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Post by nathan02 on Mar 30, 2022 16:08:38 GMT -5
** You and your doubting Thomas rebuttal on are too weak! Against what I posted most of the time. You guys and gals need to do better to change my mind to accept your point of views, opinions, and suggestions. Nathan, it is your arguments which are weak. Do you wonder why no one believes what you write but do what Prags and others write. It's because your information is too weak. You doubting Thomas, numbers speak. ** I always back up what I believe it is you doubting Thomas and unbelievers don't get it or believe it so be it. It is what it is, we have agree to disagree.
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Post by mrdobalina on Mar 30, 2022 16:15:45 GMT -5
** You and your doubting Thomas rebuttal on are too weak! Against what I posted most of the time. You guys and gals need to do better to change my mind to accept your point of views, opinions, and suggestions. I guess you have proved curlys point right there. Doubting Thomas is another typical Christian cop out answer when on the back foot, and contains zero substance, apart from to lay the blame with the other person for not drinking from your cup of stupidity without question. It is impossible to reason a man out of an opinion he didn't reason himself into in the first place. So, to round up the narcissistic gaslighting in that post, 1 "you and your doubting thomas rebuttal" 2 "Too weak against your superiority" 3 "We need to do better 4 ''To change YOUR mind 5 "To accept our opinions" That has to be some kind of world record for maximum gaslighting in a minimum of words, and not two full lines of text.
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Post by fixit on Mar 30, 2022 16:48:44 GMT -5
Nathan, it is your arguments which are weak. Do you wonder why no one believes what you write but do what Prags and others write. It's because your information is too weak. You doubting Thomas, numbers speak. ** I always back up what I believe it is you doubting Thomas and unbelievers don't get it or believe it so be it. It is what it is, we have agree to disagree. You back up what you believe with conspiracy websites and YouTube clips that prove nothing apart from your naivety, stubbornness and lack of cognitive ability.
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Post by BobWilliston on Mar 30, 2022 17:11:55 GMT -5
Why have you waited so long to tell us that? ** I have been telling you and those like you over 10 years or longer! NonE, have you been sleeping in the classes again? No. I just haven't been reading your posts.
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Post by nathan02 on Mar 30, 2022 17:19:49 GMT -5
** I have been telling you and those like you over 10 years or longer! NonE, have you been sleeping in the classes again? No. I just haven't been reading your posts. *** Thanks, goodness one less doubting Thomas to deal with, you give me a short break from you for sure.
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Post by nathan02 on Mar 30, 2022 17:37:07 GMT -5
** I always back up what I believe it is you doubting Thomas and unbelievers don't get it or believe it so be it. It is what it is, we have agree to disagree. You back up what you believe with conspiracy websites and YouTube clips that prove nothing apart from your naivety, stubbornness and lack of cognitive ability. ** The people I presented or back up my belief have been involved with the events, they shared what they had seen and heard. And you unbelievers don't believe their stories! Calling their stories conspiracy theories. You are so pathetic and very stunborn about it... And you say I am stunborn and naive because I don't agree with your unbelief. Now, I see and understand how Jesus and the apostles felt so upset at the unbelieving Jews, Pharisees, and Scribes who doubted at their words, teachings and preaching to them. Jesus said he was like a mother hens who tried to call her little chicks to come under his wings of protection from Predators and they would NOT. It's still the same today.
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Post by Grant on Mar 30, 2022 19:01:32 GMT -5
You back up what you believe with conspiracy websites and YouTube clips that prove nothing apart from your naivety, stubbornness and lack of cognitive ability. ** The people I presented or back up my belief have been involved with the events, they shared what they had seen and heard. And you unbelievers don't believe their stories! Calling their stories conspiracy theories. You are so pathetic and very stunborn about it... And you say I am stunborn and naive because I don't agree with your unbelief. Now, I see and understand how Jesus and the apostles felt so upset at the unbelieving Jews, Pharisees, and Scribes who doubted at their words, teachings and preaching to them. Jesus said he was like a mother hens who tried to call her little chicks to come under his wings of protection from Predators and they would NOT. It's still the same today. You don't believe what others on here post so that makes you the unbeliever and doubting Thomas.
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Post by mrdobalina on Mar 30, 2022 19:03:47 GMT -5
** You and your doubting Thomas rebuttal on are too weak! Against what I posted most of the time. You guys and gals need to do better to change my mind to accept your point of views, opinions, and suggestions. I guess you have proved curlys point right there. Doubting Thomas is another typical Christian cop out answer when on the back foot, and contains zero substance, apart from to lay the blame with the other person for not drinking from your cup of stupidity without question. It is impossible to reason a man out of an opinion he didn't reason himself into in the first place. So, to round up the narcissistic gaslighting in that post, 1 "you and your doubting thomas rebuttal" 2 "Too weak against your superiority" 3 "We need to do better 4 ''To change YOUR mind 5 "To accept our opinions" That has to be some kind of world record for maximum gaslighting in a minimum of words, and not two full lines of text.
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Post by intelchips on Mar 30, 2022 19:14:25 GMT -5
I guess you have proved curlys point right there. Doubting Thomas is another typical Christian cop out answer when on the back foot, and contains zero substance, apart from to lay the blame with the other person for not drinking from your cup of stupidity without question. It is impossible to reason a man out of an opinion he didn't reason himself into in the first place. So, to round up the narcissistic gaslighting in that post, 1 "you and your doubting thomas rebuttal" 2 "Too weak against your superiority" 3 "We need to do better 4 ''To change YOUR mind 5 "To accept our opinions" That has to be some kind of world record for maximum gaslighting in a minimum of words, and not two full lines of text. Nathan's point of view
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Post by nathan02 on Mar 30, 2022 19:16:54 GMT -5
** The people I presented or back up my belief have been involved with the events, they shared what they had seen and heard. And you unbelievers don't believe their stories! Calling their stories conspiracy theories. You are so pathetic and very stunborn about it... And you say I am stunborn and naive because I don't agree with your unbelief. Now, I see and understand how Jesus and the apostles felt so upset at the unbelieving Jews, Pharisees, and Scribes who doubted at their words, teachings and preaching to them. Jesus said he was like a mother hens who tried to call her little chicks to come under his wings of protection from Predators and they would NOT. It's still the same today. You don't believe what others on here post so that makes you the unbeliever and doubting Thomas. ** If you are correct then I am a believer! and I will "Like" your posts and praise you for it.
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Post by Pragmatic on Mar 30, 2022 19:53:30 GMT -5
I think I need to put this in a larger font...maybe someone could read it to him!
Nathan - it was and is a hoax, and the author has admitted it....read on
Apollo 20 is, at its core, a good story: a successful mission into the unknown, and an unprecedented US-Soviet collaboration. The Apollo program concluded with a secret epilogue, revealing profound truths about humanity’s place in the universe.
But did it really happen? Less than a year after the videos surfaced, a French artist named Thierry Speth5 claimed to have been behind them. He had, in his career, made sculptures strikingly similar to the Mona Lisa alien, and apparently he was found to use the “retiredafb” name on several websites. The Apollo 20 story also suffers from several logical flaws. For example:
It would be impossible to conceal a Saturn V launch from Vandenberg (see footnotes). Furthermore, all Saturn Vs—four billion dollars apiece—are thoroughly accounted for, with the leftover rockets from Apollo either used for Skylab or put on display.
Why didn’t they make any effort to quarantine the alien? The videos show astronauts operating on the Mona Lisa, inside the lunar module and without wearing spacesuits.
Why do we only see the initial overflight, a distant shot of the city, and the alien? Rutledge mentioned details about the inside of the ship, but he apparently didn’t take pictures of it.
Countless thousands of people worked on each Apollo flight. Someone, from the mission controllers to the ground crew to the medical technicians, would have spilled the beans at some point. Why did it stay completely secret until 2007?
It was clear all along. You see, Apollo 20 was, in fact, a hoax. Nonsense cooked up for the internet age. Not only is it wildly implausible on its own terms, the creator has come out and admitted he fabricated everything. There is no alien spacecraft on the far side of the Moon. Nothing has been covered up. This whole article, from the beginning, was a joke. You need to post your source of information so the readers KNOW where you get it and you didn't write the article yourself. You didn't write that article above, right? Prag. I thought you wrote the article but I found you got it from this website below. The author is a skeptic and an unbeliever, prag just like you and your buddies on here.
letsgetoffthisrockalready.com/2021/04/18/apollo-20-the-dark-side-of-the-moon/
You need to read the Interview of the REAL William Rutledge the Captain of the Apollo20 mission NOT some author who had NOT been there himself to see it, he just expressed his opinion, Prag. You should KNOW better than that, Prag. You are doing a very poor job here to discredit me for believing William Rutledge true story.
www.angelismarriti.it/ANGELISMARRITI-ENG/REPORTS_ARTICLES/Apollo20-InterviewWithWilliamRutledge.htm
Actually, I emailed a someone I know, who works in Germany in Comms for the ISS, and asked "how do you deal with a forum kook who believes all this Apollo 20 rubbish"? She emailed that text to me.
In addition, let me add:
There is no way a Saturn V could be launched without it being widely known, for a number of technical reasons, not withstanding communications requirements, at that time.
I have already told you that the Saturn Vs have all been accounted for, and the one slated for Apollo 20 was used in a Skylab launch.
Any Commander or had to have been in a previous mission, usually three back, as part of Nasa's policy.
There was no Rutledge in any previous Apollo mission.
Because of the thousands of people involved in a Saturn V launch, which was required for escaping Earth Orbit, and Lunar injection, there is no way someone would not have squawked if it was true.
But as I was explained, the person who dreamed it all up, has admitted it was a joke/hoax, and you swallowed, and are now too proud to admit that your faith is misplaced.
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Post by fixit on Mar 30, 2022 20:00:57 GMT -5
You back up what you believe with conspiracy websites and YouTube clips that prove nothing apart from your naivety, stubbornness and lack of cognitive ability. ** The people I presented or back up my belief have been involved with the events, they shared what they had seen and heard. And you unbelievers don't believe their stories! Calling their stories conspiracy theories. You are so pathetic and very stunborn about it... And you say I am stunborn and naive because I don't agree with your unbelief. Now, I see and understand how Jesus and the apostles felt so upset at the unbelieving Jews, Pharisees, and Scribes who doubted at their words, teachings and preaching to them. Jesus said he was like a mother hens who tried to call her little chicks to come under his wings of protection from Predators and they would NOT. It's still the same today. You compare yourself with Jesus but you're nothing like him. The garbage you preach in his name is a disgrace.
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Post by nathan on Mar 30, 2022 20:05:47 GMT -5
Actually, I emailed a someone I know, who works in Germany in Comms for the ISS, and asked "how do you deal with a forum kook who believes all this Apollo 20 rubbish"? She emailed that text to me.
In addition, let me add:
There is no way a Saturn V could be launched without it being widely known, for a number of technical reasons, not withstanding communications requirements, at that time.
I have already told you that the Saturn Vs have all been accounted for, and the one slated for Apollo 20 was used in a Skylab launch.
Any Commander or had to have been in a previous mission, usually three back, as part of Nasa's policy.
There was no Rutledge in any previous Apollo mission.
Because of the thousands of people involved in a Saturn V launch, which was required for escaping Earth Orbit, and Lunar injection, there is no way someone would not have squawked if it was true.
But as I was explained, the person who dreamed it all up, has admitted it was a joke/hoax, and you swallowed, and are now too proud to admit that your faith is misplaced.
It was a TOP Secret mission between USSR and US Secret Space program your friend was too young to KNOW about it and she didn't have a top secret clearance back then either. Did you sent the interview between the reporter and Rutledge website address to your friend? Let her see the video of the HUGE Space Ship, the Mona Lisa human being lived 1.5 Billion years ago, and the Cathedral city on the far side of the moon, OK.
By the way, Rutledge was the commander of the Apollo19 and 20 mission.
www.angelismarriti.it/ANGELISMARRITI-ENG/REPORTS_ARTICLES/Apollo20-InterviewWithWilliamRutledge.htm
How old was your friend back in 1976 when the Apollo20 when the mission launched?
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Post by verna on Mar 30, 2022 20:40:24 GMT -5
Oh my good lord. There is no point. Just ignore the man.
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Post by Pragmatic on Mar 30, 2022 21:14:22 GMT -5
Actually, I emailed a someone I know, who works in Germany in Comms for the ISS, and asked "how do you deal with a forum kook who believes all this Apollo 20 rubbish"? She emailed that text to me.
In addition, let me add:
There is no way a Saturn V could be launched without it being widely known, for a number of technical reasons, not withstanding communications requirements, at that time.
I have already told you that the Saturn Vs have all been accounted for, and the one slated for Apollo 20 was used in a Skylab launch.
Any Commander or had to have been in a previous mission, usually three back, as part of Nasa's policy.
There was no Rutledge in any previous Apollo mission.
Because of the thousands of people involved in a Saturn V launch, which was required for escaping Earth Orbit, and Lunar injection, there is no way someone would not have squawked if it was true.
But as I was explained, the person who dreamed it all up, has admitted it was a joke/hoax, and you swallowed, and are now too proud to admit that your faith is misplaced.
It was a TOP Secret mission between USSR and US Secret Space program your friend was too young to KNOW about it and she didn't have a top secret clearance back then either. Did you sent the interview between the reporter and Rutledge website address to your friend? Let her see the video of the HUGE Space Ship, the Mona Lisa human being lived 1.5 Billion years ago, and the Cathedral city on the far side of the moon, OK.
By the way, Rutledge was the commander of the Apollo19 and 20 mission.
www.angelismarriti.it/ANGELISMARRITI-ENG/REPORTS_ARTICLES/Apollo20-InterviewWithWilliamRutledge.htm
How old was your friend back in 1976 when the Apollo20 when the mission launched?
She was too young, but that does not prevent her from knowing far more about what went on than you do. I was doing some study of Astrophysics at University, under the tutelage of Pinky Whelan at the time, who had been one of the NASA comms staff in Australia during the Apollo missions.
The so-called interview is so full of holes, you'd have to be blind to not see them. For example, Roger Chaffee, was not an Apollo Docking specialist. In fact he lost his life in the Apollo 1 fire, had not flown any Gemini missions, and was a Comms specialist. You claim Rutledge commanded Apollo 19. He claims it was lost due to a telemetry failure.
While it was plausible for "secret missions" to exist, and some semi-secret ones still happen, such as the X37-B, Apollo 18, 19 and 20 never happened. If Apollo 20 was to have happened, it would have been Roosa, Lind and Lousma. or Conrad, Weitz and Lousma. There was no Rutledge or Snyder in the corps, and regardless of which division of the military they came from, they were all under NASA at that time.
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Post by fixit on Mar 30, 2022 21:46:02 GMT -5
Come on Prags....you don't have a higher security clearance than know-it-all Nathan. Please give us proof of your security clearance. ** God is my security top secret clearance. that is good enough for me.
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Post by nathan on Mar 30, 2022 22:42:42 GMT -5
It was a TOP Secret mission between USSR and US Secret Space program your friend was too young to KNOW about it and she didn't have a top secret clearance back then either. Did you sent the interview between the reporter and Rutledge website address to your friend? Let her see the video of the HUGE Space Ship, the Mona Lisa human being lived 1.5 Billion years ago, and the Cathedral city on the far side of the moon, OK.
By the way, Rutledge was the commander of the Apollo19 and 20 mission.
www.angelismarriti.it/ANGELISMARRITI-ENG/REPORTS_ARTICLES/Apollo20-InterviewWithWilliamRutledge.htm
How old was your friend back in 1976 when the Apollo20 mission launched?
She was too young, but that does not prevent her from knowing far more about what went on than you do. I was doing some study of Astrophysics at University, under the tutelage of Pinky Whelan at the time, who had been one of the NASA comms staff in Australia during the Apollo missions.
The so-called interview is so full of holes, you'd have to be blind to not see them. For example, Roger Chaffee, was not an Apollo Docking specialist. In fact he lost his life in the Apollo 1 fire, had not flown any Gemini missions, and was a Comms specialist. You claim Rutledge commanded Apollo 19. He claims it was lost due to a telemetry failure.
While it was plausible for "secret missions" to exist, and some semi-secret ones still happen, such as the X37-B, Apollo 18, 19 and 20 never happened. If Apollo 20 was to have happened, it would have been Roosa, Lind and Lousma. or Conrad, Weitz and Lousma. There was no Rutledge or Snyder in the corps, and regardless of which division of the military they came from, they were all under NASA at that time.
by Luca Scantamburlo CLUES ON THE WILLIAM RUTLEDGE'S IDENTITY Could "retiredafb" - YouTube user who claims to be William Rutledge, now 77 years old- have been a former civilian test pilot on various aircrafts? He told us this and other things: that he was born in Belgium in 1930 (in Grembergen, he specified in his user-card on-line on YouTube) and that he was employed in the last century with Avro, Chance Vought and the USAF, before taking part in Apollo 20, a classified mission to the Moon alleged by him to have taken place in August 1976 from Vandenberg AFB aboard a Saturn V moon rocket. It is entirely possible that Apollo 20 could have been a secret joint US and Soviet space mission that occurred one year after the famous Apollo-Soyuz Test Project, which launched in July 1975.
According to his testimony granted to me in an interview, Rutledge's last job before retiring was working on the KH-11 project (USAF). He explained me also that the ASTP (Apollo-Soyuz Test Project) was the preparatory mission to Apollo 19; and later Apollo 20, after the presumed failure of Apollo 19 and the loss of its crew. He told me that the ASTP was, for the Americans, the Apollo 18. Is it possible and correct under the historical point of view? Let us begin by examining the historical record. APOLLO 18? YES, IT DID EXIST AND IT DID TAKE PLACE As the matter of fact, an official NASA Web page with an indication that ASTP was a mission involving Soyuz 19 and Apollo 18 capsules, can be found at the following link: www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/apollo/welcome.html The caption "Apollo 18" identifies who the United States crew members of the ASTP were: Thomas P. Stafford, Vance D. Brand, Donald K. "Deke" Slayton. Although we have no evidence in the historical record that Apollo 18 was followed by Apollo 19 (due to Apollo 19 being most a secret USAF mission), William Rutledge gave a precise definition for the ASTP. It was correct, in spite of the fact this information is not well-known by the general public. www.angelismarriti.it/ANGELISMARRITI-ENG/REPORTS_ARTICLES/Apollo19-20-NewClues.htmThere is a Secret Space program Within the U.S. government beside the well known NASA, after the death of John F. Kennedy in 1963 beside NASA. The U.S government Secret Space program had many secret Missions for years NOT JUST Apollo28 mission to the far side of the moon in 1976.In 1965-1978 The U.S. Secret Space had an exchanged program with the EBEN race, where THEY sent 12 astronauts to live on their planet/Serpo for 13 years and some of the EBEN came, lived and worked with the U.S. gov't Agency.These information comes from 3 former and 3 current U.S. Defense Intelligence Agency employees sharing top secret missions to the world in 2005. They were allowed to disclosure these information from the White Hats within the U.S. government Agency. www.serpo.org/release8.php
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Post by Pragmatic on Mar 30, 2022 23:07:42 GMT -5
It wasn't actually Apollo 18, as it used a Saturn 1B, and was the known as the Apollo-Soyuz. Yes, Deke finally got his ride into space, and he had learned to speak Russian passably well.
But this is where you get conned. Some fact is inserted into the story-line, and you just gobble the lot up.
Take a step back and look at all the conspiracy theories you swallow, the people on here you post your admiration for, and now add this one into the mix. Can't you see the pattern?
Yes there are undesirable people in politics from time to time, and yes there are some who like to try and influence world events, and others who are overly opportunistic. Yes there are greedy corporations and poeple, and you certainly have your fair share over there. Words like Du Pont, Theranos, Valeant come to mind, as to some of the banking organisations, and others. But there is not a conspiracy under every bed.
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Post by fixit on Mar 30, 2022 23:17:01 GMT -5
But there is not a conspiracy under every bed. It must be horrible to live like that. Yes, we're programmed to first take care of self, family, and the people we like. However I do believe in the common decency of the majority.
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Post by nathan on Mar 31, 2022 1:28:42 GMT -5
It wasn't actually Apollo 18, as it used a Saturn 1B, and was the known as the Apollo-Soyuz. Yes, Deke finally got his ride into space, and he had learned to speak Russian passably well. But this is where you get conned. Some fact is inserted into the story-line, and you just gobble the lot up. Take a step back and look at all the conspiracy theories you swallow, the people on here you post your admiration for, and now add this one into the mix. Can't you see the pattern? Yes there are undesirable people in politics from time to time, and yes there are some who like to try and influence world events, and others who are overly opportunistic. Yes there are greedy corporations and poeple, and you certainly have your fair share over there. Words like Du Pont, Theranos, Valeant come to mind, as to some of the banking organisations, and others. But there is not a conspiracy under every bed. Apollo20 match a few secret missions that I have read they fit like a glove... You skeptics don't believe in anything until you see it. There are things you can't NEVER get close to see it. So, everything you can't see or understand you classify them as conspiracy theories.
Here is a good place to educate yourself, when you don't get to see or get close to it with your low level security clearance.
There is a Secret Space program Within the U.S. government beside the well known NASA, after the death of John F. Kennedy in 1963 beside NASA. The U.S government Secret Space program had many secret Missions for years NOT JUST Apollo28 mission to the far side of the moon in 1976.
In 1965-1978 The U.S. Secret Space had an exchanged program with the EBEN race, where THEY sent 12 astronauts to live on their planet/Serpo for 13 years and some of the EBEN came, lived and worked with the U.S. gov't Agency.
These information comes from 3 former and 3 current U.S. Defense Intelligence Agency employees sharing top secret missions to the world in 2005. They were allowed to disclosure these information from the White Hats within the U.S. government Agency.
www.serpo.org/release8.php
There are many very important information which had been kept secret from the public... Start at #1 to 30 you might learn something for yourself and it will increase your IQ to 100. You don't need to ask your friends in high places, most of them don't KNOW any of these things themselves.
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Post by mrdobalina on Mar 31, 2022 1:52:09 GMT -5
It wasn't actually Apollo 18, as it used a Saturn 1B, and was the known as the Apollo-Soyuz. Yes, Deke finally got his ride into space, and he had learned to speak Russian passably well. But this is where you get conned. Some fact is inserted into the story-line, and you just gobble the lot up. Take a step back and look at all the conspiracy theories you swallow, the people on here you post your admiration for, and now add this one into the mix. Can't you see the pattern? Yes there are undesirable people in politics from time to time, and yes there are some who like to try and influence world events, and others who are overly opportunistic. Yes there are greedy corporations and poeple, and you certainly have your fair share over there. Words like Du Pont, Theranos, Valeant come to mind, as to some of the banking organisations, and others. But there is not a conspiracy under every bed. Apollo20 match a few secret missions that I have read they fit like a glove... You skeptics don't believe in anything until you see it. There are things you can't NEVER get close to see it. So, everything you can't see or understand you classify them as conspiracy theories.
Here is a good place to educate yourself, when you don't get to see or get close to it with your low level security clearance.
There is a Secret Space program Within the U.S. government beside the well known NASA, after the death of John F. Kennedy in 1963 beside NASA. The U.S government Secret Space program had many secret Missions for years NOT JUST Apollo28 mission to the far side of the moon in 1976.
In 1965-1978 The U.S. Secret Space had an exchanged program with the EBEN race, where THEY sent 12 astronauts to live on their planet/Serpo for 13 years and some of the EBEN came, lived and worked with the U.S. gov't Agency.
These information comes from 3 former and 3 current U.S. Defense Intelligence Agency employees sharing top secret missions to the world in 2005. They were allowed to disclosure these information from the White Hats within the U.S. government Agency.
www.serpo.org/release8.php
There are many very important information which had been kept secret from the public... Start at #1 to 30 you might learn something for yourself and it will increase your IQ to 100. You don't need to ask your friends in high places, most of them don't KNOW any of these things themselves.
And this has exactly what to do with being an unwanted online worker for 2x2?
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Post by Pragmatic on Mar 31, 2022 2:10:22 GMT -5
It wasn't actually Apollo 18, as it used a Saturn 1B, and was the known as the Apollo-Soyuz. Yes, Deke finally got his ride into space, and he had learned to speak Russian passably well. But this is where you get conned. Some fact is inserted into the story-line, and you just gobble the lot up. Take a step back and look at all the conspiracy theories you swallow, the people on here you post your admiration for, and now add this one into the mix. Can't you see the pattern? Yes there are undesirable people in politics from time to time, and yes there are some who like to try and influence world events, and others who are overly opportunistic. Yes there are greedy corporations and poeple, and you certainly have your fair share over there. Words like Du Pont, Theranos, Valeant come to mind, as to some of the banking organisations, and others. But there is not a conspiracy under every bed. Apollo20 match a few secret missions that I have read they fit like a glove... You skeptics don't believe in anything until you see it. There are things you can't NEVER get close to see it. So, everything you can't see or understand you classify them as conspiracy theories.
Here is a good place to educate yourself, when you don't get to see or get close to it with your low level security clearance.
There is a Secret Space program Within the U.S. government beside the well known NASA, after the death of John F. Kennedy in 1963 beside NASA. The U.S government Secret Space program had many secret Missions for years NOT JUST Apollo28 mission to the far side of the moon in 1976.
In 1965-1978 The U.S. Secret Space had an exchanged program with the EBEN race, where THEY sent 12 astronauts to live on their planet/Serpo for 13 years and some of the EBEN came, lived and worked with the U.S. gov't Agency.
These information comes from 3 former and 3 current U.S. Defense Intelligence Agency employees sharing top secret missions to the world in 2005. They were allowed to disclosure these information from the White Hats within the U.S. government Agency.
www.serpo.org/release8.php
There are many very important information which had been kept secret from the public... Start at #1 to 30 you might learn something for yourself and it will increase your IQ to 100. You don't need to ask your friends in high places, most of them don't KNOW any of these things themselves.
You are incapable of comprehension and critical thinking, and your life is based on a collection of tooth fairy beliefs, this being another. If that is how your brain has to function in order for you to make sense of the world, then you are beyond the help of people on here. It also shreds any credibility you think you might have with respect to being an Internet Worker. You even say that Wally hasn’t reached your level of understanding yet. What a derogatory thing to say about one you consider your fellow worker. And how bigoted and arrogant is that sort of attitude? You are an embarrassment to the church you claim to represent.
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Post by openingact34 on Mar 31, 2022 7:18:08 GMT -5
Apollo20 match a few secret missions that I have read they fit like a glove... You skeptics don't believe in anything until you see it. There are things you can't NEVER get close to see it. So, everything you can't see or understand you classify them as conspiracy theories.
Here is a good place to educate yourself, when you don't get to see or get close to it with your low level security clearance.
There is a Secret Space program Within the U.S. government beside the well known NASA, after the death of John F. Kennedy in 1963 beside NASA. The U.S government Secret Space program had many secret Missions for years NOT JUST Apollo28 mission to the far side of the moon in 1976.
In 1965-1978 The U.S. Secret Space had an exchanged program with the EBEN race, where THEY sent 12 astronauts to live on their planet/Serpo for 13 years and some of the EBEN came, lived and worked with the U.S. gov't Agency.
These information comes from 3 former and 3 current U.S. Defense Intelligence Agency employees sharing top secret missions to the world in 2005. They were allowed to disclosure these information from the White Hats within the U.S. government Agency.
www.serpo.org/release8.php
There are many very important information which had been kept secret from the public... Start at #1 to 30 you might learn something for yourself and it will increase your IQ to 100. You don't need to ask your friends in high places, most of them don't KNOW any of these things themselves.
You are incapable of comprehension and critical thinking, and your life is based on a collection of tooth fairy beliefs, this being another. If that is how your brain has to function in order for you to make sense of the world, then you are beyond the help of people on here. It also shreds any credibility you think you might have with respect to being an Internet Worker. You even say that Wally hasn’t reached your level of understanding yet. What a derogatory thing to say about one you consider your fellow worker. And how bigoted and arrogant is that sort of attitude? You are an embarrassment to the church you claim to represent. The church doesn't seem to be very embarrassed. No acknowledgment of their responsibility in removing his critical thinking. No apology for brainwashing and breaking him down. No actual help to heal the deep mental wounds caused by a decade of abuse in the work. Juset onwards toward the next victim
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Post by nathan on Mar 31, 2022 8:42:08 GMT -5
Apollo20 match a few secret missions that I have read they fit like a glove... You skeptics don't believe in anything until you see it. There are things you can't NEVER get close to see it. So, everything you can't see or understand you classify them as conspiracy theories.
Here is a good place to educate yourself, when you don't get to see or get close to it with your low level security clearance.
There is a Secret Space program Within the U.S. government beside the well known NASA, after the death of John F. Kennedy in 1963 beside NASA. The U.S government Secret Space program had many secret Missions for years NOT JUST Apollo28 mission to the far side of the moon in 1976.
In 1965-1978 The U.S. Secret Space had an exchanged program with the EBEN race, where THEY sent 12 astronauts to live on their planet/Serpo for 13 years and some of the EBEN came, lived and worked with the U.S. gov't Agency.
These information comes from 3 former and 3 current U.S. Defense Intelligence Agency employees sharing top secret missions to the world in 2005. They were allowed to disclosure these information from the White Hats within the U.S. government Agency.
www.serpo.org/release8.php
There are many very important information which had been kept secret from the public... Start at #1 to 30 you might learn something for yourself and it will increase your IQ to 100. You don't need to ask your friends in high places, most of them don't KNOW any of these things themselves.
And this has exactly what to do with being an unwanted online worker for 2x2? To show you and those on TMB that We are NOT alone in the Universe! God has created and populated billions intelligence beings races NOT just the Mortal humans beings. When Jesus returns and give the believers the resurrection bodies we will go forth and PREACH the gospel to them to bring them into the FAMILY of God during the 1000 years reign.
That is what I have been trying to get across for over 10 years! Many Popes before Francis and the Vatican KNOW this and they have been preparing to welcome ETs to join the RCC, already.
hollowearthufo.blogspot.com/2009/12/hollow-earth.html
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Post by nathan on Mar 31, 2022 8:56:09 GMT -5
Apollo20 match a few secret missions that I have read they fit like a glove... You skeptics don't believe in anything until you see it. There are things you can't NEVER get close to see it. So, everything you can't see or understand you classify them as conspiracy theories.
Here is a good place to educate yourself, when you don't get to see or get close to it with your low level security clearance.
There is a Secret Space program Within the U.S. government beside the well known NASA, after the death of John F. Kennedy in 1963 beside NASA. The U.S government Secret Space program had many secret Missions for years NOT JUST Apollo28 mission to the far side of the moon in 1976.
In 1965-1978 The U.S. Secret Space had an exchanged program with the EBEN race, where THEY sent 12 astronauts to live on their planet/Serpo for 13 years and some of the EBEN came, lived and worked with the U.S. gov't Agency.
These information comes from 3 former and 3 current U.S. Defense Intelligence Agency employees sharing top secret missions to the world in 2005. They were allowed to disclosure these information from the White Hats within the U.S. government Agency.
www.serpo.org/release8.php
There are many very important information which had been kept secret from the public... Start at #1 to 30 you might learn something for yourself and it will increase your IQ to 100. You don't need to ask your friends in high places, most of them don't KNOW any of these things themselves.
You are incapable of comprehension and critical thinking, and your life is based on a collection of tooth fairy beliefs, this being another. If that is how your brain has to function in order for you to make sense of the world, then you are beyond the help of people on here. It also shreds any credibility you think you might have with respect to being an Internet Worker. You even say that Wally hasn’t reached your level of understanding yet. What a derogatory thing to say about one you consider your fellow worker. And how bigoted and arrogant is that sort of attitude? You are an embarrassment to the church you claim to represent. It is you down under and those like you who don't understand and have taken the 2x2 backwards with Anti-Trinity; Jesus is NOT God and non-exclusive 2x2 believers against Jesus and the apostles, and the early 2x2 workers belief and teachings.
Jesus has taught that God has given believers some 1 talent, others 5 talents and 10 some talents according to their abilities. There will be rewards given in heaven NOT by how many talents we have but have we been Faithful and increase the talents God has given us or put it to good use by investing and sharing it with others about Jesus Christ the Savior of the Universe.
Don't be like the 1 talent who buried it underground or think it was too little and NOT worth anything so, he cast it away and when the Lord returns he was so upset they the 1 talent didn't invest in the talent God had given him, He took it away and send him with the unbelievers in outer darkness.
It's God who give us the talents understanding of God Truth and Way, loving, kindness, forgiveness and to manifest the fruit of the Spirit and be light and salt in this Dark World.
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Post by fixit on Mar 31, 2022 11:49:52 GMT -5
It's God who give us the talents understanding of God Truth and Way, loving, kindness, forgiveness and to manifest the fruit of the Spirit and be light and salt in this Dark World. Guess who condemns workers and friends downunder for too much loving, kindness, forgiveness?
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Post by nathan02 on Mar 31, 2022 12:08:13 GMT -5
It's God who give us the talents understanding of God Truth and Way, loving, kindness, forgiveness and to manifest the fruit of the Spirit and be light and salt in this Dark World. Guess who condemns workers and friends downunder for too much loving, kindness, forgiveness? ** You down under offers a wrong kind the non-exclusive gospel! Evrythinh goes and it OK as long you believe in God. Wheat and tares can come in ONE bundle gospel! All denominations and religions lead to God. God only wants WHEAT to be gather in God's House NOT the rates with it. The tates must be take out here on earth and become Wheat before God will allow to enter heaven. The process has to take place on earth, here and now.
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Post by fixit on Mar 31, 2022 12:33:30 GMT -5
Guess who condemns workers and friends downunder for too much loving, kindness, forgiveness? ** You down under offers a wrong kind the non-exclusive gospel! Evrythinh goes and it OK as long you believe in God. Wheat and tares can come in ONE bundle gospel! All denominations and religions lead to God. Lies.
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