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Post by verna on Mar 29, 2023 16:33:58 GMT -5
So yet another worker speaking . My sources are well vetted Dear LA, MS and AL Elders and Friends, This is to acknowledge the report of the misconduct of Dean Bruer, a worker/ overseer, now deceased, from OR, of whom you may be hearing about. The immoral conduct, that isn't to be named even once amongst the saints, how much less of servants, is condemned . For those who are hurt by these actions, beginning with the victims, we pray that they may find the support needed from being believed and comforted in knowing that this is not tolerated amongst us. In the aftermath of this, my thoughts go back to the time that Dean last visited in LA. If there's anyone who had any unwelcome encounters with him at that time, I was not made aware of it. I'm keenly aware of the need to encourage everyone amongst us to be free to report to authorities anything, such as Child Sexual Abuse, or misconduct of servant or saint. Edit We on the LA, MS and AL staff of workers participate in an educational resource called Ministry Safe, which instructs us to be aware of Child Sexual Abuse and how to conduct oneself and ministry to be safe. On behalf of those of us in the ministry I offer thanks for your support and trust, and pledge to not betray that. Your brother, [Robert Eberhardt] Good this guy encouraged victims to report but how the hell do You report something that you cannot even name? People need to learn to use their words and the proper words to describe things. Set an example there dude!
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Post by mrdobalina on Mar 29, 2023 16:43:15 GMT -5
So yet another worker speaking . My sources are well vetted Dear LA, MS and AL Elders and Friends, This is to acknowledge the report of the misconduct of Dean Bruer, a worker/ overseer, now deceased, from OR, of whom you may be hearing about. The immoral conduct, that isn't to be named even once amongst the saints, how much less of servants, is condemned . For those who are hurt by these actions, beginning with the victims, we pray that they may find the support needed from being believed and comforted in knowing that this is not tolerated amongst us. In the aftermath of this, my thoughts go back to the time that Dean last visited in LA. If there's anyone who had any unwelcome encounters with him at that time, I was not made aware of it. I'm keenly aware of the need to encourage everyone amongst us to be free to report to authorities anything, such as Child Sexual Abuse, or misconduct of servant or saint. Edit We on the LA, MS and AL staff of workers participate in an educational resource called Ministry Safe, which instructs us to be aware of Child Sexual Abuse and how to conduct oneself and ministry to be safe. On behalf of those of us in the ministry I offer thanks for your support and trust, and pledge to not betray that. Your brother, [Robert Eberhardt] Good this guy encouraged victims to report but how the hell do You report something that you cannot even name? People need to learn to use their words and the proper words to describe things. Set an example there dude! In response to this post, I have copied the following from another site. I understand that the investigators name is Cynthia. There is a private investigator that specializes in CSA cases across the nation and has been working on compiling the names of perpetrators inside the “Truth.” She is working with law enforcement in multiple states and is not apart of the “Truth.” All tips and messages will be confidential. 24 hour hotline. You can call or text the number below. 503-386-4634
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Dean Bruer
Mar 29, 2023 16:47:12 GMT -5
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Post by 1chinesewhispers on Mar 29, 2023 16:47:12 GMT -5
Vinny please feel free to share this as well ! There is a private investigator that specializes in CSA cases across the nation and has been working on compiling the names of perpetrators inside the "Truth." She is working with law enforcement in multiple states and is not apart of the "Truth." All tips and messages will be confidential. DM me if you have any questions or concerns. 24 hour hotline. You can call or text the number below. 503-386-4634 Make no mistake we in Canada have our own problem workers . I personally know victims . I am a survivor and will be turning 62 . From 2-13 I endured CSA , RAPE , FIGHTING MY WAY OUT OF CARS ! Scratching someone’s face off to get out of that offenders brown/white top car .
I you have questions or information about the deeds , please check in with the P. I. This is from Canada 🇨🇦 which has its own issues such as we are seeing here . I also personally know a sister worker whom was raped . We bonded over our stories and about actually taking medication to get through a day . She has passed and I miss her emails terribly .
Do not assume we don’t know how the law works in THE USA & CANADA ! You are new on here . Up until last week there were court proceedings against a VERY CLOSE FAMILY MEMBER who raped me . The proceedings are stopped as I am taking a free stay in the SSU ! For my mental health wellness ! I could tell you stories that would make you bolt to the bathroom and retch . I am well aware of CSA and have been in counseling for CSA . We want the TRUTH ! Police officers have been in my family life for over well over 30 years . They even know what happened to my 9 year old daughter who professed at Didsbury Convention . She became a CSA not to many hours past professing . My child went on to endure more . She passed away at 39 years of age from COVID-19 in Saskatoon . I am truly grateful she has passed because this would have killed her . Not going to into anymore other than my daughter was a victim more than once and even in her last days we would still have conversations about it . Until she was put on a ventilator , which she was taken off after 10 days . I allowed my child to pass away where she wished which was at home with family and her 5 cats . I hope she is healed . Many police officers are extremely good friends because of her trauma . I will never speak about the final and last conversation we had !
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Dean Bruer
Mar 29, 2023 16:48:10 GMT -5
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Post by 1chinesewhispers on Mar 29, 2023 16:48:10 GMT -5
Good this guy encouraged victims to report but how the hell do You report something that you cannot even name? People need to learn to use their words and the proper words to describe things. Set an example there dude! In response to this post, I have copied the following from another site. I understand that the investigators name is Cynthia. There is a private investigator that specializes in CSA cases across the nation and has been working on compiling the names of perpetrators inside the “Truth.” She is working with law enforcement in multiple states and is not apart of the “Truth.” All tips and messages will be confidential. 24 hour hotline. You can call or text the number below. 503-386-4634 Yeah Mr D I just posted that information for all . Thx u rock ! There are many survivors on here !
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Post by mrdobalina on Mar 29, 2023 16:53:02 GMT -5
In response to this post, I have copied the following from another site. I understand that the investigators name is Cynthia. There is a private investigator that specializes in CSA cases across the nation and has been working on compiling the names of perpetrators inside the “Truth.” She is working with law enforcement in multiple states and is not apart of the “Truth.” All tips and messages will be confidential. 24 hour hotline. You can call or text the number below. 503-386-4634 Yeah Mr D I just posted that information for all . Thx u rock ! There are many survivors on here ! I've requester that admin maybe start a new thread with the contact details on it so it doesn't get lost amongst other posts.
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Dean Bruer
Mar 29, 2023 16:56:52 GMT -5
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Post by 1chinesewhispers on Mar 29, 2023 16:56:52 GMT -5
Agreed ! Plus ………There is no worse feeling than someone coming at you whom was not a victim . 59 years of trauma for me . I don’t need to be schooled . I have had rape kits done . This is a serious matter and I have ceased contact with my remaining family for my mental health . No one should be bashing any person , child , male or female . When I say I speak with no one in my family , I mean NO ONE ! That hurts beyond belief .
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Dean Bruer
Mar 29, 2023 17:05:18 GMT -5
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Post by 1chinesewhispers on Mar 29, 2023 17:05:18 GMT -5
Everything I post on here is from a private party . I don’t give out names . My only job is to convey the information needed . I have spoken too many worker’s face to face . What is happening in Canada has ties to DB being in Canada It was his first convention in Canada in 1974 and any where else he traveled . Alberta dealt with a few situations with the worker’s in the 1996 when friends started to question the worker’s about the MONEY . It got really ugly and divided some families to THIS VERY DAY ! We have seen the trauma ! CSA has happened in Canada . Thus we are going through lists and checking and cross checking . Vinny are you a WORKER ? AGAIN VICTIMS YOU DID NOTHING WRONG !
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Post by peggysullivan on Mar 29, 2023 17:16:35 GMT -5
Hello,
I am a former member of this church, but I just heard about the Dean Bruer issue last night as my elderly aunt called me and told me about it. She is still professing and she is absolutely horrified about this. But she is totally in favor of it being brought out in the open for EVERYONE to know about and talk freely about. She also feels somewhat betrayed that it went on for so long, supposedly no one knew and if they did know, nothing was done about it. . I agreed with her that the healthiest path forward for ALL is complete transparency and no more cover ups!
I have worked with victims and survivors of abuse at a professional level and have been a mandated reporter for a VERY long time, so this issue is strong with me. The atmosphere of "secrecy" and cover ups is what allows this type of abuse to go virtually 'undetected' in the fellowship for a very long time and nothing is done about it.
It takes COURAGE to speak up; whether you are speaking up for yourself or speaking up for someone else. But, speak up is what people MUST do. So, SPEAK UP. Don't be afraid to SPEAK UP.
Thankfully, we are few generations away now from the generations that wanted to keep sexual abuse hush hush; even parents of children who confided in them, told them to never speak of it again. Rape victims and sexual abuse victims find it hard to come forward because they feel as though they are reliving the rape and abuse. Then, if they are not believed or not treated well by those they report it to, they feel as though they are being raped all over again. I have had several rape victims tell me this. 'It's like I was reliving the rape all over again.' So, many are very reluctant to bring forth charges. They are also afraid of RETALIATION from the perp. Understandable.
Anyone who does come forward, whether you are a sister worker, a child, anyone that has been abused, I applaud you. There are many more victims that we don't know about because so MANY simply do not report it to the proper authorities, and so whatever statistics you hear, it's probably HIGHER. And that's the reality and nature of this beast.
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Post by 1chinesewhispers on Mar 29, 2023 17:20:24 GMT -5
Well said ! Thx I especially don’t speak to my brother and his former buddies ! The other 2 predators are dead . I am good with that . They can no longer hurt anyone .
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Post by peggysullivan on Mar 29, 2023 17:36:21 GMT -5
You're welcome.
I have lost count of how many adult rape and abuse victims I have worked with who never reported it to the authorities, even though I asked them about it and encouraged them to. Many. It's truly sad the nature of the silence with this evil thing. With minors I was mandated to report it myself. And, I did so often with a very heavy heart, but also with a sense that it was simply something I MUST do. And, I cannot say how many child sexual abuse victims told their parents and were simply not believed. Or, just told to never speak of it again and put it behind them. So sad and so damaging.
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Dean Bruer
Mar 29, 2023 17:42:40 GMT -5
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Post by 1chinesewhispers on Mar 29, 2023 17:42:40 GMT -5
I ended up a mandated person , because of one offending person . It is hard and sickening but it had to be done .
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Dean Bruer
Mar 29, 2023 17:51:30 GMT -5
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Post by 1chinesewhispers on Mar 29, 2023 17:51:30 GMT -5
So yet another worker speaking . My sources are well vetted Dear LA, MS and AL Elders and Friends, This is to acknowledge the report of the misconduct of Dean Bruer, a worker/ overseer, now deceased, from OR, of whom you may be hearing about. The immoral conduct, that isn't to be named even once amongst the saints, how much less of servants, is condemned . For those who are hurt by these actions, beginning with the victims, we pray that they may find the support needed from being believed and comforted in knowing that this is not tolerated amongst us. In the aftermath of this, my thoughts go back to the time that Dean last visited in LA. If there's anyone who had any unwelcome encounters with him at that time, I was not made aware of it. I'm keenly aware of the need to encourage everyone amongst us to be free to report to authorities anything, such as Child Sexual Abuse, or misconduct of servant or saint. Edit We on the LA, MS and AL staff of workers participate in an educational resource called Ministry Safe, which instructs us to be aware of Child Sexual Abuse and how to conduct oneself and ministry to be safe. On behalf of those of us in the ministry I offer thanks for your support and trust, and pledge to not betray that. Your brother, [Robert Eberhardt] Good this guy encouraged victims to report but how the hell do You report something that you cannot even name? People need to learn to use their words and the proper words to describe things. Set an example there dude! Yet in another workers letter they clearly stated that not all workers participate in an educational resource called Ministry Safe, which instructs us to be aware of Child Sexual Abuse !
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Dean Bruer
Mar 29, 2023 17:53:32 GMT -5
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Post by 1chinesewhispers on Mar 29, 2023 17:53:32 GMT -5
So this is latest update sent to me by an insider . Yes a documentary is apparently being made. Efforts are being made re: resources for victims. The fb 2×2 support group is really great. Up to about 1200 members now. The case is not closed!!!! Ok NEW new update on the laptop case: The Clackamas County police were giving mixed information due to some confusion at the department . Ok NEW new update on the laptop case: We finally got ahold of the Sergeant who explained that the case IS open and active, however they cannot access the laptop without a victim in Clackamas County who believes there is evidence of the crime on the laptop and without a warrant to search the laptop. Thanks to my source . Omg what a great snooze . Thx to my doctor . I also remember Nathan stating he slept on the floor . Hhhhhhmmmmm ! Will update as I get updated . You can’t tell me that , some didn’t know . They sat on the information and deserve jail time . This is just the tip of the iceberg ! Hello there, This is my first post. I'd like to explain a few things that may not be apparent. I am posting to inform people what I know and I will not be guessing unless I state that based upon my experience and knowledge. Information is what people will be using to make decisions and the more accurate information people have the better decisions they can make. First of all I am not law enforcement but I have worked with and trained law enforcement for decades. I have talked to a couple close friends of mine who shall remain un-named because they gave me information that is not easily available. My reason for posting is that I have someone very close to me that has escaped this "religious sect" and the many types of abuse that have thrived from within the group due to its policies, procedures and the level of secrecy on how things are ran. Such as the severe lack of a real and documented organization, bank and financial records, membership records etc. They have thrived because of the lack of any accountability, and that they have severely discouraged people from reporting any and all issues. As well as not taken needed steps to prosecute those that have taken advantage of or harmed others in the various ways. They simply relocated them and that's not moral, ethical or should ever be done. It only "encourages" offenders to continue offending. I am going to list some things that pertain to this ongoing investigation as well as any investigation. These are basic principals that law enforcement adhere to in order to properly investigate this as well as anything. * There is an open case in Clackamas * I have seen an email that was from a patrol officer. Any patrol officer is not in charge of or involved in any investigation. They respond to 911 calls, emergencies and minor investigations. They are not involved in major investigations except on minor levels. * The bulk of major investigations as well as most investigations are left up to people that specialize in those areas such as sex crimes and financial crimes for example. They are called detectives. * Any detective or police officer cannot comment on an ongoing investigation. * Law enforcement cannot speak about those that are being investigated either. Not until such individuals are actually charged with a crime. Then it's public knowledge, albeit you have to look to know if someone is charged. * Law enforcement cannot speak about investigations in another jurisdiction or from another agency either as that is not their purview. * With regards to this investigation I can say that it is far bigger than most realize and it will not be finished quickly most likely. Reason being is they are being thorough and will make sure all avenues are covered. * I can also say that to "to my knowledge" this is going to be the biggest or one of the biggest sex crime cases involving a religious order in the United States. *** This has also been extended to the Federal side of things because and I am guessing on this but from what I do know there are crimes done by individuals in multiple States. *** Another reason it is a Federal case is because there is alot of money being exchanged for a large sect that doesn't have any financial records so to speak or bank accounts in said religious orders name. Private people are paying for an international religious organization with no orginization or records so to speak of and no oversight. * In order to have a case open there has to be a crime that is suspected to have been done. This case started before the laptop was compelled to be turned over. * A forensic accountant can get into any account that's connected to the laptop or owner of the laptop or the phone which was wiped and given away to my knowledge. They wiped the phone but alot of things are stored online. There is ALOT that's being done wrong by many people and this is not a good thing because there has been alot of abuse that's been done by many many people for a very long time. Including rape, child sexual abuse, assault, major financial crimes, coercion and others. There has been known sexual crimes where the victims have been coerced into not pressing charges and the offender has simply been moved to another state to continue offending. So very wrong on so many levels. This is all I am going to say for now. If anyone has any questions please don't hesitate to ask. I will do my best to help. I hope this clears alot of things up especially those that are not familiar with how the American Judicial Syatem and law enforcement procedures. Again I am not law enforcement but I have worked with them and know several people in multiple agencies that have told me things to help clear things up. I imagine it is hard to come forward but others need as many who have been harmed to come forward and report the abuse. It may get some semblance of closure for you as well as justice for others. God bless you all. Sincerely, Vinny T I personally have no question’s for you . Yo nurse more sedation please ! Until ( hopefully never) are a victim you have no idea why people don’t speak up ! They will come forward when ready and able to do so safely . They all have the numbers required . There is a case number in Canada ! Here it is quote Tip ID: 183-M90150
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Post by BobWilliston on Mar 29, 2023 17:56:52 GMT -5
That's all they need -- Nathan to investigate. Knowing him he's apt to be caught attempting to interfere with the investigation. It would be similar to what I did, seeking verification something has happened. I know. Your investigative skills aren't any better than his.
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peggysullivan
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Post by peggysullivan on Mar 29, 2023 18:02:48 GMT -5
I ended up a mandated person , because of one offending person . It is hard and sickening but it had to be done . Yes, it a serious position to be in, but once you are in it, it's just better to know what the CLEAR expectations are! And perhaps that is one of the dysfunctional things going on in the fellowship: lack of clear expectations. Things get alluded to. Things get tamped down and covered up for the "sake of the Kingdom", we all all know what goes on and things that are said. We all know how victims get silenced. Well, frankly, of COURSE the PERPS don't want the truth to come out!! And anyone who is part of any cover up doesn't want the truth to come out either. So, it's like a snowball effect.
God forbid. But just think: If the truth had come out about Dean Bruer even just 10 years ago, 20 years ago, and something was done........I wonder how he really died. That too, is a secret! Wouldn't you want to know the cause of death when someone dies suddenly who wasn't expected to die? Oh, it was "heart problems". MmmHmmm. That's what my aunt told me last night. Gee, where have I heard that before....? Well, maybe that will get looked into by the authorities as well...
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Dean Bruer
Mar 29, 2023 18:10:21 GMT -5
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Post by verna on Mar 29, 2023 18:10:21 GMT -5
Good this guy encouraged victims to report but how the hell do You report something that you cannot even name? People need to learn to use their words and the proper words to describe things. Set an example there dude! Yet in another workers letter they clearly stated that not all workers participate in an educational resource called Ministry Safe, which instructs us to be aware of Child Sexual Abuse ! Luckily some are willing to say it it seems but apparently not in Alabama.
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Post by BobWilliston on Mar 29, 2023 18:17:50 GMT -5
I think you are right. Someone of great integrity spilled a lot of beans to the police and the police came into the anthill and surprised a lot of people who thought they'd dealt with the whole thing. And it's probably the case that no one has a clue who it was who went to the police, because he/she told absolutely no one what he/she did. Ask me about that. Okay Bob, I'm asking ya! As things stand I am very angry at this new revelation. I am usually very guarded about speculation and supposition, instead looking to base my views and understanding on facts. However, it is early days yet and I find myself somewhat unrestrained due to my anger. I thought I had left all this stuff way in the past as previous engagements on the subject of CSA etc., had left me burned out. This is how it works. One person goes to the police with a complaint of a specific crime being committed, name names, times, places, and every specific you have and every possible place to investigate the complaint. Then tell no one, absolutely no one, including your spouse, and it will happen. The critical part is that you tell NO ONE -- who knows who will spill something and launch a counter explanation before law enforcement can secure court-worthy evidence upon which to further investigate? It worked for me. I never opened my mouth to anyone else until there was 36 years to life sentence brought. People whispered before I did it, and I expect they were shocked and scandalized when the police began approaching people unexpectedly with questions difficult to answer. It makes a fool of a lot of nay-sayers, but it takes the public exposure of the raw criminal activity to shut the gossipers and defenders up. Ironically, the "ministry" proclaimed that the right thing had been done (my name was NEVER mentioned). They're quite all right with the right thing being done when they're caught facing the possibility THEY were so close to being prosecuted for their delinquency in reporting such matters.
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Post by BobWilliston on Mar 29, 2023 18:26:57 GMT -5
You can bet your ass that this is huge . In addition the others now being reported is still the tip of the iceberg . THEY ABSOLUTELY KNEW AND PROBABLY WERE IN CAHOOTS BETWEEN THE BROTHER WORKERS . This is just the beginning of the down fall of the truth at present day ! Taking in consideration that elders and others may be on that list . Survivor’s YOU HAVE DONE NOTHING WRONG 😑 PLEASE REMEMBER THAT . REACH OUT TO SEX ASSULT PROFESSIONAL’S This is probably why workers, when they decide to leave the ministry, are asked to never discuss "what happens in the ministry" -- like God is going to accept a 5th amendment cover. They should have a form for NDA's. NDA = non-disclosure agreements
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Post by Vinny T. on Mar 29, 2023 18:28:08 GMT -5
Agreed ! Plus ………There is no worse feeling than someone coming at you whom was not a victim . 59 years of trauma for me . I don’t need to be schooled . I have had rape kits done . This is a serious matter and I have ceased contact with my remaining family for my mental health . No one should be bashing any person , child , male or female . When I say I speak with no one in my family , I mean NO ONE ! That hurts beyond belief . As you can read I am very serious. From everything I have read I have seen that there is alot of confusion as to how things work in regards to the way the procedures are. I am not wanting to trigger anyone. I have been involved with law enforcement for decades. I simplified things to make sure people have a clear understanding. Me being new here has no relevance to anything other than me being new "here". I have given knowledge that has not been posted anywhere else that I have found. I didn't have to, my only goal is to help people. I want everyone of the people that have raped, abused & taken advantage of others to be punished accordingly. I am sorry this had happened to you and others. I hope that you recover in a healthy manner. God bless you.
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Post by BobWilliston on Mar 29, 2023 18:31:15 GMT -5
So yet another worker speaking . My sources are well vetted Dear LA, MS and AL Elders and Friends, This is to acknowledge the report of the misconduct of Dean Bruer, a worker/ overseer, now deceased, from OR, of whom you may be hearing about. The immoral conduct, that isn't to be named even once amongst the saints, how much less of servants, is condemned . For those who are hurt by these actions, beginning with the victims, we pray that they may find the support needed from being believed and comforted in knowing that this is not tolerated amongst us. In the aftermath of this, my thoughts go back to the time that Dean last visited in LA. If there's anyone who had any unwelcome encounters with him at that time, I was not made aware of it. I'm keenly aware of the need to encourage everyone amongst us to be free to report to authorities anything, such as Child Sexual Abuse, or misconduct of servant or saint. Edit We on the LA, MS and AL staff of workers participate in an educational resource called Ministry Safe, which instructs us to be aware of Child Sexual Abuse and how to conduct oneself and ministry to be safe. On behalf of those of us in the ministry I offer thanks for your support and trust, and pledge to not betray that. Your brother, [Robert Eberhardt] Good this guy encouraged victims to report but how the hell do You report something that you cannot even name? People need to learn to use their words and the proper words to describe things. Set an example there dude! Exactly -- you can't report a rumor that has no specifics for where to start a professional investigation. The police cannot investigate every vague accusation brought to them -- the MAGA movement were really slow learning that.
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Post by BobWilliston on Mar 29, 2023 18:37:24 GMT -5
Lauren is a young lady who was raised in an egregiously sexually abusive household, within the community of friends and workers. He is committed to exposing the evil that can exist where secrecy is the rule.
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Dean Bruer
Mar 29, 2023 18:58:17 GMT -5
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Post by 1chinesewhispers on Mar 29, 2023 18:58:17 GMT -5
Agreed ! Plus ………There is no worse feeling than someone coming at you whom was not a victim . 59 years of trauma for me . I don’t need to be schooled . I have had rape kits done . This is a serious matter and I have ceased contact with my remaining family for my mental health . No one should be bashing any person , child , male or female . When I say I speak with no one in my family , I mean NO ONE ! That hurts beyond belief . As you can read I am very serious. From everything I have read I have seen that there is alot of confusion as to how things work in regards to the way the procedures are. I am not wanting to trigger anyone. I have been involved with law enforcement for decades. I simplified things to make sure people have a clear understanding. Me being new here has no relevance to anything other than me being new "here". I have given knowledge that has not been posted anywhere else that I have found. I didn't have to, my only goal is to help people. I want everyone of the people that have raped, abused & taken advantage of others to be punished accordingly. I am sorry this had happened to you and others. I hope that you recover in a healthy manner. God bless you. I have been involved with police since my oldest was 12 . You are triggering people . Recover ? Ya tell that to my doctors . Today has been almost 4 Valium and one Ativan . You are not helping us/many victims . I have more given knowledge than I will share . I am in correspondence with Calgary Police and crown prosecutors . In addition to lawyers . Your effort is almost commendable . Anything I post has been checked out by people who are vetted and trusted . Read the survivor stories on Wings site and , Telling the truth or FB site . Oh Facebook ex 2X2 site maybe not as you may not have the criteria to do so . To do so you must not be professing . I am not telling the trail of tears our family lived . I did immediately turn the first letter from Doyle Smith to Calgary Police Department immediately . I have done what was required and will continue to work with them . Have a good night . For my health please refrain from talking about my posts . Leave me outta your mentions thx We don’t recover ! We just learn to live with it . Crying But thankful to all that are supporting me via texts and emails . I totally appreciate the love and kindness . You have not told me anything I haven’t heard . You have never sat and listened to someone’s rape story . I had one dropped on me just last week as a lady I love who had taken us to Banff finally broke . She is now off work as it was another transit operator . I was in tears as she told me . I just hugged her and said I will not leave your side . Never expected that reveal from her !
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Post by fixit on Mar 29, 2023 19:11:01 GMT -5
Questioning a worker is like questioning God himself. That sounds like idolatry right there.
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mapi
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Dean Bruer
Mar 29, 2023 19:13:19 GMT -5
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Post by mapi on Mar 29, 2023 19:13:19 GMT -5
As you can read I am very serious. From everything I have read I have seen that there is alot of confusion as to how things work in regards to the way the procedures are. I am not wanting to trigger anyone. I have been involved with law enforcement for decades. I simplified things to make sure people have a clear understanding. Me being new here has no relevance to anything other than me being new "here". I have given knowledge that has not been posted anywhere else that I have found. I didn't have to, my only goal is to help people. I want everyone of the people that have raped, abused & taken advantage of others to be punished accordingly. I am sorry this had happened to you and others. I hope that you recover in a healthy manner. God bless you. I have been involved with police since my oldest was 12 . You are triggering people . Recover ? Ya tell that to my doctors . Today has been almost 4 Valium and one Ativan . You are not helping us/ many victims . I have more given knowledge than I will share . I am in correspondence with Calgary Police and crown prosecutors . In addition to lawyers . Your effort is almost commendable . Anything I post has been checked out by people who are vetted and trusted . Read the survivor stories on Wings site and , Telling the truth or FB site . Oh Facebook ex 2X2 site maybe not as you may not have the criteria to do so . To do so you must not be professing . I am not telling the trail of tears our family lived . I did immediately turn the first letter from Doyle Smith to Calgary Police Department immediately . I have done what was required and will continue to work with them . Have a good night . For my health please refrain from talking about my posts . Leave me outta your mentions thx We don’t recover ! We just learn to live with it . Crying But thankful to all that are supporting me via texts and emails . I totally appreciate the love and kindness . She or He???
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Dean Bruer
Mar 29, 2023 19:22:45 GMT -5
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Post by 1chinesewhispers on Mar 29, 2023 19:22:45 GMT -5
The person whom broke down last week is a beautiful Calgary Transit employee whom I love dearly . Whom confided in me , because she knows what happened to me and is happening presently in court with a family member . I had to do so to protect nieces and nephews . If he could do it to me , then they are not SAFE ! I am having conversations with people I trust . Telling just how dark and evil the WAY CAN BE ! There are good people in the Truth .
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Post by Vinny T. on Mar 29, 2023 19:30:03 GMT -5
I guess there are some who have went from abuse from others to self abuse with drugs. I have been abused myself severely yet I don't understand how that makes anything I said more or less relevant. I don't seek solice in chemical dependency. Yes I am aware for those that have been abused that there is no way to take things away. I really am unsure as to me being new is again such relevance or has so much credence or importance or gives certain people the right to attack me. Nor am I understanding who I am supposed to have the information I share "vetted". No one on here knows me, I am only trying to help. I have info that I briefly shared that most are not privy to. There seems to be a belief that because you're a victim that suddenly makes you away of police and law enforcement procedures, it doesn't. It only makes you involved. I come on here with info only to help. I AM NOT A WORKER. I am against the entire religious organization, it is very similar to the mafia of old. Thank you for the warm welcome. Have a good day everyone and for certain people my advice is to stop taking chill pills, it's a temporary solution. Again the info I've shared I have notfound anywhere else. If people take offense to someone being new and sharing info that's is a reflection of them and not me. Have a good night everyone. Again I am only trying to help.
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Post by snow on Mar 29, 2023 19:30:53 GMT -5
Agreed ! Plus ………There is no worse feeling than someone coming at you whom was not a victim . 59 years of trauma for me . I don’t need to be schooled . I have had rape kits done . This is a serious matter and I have ceased contact with my remaining family for my mental health . No one should be bashing any person , child , male or female . When I say I speak with no one in my family , I mean NO ONE ! That hurts beyond belief . As you can read I am very serious. From everything I have read I have seen that there is alot of confusion as to how things work in regards to the way the procedures are. I am not wanting to trigger anyone. I have been involved with law enforcement for decades. I simplified things to make sure people have a clear understanding. Me being new here has no relevance to anything other than me being new "here". I have given knowledge that has not been posted anywhere else that I have found. I didn't have to, my only goal is to help people. I want everyone of the people that have raped, abused & taken advantage of others to be punished accordingly. I am sorry this had happened to you and others. I hope that you recover in a healthy manner. God bless you. Thank you for the information. I for one did not know a lot of what you pointed out in a very clear point by point fashion. It was helpful for me.
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Post by Pragmatic on Mar 29, 2023 19:36:13 GMT -5
Thanks VinnyT for your well worded and calm input.
I too work in a similar capacity down under.
I was wondering if, because of Buer's travels, the FBI would get involved, and maybe Interpol depending on any information forthcoming.
As I have posted previously, this is a very serious matter, but we can't have people jeopardising a thorough investigation by expressing impatience. I know from my own forensic work, it can be painstakingly labourious (especially with encrypted data being recovered), but it's only by being thorough that a full picture can emerge.
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