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Post by Pragmatic on Mar 9, 2022 16:55:17 GMT -5
** Moon landing in 1968 was fake to fool the Americans, the Russians and the world that NASA landed first men on the moon. They were ahead of Space race against the USSR! NASA did land on the moon a few years later. More lies.....CGI wasn't even invented back then. Clearly wallowing in delusions.
Pinky Whelan, who I knew, was one of the communicators in Australia for Apollo 11, before he moved to New Zealand. He was one of my Astrophysics tutors at Massey.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Mar 9, 2022 17:06:07 GMT -5
As usual you start abusing people once they question you on aspects of whatever you are saying and you cannot see that your story does not stack up. You call people all sorts of names but they are not silly as you think and can see through your stories quite easily. The question is, why you do not see through these stories you believe in? ** If the shoes fit wear it. My question why are you doubting? It is because this is NOT what you have taught in school? The shoe does not fit. Most schools and I say most as I have to exclude religious school, teach facts that can be verified. Seeing something on youtube does not verify it. Reading something that cannot be cross referenced does not verify it. There is a good reason why schools and universities do not teach what you believe. I base my life on facts. It has freed me from all the silliness of religion. |
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Post by nathan02 on Mar 9, 2022 17:24:35 GMT -5
** If the shoes fit wear it. My question why are you doubting? It is because this is NOT what you have taught in school? The shoe does not fit. Most schools and I say most as I have to exclude religious school, teach facts that can be verified. Seeing something on youtube does not verify it. Reading something that cannot be cross referenced does not verify it. There is a good reason why schools and universities do not teach what you believe. I base my life on facts. It has freed me from all the silliness of religion. ** I showed you the DEAD and ALIVE Witnesses testimonies and documents to back up as evidences. What more do you want? If you are unbelievers you will accept NOTHING as proof so, I must keep on sending more proof to you constantly. Perhaps, the new readers can search these things for themselves, to find the truth for themselves.  |
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Mar 9, 2022 17:52:23 GMT -5
The shoe does not fit. Most schools and I say most as I have to exclude religious school, teach facts that can be verified. Seeing something on youtube does not verify it. Reading something that cannot be cross referenced does not verify it. There is a good reason why schools and universities do not teach what you believe. I base my life on facts. It has freed me from all the silliness of religion. ** I showed you the DEAD and ALIVE Witnesses testimonies and documents to back up as evidences. What more do you want? If you are unbelievers you will accept NOTHING as proof so, I must keep on sending more proof to you constantly. Perhaps, the new readers can search these things for themselves, to find the truth for themselves.  Your evidence does not stack up as being true. That is why people do not believe it. That is why not one of the friends in Portland or the PNW believe them. Whether I am an atheist or a religious person has no bearing on what I think about your claims. If I cannot prove them then they are consigned to the rubbish bin. Constantly posting stuff does not make it true. Lies stay lies no matter how often you post them. |
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Post by nathan02 on Mar 9, 2022 18:00:57 GMT -5
** I showed you the DEAD and ALIVE Witnesses testimonies and documents to back up as evidences. What more do you want? If you are unbelievers you will accept NOTHING as proof so, I must keep on sending more proof to you constantly. Perhaps, the new readers can search these things for themselves, to find the truth for themselves. Your evidence does not stack up as being true. That is why people do not believe it. That is why not one of the friends in Portland or the PNW believe them. Whether I am an atheist or a religious person has no bearing on what I think about your claims. If I cannot prove them then they are consigned to the rubbish bin. Constantly posting stuff does not make it true. Lies stay lies no matter how often you post them. ** Hey! I have two on TMB believe me! my friend Shushy and Q, who has security clearance from down under. You doubting Thomas have been duped and deceived for years! They have been hidden the Truth from the world and to keep them ignorance and stay in the dark as long as they can. |
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Post by chuck on Mar 9, 2022 18:05:10 GMT -5
I don't think you can comprehend the volume of soil and the logistics in tunnelling that amount and moving it. We are talking hundreds of millions of cubic meters of spoil. Even the time frame to bore the length of tunnels you are describing is ridiculous unless they had hundreds of boring machines which again would not go unnoticed........ And then the amount of material to line the tunnels, air vents ect ect ect would be massive and another massive logistical undertaking and would not go unnoticed. How do they hide the thousands of ventilation exits? Who funded it? You haven't thought this through Nathan....
www.britannica.com/technology/tunnel/Tunneling-techniquessilo.tips/download/secret-underground-bases-deep-underground-military-bases-in-america2) Who funded it? The Top Secret black ops governments and U.S military governments.
www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Phil+Schenider+secret+under+ground+bases3) Vol 1: E.T.'s, U.F.O.'s, and New World Technology, An Overview 1940 to Present. Phil Schenider lecture of him and many others have helped to build 100s under ground U.S. secret military bases.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=TduPsMYF0ig&ab_channel=ParanormalXNathan it would have taken the Tunnel Boring Machine the Oahe Mole about 7466 years to dig the 350 mile tunnel in your previous link. 1 TBM 7466 yrs 2 TBM 3733 yrs 10 TBM 746 yrs 93 TBM 80 yrs 746 Tunnel Boring Machines required to complete that one 350mile project in 10 years. How many years did it take to complete the 350 mile tunnel Nathan?. It took 16 years to complete this 57km tunnel....https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gotthard_Base_Tunnel Nathan you are going to have to come up with a better explanation then a link that discredits your story. Edit... Correction, the above is days not years, I forgot to divide by 365 🙄. |
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Post by chuck on Mar 9, 2022 18:06:30 GMT -5
** I showed you the DEAD and ALIVE Witnesses testimonies and documents to back up as evidences. What more do you want? If you are unbelievers you will accept NOTHING as proof so, I must keep on sending more proof to you constantly. Perhaps, the new readers can search these things for themselves, to find the truth for themselves. Your evidence does not stack up as being true. That is why people do not believe it. That is why not one of the friends in Portland or the PNW believe them. Whether I am an atheist or a religious person has no bearing on what I think about your claims. If I cannot prove them then they are consigned to the rubbish bin. Constantly posting stuff does not make it true. Lies stay lies no matter how often you post them. You gota remember that only religious people that agree with Nathan are proper credible people...... |
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Post by fixit on Mar 9, 2022 18:20:37 GMT -5
That's a sloppy answer. How about an exact date and links to prove that you're not just plucking this stuff out of thin air? |
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Post by Annan on Mar 9, 2022 18:21:35 GMT -5
Your evidence does not stack up as being true. That is why people do not believe it. That is why not one of the friends in Portland or the PNW believe them. Whether I am an atheist or a religious person has no bearing on what I think about your claims. If I cannot prove them then they are consigned to the rubbish bin. Constantly posting stuff does not make it true. Lies stay lies no matter how often you post them. ** Hey! I have two on TMB believe me! my friend Shushy and Q, who has security clearance from down under. You doubting Thomas have been duped and deceived for years! They have been hidden the Truth from the world and to keep them ignorance and stay in the dark as long as they can. Sushi’s a nutter and you can’t prove q’s credentials. He saw a sucker and is playing you like a fiddle. |
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Mar 9, 2022 18:27:43 GMT -5
Your evidence does not stack up as being true. That is why people do not believe it. That is why not one of the friends in Portland or the PNW believe them. Whether I am an atheist or a religious person has no bearing on what I think about your claims. If I cannot prove them then they are consigned to the rubbish bin. Constantly posting stuff does not make it true. Lies stay lies no matter how often you post them. ** Hey! I have two on TMB believe me! my friend Shushy and Q, who has security clearance from down under. You doubting Thomas have been duped and deceived for years! They have been hidden the Truth from the world and to keep them ignorance and stay in the dark as long as they can. I know who Shushy is and have no respect for her due to her lies. Q could be anyone. Certainly not the person that they claim to be. They have made too many mistakes on here to be taken seriously. The truth is there for you to see except you seem to prefer the lies of deceitful people. |
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Post by chuck on Mar 9, 2022 18:36:30 GMT -5
No hard evidence then? A few fairy tales and a link to an article that teaches 8 year Olds how tunnels are made, and now calling the doubters names for not swallow your story without question. Gaslighting much? ** Come on Seed of Cain I always back up! With hard documents evidences. I have stored them up at my home computer. Yes, that's why you have to post links not related to your stories as evidence for your stories, like your tunnel boring links for instance. Post hard evidence of the 350mile tunnel Nathan......not other peoples stories and general tunnel boring links.... |
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Post by nathan02 on Mar 9, 2022 18:43:19 GMT -5
** Hey! I have two on TMB believe me! my friend Shushy and Q, who has security clearance from down under. You doubting Thomas have been duped and deceived for years! They have been hidden the Truth from the world and to keep them ignorance and stay in the dark as long as they can. Sushi’s a nutter and you can’t prove q’s credentials. He saw a sucker and is playing you like a fiddle. ** I don't think so, Witch... Q and I still keep in touch in PM and exchange some of the latest news! |
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Post by nathan02 on Mar 9, 2022 18:48:56 GMT -5
** Come on Seed of Cain I always back up! With hard documents evidences. I have stored them up at my home computer. Yes, that's why you have to post links not related to your stories as evidence for your stories, like your tunnel boring links for instance. Post hard evidence of the 350mile tunnel Nathan......not other peoples stories and general tunnel boring links.... ** They have secret military under ground tunnels linked from West coast to eastcoast. |
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Post by fixit on Mar 9, 2022 19:06:51 GMT -5
Yes, that's why you have to post links not related to your stories as evidence for your stories, like your tunnel boring links for instance. Post hard evidence of the 350mile tunnel Nathan......not other peoples stories and general tunnel boring links.... ** They have secret military under ground tunnels linked from West coast to eastcoast. You're incredibly naive to think that a project of that magnitude could be kept "secret". |
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Post by Pragmatic on Mar 9, 2022 19:22:24 GMT -5
** They have secret military under ground tunnels linked from West coast to eastcoast. You're incredibly naive to think that a project of that magnitude could be kept "secret". "incredibly naive" is saying it in the nicest possible way - must have been said by a Christian! |
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Post by nathan02 on Mar 9, 2022 19:24:21 GMT -5
** They have secret military under ground tunnels linked from West coast to eastcoast. You're incredibly naive to think that a project of that magnitude could be kept "secret". ** Yes, it has been kept a secret for MANY years from the public, until Phil S. Blew the lid off in 1990-97 about under ground military secret tunnels for 1000s of miles. Col. Billy Woodward revealed secret tunnels to hollow earth for 100s miles under Area51 Nevada, Arizona in 1990s. I had a list of many U.S. secret under ground military bases and different places around the world and under ocean floors along the West Coast of U.S.A. and in other countries. |
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Post by chuck on Mar 9, 2022 19:34:39 GMT -5
Yes, that's why you have to post links not related to your stories as evidence for your stories, like your tunnel boring links for instance. Post hard evidence of the 350mile tunnel Nathan......not other peoples stories and general tunnel boring links.... ** They have secret military under ground tunnels linked from West coast to eastcoast. 🤦♂️ |
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Post by chuck on Mar 9, 2022 19:37:29 GMT -5
** They have secret military under ground tunnels linked from West coast to eastcoast. You're incredibly naive to think that a project of that magnitude could be kept "secret". If he keeps going there will be enough spoil to make a new mountain range..... |
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Post by xna on Mar 9, 2022 19:38:28 GMT -5
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Post by nathan02 on Mar 9, 2022 19:40:24 GMT -5
** They have secret military under ground tunnels linked from West coast to eastcoast. 🤦♂️ ** Let me repeat it for you again, your Hebrews mindset and Dark Ages mentality can't grasp or believe in these things! It's beyond your comprehension hang around and I will educate you, mate. Little by little like I did with Ram! on the Nazi had secret UFO or flying saucers bases in Germany and on the Dark side of the moon during World War II. |
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Post by fixit on Mar 9, 2022 20:57:08 GMT -5
** They have secret military under ground tunnels linked from West coast to eastcoast. 🤦♂️ Did you mean LOL? |
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Post by chuck on Mar 9, 2022 20:59:28 GMT -5
** Let me repeat it for you again, your Hebrews mindset and Dark Ages mentality can't grasp or believe in these things! It's beyond your comprehension hang around and I will educate you, mate. Little by little like I did with Ram! on the Nazi had secret UFO or flying saucers bases in Germany and on the Dark side of the moon during World War II. I fixed my calculation error on the other post, I over egged the pudding. This new claim of multiple tunnels 2500miles minimum long is absurd. 2500 miles ÷ 240 feet(Oahe avg when working) a day is 55208 days or 151 years with one machine of continuous boring or 100% efficiency which is just not possible. As we can see this project of 151km in boring length took 16 years to complete, thats 9km a year. www.herrenknecht.com/en/references/referencesdetail/gotthard-base-tunnel/ So lets be generous and say 75% efficiency is achievable, that's 180 feet per day, boring one 2500mile tunnel takes 73333 days or 200 years with one machine. Back up your claim with Hard evidence Nathan..... |
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Post by chuck on Mar 9, 2022 21:00:24 GMT -5
Well yes but I can't laugh because I know he is deadly serious. |
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Post by BobWilliston on Mar 9, 2022 21:04:54 GMT -5
You wallow in lies Nate. Your naivety seems to know no bounds. He seems to be an expert in all things unknowable.  |
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Post by nathan on Mar 9, 2022 21:31:49 GMT -5
** Let me repeat it for you again, your Hebrews mindset and Dark Ages mentality can't grasp or believe in these things! It's beyond your comprehension hang around and I will educate you, mate. Little by little like I did with Ram! on the Nazi had secret UFO or flying saucers bases in Germany and on the Dark side of the moon during World War II. I fixed my calculation error on the other post, I over egged the pudding. This new claim of multiple tunnels 2500miles minimum long is absurd. 2500 miles ÷ 240 feet(Oahe avg when working) a day is 552083 days or 1512 years with one machine of continuous boring or 100% efficiency which is just not possible. As we can see this project of 151km in boring length took 16 years to complete, thats 9km a year. www.herrenknecht.com/en/references/referencesdetail/gotthard-base-tunnel/ So lets be generous and say 75% efficiency is achievable, that's 180 feet per day, boring one 2500mile tunnel takes 73333 days or 200 years with one machine. Back up your claim with Hard evidence Nathan..... The average depth of these bases is over a mile, and they again are basically whole cities underground. They have nuclear powered laser drilling machines that can drill a tunnel seven miles long in one day. (Note: The September, 1983 issue of Omni (Pg. 80) has a color drawing of 'The Subterrene,' the Los Alamos nuclear-powered tunnel machine that burrows through the rock, deep underground, by heating whatever stone it encounters into molten rock.) The Black Projects sidestep the authority of Congress, which as we know is illegal. There is much hard evidence out there. The US Government through the NSA,DOD, CIA, DIA, ATF, ONI, US Army, US Marine Corp, FEMA and the DHS has spent in excess of 12 trillion dollars building the massive, covert infrastructure for the coming One World Government and New World Religion over the past 40 years. There is the Deep Underground Military Base underneath Denver International Airport, which is over 22 miles in diameter and goes down over 8 levels. It's no coincidence that the CIA relocated the headquarters of its domestic division, which is responsible for operations in the United States, from the CIA's Langley headquarters to Denver. Constructed in 1995, the government and politicians were hell bent on building this airport in spite of it ending up vastly over budget. silo.tips/download/secret-underground-bases-deep-underground-military-bases-in-americaHere is a picture of the Boring machine tunnels A tunnel boring machine (TBM), also known as a "mole", is a machine used to excavate tunnels with a circular cross section through a variety of soil and rock strata. They may also be used for micro-tunneling. They can be designed to bore through anything from hard rock to sand. Tunnel diameters can range from one metre (3.3 ft) (done with micro-TBMs) to 17.6 metres (58 ft) to date. Tunnels of less than a metre or so in diameter are typically done using trenchless construction methods or horizontal directional drilling rather than TBMs. TBMs can also be designed to excavate non-circular tunnels, including u-shaped or horseshoe and square or rectangular tunnels.[1][2][3][4][5][6] Tunnel boring machines are used as an alternative to drilling and blasting (D&B) methods in rock and conventional "hand mining" in soil. TBMs have the advantages of limiting the disturbance to the surrounding ground and producing a smooth tunnel wall. This significantly reduces the cost of lining the tunnel, and makes them suitable to use in heavily urbanized areas. The major disadvantage is the upfront cost. TBMs are expensive to construct, and can be difficult to transport. The longer the tunnel, the less the relative cost of tunnel boring machines versus drill and blast methods. This is because tunneling with TBMs is much more efficient and results in shortened completion times, assuming they operate successfully. Drilling and blasting however remains the preferred method when working through heavily fractured and sheared rock layers. Here are the pictures of the Boring tunnels machine.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunnel_boring_machine#:~:text=A%20tunnel%20boring%20machine%20(TBM,also%20be%20used%20for%20microtunneling. |
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Post by mrdobalina on Mar 9, 2022 22:37:09 GMT -5
** Let me repeat it for you again, your Hebrews mindset and Dark Ages mentality can't grasp or believe in these things! It's beyond your comprehension hang around and I will educate you, mate. Little by little like I did with Ram! on the Nazi had secret UFO or flying saucers bases in Germany and on the Dark side of the moon during World War II. I fixed my calculation error on the other post, I over egged the pudding. This new claim of multiple tunnels 2500miles minimum long is absurd. 2500 miles ÷ 240 feet(Oahe avg when working) a day is 55208 days or 151 years with one machine of continuous boring or 100% efficiency which is just not possible. As we can see this project of 151km in boring length took 16 years to complete, thats 9km a year. www.herrenknecht.com/en/references/referencesdetail/gotthard-base-tunnel/ So lets be generous and say 75% efficiency is achievable, that's 180 feet per day, boring one 2500mile tunnel takes 73333 days or 200 years with one machine. Back up your claim with Hard evidence Nathan..... Ahh, see you didn't factor in nuclear powered laser tunnel drilling machines. Technology so advanced and efficient that it's never been heard of, or used in the civil construction industry to date. Back to the drawing board with your maths mate. |
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Post by dmmichgood on Mar 9, 2022 23:46:36 GMT -5
Wally, I'm curious about the murder. Was the victim professing? Did they find the murderer? Where did this happen? Do you know any of the circumstances? Thanks No she knew nothing of the truth as far as I know. Yes they caught the guy and after several very long years executed him, he fought that for awhile. It was in a semi remote area surrounded by woods at the time by a local college. It was a brown single wide trailer bank building. Two tellers were killed. Don't know why a bank manager was not also present. If I remember right he got his money he wanted but killed them anyway. They removed the bank and put a gas station there later on.
Mitchell Edward Rupe (1955 – February 7, 2006) was a convicted murderer who achieved notoriety when his death sentence was overturned after a judge determined that Rupe was too obese to hang.
On the morning of September 17, 1981 Rupe fatally shot bank tellers Candace Hemmig and Twila Capron during a robbery of Tumwater State Bank in Olympia, Washington. Capron's husband arrived at the bank shortly after the robbery and called 9-1-1. |
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Post by chuck on Mar 9, 2022 23:53:07 GMT -5
I fixed my calculation error on the other post, I over egged the pudding. This new claim of multiple tunnels 2500miles minimum long is absurd. 2500 miles ÷ 240 feet(Oahe avg when working) a day is 55208 days or 151 years with one machine of continuous boring or 100% efficiency which is just not possible. As we can see this project of 151km in boring length took 16 years to complete, thats 9km a year. www.herrenknecht.com/en/references/referencesdetail/gotthard-base-tunnel/ So lets be generous and say 75% efficiency is achievable, that's 180 feet per day, boring one 2500mile tunnel takes 73333 days or 200 years with one machine. Back up your claim with Hard evidence Nathan..... Ahh, see you didn't factor in nuclear powered laser tunnel drilling machines. Technology so advanced and efficient that it's never been heard of, or used in the civil construction industry to date. Back to the drawing board with your maths mate. I'll just hang my head in shame..... |
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