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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2023 9:52:04 GMT -5
You Wally have been trolling all night . Addiction problems ? What is your fav younggirlsforus. com Oh sleepy time talk to you B & S later To acknowledge that my daughter was subject to a rape after she professed at age 9 . Losing her father was at age 9 was the reason she turned to drugs . But if it makes you feel better carry on ! You are a…… What kind of delusion are you in now? Maybe seek some help...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2023 9:53:47 GMT -5
Ummm, all unrepentant sinners or unbelievers will end up in the same place...I don't remember your story, but while there is life there is hope... Yes we all have . At one point we were in THE WAY !!!! "At one point" won't do a bit of good...
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Post by openingact34 on Mar 25, 2023 11:24:01 GMT -5
I think the police are very much involved in this case. From what is stated in the letter it is obvious to me the workers are acting in the third party. They will have avoided mentioning the police, etc., to try and make the whole matter easier to take. The laptop and phone etc, will have been seized by the police. Hopefully they weren't dumb enough to destroy the electronics But so far this has all the hallmarks of a coverup. No mention of what organizations victims can contact for help. No mention of "contact Detective so and so if you have been a victim or have information" Just request of "come talk to US" (the workers) Emphasis on how he is no longer in a position to hurt anyone, so case closed! And a letter which claims to display transparency and wants to reach all the victims but is being shown eyes-only to select elders. Yep, just as I feared....half-assed coverup by God's anointed, chosen ones. As mandated reporters they are in some big trouble now. Note that the workers have also now deleted Dean's obituary in addition the the funeral livestream and guest book.
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Post by verna on Mar 25, 2023 11:27:43 GMT -5
Hopefully they weren't dumb enough to destroy the electronics But so far this has all the hallmarks of a coverup. No mention of what organizations victims can contact for help. No mention of "contact Detective so and so if you have been a victim or have information" Just request of "come talk to US" (the workers) Emphasis on how he is no longer in a position to hurt anyone, so case closed! And a letter which claims to display transparency and wants to reach all the victims but is being shown eyes-only to select elders. Bruer has escaped temporal justice. However in cases such as this it can turn out to be a spider's web or network of sexually deviant operatives spanning across not just States but also the World (if you consider a person's ability to travel). That is not to say this case goes beyond Bruer but I believe there is every likelihood that it does. Whilst others may be found amongst the unsaved, there could well be perpetrators and victims within the group. Would any sister worker who has been a victim be willing to come forward and tell all, bringing shame on the group and strangely on herself, with all the implications that would have for the group and herself? That would be the end of professing for her, one way or another. Laptops and phones are oft used communication devices in these matters and provide invaluable evidential data. I wouldn't get worked up about what the workers disclose or don't disclose and to whom at this stage. It's irrelevant and an unnecessary distraction. This matter, for the time being is way above their heads and abilities. With ongoing investigations it is best they shut up and let the authorities get on with their work. The workers should be cooperating with and following guidance from the police, so they will be subject to their advice. The demise of Bruer could bring a fairly swift cessation to proceedings unless other living culprits come out the bag. Normally at the beginning of these type of cases the hope is that the matter is confined to one or two suspects (for ease of investigation amongst other matters), but in most cases a can of worms is opened with far more tentacles than an octopus. By the sounds of it many sister workers are stepping up.
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Post by verna on Mar 25, 2023 11:29:37 GMT -5
Have ya ever heard of Adam and Eve? Moses? King David? Solomon? Judas? Ananias and Sapphira? Lots of people commit sins knowing full well the consequences. Some choose to ignore, some think they'll live long enough to correct it, some don't care. Sex, Power and Money makes people do evil sheet all the time. For many impulses aren't always controllable when in the moment. Should all evil impulses be controlled? Sure, but none of us are Jesus when it gets down to it. And here's a funny thing. I'm not a worker in fact I'm not even a 2x2, i don't worship any kind of god, and yet I'm in a far better position to recieve eternal awesomeness than this senior worker and regional overseer due to my own personal values an subsequent behavoiur. I am rather fond of that term - “eternal awesomeness”!!!
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Post by 1chinesewhispers on Mar 25, 2023 12:03:06 GMT -5
Yes we all have . At one point we were in THE WAY !!!! "At one point" won't do a bit of good... shut the f up . You are a disgusting human being May your god have mercy on your soul . Try to REMEMBER THERE CAN BE 100’s COMING FORWARD ! Stop using your WISDOM ASS WIPE if you have any . I am focusing on the victims and working with law enforcement today . Better things to do other than adding your name to an offender list ,because you are hurting many ! "At one point" won't do a bit of good... What age are you ? My great grandkids have a better education than you ! Seriously dude go for a long walk ! There are obviously serious reasons you were not acceptable to be a worker and it shows on here . Oh nap time again As worker’s list are being reviewed today . Plus travels of Dean !
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Dean Bruer
Mar 25, 2023 12:12:10 GMT -5
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Post by 1chinesewhispers on Mar 25, 2023 12:12:10 GMT -5
Hopefully they weren't dumb enough to destroy the electronics But so far this has all the hallmarks of a coverup. No mention of what organizations victims can contact for help. No mention of "contact Detective so and so if you have been a victim or have information" Just request of "come talk to US" (the workers) Emphasis on how he is no longer in a position to hurt anyone, so case closed! And a letter which claims to display transparency and wants to reach all the victims but is being shown eyes-only to select elders. Yep, just as I feared....half-assed coverup by God's anointed, chosen ones. As mandated reporters they are in some big trouble now. Note that the workers have also now deleted Dean's obituary in addition the the funeral livestream and guest book. Wow dirty deeds done dirt cheap . They wiped his phone and sat on the info ……. Thank you for the post regarding who to contact . I have given the number .
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Post by mountain on Mar 25, 2023 12:13:41 GMT -5
Bruer has escaped temporal justice. However in cases such as this it can turn out to be a spider's web or network of sexually deviant operatives spanning across not just States but also the World (if you consider a person's ability to travel). That is not to say this case goes beyond Bruer but I believe there is every likelihood that it does. Whilst others may be found amongst the unsaved, there could well be perpetrators and victims within the group. Would any sister worker who has been a victim be willing to come forward and tell all, bringing shame on the group and strangely on herself, with all the implications that would have for the group and herself? That would be the end of professing for her, one way or another. Laptops and phones are oft used communication devices in these matters and provide invaluable evidential data. I wouldn't get worked up about what the workers disclose or don't disclose and to whom at this stage. It's irrelevant and an unnecessary distraction. This matter, for the time being is way above their heads and abilities. With ongoing investigations it is best they shut up and let the authorities get on with their work. The workers should be cooperating with and following guidance from the police, so they will be subject to their advice. The demise of Bruer could bring a fairly swift cessation to proceedings unless other living culprits come out the bag. Normally at the beginning of these type of cases the hope is that the matter is confined to one or two suspects (for ease of investigation amongst other matters), but in most cases a can of worms is opened with far more tentacles than an octopus. By the sounds of it many sister workers are stepping up. I hope you are right. Changed days if so. Badly needed. (Vernz)
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Post by 1chinesewhispers on Mar 25, 2023 12:20:35 GMT -5
By the sounds of it many sister workers are stepping up. I hope you are right. Changed days if so. Badly needed. (Vernz) This is heartbreaking 💔 for all victims . Please reach out to resources available .
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Dean Bruer
Mar 25, 2023 12:43:49 GMT -5
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Post by 1chinesewhispers on Mar 25, 2023 12:43:49 GMT -5
As a survivor……….. I’m literally shaking and stammering at this point in time . THERE ARE OTHER SURVIVORS ON HERE ! The impact is phenomenal and we are trying to cope . My coping will continue with multiple naps today . I am seeking sanctuary presently and answering questions from CPS . The magnitude of this is being felt everywhere that cretinism went .
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Post by 1chinesewhispers on Mar 25, 2023 12:49:51 GMT -5
You Wally have been trolling all night . Addiction problems ? What is your fav younggirlsforus. com Oh sleepy time talk to you B & S later To acknowledge that my daughter was subject to a rape after she professed at age 9 . Losing her father was at age 9 was the reason she turned to drugs . But if it makes you feel better carry on ! You are a…… What kind of delusion are you in now? Maybe seek some help... watch your words Wally ! YOU ARE HURTING MANY ASS-OLE No delusion it was sent to me for a reason . You are not even above the law . You are inflicting harm upon survivors . I don’t have delusions but maybe you do . Oh wait you do mister internet worker . I have all the assistance I need . Yes I have mental health issues but that’s not one of them . Under Canadian laws you can be charged ! Ah nap time again . Now you are disparaging my daughter’s rape on Didsbury convention grounds after she professed at age 9 She carried that betrayal her entire life . Even up to her death .
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Mar 25, 2023 14:06:25 GMT -5
Bruer has escaped temporal justice. However in cases such as this it can turn out to be a spider's web or network of sexually deviant operatives spanning across not just States but also the World (if you consider a person's ability to travel). That is not to say this case goes beyond Bruer but I believe there is every likelihood that it does. Whilst others may be found amongst the unsaved, there could well be perpetrators and victims within the group. Would any sister worker who has been a victim be willing to come forward and tell all, bringing shame on the group and strangely on herself, with all the implications that would have for the group and herself? That would be the end of professing for her, one way or another. Laptops and phones are oft used communication devices in these matters and provide invaluable evidential data. I wouldn't get worked up about what the workers disclose or don't disclose and to whom at this stage. It's irrelevant and an unnecessary distraction. This matter, for the time being is way above their heads and abilities. With ongoing investigations it is best they shut up and let the authorities get on with their work. The workers should be cooperating with and following guidance from the police, so they will be subject to their advice. The demise of Bruer could bring a fairly swift cessation to proceedings unless other living culprits come out the bag. Normally at the beginning of these type of cases the hope is that the matter is confined to one or two suspects (for ease of investigation amongst other matters), but in most cases a can of worms is opened with far more tentacles than an octopus. By the sounds of it many sister workers are stepping up. I vaguely recall that Bruer attended NZ and OZ conventions. Which makes me wonder whether he offended here. His offending seems to be a lot like that other cult leader in Waco.
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Post by mrdobalina on Mar 25, 2023 14:34:51 GMT -5
Have ya ever heard of Adam and Eve? Moses? King David? Solomon? Judas? Ananias and Sapphira? Lots of people commit sins knowing full well the consequences. Some choose to ignore, some think they'll live long enough to correct it, some don't care. Sex, Power and Money makes people do evil sheet all the time. For many impulses aren't always controllable when in the moment. Should all evil impulses be controlled? Sure, but none of us are Jesus when it gets down to it. Good points Wally. Well said. However, there are limits, especially for disobedient women. Do not cut your hair. Do not wear trousers. Pants means lower underwear in the UK. You must wear these! Jewellery.....nuff said. So Dean is off the hook then, because there is biblical precedent and he was sorry?
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Post by mountain on Mar 25, 2023 14:47:17 GMT -5
Good points Wally. Well said. However, there are limits, especially for disobedient women. Do not cut your hair. Do not wear trousers. Pants means lower underwear in the UK. You must wear these! Jewellery.....nuff said. So Dean is off the hook then, because there is biblical precedent and he was sorry? Dobs/Chuck, you obviously didn't see the tongue in cheek element in my post? However, Dean was never on the hook for cutting his hair, wearing trousers or a watch.
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Post by snow on Mar 25, 2023 15:22:33 GMT -5
I don’t buy their stories for one minute Have faith. Trust me. With victims coming forward and the details of information found on computer and phone, strongly suggests to me these things have been seized for technical examination. I suspect the above letter is something the workers felt they had to do in view of the bombshell that is about to explode. They will need tech to get back the phone info. It was wiped and given to another worker apparently.
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Post by fixit on Mar 25, 2023 15:25:08 GMT -5
Paedophilia is a diagnosed psychiatric disorder, not a crime and not a sin. Child sexual abuse is both a crime and a sin. Neither paedophilia or child sexual abuse are crimes either in statute or common law. Both behaviours encompass criminal behaviours when acted upon and are categorised by statute and common laws (depending on country, etc). I get what you are saying about paedophilia, but your understanding is no different to a person who commits murder whilst insane. It's still murder but the medical condition has to be taken into account. Paedophilia and insanity are not crimes. Sexual abuse of children and murder are crimes.
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Post by fixit on Mar 25, 2023 15:30:06 GMT -5
Just to be clear....it was a worker who wrote the letter. Not the police. No one said the police wrote it. I was trying to make sense of your comment about going to the police. Your twisted logic hurts my head. So now we are suppose to consult the workers about CSA when they are all "enablers of CSA". What happened to going to the police first? And leave workers out of it?
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Post by snow on Mar 25, 2023 15:48:56 GMT -5
"You are gaslighting" is not a joke by any measure, its psychological manipulation. Very real and pretty bad. You can continue to do that though if you want... I'll need a bit more confirmation for this "internet delivered" letter before I'll do that, that's what rational people do anyways... I don't remember seeking your respect or approval on anything to be honest... If I defend the "way" no matter what, you attack the "way" no matter what... None of the above is in jest... You’re right, Wally. This is a serious & intense situation, if true. However, the ‘source’ of this information isn’t confirmed. It’s hasty to judge someone guilty until the facts are known. It would be easy to get the facts right now, but the whole thing is so upsetting. I have no desire to discuss this with any local friends right now (perhaps never) because the thought of this being true makes me physically sick. I’d rather let it all play out on its own. But, I agree….the ‘source’ of the letter sounds off. I could be wrong though (I often am!) Just so you know the laptop and phone were handed in by the workers to the Oregon Sheriff's office.
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Post by snow on Mar 25, 2023 15:59:37 GMT -5
Paedophilia is not a sin. CSA is a sin. ? I hope I misunderstand your post. Can you please elaborate? I think I’m not understanding y. Pedophilia is a condition not a sin. Being a pedophile that has actually assaulted children is what is wrong. Not the condition. Fixit can correct me if that's not what he meant.
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Post by snow on Mar 25, 2023 16:07:19 GMT -5
Not a knee jerk response. Do you really believe the workers would include in a letter to the elders that it was not to be shared with anyone else -- they don't get caught proving they have such distrust of the lay people in general. I have a suspicion about why it was only for elder consumption. They know that elders are the other type of F&W who often get caught in sexual misconduct, so the message is, "Keep it clean, guys!" The letter never states not to share...So what are you reading that's not there? Have you received it from your elder? I would say by the way you're responding that it hasn't been shared with you. Your elder may or may not even know. Sharing with everyone means everyone in the Truth, not just the workers and some elders. If it has been shared with you then good. That's how it should be.
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Post by mountain on Mar 25, 2023 16:41:23 GMT -5
Neither paedophilia or child sexual abuse are crimes either in statute or common law. Both behaviours encompass criminal behaviours when acted upon and are categorised by statute and common laws (depending on country, etc). I get what you are saying about paedophilia, but your understanding is no different to a person who commits murder whilst insane. It's still murder but the medical condition has to be taken into account. Paedophilia and insanity are not crimes. Sexual abuse of children and murder are crimes. Actions resulting from paedophilia are most certainly crimes. That's the point I'm trying to make. It has been argued that Kleptomania and pyromania are mental disorders, but the actions they bring out in persons are indeed crimes. There are many compulsive disorders which cause people to commit crimes associated with their compulsion. You are trying to isolate one of them and make it different. Here is a link to paraphiliac behaviour, of which paedophilia is one. When expressed they all result in criminal behaviour. www.webmd.com/sexual-conditions/guide/paraphilias-overviewHere is a particular quote from the article: How Common Are Paraphilias?
Most paraphilias are rare and are about 20 times more common among males than among females. However, the reason for this disparity is not clearly understood. While several of these disorders are associated with aggressive behavior, others are not aggressive or harmful. Some paraphilias -- such as pedophilia, exhibitionism, voyeurism, sadism, and frotteurism -- are criminal offenses.
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Post by mountain on Mar 25, 2023 16:50:54 GMT -5
Have faith. Trust me. With victims coming forward and the details of information found on computer and phone, strongly suggests to me these things have been seized for technical examination. I suspect the above letter is something the workers felt they had to do in view of the bombshell that is about to explode. They will need tech to get back the phone info. It was wiped and given to another worker apparently. At the time I posted, it had been stated the laptop and phone had been seized (handed over). We have since learned this was not the case with the phone and that it had been cleared. However, that situation may still be retrievable, I'm not sure? However, if they get the names of associated suspects, their phones and laptops can be seized.
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Post by BobWilliston on Mar 25, 2023 17:09:39 GMT -5
No, that's not gaslighting. She's not deceiving you at all. Trying to pass it off as just irony is gaslighting. Look up irony if you want to... Gaslighting IS NOT irony.
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Post by BobWilliston on Mar 25, 2023 17:10:54 GMT -5
I agree. Who would believe a letter a worker wrote?? Typed letters can be from anyone. Few here respect or believe workers anyway, why are we starting now? We're not all liars, Wally.
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Post by BobWilliston on Mar 25, 2023 17:11:47 GMT -5
The town (if you can call it even a town) is a common stopover place to rest. It’s pretty much in the middle of no where. I can’t imagine it being a place to sowed one’s wild seed. And Wally isn’t in Oregon BTW. Fixit and more than a few others here rarely deal in facts. We're not all liars.
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Post by BobWilliston on Mar 25, 2023 17:13:17 GMT -5
Wannabee pedos? That sounds more than deranged as an observation. Just something for you to investigate.
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Post by BobWilliston on Mar 25, 2023 17:16:27 GMT -5
No Wally is in Seattle area . Already knew that but thx TIPS ! Nate is in Portland area . There goes Wally again , attack mode ….. Fixit and more than a few others here rarely deal in facts. Putting people down again because it probably makes him feel better Go pull your goalie ! Saying that some people want to be pedo's is NOT deranged? How did you come to that conclusion? Before you go too far with this -- prove to us that Dean didn't lurk here. Pedos lurk in the shadows, you know. He'd not be the first "PEDO" to lurk here.
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Post by BobWilliston on Mar 25, 2023 17:17:14 GMT -5
Wannabee pedos? That sounds more than deranged as an observation. I also thought it was a strange comment by the Bobsters. You'll get used to my relationship with truth.
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