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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Feb 13, 2024 14:04:09 GMT -5
A money order is not cash. Cash is notes and coins. Why would you need a money order from the bank. In NZ we would just pay for stuff including cars with a debit card. In America to buy money Order from the bank, a person has to have money/cash in the account before they could issue the money order check! It’s much safer to pay for the Car with Money Order Check than cash, this way you don’t carry too much cash around after you leave the bank! The credit card limit for many of good credits owners are only 5-10,000 dollars. Do you have debit cards in the USA? |
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Post by fixit on Feb 13, 2024 14:26:47 GMT -5
In New Zealand we would simply log into the bank and do an online transfer to buy a car.
We stopped using paper for banking transactions some years ago, although if you really wanted to I guess you could use paper money.
I have heard of Chinese immigrants buying buildings with cash.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Feb 13, 2024 14:33:35 GMT -5
In New Zealand we would simply log into the bank and do an online transfer to buy a car. We stopped using paper for banking transactions some years ago, although if you really wanted to I guess you could use paper money. I have heard of Chinese immigrants buying buildings with cash. I reckon I have not used a cheque for around 25 years. As you say, here in NZ we just log in to our bank accounts and transfer money around. When I bought that new Toyota ute you saw me with I paid using my debit card at the dealers. Debit cards cover almost everything. I have heard stories of the antiquated system in the USA. |
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Post by xna on Feb 13, 2024 14:48:58 GMT -5
I reckon I have not used a cheque for around 25 years. As you say, here in NZ we just log in to our bank accounts and transfer money around. When I bought that new Toyota ute you saw me with I paid using my debit card at the dealers. Debit cards cover almost everything. I have heard stories of the antiquated system in the USA. I mainly use a personal check when paying cash for a car. But you often can get a better deal doing financing, then paying it off in one month. The car dealer gets a percent of the loan and you can sometimes get them to share in that finders fee. Car dealers limit how much you can put on a credit card as they pay a processing fee of about 2%. I have never been told I could use a debt card to buy a car. If you are paying cash, then they ask for a personal check or a bank check. The problem in the USA with using a debit cards is you have no fraud protection like with a credit card, and the money is debited immediately. My bank allows for several wire transfer options, but I have never used that feature for buying a car. I have sold a used car and accepting the buyers money via a wire transfer. |
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Feb 13, 2024 14:56:32 GMT -5
I reckon I have not used a cheque for around 25 years. As you say, here in NZ we just log in to our bank accounts and transfer money around. When I bought that new Toyota ute you saw me with I paid using my debit card at the dealers. Debit cards cover almost everything. I have heard stories of the antiquated system in the USA. I mainly use a personal check when paying cash for a car. But you often can get a better deal doing financing, then paying it off in one month. The car dealer gets a percent of the loan and you can sometimes get them to share in that finders fee. Car dealers limit how much you can put on a credit card as they pay a processing fee of about 2%. I have never been told I could use a debt card to buy a car. If you are paying cash, then they ask for a personal check or a bank check. The problem in the USA with using a debit cards is you have no fraud protection like with a credit card, and the money is debited immediately. My bank allows for several wire transfer options, but I have never used that feature for buying a car. I have sold a used car and accepting the buyers money via a wire transfer. We do have fraud protection on our debit cards here. Our banking laws are reasonably strong. |
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Post by Annan on Feb 13, 2024 15:20:49 GMT -5
In America to buy money Order from the bank, a person has to have money/cash in the account before they could issue the money order check! It’s much safer to pay for the Car with Money Order Check than cash, this way you don’t carry too much cash around after you leave the bank! The credit card limit for many of good credits owners are only 5-10,000 dollars. Do you have debit cards in the USA? Yes. But the limit is usually $1,000 to $2,000 per day. This is a direct withdrawal from your bank accounts. |
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Post by nathan2 on Feb 13, 2024 16:43:50 GMT -5
In America to buy money Order from the bank, a person has to have money/cash in the account before they could issue the money order check! It’s much safer to pay for the Car with Money Order Check than cash, this way you don’t carry too much cash around after you leave the bank! The credit card limit for many of good credits owners are only 5-10,000 dollars. Do you have debit cards in the USA? Yes, but my debit cards limit is only 2-5000 dollars. I don’t put too much money on my debit cards, for safety reasons. |
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Feb 13, 2024 16:56:39 GMT -5
Do you have debit cards in the USA? Yes, but my debit cards limit is only 2-5000 dollars. I don’t put too much money on my debit cards, for safety reasons. I think a debit card in the USA may be different to a debit card in modern western civilizations. A NZ debit card is just a card that gives access to ones accounts. In my case the one card gives access to three accounts. I can make any amount payment I like as long as there is sufficient funds in the account to cover it. When I bought a new Toyota Hilux ute 2 years ago I simply paid for it using the card. I did not realize at the time that I should have reported the purchase of my new car on TMB. |
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Post by nathan2 on Feb 13, 2024 18:42:54 GMT -5
Yes, but my debit cards limit is only 2-5000 dollars. I don’t put too much money on my debit cards, for safety reasons. I think a debit card in the USA may be different to a debit card in modern western civilizations. A NZ debit card is just a card that gives access to ones accounts. In my case the one card gives access to three accounts. I can make any amount payment I like as long as there is sufficient funds in the account to cover it. When I bought a new Toyota Hilux ute 2 years ago I simply paid for it using the card. I did not realize at the time that I should have reported the purchase of my new car on TMB. The American system works differently than from down under for sure. I let you folks know that we are NOT a fail family or a fail father and our son is a good son NOT a failure like a few people on here say we are! You know who you are  |
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Post by Annan on Feb 13, 2024 22:34:23 GMT -5
I think a debit card in the USA may be different to a debit card in modern western civilizations. A NZ debit card is just a card that gives access to ones accounts. In my case the one card gives access to three accounts. I can make any amount payment I like as long as there is sufficient funds in the account to cover it. When I bought a new Toyota Hilux ute 2 years ago I simply paid for it using the card. I did not realize at the time that I should have reported the purchase of my new car on TMB. The American system works differently than from down under for sure. I let you folks know that we are NOT a fail family or a fail father and our son is a good son NOT a failure like a few people on here say we are! You know who you are I beg to differ, Natie. You are a failure in that you have not convinced your son or your wife to profess. |
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Post by Lee on Feb 13, 2024 22:42:36 GMT -5
Let’s keep in mind Wally nearly died four months ago. Start a new thread
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Post by nathan2 on Feb 13, 2024 23:55:01 GMT -5
The American system works differently than from down under for sure. I let you folks know that we are NOT a fail family or a fail father and our son is a good son NOT a failure like a few people on here say we are! You know who you are I beg to differ, Natie. You are a failure in that you have not convinced your son or your wife to profess. My part is done, I gave them the message Jesus SAVES! The ball is in their court! serving God can’t be forced upon. God doesn’t want robots children but whom love to be His children by choice and NOT by forced. This is NOT over until the fat lady’s sing. While there is life there is hope. They still have the chance until their last breath to make their choice to accept Jesus Christ as their Savior. |
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Post by maryhig on Feb 14, 2024 1:12:08 GMT -5
Let’s keep in mind Wally nearly died four months ago. Start a new thread I wonder how he is? |
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Post by Lee on Feb 14, 2024 1:19:32 GMT -5
I texted his sister this evening. I’m not optimistic as he hasn’t been in good health for some time.
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Post by maryhig on Feb 14, 2024 1:33:17 GMT -5
I think a debit card in the USA may be different to a debit card in modern western civilizations. A NZ debit card is just a card that gives access to ones accounts. In my case the one card gives access to three accounts. I can make any amount payment I like as long as there is sufficient funds in the account to cover it. When I bought a new Toyota Hilux ute 2 years ago I simply paid for it using the card. I did not realize at the time that I should have reported the purchase of my new car on TMB. The American system works differently than from down under for sure. I let you folks know that we are NOT a fail family or a fail father and our son is a good son NOT a failure like a few people on here say we are! You know who you are Having no money in this world doesn't mean you've failed before God Nathan. But having pride does! Your children don't have to give you material things to show they are good either, they can love you and be good to you without money. Failure before God isn't being poor, and being rich isn't being a success before him either. That is how this world judge people, and we shouldn't care about what this world thinks of us, neither should we judge others by what they have or what they don't have. We should care about them regardless of what they own. The love of money is the root of all evil, and pride brings us to fall. We have to be careful what we do in this world, me included. |
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Post by maryhig on Feb 14, 2024 1:34:41 GMT -5
I texted his sister this evening. I’m not optimistic as he hasn’t been in good health for some time. I hope he's ok, will you let us know when you hear anything please? |
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Post by Lee on Feb 14, 2024 1:41:03 GMT -5
Of course. I’ve no doubt he’s well.
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Post by nathan2 on Feb 14, 2024 3:27:16 GMT -5
The American system works differently than from down under for sure. I let you folks know that we are NOT a fail family or a fail father and our son is a good son NOT a failure like a few people on here say we are! You know who you are Having no money in this world doesn't mean you've failed before God Nathan. But having pride does! Your children don't have to give you material things to show they are good either, they can love you and be good to you without money. Failure before God isn't being poor, and being rich isn't being a success before him either. That is how this world judge people, and we shouldn't care about what this world thinks of us, neither should we judge others by what they have or what they don't have. We should care about them regardless of what they own. The love of money is the root of all evil, and pride brings us to fall. We have to be careful what we do in this world, me included. You tell that to the atheists on here! Like Curly and Annie because They judged me for not having things in this life because they accused me of a failure business owner, a failed worker and so on last year! Where were you when they told me about it last year. Wally, can confirm these things to you! I have it on files. You shouldn’t judged a book by it’s cover. People have nice homes, cars and so on NOT because of Pride either. There are many rich 2x2s friends and they help the workers a lot, they help the needy in the world, the homeless, give their money to charities and so on. |
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Post by maryhig on Feb 14, 2024 4:24:41 GMT -5
Having no money in this world doesn't mean you've failed before God Nathan. But having pride does! Your children don't have to give you material things to show they are good either, they can love you and be good to you without money. Failure before God isn't being poor, and being rich isn't being a success before him either. That is how this world judge people, and we shouldn't care about what this world thinks of us, neither should we judge others by what they have or what they don't have. We should care about them regardless of what they own. The love of money is the root of all evil, and pride brings us to fall. We have to be careful what we do in this world, me included. You tell that to the atheists on here! Like Curly and Annie because They judged me for not having things in this life because they accused me of a failure business owner, a failed worker and so on last year! Where were you when they told me about it last year. Wally, can confirm these things to you! I have it on files. You shouldn’t judged a book by it’s cover. People have nice homes, cars and so on NOT because of Pride either. There are many rich 2x2s friends and they help the workers a lot, they help the needy in the world, the homeless, give their money to charities and so on. Does it really matter what anyone thinks of you Nathan? The more you get your back up, the more people will wind you up. I couldn't give a fig what people think of me. I only care what God thinks of me. And I would find it very hard to be rich and follow Jesus, because I don't think I could have a lot of money in the bank and see others in need. What would Jesus do? He'd share what he had I don't think he would have had much money for very long. If I ever came into money, I'd have to get rid of it quick because I believe it would take a hold on me. I'm just grateful to God to get by each day. Times have changed though, from what I've been told when they all started this way, they gave up their money and possessions, what happened? How come it's changed and now people in the 2x2s are rich? And do they help other 2x2s who are poor? Just wondering because I don't know how it all works now? Thanks |
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Post by Annan on Feb 14, 2024 7:51:29 GMT -5
You tell that to the atheists on here! Like Curly and Annie because They judged me for not having things in this life because they accused me of a failure business owner, a failed worker and so on last year! Where were you when they told me about it last year. Wally, can confirm these things to you! I have it on files. You shouldn’t judged a book by it’s cover. People have nice homes, cars and so on NOT because of Pride either. There are many rich 2x2s friends and they help the workers a lot, they help the needy in the world, the homeless, give their money to charities and so on. Does it really matter what anyone thinks of you Nathan? The more you get your back up, the more people will wind you up. I couldn't give a fig what people think of me. I only care what God thinks of me. And I would find it very hard to be rich and follow Jesus, because I don't think I could have a lot of money in the bank and see others in need. What would Jesus do? He'd share what he had I don't think he would have had much money for very long. If I ever came into money, I'd have to get rid of it quick because I believe it would take a hold on me. I'm just grateful to God to get by each day. Times have changed though, from what I've been told when they all started this way, they gave up their money and possessions, what happened? How come it's changed and now people in the 2x2s are rich? And do they help other 2x2s who are poor? Just wondering because I don't know how it all works now? ThanksBears repeating. Excellent. |
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Post by nathan2 on Feb 14, 2024 9:14:55 GMT -5
Does it really matter what anyone thinks of you Nathan? The more you get your back up, the more people will wind you up. I couldn't give a fig what people think of me. I only care what God thinks of me. And I would find it very hard to be rich and follow Jesus, because I don't think I could have a lot of money in the bank and see others in need. What would Jesus do? He'd share what he had I don't think he would have had much money for very long. If I ever came into money, I'd have to get rid of it quick because I believe it would take a hold on me. I'm just grateful to God to get by each day. Times have changed though, from what I've been told when they all started this way, they gave up their money and possessions, what happened? How come it's changed and now people in the 2x2s are rich? And do they help other 2x2s who are poor? Just wondering because I don't know how it all works now? ThanksBears repeating. Excellent. There are two callings in Jesus Christ 2x2 New Testament apostolic ministry and fellowship. Read Romans 1:1;7. Paul called to be an apostle to preach the gospel full time 24/7; Those in Rome the beloved of God called to be disciples/followers of Jesus. 1) The apostles to give up ALL of their possessions to start in the ministry (Matthew 19; Matthew 10; Luke 10; Romans 10:13-18) then God will provide all their natural needs such as foods, clothings, homes to stay for the nights, money for their journey/missions. (I Cor. 9) Paul wrote God and Christ set up how the Ministry are taken care of by their converts. The followers of Jesus NOT to SELL ALL when they become Jesus disciples, they can have their own homes, families and children, occupations to provide for their families. They can share the gospel message Jesus saves to anyone they come in contact with. When Jesus and the 82 apostles started in the ministry, they didn’t have no homes to stay with so, they slept wherever in an open sky. As time goes on, a few people became their followers, they gave the group money, foods to eat and money to spent. Jesus appointed Judas to hold the money bag. Likewise, when the first workers/apostles arrived to America and many countries around the world, they hardly had any new converts. They slept in an open sky, school yards, in the barns, going hungry without foods for days…. As time goes on people began to believed in their 2x2 Jesus Christ New Test. Ministry and fellowship, they welcome them in their homes to offer them meals, places to stay over nights, and give them money for their journey. The believers don’t go for the entertainments of this world, drugs and so on, they save a lot of money to help the ministry, the needy and many 2x2 leave their inheritance for furtherance of the gospel. There are Many 2x2s are wealthy so, they laying up treasures in heaven when they share their wealth with others who don’t have it. Jesus and the 2x2 workers started out with very little possessions but He said in Matthew 19, they shall gain 100 folds in this life and next life to come. The ministry is well taken care of as Jesus had foretold God would take care of His servants. Read Matthew chapter 6:25-34. He said to the apostles SEEK ye first the kingdom of God then all natural needs shall be given unto you. |
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Post by xna on Feb 14, 2024 9:41:00 GMT -5
I texted his sister this evening. I’m not optimistic as he hasn’t been in good health for some time. I hope he's ok, will you let us know when you hear anything please? I’m guessing he is in Manila |
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Post by nathan2 on Feb 14, 2024 9:48:08 GMT -5
I hope he's ok, will you let us know when you hear anything please? I’m guessing he is in Manila Wally, stationed in the Philippines when he was a sailor in the Navy. He might go to Manila to attend the conventions there starting very soon. |
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Post by xna on Feb 14, 2024 9:55:32 GMT -5
I’m guessing he is in Manila Wally, stationed in the Philippines when he was a sailor in the Navy. He might go to Manila to attend the conventions there starting very soon. I doubt that’s the reason, but then I’m just guessing. If he wants us to know, he may tell us. I hope he is OK regardless. He has been thru a lot lately. My guess he is just fine. |
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Post by nathan2 on Feb 14, 2024 10:12:43 GMT -5
Wally, stationed in the Philippines when he was a sailor in the Navy. He might go to Manila to attend the conventions they’re starting very soon. I doubt that’s the reason, but then I’m just guessing. If he wants us to know, he may tell us. I hope he is OK regardless. He has been thru a lot lately. My guess he is just fine. Wally, will tell us where he went after he gets back. Don’t worry be Happy! I do hope he attends conventions somewhere. He hold up in the house most of the time when he was taken care of his old age mother. Now, he has a lot of free time to do things, which he couldn’t do before. He lost some weight too after the surgery! Go, Wally. |
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Feb 14, 2024 12:37:49 GMT -5
I doubt that’s the reason, but then I’m just guessing. If he wants us to know, he may tell us. I hope he is OK regardless. He has been thru a lot lately. My guess he is just fine. Wally, will tell us where he went after he gets back. Don’t worry be Happy! I do hope he attends conventions somewhere. He hold up in the house most of the time when he was taken care of his old age mother. Now, he has a lot of free time to do things, which he couldn’t do before. He lost some weight too after the surgery! Go, Wally. My guess is he has gone to be with his mail order bride. |
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Post by nathan2 on Feb 14, 2024 13:00:02 GMT -5
Wally, will tell us where he went after he gets back. Don’t worry be Happy! I do hope he attends conventions somewhere. He hold up in the house most of the time when he was taken care of his old age mother. Now, he has a lot of free time to do things, which he couldn’t do before. He lost some weight too after the surgery! Go, Wally. My guess is he has gone to be with his mail order bride. He is too old for that JK of course! |
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Feb 14, 2024 13:14:55 GMT -5
My guess is he has gone to be with his mail order bride. He is too old for that JK of course! I wasn't joking. |
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