but certainly some, and he's a past master at it.
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Post by Dan on Feb 27, 2024 1:34:40 GMT -5
I just red a bunch of post on Facebook by ex 2x2's.. Many complaining about the abuse they suffered through while in the Truth. These weren't people who were sexually assaulted or molested by anyone, but for some reason felt like they were abused? I don't get it. I think some people just thought it was too strict or didn't like the rules, but that's not abuse. Lots of 'poor baby' people who suffered nothing and are just looking for sympathy. They brag about the freedom they're experiencing now as though they just got out of prison or something. Then other ex-truthers congratulate them on their courage. They weren't prisoners, they just left a church, so I don't get all the commiserating going on about that? I guess they just found an excuse to attack something that didn't suit them and want to use that opportunity to jump on the bandwagon? Quite the scene for whiners.
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Post by nathan2 on Feb 27, 2024 8:52:26 GMT -5
God has his own home, where he, his son and the angels home/Interior planet of Venus the High and Holy place, where they live together. Read the book of Revelation God the Father sits on the throne and his Son sits on His right hand and the true believers standing singing with ten thousands times ten thousands of Holy angels of God in heaven/Inside Venus planet. Yes, God the Father, Jesus and the Holy Spirit also lives in our hearts. God’s presence fills the Universe, there is no where in the Universe God can’t be at a moment notice. That literally sounds like hell to me. I can't imagine standing singing praises for eternity. For real, that would be absolute hell! No, that is a glimpse of what the believers do in heaven like the 2x2 have the Sunday morning worship gathering once a week, special meeting once a year, and convention once a year. The rest of the days we must work, spending time with our families and so on. God has plenty of works for the believers to do in the Universe, billions of planets in each galaxy to explore and to meet billions of beings God created billions of years ago. It’s going to be the greatest adventure, exciting time for the TRUE believers to experience during the 1000 years reign.
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Post by nathan2 on Feb 27, 2024 9:12:16 GMT -5
I just red a bunch of post on Facebook by ex 2x2's.. Many complaining about the abuse they suffered through while in the Truth. These weren't people who were sexually assaulted or molested by anyone, but for some reason felt like they were abused? I don't get it. I think some people just thought it was too strict or didn't like the rules, but that's not abuse. Lots of 'poor baby' people who suffered nothing and are just looking for sympathy. They brag about the freedom they're experiencing now as though they just got out of prison or something. Then other ex-truthers congratulate them on their courage. They weren't prisoners, they just left a church, so I don't get all the commiserating going on about that? I guess they just found an excuse to attack something that didn't suit them and want to use that opportunity to jump on the bandwagon? Quite the scene for whiners. Amen, Dan… good observation. Read What Paul wrote in II Thess chapter 2: 1-13 the Great fallen away! To take place before Jesus returns or 2nd Coming. How they were deceived by Satan to depise and hated the Truth of God for that reason God send them a STRONG delusion that to believe in the LIES, so they should be dammed. They jumped out of a 2x2 frying pan into the BIGGER fire and don’t even KNOW it. Jesus spoke about the 10 virgins prior to his 2nd Coming! Only 5 wise virgins entered the wedding feast, the 5 foolish virgins left standing outside because they ran out of the oil/Spirit of the Lamb. It seems only 50% of God’s people and servants will make it when Jesus returns! Jesus said he that endures to the END shall be SAVED, and that is very scary to know. The doctrine of Once SAVED is Always Saved is false according Jesus teachings in the New Testament. Read what Jesus said to the 7 churches in Rev. to most of them to REPENT of their sins, some left their first love of truth and say they are rich in worldly goods, they don’t need God. False teachings brought in and encourage the believers to eat foods offered to idols, immortals were rampant. Jesus told them to REPENT and change their ways of lives or he will remove their names from the book of life and take away their crowns of life.
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Post by xna on Feb 27, 2024 9:22:01 GMT -5
No, that is a glimpse of what the believers do in heaven like the 2x2 have the Sunday morning worship gathering once a week, special meeting once a year, and convention once a year. The rest of the days we must work, spending time with our families and so on. God has plenty of works for the believers to do in the Universe, billions of planets in each galaxy to explore and to meet billions of beings God created billions of years ago. It’s going to be the greatest adventure, exciting time for the TRUE believers to experience during the 1000 years reign. Kolob nathan - god lives on Kolob. All that Venus talk doesn't make any sense. Everybody knows god lives on the planet Kolob
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Post by nathan2 on Feb 27, 2024 9:27:53 GMT -5
No, that is a glimpse of what the believers do in heaven like the 2x2 have the Sunday morning worship gathering once a week, special meeting once a year, and convention once a year. The rest of the days we must work, spending time with our families and so on. God has plenty of works for the believers to do in the Universe, billions of planets in each galaxy to explore and to meet billions of beings God created billions of years ago. It’s going to be the greatest adventure, exciting time for the TRUE believers to experience during the 1000 years reign. Kolob nathan god lives on Kolob. All that Venus talk doesn't make sense. Everybody knows god lives on the planet Kolob You better be careful you might get banned for posting that on the main board, some exes on here and Pragmatic, fixit, Curly and their cronies like them complaint these kinds of things to the Adm. Take your post to RkO and Nathan’s message board and I will go a few rounds with you and we don’t get in trouble over there. Start a new thread there with your Mormons video. By the way, the Mormons, didn’t get the location or the name of the correct planet, where God and Jesus live. I will show you MANY hard evidences and undeniable of proof from eyes witnesses accounts, the United States governments account, and the Guardians angels from Venus account and God the Father and Christ! own testimonies/account. I want to give a shout out to RKO! Thanks, for creating your and mine message board. Millions and billions of people around the world will thank you for it.
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Post by Lee on Feb 27, 2024 10:25:40 GMT -5
Bob Williston has proudly related on tmb, his wife’s governmental blessing in the form of licensing of sexual trafficking in the state of Nevada. Not that it matters what you say, but FWIW My wife had no role whatsoever in "trafficking". "Trafficking" involves trade in illegal goods. FWIW, she had no involvement with legislating anything in the state of Nevada. On the other hand, she was instrumental in having sexual "offenders" arrested not only in Nevada -- we also know of individuals in California as well. They tried. It didn't work for them. So I just left. Who was it who tipped over the first pedophile domino in this crescendo anyway? You? Prostitution is sexual trafficking
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Post by nathan2 on Feb 27, 2024 10:54:36 GMT -5
Not that it matters what you say, but FWIW My wife had no role whatsoever in "trafficking". "Trafficking" involves trade in illegal goods. FWIW, she had no involvement with legislating anything in the state of Nevada. On the other hand, she was instrumental in having sexual "offenders" arrested not only in Nevada -- we also know of individuals in California as well. They tried. It didn't work for them. So I just left. Who was it who tipped over the first pedophile domino in this crescendo anyway? You? Prostitution is sexual trafficking Lee, my buddy… I am a little confuse here. What is going on with BobW situation? Can you tell us in simple language, please. Is there a misunderstanding or communication between you and BobW? Thanks, my friend.
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Post by Lee on Feb 27, 2024 11:01:19 GMT -5
Bob shows more umbrage at sin in religion than he does in the world. With dialectical skill, he conveys to us the warning at I Peter 4:17
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Post by Annan on Feb 27, 2024 12:04:05 GMT -5
By the way, the Mormons, didn’t get the location or the name of the correct planet, where God and Jesus live. I will show you MANY hard evidences and undeniable of proof from eyes witnesses accounts, the United States governments account, and the Guardians angels from Venus account and God the Father and Christ! own testimonies/account. You mean liars, Natie. Hearsay and lies. Con artists.
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Post by Annan on Feb 27, 2024 12:06:19 GMT -5
You? Prostitution is sexual trafficking Lee, my buddy… I am a little confuse here. What is going on with BobW situation? Can you tell us in simple language, please. Is there a misunderstanding or communication between you and BobW? Thanks, my friend. Maybe it's none of you business, Natie. Perhaps you should keep your nose where it belongs. Would you like me to post the files I have on you?
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Post by Annan on Feb 27, 2024 12:26:13 GMT -5
Lee, my buddy… I am a little confuse here. What is going on with BobW situation? Can you tell us in simple language, please. Is there a misunderstanding or communication between you and BobW? Thanks, my friend. I still don’t understand but that is Ok. Nice backtrack, Natie. You were hoping for gossip and ammunition and you know it. Tell the truth now. Hell bound. Would you like me to post the files I have on you?
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Post by verna on Feb 27, 2024 12:28:26 GMT -5
I just red a bunch of post on Facebook by ex 2x2's.. Many complaining about the abuse they suffered through while in the Truth. These weren't people who were sexually assaulted or molested by anyone, but for some reason felt like they were abused? I don't get it. I think some people just thought it was too strict or didn't like the rules, but that's not abuse. Lots of 'poor baby' people who suffered nothing and are just looking for sympathy. They brag about the freedom they're experiencing now as though they just got out of prison or something. Then other ex-truthers congratulate them on their courage. They weren't prisoners, they just left a church, so I don't get all the commiserating going on about that? I guess they just found an excuse to attack something that didn't suit them and want to use that opportunity to jump on the bandwagon? Quite the scene for whiners. We know you don’t get it Dan. You’ve made that very clear. No point trying to explain.
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Post by fixit on Feb 27, 2024 13:04:26 GMT -5
I just red a bunch of post on Facebook by ex 2x2's.. Many complaining about the abuse they suffered through while in the Truth. These weren't people who were sexually assaulted or molested by anyone, but for some reason felt like they were abused? I don't get it. I think some people just thought it was too strict or didn't like the rules, but that's not abuse. Lots of 'poor baby' people who suffered nothing and are just looking for sympathy. They brag about the freedom they're experiencing now as though they just got out of prison or something. Then other ex-truthers congratulate them on their courage. They weren't prisoners, they just left a church, so I don't get all the commiserating going on about that? I guess they just found an excuse to attack something that didn't suit them and want to use that opportunity to jump on the bandwagon? Quite the scene for whiners. They weren't prisoners, they just left a church, so I don't get all the commiserating going on about that?To most, it's very much more than "just a church". For many, it's their culture. It's their life. How many generations of your forebears were in the church Dan? How many generations of your wife's forebears were in the church? How many generations of your siblings spouses were in the church? How many of your children are in the church? Their spouses? What percentage of your friends are in the church?
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Feb 27, 2024 13:44:49 GMT -5
Bob shows more umbrage at sin in religion than he does in the world. With dialectical skill, he conveys to us the warning at I Peter 4:17 You are always good for a laugh. Why, because you try to come across as an intellectual but you believe in mythology. Thanks for the entertainment.
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Post by snow on Feb 27, 2024 15:49:43 GMT -5
That literally sounds like hell to me. I can't imagine standing singing praises for eternity. For real, that would be absolute hell! No, that is a glimpse of what the believers do in heaven like the 2x2 have the Sunday morning worship gathering once a week, special meeting once a year, and convention once a year. The rest of the days we must work, spending time with our families and so on. God has plenty of works for the believers to do in the Universe, billions of planets in each galaxy to explore and to meet billions of beings God created billions of years ago. It’s going to be the greatest adventure, exciting time for the TRUE believers to experience during the 1000 years reign. I don't think I want to work for eternity either. Do you?
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Post by nathan2 on Feb 27, 2024 16:03:11 GMT -5
No, that is a glimpse of what the believers do in heaven like the 2x2 have the Sunday morning worship gathering once a week, special meeting once a year, and convention once a year. The rest of the days we must work, spending time with our families and so on. God has plenty of works for the believers to do in the Universe, billions of planets in each galaxy to explore and to meet billions of beings God created billions of years ago. It’s going to be the greatest adventure, exciting time for the TRUE believers to experience during the 1000 years reign. I don't think I want to work for eternity either. Do you? It’s NOT work! But an adventure full of wonders for eternity…. Can you imagine you go and visit far, far away billions of planets in each trillions galaxies and meetings all kinds of intelligence races of beings to help them to attain eternal life for them and their families.
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Post by mrdobalina on Feb 27, 2024 16:15:06 GMT -5
I just red a bunch of post on Facebook by ex 2x2's.. Many complaining about the abuse they suffered through while in the Truth. These weren't people who were sexually assaulted or molested by anyone, but for some reason felt like they were abused? I don't get it. I think some people just thought it was too strict or didn't like the rules, but that's not abuse. Lots of 'poor baby' people who suffered nothing and are just looking for sympathy. They brag about the freedom they're experiencing now as though they just got out of prison or something. Then other ex-truthers congratulate them on their courage. They weren't prisoners, they just left a church, so I don't get all the commiserating going on about that? I guess they just found an excuse to attack something that didn't suit them and want to use that opportunity to jump on the bandwagon? Quite the scene for whiners. You don't have to get it, their experiences and feelings are real, wether you agree with it or not. Your enthusiasm to invalidate their experiences because they are not your experiences, and label them as whiners is bigotry at its finest.
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