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Post by rk0atheist on Jan 22, 2024 8:32:40 GMT -5
The guy on the left gives a book review of "The Stranger at the Pentagon" by Frank E. Stranges. www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnax3O9AI8s Things I Learned Last Night Valiant Thor - The Alien Who Lived in the Pentagon Oct 25, 2021
Valiant Thor is the subject of a truly unbelievable story. We mean it. Tim doesn't even buy this one. Here's the story. Valiant Thor, or Val as his friends called him, was a humanoid alien living in an apartment inside the Pentagon. Val had a tight-knit relationship with President Eisenhower and was passionate about ending the possibility of nuclear war. Like many Aliens who have come to earth, Val had a goal for humanity, and he used the existing power structures to see it through. Thanks to his human-like appearance, Val was thought to be nothing more than an advisor to Eisenhower. Crazy story, but it does have a shred of believability because many high-ranking government officials speak of him as if he really was there. This is a story that would be revolutionary if it were true. This is the story of Valiant Thor.
The book on amazon.com:
Books›Religion & Spirituality›Occult & Paranormal The Stranger at the Pentagon (Revised) Paperback – December 15, 2001 by Frank E. Stranges Ph.D. (Author), & 2 more
www.amazon.com/Stranger-at-Pentagon-Revised/dp/1539057518/
An interview with Laura Eisenhower. Start at 1:58.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FHaGFkHULo&t=118s “Aliens Have Made Treaties With The US Government” | UFO Witness Quest TV Mar 27, 2022
Laura Eisenhower, President Eisenhower’s great-granddaughter, alleges that General Ike entered the US Government into treaties with extraterrestrial entities.
From Season 1 Episode 4
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Post by rk0atheist on Jan 22, 2024 8:58:43 GMT -5
I don't see it. It takes more imagination than I have to see a flying saucer in The Book of Ezekiel with "a wheel had been in the midst of a wheel". The section before the wheels clearly talks about wings. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Ezekiel
The Book of Ezekiel is the third of the Latter Prophets in the Tanakh (Hebrew Bible) and one of the major prophetic books in the Christian Bible, where it follows Isaiah and Jeremiah.[1] According to the book itself, it records six visions of the prophet Ezekiel, exiled in Babylon, during the 22 years from 593 to 571 BCE, although it is the product of a long and complex history and does not necessarily preserve the very words of the prophet.
Ezekiel 1:15-21 and 10:9-13. biblehub.com/kjv/ezekiel/1.htm
King James Bible Vision of the Four Wheels
15 Now as I beheld the living creatures, behold one wheel upon the earth by the living creatures, with his four faces.
16 The appearance of the wheels and their work was like unto the colour of a beryl: and they four had one likeness: and their appearance and their work was as it were a wheel in the middle of a wheel.
17 When they went, they went upon their four sides: and they turned not when they went.
18 As for their rings, they were so high that they were dreadful; and their rings were full of eyes round about them four.
19 And when the living creatures went, the wheels went by them: and when the living creatures were lifted up from the earth, the wheels were lifted up.
20 Whithersoever the spirit was to go, they went, thither was their spirit to go; and the wheels were lifted up over against them: for the spirit of the living creature was in the wheels.
21 When those went, these went; and when those stood, these stood; and when those were lifted up from the earth, the wheels were lifted up over against them: for the spirit of the living creature was in the wheels.
biblehub.com/ezekiel/10-10.htm
9 And when I looked, behold the four wheels by the cherubims, one wheel by one cherub, and another wheel by another cherub: and the appearance of the wheels was as the colour of a beryl stone.
10 And as for their appearances, they four had one likeness, as if a wheel had been in the midst of a wheel.
11 When they went, they went upon their four sides; they turned not as they went, but to the place whither the head looked they followed it; they turned not as they went.
12 And their whole body, and their backs, and their hands, and their wings, and the wheels, were full of eyes round about, even the wheels that they four had.
13 As for the wheels, it was cried unto them in my hearing, O wheel.
14 And every one had four faces: the first face was the face of a cherub, and the second face was the face of a man, and the third the face of a lion, and the fourth the face of an eagle.
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Post by snow on Jan 22, 2024 14:57:14 GMT -5
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Post by maryhig on Jan 23, 2024 11:42:39 GMT -5
I don't see it. It takes more imagination than I have to see a flying saucer in The Book of Ezekiel with "a wheel had been in the midst of a wheel". The section before the wheels clearly talks about wings. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Ezekiel
The Book of Ezekiel is the third of the Latter Prophets in the Tanakh (Hebrew Bible) and one of the major prophetic books in the Christian Bible, where it follows Isaiah and Jeremiah.[1] According to the book itself, it records six visions of the prophet Ezekiel, exiled in Babylon, during the 22 years from 593 to 571 BCE, although it is the product of a long and complex history and does not necessarily preserve the very words of the prophet.
Ezekiel 1:15-21 and 10:9-13. biblehub.com/kjv/ezekiel/1.htm
King James Bible Vision of the Four Wheels
15 Now as I beheld the living creatures, behold one wheel upon the earth by the living creatures, with his four faces.
16 The appearance of the wheels and their work was like unto the colour of a beryl: and they four had one likeness: and their appearance and their work was as it were a wheel in the middle of a wheel.
17 When they went, they went upon their four sides: and they turned not when they went.
18 As for their rings, they were so high that they were dreadful; and their rings were full of eyes round about them four.
19 And when the living creatures went, the wheels went by them: and when the living creatures were lifted up from the earth, the wheels were lifted up.
20 Whithersoever the spirit was to go, they went, thither was their spirit to go; and the wheels were lifted up over against them: for the spirit of the living creature was in the wheels.
21 When those went, these went; and when those stood, these stood; and when those were lifted up from the earth, the wheels were lifted up over against them: for the spirit of the living creature was in the wheels.
biblehub.com/ezekiel/10-10.htm
9 And when I looked, behold the four wheels by the cherubims, one wheel by one cherub, and another wheel by another cherub: and the appearance of the wheels was as the colour of a beryl stone.
10 And as for their appearances, they four had one likeness, as if a wheel had been in the midst of a wheel.
11 When they went, they went upon their four sides; they turned not as they went, but to the place whither the head looked they followed it; they turned not as they went.
12 And their whole body, and their backs, and their hands, and their wings, and the wheels, were full of eyes round about, even the wheels that they four had.
13 As for the wheels, it was cried unto them in my hearing, O wheel.
14 And every one had four faces: the first face was the face of a cherub, and the second face was the face of a man, and the third the face of a lion, and the fourth the face of an eagle.
It's Spiritual RK not literal. Just think if a wheel is within a wheel what would it do?
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Post by rk0atheist on Jan 23, 2024 12:48:32 GMT -5
It's Spiritual RK not literal. Just think if a wheel is within a wheel what would it do? What it would do would depend on what was connected to it. www.instructables.com/Basic-Gear-Mechanisms/
Step 10: Internal Gears
An internal gear is simply a gear with teeth on the inside rather than the outside. Internal gears can be used to reduce the amount of space a drive train takes up, or allow something to pass through the center of the axis as the gear is turning. Unlike normal spur gears, an internal gear rotates in the same direction as the normal spur gear spinning it.
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Post by maryhig on Jan 24, 2024 3:16:58 GMT -5
It's Spiritual RK not literal. Just think if a wheel is within a wheel what would it do? What it would do would depend on what was connected to it. www.instructables.com/Basic-Gear-Mechanisms/
Step 10: Internal Gears
An internal gear is simply a gear with teeth on the inside rather than the outside. Internal gears can be used to reduce the amount of space a drive train takes up, or allow something to pass through the center of the axis as the gear is turning. Unlike normal spur gears, an internal gear rotates in the same direction as the normal spur gear spinning it.
So as the inner wheel turns so the outer wheel moves also. This is like the Spirit of God in the heart, when he moves, we move. And we move as he moves us to do what's right and our axis is the living God. The picture you posted is exactly what I was thinking of. This below is within the link you posted "Gears are usually found in sets of two or more, used to transmit rotation from the axis of one gear to the axis of another. The teeth of a gear one one axis mesh with the teeth of a gear on another, thus creating a relationship between the rotation of the two axes. When one axis is spun, the other will too." This is how God works once the Spirit is within our hearts. And this is what Ezekiel means regarding a wheel within a wheel.
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Post by rk0atheist on Jan 24, 2024 4:01:40 GMT -5
What it would do would depend on what was connected to it. www.instructables.com/Basic-Gear-Mechanisms/
Step 10: Internal Gears
An internal gear is simply a gear with teeth on the inside rather than the outside. Internal gears can be used to reduce the amount of space a drive train takes up, or allow something to pass through the center of the axis as the gear is turning. Unlike normal spur gears, an internal gear rotates in the same direction as the normal spur gear spinning it.
So as the inner wheel turns so the outer wheel moves also. This is like the Spirit of God in the heart, when he moves, we move. And we move as he moves us to do what's right and our axis is the living God. The picture you posted is exactly what I was thinking of. This below is within the link you posted "Gears are usually found in sets of two or more, used to transmit rotation from the axis of one gear to the axis of another. The teeth of a gear one one axis mesh with the teeth of a gear on another, thus creating a relationship between the rotation of the two axes. When one axis is spun, the other will too." This is how God works once the Spirit is within our hearts. And this is what Ezekiel means regarding a wheel within a wheel. The Bible is a Rorschach test.
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Post by maryhig on Jan 24, 2024 4:21:10 GMT -5
So as the inner wheel turns so the outer wheel moves also. This is like the Spirit of God in the heart, when he moves, we move. And we move as he moves us to do what's right and our axis is the living God. The picture you posted is exactly what I was thinking of. This below is within the link you posted "Gears are usually found in sets of two or more, used to transmit rotation from the axis of one gear to the axis of another. The teeth of a gear one one axis mesh with the teeth of a gear on another, thus creating a relationship between the rotation of the two axes. When one axis is spun, the other will too." This is how God works once the Spirit is within our hearts. And this is what Ezekiel means regarding a wheel within a wheel. The Bible is a Rorschach test. Ok I had to Google that one! So are you saying that people see what they want to see in the Bible? Ok, so where have you literally seen wheels with real eyes on them? It's Spiritual, Ezekiel is speaking in the Spirit as did Moses, as did John in Revelation, as did Jesus in his parables and more, as did Paul, as did Peter. Many times they are speaking in the Spirit not the flesh. That test is with fleshly eyes, but God opens the inner eyes and ears. As Jesus says, those who have ears to hear, listen to what the Spirit says to the churches. The Bible is a set of spiritual books, written by men inspired of God. Those things you speak of are spiritual not literal. The words they speak are spiritual and they speak as God moves them to speak. Just like the wheel within a wheel.
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Post by rk0atheist on Jan 24, 2024 5:43:54 GMT -5
The Bible is a Rorschach test. Ok I had to Google that one! So are you saying that people see what they want to see in the Bible? Ok, so where have you literally seen wheels with real eyes on them? It's Spiritual, Ezekiel is speaking in the Spirit as did Moses, as did John in Revelation, as did Jesus in his parables and more, as did Paul, as did Peter. Many times they are speaking in the Spirit not the flesh. That test is with fleshly eyes, but God opens the inner eyes and ears. As Jesus says, those who have ears to hear, listen to what the Spirit says to the churches. The Bible is a set of spiritual books, written by men inspired of God. Those things you speak of are spiritual not literal. The words they speak are spiritual and they speak as God moves them to speak. Just like the wheel within a wheel.
I'm saying you are stuck in a loop. I'm saying you need to get out more. I'm saying you need to expand your life. You need to expand your view of the world. You have lived your entire life in one tiny little closet in a tiny little room. You need to get out of that tiny little closet and learn about the rest of the world.
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Post by maryhig on Jan 24, 2024 6:40:10 GMT -5
Ok I had to Google that one! So are you saying that people see what they want to see in the Bible? Ok, so where have you literally seen wheels with real eyes on them? It's Spiritual, Ezekiel is speaking in the Spirit as did Moses, as did John in Revelation, as did Jesus in his parables and more, as did Paul, as did Peter. Many times they are speaking in the Spirit not the flesh. That test is with fleshly eyes, but God opens the inner eyes and ears. As Jesus says, those who have ears to hear, listen to what the Spirit says to the churches. The Bible is a set of spiritual books, written by men inspired of God. Those things you speak of are spiritual not literal. The words they speak are spiritual and they speak as God moves them to speak. Just like the wheel within a wheel.
I'm saying you are stuck in a loop. I'm saying you need to get out more. I'm saying you need to expand your life. You need to expand your view of the world. You have lived your entire life in one tiny little closet in a tiny little room. You need to get out of that tiny little closet and learn about the rest of the world.
Blimey you think know me well considering you've never met me! Don't worry I know enough, I've been in the world thanks, and it's not for me. See the thing is this, I've been where you are, but you haven't been where I am. And thanks but the world has nothing in it that I desire, I'm not interested in it's ways, in the building up in it or the wanting everything else that it gives its all vanity! I'm happy as I am, I'm grateful for what I've got, and I'm blessed to know God.
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Post by rk0atheist on Jan 24, 2024 6:51:45 GMT -5
I'm saying you are stuck in a loop. I'm saying you need to get out more. I'm saying you need to expand your life. You need to expand your view of the world. You have lived your entire life in one tiny little closet in a tiny little room. You need to get out of that tiny little closet and learn about the rest of the world.
Blimey you think know me well considering you've never met me! Don't worry I know enough, I've been in the world thanks, and it's not for me. See the thing is this, I've been where you are, but you haven't been where I am. And thanks but the world has nothing in it that I desire, I'm not interested in it's ways, in the building up in it or the wanting everything else that it gives its all vanity! I'm happy as I am, I'm grateful for what I've got, and I'm blessed to know God.
You have never been where I am. Not even close.
You are right that I have never been where you are and I never will be. I know you because you constantly and endlessly and repeatedly pour out your inner thoughts on this message board. It's spiritual, it's spiritual, it's spiritual. Every time you don't understand something you slap the label "spiritual" on it and sweep it under the rug. What more is there to know about you?
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Post by maryhig on Jan 24, 2024 7:06:16 GMT -5
Blimey you think know me well considering you've never met me! Don't worry I know enough, I've been in the world thanks, and it's not for me. See the thing is this, I've been where you are, but you haven't been where I am. And thanks but the world has nothing in it that I desire, I'm not interested in it's ways, in the building up in it or the wanting everything else that it gives its all vanity! I'm happy as I am, I'm grateful for what I've got, and I'm blessed to know God.
You have never been where I am. Not even close.
You are right that I have never been where you are and I never will be. I know you because you constantly and endlessly and repeatedly pour out your inner thoughts on this message board. It's spiritual, it's spiritual, it's spiritual. Every time you don't understand something you slap the label "spiritual" on it and sweep it under the rug. What more is there to know about you?
No I don't just say it's Spiritual I give you the verses that I'm speaking about, and I explain why I see it as spiritual. You are the one who brought up the book of Ezekiel as if it's some sort of fake fairytale book, I'm just saying how I see it, written by a man inspired by the spirit of God. It's not literal because you don't get literal eyes on wheels blinking away at you. Just like in Genesis, you don't get a natural tree of good and evil that's obviously Spiritual. There are deeper meanings right through the Bible. But as Jesus says, you have to have the eyes to see. Just like those wheels!
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Post by rk0atheist on Jan 25, 2024 16:08:57 GMT -5
You are the one who brought up the book of Ezekiel as if it's some sort of fake fairytale book, I'm just saying how I see it, written by a man inspired by the spirit of God. I'm assuming you didn't view the video. If you had, you should have known it was Frank Stranges who said the Bible was talking about a flying saucer. www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnax3O9AI8sThings I Learned Last Night Valiant Thor - The Alien Who Lived in the Pentagon Oct 25, 2021
Valiant Thor is the subject of a truly unbelievable story. We mean it. Tim doesn't even buy this one. Here's the story. Valiant Thor, or Val as his friends called him, was a humanoid alien living in an apartment inside the Pentagon. Val had a tight-knit relationship with President Eisenhower and was passionate about ending the possibility of nuclear war. Like many Aliens who have come to earth, Val had a goal for humanity, and he used the existing power structures to see it through. Thanks to his human-like appearance, Val was thought to be nothing more than an advisor to Eisenhower. Crazy story, but it does have a shred of believability because many high-ranking government officials speak of him as if he really was there. This is a story that would be revolutionary if it were true. This is the story of Valiant Thor.
Things I Learned Last Night is an educational comedy podcast where best friends Jaron Myers and Tim Stone talk about random topics and have fun all along the way. If you like learning, and laughing a whole lot while you do, then you’ll love TILLN. Watch or listen to this episode today!
20:33 he wrote a book about the Bible and specifically the story in Frank Stranges meets Val Ezekiel, where there's a vision of an alien or not an alien, a vision of an angel that is described as a wheel within a wheel, a wheel, turning within a wheel, and so he says this has got to be aliens is his theory of Frank Strangers.
21:04 if you listen the wheel within a wheel, it's kind of like a UFO, it kind of looks like a flying saucer. If you imagine in your head that way, if you imagine a flying saucer, it kind of looks like one. You know, I give you really like it. You think flying saucer and you think that thing might be a flying saucer.
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Post by nathan2 on Jan 25, 2024 21:56:46 GMT -5
You are the one who brought up the book of Ezekiel as if it's some sort of fake fairytale book, I'm just saying how I see it, written by a man inspired by the spirit of God. I'm assuming you didn't view the video. If you had, you should have known it was Frank Stranges who said the Bible was talking about a flying saucer. www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnax3O9AI8sThings I Learned Last Night Valiant Thor - The Alien Who Lived in the Pentagon Oct 25, 2021
Valiant Thor is the subject of a truly unbelievable story. We mean it. Tim doesn't even buy this one. Here's the story. Valiant Thor, or Val as his friends called him, was a humanoid alien living in an apartment inside the Pentagon. Val had a tight-knit relationship with President Eisenhower and was passionate about ending the possibility of nuclear war. Like many Aliens who have come to earth, Val had a goal for humanity, and he used the existing power structures to see it through. Thanks to his human-like appearance, Val was thought to be nothing more than an advisor to Eisenhower. Crazy story, but it does have a shred of believability because many high-ranking government officials speak of him as if he really was there. This is a story that would be revolutionary if it were true. This is the story of Valiant Thor.
Things I Learned Last Night is an educational comedy podcast where best friends Jaron Myers and Tim Stone talk about random topics and have fun all along the way. If you like learning, and laughing a whole lot while you do, then you’ll love TILLN. Watch or listen to this episode today!
20:33 he wrote a book about the Bible and specifically the story in Frank Stranges meets Val Ezekiel, where there's a vision of an alien or not an alien, a vision of an angel that is described as a wheel within a wheel, a wheel, turning within a wheel, and so he says this has got to be aliens is his theory of Frank Strangers.
21:04 if you listen the wheel within a wheel, it's kind of like a UFO, it kind of looks like a flying saucer. If you imagine in your head that way, if you imagine a flying saucer, it kind of looks like one. You know, I give you really like it. You think flying saucer and you think that thing might be a flying saucer.
According to Valiant T. Dead Sea Scrolls, a few Old Testament prophet such as Ezekiel and the other prophets entered wheel within the wheel= Space Craft of the Venusians Holy angels. They flew Ezekiel above the earth planet and looking down the view was truly beautiful. I posted that information on TMB many times! You can read it on workers and ex-workers message board part II page 1 or 2.
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Post by Dan on Jan 26, 2024 0:03:49 GMT -5
Ok I had to Google that one! So are you saying that people see what they want to see in the Bible? Ok, so where have you literally seen wheels with real eyes on them? It's Spiritual, Ezekiel is speaking in the Spirit as did Moses, as did John in Revelation, as did Jesus in his parables and more, as did Paul, as did Peter. Many times they are speaking in the Spirit not the flesh. That test is with fleshly eyes, but God opens the inner eyes and ears. As Jesus says, those who have ears to hear, listen to what the Spirit says to the churches. The Bible is a set of spiritual books, written by men inspired of God. Those things you speak of are spiritual not literal. The words they speak are spiritual and they speak as God moves them to speak. Just like the wheel within a wheel.
I'm saying you are stuck in a loop. I'm saying you need to get out more. I'm saying you need to expand your life. You need to expand your view of the world. You have lived your entire life in one tiny little closet in a tiny little room. You need to get out of that tiny little closet and learn about the rest of the world.
Sometimes people find it preferable to be content with their belief, and a sincerely held belief forms their world view. A belief in God overrides any need to expand their world view because their thought process is incorporated and integrated around what they believe. When your convinced you have the truth, everything else becomes trivial. How do you expand on God? Even if knowledge of God emanates from a tiny closet, it surpasses all the information the rest of the world has to offer.
The point of view of an atheist puts more importance on what they can learn by searching and discovering non-biblical answers, so I understand your mindset.
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Post by rk0atheist on Jan 26, 2024 5:23:37 GMT -5
Sometimes people find it preferable to be content with their belief, and a sincerely held belief forms their world view. A belief in God overrides any need to expand their world view because their thought process is incorporated and integrated around what they believe. When your convinced you have the truth, everything else becomes trivial. How do you expand on God? Even if knowledge of God emanates from a tiny closet, it surpasses all the information the rest of the world has to offer. If they only stayed in their tiny little closets then the rest of us wouldn't have a problem. But often a tiny little closet isn't enough for them. Often their goal is a bigger house with the rest of us in their dungeon.
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Post by snow on Jan 26, 2024 16:25:19 GMT -5
Sometimes people find it preferable to be content with their belief, and a sincerely held belief forms their world view. A belief in God overrides any need to expand their world view because their thought process is incorporated and integrated around what they believe. When your convinced you have the truth, everything else becomes trivial. How do you expand on God? Even if knowledge of God emanates from a tiny closet, it surpasses all the information the rest of the world has to offer. If they only stayed in their tiny little closets then the rest of us wouldn't have a problem. But often a tiny little closet isn't enough for them. Often their goal is a bigger house with the rest of us in their dungeon. Exactly. That's why separation of church and state is so important. North America is a melting pot of all different religions and non believers. One religion forcing their beliefs on everyone is not the way to have a fair environment for all. Today the amount of people that are affiliated with any one religion is decreasing fast. But the ones that are religious seem to be getting more and more hostile to those who don't believe like them. I am older and I remember when politics and religion wasn't really talked about in 'polite society'. Now Islam and Christianity have become more like warriors instead of followers of Jesus' doctrine. Recently a preacher was talking about how his congregation didn't agree with something he preached about the meek inheriting the earth and turning the other cheek and what Jesus taught. They said it was too weak, it made Jesus look weak. I think a lot of Christians today would not have anything to do with Jesus if he showed up. They don't like helping the poor which was important to Jesus. It's usually atheists that advocate for helping those in need. We are seeing bills passed to quit food in school programs and bills rejected that could help others. I find that interesting.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2024 20:30:08 GMT -5
If they only stayed in their tiny little closets then the rest of us wouldn't have a problem. But often a tiny little closet isn't enough for them. Often their goal is a bigger house with the rest of us in their dungeon. Exactly. That's why separation of church and state is so important. North America is a melting pot of all different religions and non believers. One religion forcing their beliefs on everyone is not the way to have a fair environment for all. Today the amount of people that are affiliated with any one religion is decreasing fast. But the ones that are religious seem to be getting more and more hostile to those who don't believe like them. I am older and I remember when politics and religion wasn't really talked about in 'polite society'. Now Islam and Christianity have become more like warriors instead of followers of Jesus' doctrine. Recently a preacher was talking about how his congregation didn't agree with something he preached about the meek inheriting the earth and turning the other cheek and what Jesus taught. They said it was too weak, it made Jesus look weak. I think a lot of Christians today would not have anything to do with Jesus if he showed up. They don't like helping the poor which was important to Jesus. It's usually atheists that advocate for helping those in need. We are seeing bills passed to quit food in school programs and bills rejected that could help others. I find that interesting. Christians hands down donate more voluntarily to the poor than any other group on the planet, possible more than even what the USA does through Gov't programs and whatnot..
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Post by snow on Jan 27, 2024 16:44:55 GMT -5
Exactly. That's why separation of church and state is so important. North America is a melting pot of all different religions and non believers. One religion forcing their beliefs on everyone is not the way to have a fair environment for all. Today the amount of people that are affiliated with any one religion is decreasing fast. But the ones that are religious seem to be getting more and more hostile to those who don't believe like them. I am older and I remember when politics and religion wasn't really talked about in 'polite society'. Now Islam and Christianity have become more like warriors instead of followers of Jesus' doctrine. Recently a preacher was talking about how his congregation didn't agree with something he preached about the meek inheriting the earth and turning the other cheek and what Jesus taught. They said it was too weak, it made Jesus look weak. I think a lot of Christians today would not have anything to do with Jesus if he showed up. They don't like helping the poor which was important to Jesus. It's usually atheists that advocate for helping those in need. We are seeing bills passed to quit food in school programs and bills rejected that could help others. I find that interesting. Christians hands down donate more voluntarily to the poor than any other group on the planet, possible more than even what the USA does through Gov't programs and whatnot.. The Republican GOP do not support programs that gives anyone money because it's socialist. In North America there is a majority of Christians, so I would hope that they donate more voluntarily than any other group in North America. 71% of charity come from individuals, and small community groups. But legislating against food in schools and other very important social programs that help children and those in need is a Conservative thing and they are the ones that like to point out just how Christian they are. It's those terrible 'liberals' that seem to want to help people and the thanks they get is to be called socialists etc. Also, Evangelical Christians are the ones that are saying Jesus is too liberal and weak. That is what I was referring to when I pointed out that pastors are being told that their sermons make Jesus 'weak'. And these people are the ones supporting candidates in government that are opposing bills that help people. More traditional Christians vote in candidates that are for helping people more. So when I say a lot of Christians wouldn't support Jesus I probably should have been more specific like I have been here now. newrepublic.com/post/174950/christianity-today-editor-evangelicals-call-jesus-liberal-weak Moore told NPR in an interview released Tuesday that multiple pastors had told him they would quote the Sermon on the Mount, specifically the part that says to “turn the other cheek,” when preaching. Someone would come up after the service and ask, “Where did you get those liberal talking points?” “What was alarming to me is that in most of these scenarios, when the pastor would say, ‘I’m literally quoting Jesus Christ,’ the response would not be, ‘I apologize.’ The response would be, ‘Yes, but that doesn’t work anymore. That’s weak,’” Moore said. “When we get to the point where the teachings of Jesus himself are seen as subversive to us, then we’re in a crisis.”
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2024 18:13:28 GMT -5
Christians hands down donate more voluntarily to the poor than any other group on the planet, possible more than even what the USA does through Gov't programs and whatnot.. The Republican GOP do not support programs that gives anyone money because it's socialist. In North America there is a majority of Christians, so I would hope that they donate more voluntarily than any other group in North America. 71% of charity come from individuals, and small community groups. But legislating against food in schools and other very important social programs that help children and those in need is a Conservative thing and they are the ones that like to point out just how Christian they are. It's those terrible 'liberals' that seem to want to help people and the thanks they get is to be called socialists etc. Also, Evangelical Christians are the ones that are saying Jesus is too liberal and weak. That is what I was referring to when I pointed out that pastors are being told that their sermons make Jesus 'weak'. And these people are the ones supporting candidates in government that are opposing bills that help people. More traditional Christians vote in candidates that are for helping people more. So when I say a lot of Christians wouldn't support Jesus I probably should have been more specific like I have been here now. newrepublic.com/post/174950/christianity-today-editor-evangelicals-call-jesus-liberal-weak Moore told NPR in an interview released Tuesday that multiple pastors had told him they would quote the Sermon on the Mount, specifically the part that says to “turn the other cheek,” when preaching. Someone would come up after the service and ask, “Where did you get those liberal talking points?” “What was alarming to me is that in most of these scenarios, when the pastor would say, ‘I’m literally quoting Jesus Christ,’ the response would not be, ‘I apologize.’ The response would be, ‘Yes, but that doesn’t work anymore. That’s weak,’” Moore said. “When we get to the point where the teachings of Jesus himself are seen as subversive to us, then we’re in a crisis.”Most like the commies vote every time to continue entitlements... Voluntary help for the poor is noble forced (taxes, at the barrel end of a firearm) is anything but noble... Doubling the double the double programs doing the same thing isn't noble or honest either and shows entitlements aren't working as promised...
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Post by snow on Jan 27, 2024 18:29:53 GMT -5
The Republican GOP do not support programs that gives anyone money because it's socialist. In North America there is a majority of Christians, so I would hope that they donate more voluntarily than any other group in North America. 71% of charity come from individuals, and small community groups. But legislating against food in schools and other very important social programs that help children and those in need is a Conservative thing and they are the ones that like to point out just how Christian they are. It's those terrible 'liberals' that seem to want to help people and the thanks they get is to be called socialists etc. Also, Evangelical Christians are the ones that are saying Jesus is too liberal and weak. That is what I was referring to when I pointed out that pastors are being told that their sermons make Jesus 'weak'. And these people are the ones supporting candidates in government that are opposing bills that help people. More traditional Christians vote in candidates that are for helping people more. So when I say a lot of Christians wouldn't support Jesus I probably should have been more specific like I have been here now. newrepublic.com/post/174950/christianity-today-editor-evangelicals-call-jesus-liberal-weak Moore told NPR in an interview released Tuesday that multiple pastors had told him they would quote the Sermon on the Mount, specifically the part that says to “turn the other cheek,” when preaching. Someone would come up after the service and ask, “Where did you get those liberal talking points?” “What was alarming to me is that in most of these scenarios, when the pastor would say, ‘I’m literally quoting Jesus Christ,’ the response would not be, ‘I apologize.’ The response would be, ‘Yes, but that doesn’t work anymore. That’s weak,’” Moore said. “When we get to the point where the teachings of Jesus himself are seen as subversive to us, then we’re in a crisis.”Most like the commies vote every time to continue entitlements... Voluntary help for the poor is noble forced (taxes, at the barrel end of a firearm) is anything but noble... Doubling the double the double programs doing the same thing isn't noble or honest either and shows entitlements aren't working as promised... I don't see it that way at all. No surprise
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Post by BobWilliston on Jan 28, 2024 0:12:27 GMT -5
Exactly. That's why separation of church and state is so important. North America is a melting pot of all different religions and non believers. One religion forcing their beliefs on everyone is not the way to have a fair environment for all. Today the amount of people that are affiliated with any one religion is decreasing fast. But the ones that are religious seem to be getting more and more hostile to those who don't believe like them. I am older and I remember when politics and religion wasn't really talked about in 'polite society'. Now Islam and Christianity have become more like warriors instead of followers of Jesus' doctrine. Recently a preacher was talking about how his congregation didn't agree with something he preached about the meek inheriting the earth and turning the other cheek and what Jesus taught. They said it was too weak, it made Jesus look weak. I think a lot of Christians today would not have anything to do with Jesus if he showed up. They don't like helping the poor which was important to Jesus. It's usually atheists that advocate for helping those in need. We are seeing bills passed to quit food in school programs and bills rejected that could help others. I find that interesting. Christians hands down donate more voluntarily to the poor than any other group on the planet, possible more than even what the USA does through Gov't programs and whatnot.. toot toot
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Post by nathan2 on Feb 11, 2024 0:35:43 GMT -5
You are the one who brought up the book of Ezekiel as if it's some sort of fake fairytale book, I'm just saying how I see it, written by a man inspired by the spirit of God. I'm assuming you didn't view the video. If you had, you should have known it was Frank Stranges who said the Bible was talking about a flying saucer. www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnax3O9AI8sThings I Learned Last Night Valiant Thor - The Alien Who Lived in the Pentagon Oct 25, 2021
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20:33 he wrote a book about the Bible and specifically the story in Frank Stranges meets Val Ezekiel, where there's a vision of an alien or not an alien, a vision of an angel that is described as a wheel within a wheel, a wheel, turning within a wheel, and so he says this has got to be aliens is his theory of Frank Strangers.
21:04 if you listen the wheel within a wheel, it's kind of like a UFO, it kind of looks like a flying saucer. If you imagine in your head that way, if you imagine a flying saucer, it kind of looks like one. You know, I give you really like it. You think flying saucer and you think that thing might be a flying saucer.
I have been telling them for 15 years plus and posted MANY U.S. government whistle blowers documents and testimonies about Valiant, Donn Thor as the first official Visitors from the interior planet since 1930-2008 and beyond! I have Valiant Thor writings and books he had written for sales on Amazon.com. I read it and it’s very interesting indeed. I posted on TMB in the past, I have it on my files. Valiant, Donn Thor and Jesus Christ are NO frauds or Fake news, folks. The stories you read about Jesus is the Eternal God like God the Father and Holy Spirit are TRUE. Christ is Co-Creator of ALL things in the Universe with God the Father!
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Post by nathan2 on Mar 5, 2024 11:37:37 GMT -5
It's Spiritual RK not literal. Just think if a wheel is within a wheel what would it do? What it would do would depend on what was connected to it. www.instructables.com/Basic-Gear-Mechanisms/
Step 10: Internal Gears
An internal gear is simply a gear with teeth on the inside rather than the outside. Internal gears can be used to reduce the amount of space a drive train takes up, or allow something to pass through the center of the axis as the gear is turning. Unlike normal spur gears, an internal gear rotates in the same direction as the normal spur gear spinning it.
The wheel within the wheel is a space craft. The UFO is a round disk and on top is a circular dome= The wheel within the wheel. Maryh, get her spiritual things mixed up with literal things constantly because that doesn’t jive with her unbelief understanding. What she doesn’t understand, she turned them into spiritual lessons, and ignored the actual, reality events.
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Post by BobWilliston on Mar 6, 2024 2:00:34 GMT -5
What it would do would depend on what was connected to it. www.instructables.com/Basic-Gear-Mechanisms/
Step 10: Internal Gears
An internal gear is simply a gear with teeth on the inside rather than the outside. Internal gears can be used to reduce the amount of space a drive train takes up, or allow something to pass through the center of the axis as the gear is turning. Unlike normal spur gears, an internal gear rotates in the same direction as the normal spur gear spinning it.
The wheel within the wheel is a space craft. The UFO is a round disk and on top is a circular dome= The wheel within the wheel. Maryh, get her spiritual things mixed up with literal things constantly because that doesn’t jive with her unbelief understanding. What she doesn’t understand, she turned them into spiritual lessons, and ignored the actual, reality events. Profoundly prophetic.
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Post by nathan2 on Mar 6, 2024 2:36:38 GMT -5
The wheel within the wheel is a space craft. The UFO is a round disk and on top is a circular dome= The wheel within the wheel. Maryh, get her spiritual things mixed up with literal things constantly because that doesn’t jive with her unbelief understanding. What she doesn’t understand, she turned them into spiritual lessons, and ignored the actual, reality events. Profoundly prophetic. :🤩😉🥰
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Post by BobWilliston on Mar 6, 2024 2:42:13 GMT -5
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Post by nathan2 on Mar 6, 2024 12:00:32 GMT -5
You too will get over it also.
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