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Post by christiansburg on Oct 19, 2021 12:51:29 GMT -5
Oh, that's right they were yelling and screaming but do you not understand why? The daughter had been raped and it was covered up. Teaching unbelievable subjects in the classroom. Sexual explicit material showing up in elementary school books. The nature of the threat was: "We will get you off the school board, you are wasting our money as taxpapers, you are claiming to have exlusive right to what our children are being taught." That is the nature of the threat. There were no physical threats. Only the threat of replacements. I would like for you to watch OAN for a week between the hours of 8PM -12PM EDT. You will get an eye opener. Yes, I have watched many sources of news media. There are only about 3 people on FOX that are reliable, my opinion and all the other media is garbage except for OAN. Regardless of OAN being a supporter of Trump does not take away from the value of their news. American liberties are being eroded very fast due to the media and Biden is being used by them and I don't think he realizes it. I can say without question that this last year all 10 of the original "Bill of Rights" have been severely threatened. When these are gone that is the last step over into communism. It's not that far away. Oh, forgot to say this:The next day after the school board incident one of the leading members on the school boad resigned
Like I have done with other media outlets to check their reliability, I had checked out OAN a long time ago as to whether I could trust it, -so I already know enough about OAN
OAN: One America News Network
Wikipedia <excerpts>
One America News Network (OANN), also known as One America News (OAN), is a far-right, pro-Trump cable channel founded by Robert Herring Sr. and owned by Herring Networks, Inc., that launched on July 4, 2013
Its prime-time political talk shows have a conservative perspective, and the channel has described itself as one of the "greatest supporters" of Trump.
Trump himself has promoted both the network and some of its hosts.
The channel is known for promoting falsehoods and conspiracy theories.
In November 2020, YouTube suspended OANN for one week and ended its ability to monetize its existing content as a first strike under its three-strike community guideline violation policy for advertising a false cure for COVID-19.
In August 2021, OANN was sued by Dominion Voting Systems for promoting false claims that Dominion had engaged in election fraud during the 2020 presidential election
The OANN channel originally debuted in partnership with The Washington Times, which had drawn criticism for racist content, including commentary and conspiracy theories about former U.S. President Barack Obama, supporting neo-Confederate historical revisionism, and promoting Islamophobia.
Herring, the owner of the channel, sent his producers a report that falsely claimed that Hillary Clinton had a brain tumor and asking them to check up on it.
In October 2017, the channel claimed without evidence that a "report" had been published that showed "U.K. Crime Rises 13% Annually Amid Spread of Radical Islamic Terror".
Trump later repeated this falsehood, suggesting that he learned of it from OANN.
So there you have it. ...and these are only a drop in the bucket of all the "misinformation" committed by OAN.
I haven't the time to listen to something that I know I can't rely on to be accurate.
If OAN is the only place that you are hearing all your news, -maybe you should try to find a few other sources before you swallow 'hook line & sinker' everything that OAN claims.
PS: BTW, if I were a school board member I think that I would finally get tired enough of the stuff they have to endure that I would retire as well!
School board members serve their community by giving of their time free without any reimbursement for their or money!
A lot of chatter here and you still keep your head in the sand. It is a good thing to report on right conservative opinions. You should also call up CNN, NYT and show their deceptive practices--they are the harbingers of a lost America with all their misinformation, editing of statements to construe a wrong impression. You would do better to never consider joining a school board as I don't think you could understand why parents complain of education gone awry. The school board covered up the crime. The school board member resigned because she finally realized the gravity of her crimes. And as to sexual explicit material being to elementary school children--is that proper? Maybe you espouse an America that goes communist the government takes away your voice in a childs education. Have you taken a looked at the Bill of Rights lately and found any that have not been violated in the last 10 months? We are in a sad state of affairs right now and if people don't wake up we will loose it all. I can't believe you want that.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2021 13:52:59 GMT -5
Where did I say it was a "joke or just your own thought.?"
I am not as well versed on this particular controversy as I would like to be concerning AJ Garland having parents being classified as terrorists, but it was my understanding that the parents were yelling & making physical threats against school board members because of Covid restrictions & in some cases over the teaching of the CRT.
Christiansburg, are you sure that YOU were watching all sources of media?"
I will comment on this particular controversy later if I have time to check it out further. Right now, I am having several health issues that is taking quite a bit of my time. Oh, that's right they were yelling and screaming but do you not understand why? The daughter had been raped and it was covered up. Teaching unbelievable subjects in the classroom. Sexual explicit material showing up in elementary school books. The nature of the threat was: "We will get you off the school board, you are wasting our money as taxpapers, you are claiming to have exlusive right to what our children are being taught." That is the nature of the threat. There were no physical threats. Only the threat of replacements. I would like for you to watch OAN for a week between the hours of 8PM -12PM EDT. You will get an eye opener. Yes, I have watched many sources of news media. There are only about 3 people on FOX that are reliable, my opinion and all the other media is garbage except for OAN. Regardless of OAN being a supporter of Trump does not take away from the value of their news. American liberties are being eroded very fast due to the media and Biden is being used by them and I don't think he realizes it. I can say without question that this last year all 10 of the original "Bill of Rights" have been severely threatened. When these are gone that is the last step over into communism. It's not that far away. Oh, forgot to say this:The next day after the school board incident one of the leading members on the school boad resigned. In general parents have been unruly in response to CRT, but they have yet to resort to looting and burning down buildings. Suggesting they qualify as domestic terrorists is just plain dumb. The specific incident involving the girl raped by a cross-dressing boy in the girl's room is an outlier, but frankly, seeing a precedent that any boy can slip on a skirt and go into the girl's bathroom just illustrates how progressivism can become regressive and degenerate. Parents have the unequivocal right to dictate the learning outcomes for their children, and the response to CRT shows to me that most people (regardless of skin color) are fed up with the race-baiting and regressive deterministic philosophy of social reconstruction. I listened to MLK Jr.s "Dream" speech the other day. I had to remind myself what the civil rights movement used to be about.
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Post by dmmichgood on Oct 19, 2021 16:29:33 GMT -5
Like I have done with other media outlets to check their reliability, I had checked out OAN a long time ago as to whether I could trust it, -so I already know enough about OAN
OAN: One America News Network
Wikipedia <excerpts>
One America News Network (OANN), also known as One America News (OAN), is a far-right, pro-Trump cable channel founded by Robert Herring Sr. and owned by Herring Networks, Inc., that launched on July 4, 2013
Its prime-time political talk shows have a conservative perspective, and the channel has described itself as one of the "greatest supporters" of Trump.
Trump himself has promoted both the network and some of its hosts.
The channel is known for promoting falsehoods and conspiracy theories.
In November 2020, YouTube suspended OANN for one week and ended its ability to monetize its existing content as a first strike under its three-strike community guideline violation policy for advertising a false cure for COVID-19.
In August 2021, OANN was sued by Dominion Voting Systems for promoting false claims that Dominion had engaged in election fraud during the 2020 presidential election
The OANN channel originally debuted in partnership with The Washington Times, which had drawn criticism for racist content, including commentary and conspiracy theories about former U.S. President Barack Obama, supporting neo-Confederate historical revisionism, and promoting Islamophobia.
Herring, the owner of the channel, sent his producers a report that falsely claimed that Hillary Clinton had a brain tumor and asking them to check up on it.
In October 2017, the channel claimed without evidence that a "report" had been published that showed "U.K. Crime Rises 13% Annually Amid Spread of Radical Islamic Terror".
Trump later repeated this falsehood, suggesting that he learned of it from OANN.
So there you have it. ...and these are only a drop in the bucket of all the "misinformation" committed by OAN.
I haven't the time to listen to something that I know I can't rely on to be accurate.
If OAN is the only place that you are hearing all your news, -maybe you should try to find a few other sources before you swallow 'hook line & sinker' everything that OAN claims.
PS: BTW, if I were a school board member I think that I would finally get tired enough of the stuff they have to endure that I would retire as well!
School board members serve their community by giving of their time free without any reimbursement for their or money!
A lot of chatter here and you still keep your head in the sand. t is a good thing to report on right conservative opinions. You should also call up CNN, NYT and show their deceptive practices--they are the harbingers of a lost America with all their misinformation, editing of statements to construe a wrong impression. You would do better to never consider joining a school board as I don't think you could understand why parents complain of education gone awry. The school board covered up the crime. The school board member resigned because she finally realized the gravity of her crimes. And as to sexual explicit material being to elementary school children--is that proper? Maybe you espouse an America that goes communist the government takes away your voice in a childs education. Have you taken a looked at the Bill of Rights lately and found any that have not been violated in the last 10 months? We are in a sad state of affairs right now and if people don't wake up we will loose it all. I can't believe you want that. If you believe that other media sources are inaccurate and deceptive, then YOU should investigate them!You are saying they are no better than OAN, -but you aren't presenting any documentation to that effect.As for the school board episodes. From what I am gathering the real issue is that is about teaching e CRT in schools.But instead, the instance you are presenting it is NOT about that all, but about an sexual attack on their daughter.Certainly parents has the right & obligation to make sure their children are safe from such sexual attacks.
But that was NOT what the DOJ was talking about! You & others are using this out of context as an distraction from the real issue which is the teaching of CRT.You an others are simply using it to confuse people and muddy the water! PS: Yes, -I have 'taken a look at the Bill of Rights lately,' and many times before that!I have been a member of the ACLU, American Civil Liberties Union for forty + years and active in our local chapter.The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) is a nonprofit organization founded in 1920 "to defend and preserve the individual rights and liberties guaranteed to every person in this country by the Constitution and laws of the United States". The ACLU works through litigation and lobbying and it has over 1,200,000 members and an annual budget of over $300 million.
What have you done to preserve our 'Bill of Rights?'
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Post by dmmichgood on Oct 19, 2021 16:38:33 GMT -5
Oh, that's right they were yelling and screaming but do you not understand why? The daughter had been raped and it was covered up. Teaching unbelievable subjects in the classroom. Sexual explicit material showing up in elementary school books. The nature of the threat was: "We will get you off the school board, you are wasting our money as taxpapers, you are claiming to have exlusive right to what our children are being taught." That is the nature of the threat. There were no physical threats. Only the threat of replacements. I would like for you to watch OAN for a week between the hours of 8PM -12PM EDT. You will get an eye opener. Yes, I have watched many sources of news media. There are only about 3 people on FOX that are reliable, my opinion and all the other media is garbage except for OAN. Regardless of OAN being a supporter of Trump does not take away from the value of their news. American liberties are being eroded very fast due to the media and Biden is being used by them and I don't think he realizes it. I can say without question that this last year all 10 of the original "Bill of Rights" have been severely threatened. When these are gone that is the last step over into communism. It's not that far away. Oh, forgot to say this:The next day after the school board incident one of the leading members on the school boad resigned. In general parents have been unruly in response to CRT, but they have yet to resort to looting and burning down buildings. Suggesting they qualify as domestic terrorists is just plain dumb. The specific incident involving the girl raped by a cross-dressing boy in the girl's room is an outlier, but frankly, seeing a precedent that any boy can slip on a skirt and go into the girl's bathroom just illustrates how progressivism can become regressive and degenerate. Parents have the unequivocal right to dictate the learning outcomes for their children, and the response to CRT shows to me that most people (regardless of skin color) are fed up with the race-baiting and regressive deterministic philosophy of social reconstruction. I listened to MLK Jr.s "Dream" speech the other day. I had to remind myself what the civil rights movement used to be about. I disagree. critical race theory (CRT), intellectual and social movement and loosely organized framework of legal analysis based on the premise that race is not a natural, biologically grounded feature of physically distinct subgroups of human beings but a socially constructed (culturally invented) category that is used to oppress and exploit people of colour. Critical race theorists hold that racism is inherent in the law and legal institutions of the United States insofar as they function to create and maintain social, economic, and political inequalities between whites and nonwhites, especially African Americans. Critical race theorists are generally dedicated to applying their understanding of the institutional or structural nature of racism to the concrete (if distant) goal of eliminating all race-based and other unjust hierarchies. Background and early history Critical race theory (CRT) was officially organized in 1989, at the first annual Workshop on Critical Race Theory, though its intellectual origins go back much farther, to the 1960s and ’70s. Its immediate precursor was the critical legal studies (CLS) movement, which dedicated itself to examining how the law and legal institutions serve the interests of the wealthy and powerful at the expense of the poor and marginalized. (CLS, an offshoot of Marxist-oriented critical theory, may also be viewed as a radicalization of early 20th-century legal realism, a school of legal philosophy according to which judicial decision making, especially at the appellate level, is influenced as much by nonlegal—political or ideological—factors as by precedent and principles of legal reasoning.) Like CLS scholars, critical race theorists believed that political liberalism was incapable of adequately addressing fundamental problems of injustice in American society (notwithstanding legislation and court rulings advancing civil rights in the 1950s and ’60s), because its emphasis on the equitable treatment under the law of all races (“colour blindness”) rendered it capable of recognizing only the most overt and obvious racist practices, not those that were relatively indirect, subtle, or systemic Liberalism was also faulted for mistakenly presupposing the apolitical nature of judicial decision making and for taking a self-consciously incremental or reformist approach that prolonged unjust social arrangements and afforded opportunities for retrenchment and backsliding through administrative delays and conservative legal challenges. Unlike most CLS scholars, however, critical race theorists did not wish to abandon the notions of law or legal rights altogether, because, in their experience, some laws and legal reforms had done much to help oppressed or exploited people.
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Post by christiansburg on Oct 19, 2021 19:22:53 GMT -5
A lot of chatter here and you still keep your head in the sand. t is a good thing to report on right conservative opinions. You should also call up CNN, NYT and show their deceptive practices--they are the harbingers of a lost America with all their misinformation, editing of statements to construe a wrong impression. You would do better to never consider joining a school board as I don't think you could understand why parents complain of education gone awry. The school board covered up the crime. The school board member resigned because she finally realized the gravity of her crimes. And as to sexual explicit material being to elementary school children--is that proper? Maybe you espouse an America that goes communist the government takes away your voice in a childs education. Have you taken a looked at the Bill of Rights lately and found any that have not been violated in the last 10 months? We are in a sad state of affairs right now and if people don't wake up we will loose it all. I can't believe you want that. If you believe that other media sources are inaccurate and deceptive, then YOU should investigate them!You are saying they are no better than OAN, -but you aren't presenting any documentation to that effect.As for the school board episodes. From what I am gathering the real issue is that is about teaching e CRT in schools.But instead, the instance you are presenting it is NOT about that all, but about an sexual attack on their daughter.Certainly parents has the right & obligation to make sure their children are safe from such sexual attacks.
But that was NOT what the DOJ was talking about! You & others are using this out of context as an distraction from the real issue which is the teaching of CRT.You an others are simply using it to confuse people and muddy the water! PS: Yes, -I have 'taken a look at the Bill of Rights lately,' and many times before that!I have been a member of the ACLU, American Civil Liberties Union for forty + years and active in our local chapter.The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) is a nonprofit organization founded in 1920 "to defend and preserve the individual rights and liberties guaranteed to every person in this country by the Constitution and laws of the United States". The ACLU works through litigation and lobbying and it has over 1,200,000 members and an annual budget of over $300 million.
What have you done to preserve our 'Bill of Rights?'
you have got to do better than that. I don't need to investigate them I know what they are. Have you really taken a look at CNN, MSNBC, NYT. Doesn't sound like you have. It commendable that you belong to ACLU. Then you would know how threatened we are. Correction on the Bill of Rights. There is one that this administration has violated. So far we haven't been required to quarter soldiers in our home. You missed what the school incident is about. CRT was a part of that school board meeting. Rape and the cover up became the last part of that meeting. CRT is a contentious issue around the country. You might look at some of the other meetings, as well as mask mandated. Take a look at NYC and San Diego. The country is on fire with many issues. Maybe the ACLU could start taking up the cause. The incident in St Louis was ignored by the ACLU. The home others said no response came from ACLU. It would have been a perfect case for them.
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Post by dmmichgood on Oct 19, 2021 21:14:22 GMT -5
If you believe that other media sources are inaccurate and deceptive, then YOU should investigate them!You are saying they are no better than OAN, -but you aren't presenting any documentation to that effect.As for the school board episodes. From what I am gathering the real issue is that is about teaching e CRT in schools.But instead, the instance you are presenting it is NOT about that all, but about an sexual attack on their daughter.Certainly parents has the right & obligation to make sure their children are safe from such sexual attacks.
But that was NOT what the DOJ was talking about! You & others are using this out of context as an distraction from the real issue which is the teaching of CRT.You an others are simply using it to confuse people and muddy the water! PS: Yes, -I have 'taken a look at the Bill of Rights lately,' and many times before that!I have been a member of the ACLU, American Civil Liberties Union for forty + years and active in our local chapter.The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) is a nonprofit organization founded in 1920 "to defend and preserve the individual rights and liberties guaranteed to every person in this country by the Constitution and laws of the United States". The ACLU works through litigation and lobbying and it has over 1,200,000 members and an annual budget of over $300 million.
What have you done to preserve our 'Bill of Rights?'
you have got to do better than that. I don't need to investigate them I know what they are. Have you really taken a look at CNN, MSNBC, NYT. Doesn't sound like you have. It commendable that you belong to ACLU. Then you would know how threatened we are. Correction on the Bill of Rights. There is one that this administration has violated. So far we haven't been required to quarter soldiers in our home. You missed what the school incident is about. CRT was a part of that school board meeting. Rape and the cover up became the last part of that meeting. CRT is a contentious issue around the country. You might look at some of the other meetings, as well as mask mandated. Take a look at NYC and San Diego. The country is on fire with many issues. Maybe the ACLU could start taking up the cause. The incident in St Louis was ignored by the ACLU. The home others said no response came from ACLU. It would have been a perfect case for them. Christiansburg, That is a strange post!
Christiansburg, -you say about me that - I "have got to do better than that" and It "Doesn't sound like you (I) have" done any investigation.
Yet you yourself states "I (you) don't need to investigate them, I know what they are."
Sorry, but I can't compete with that kind of knowledge because, unlike you , I am merely a human being I am not and never claimed to be "omniscient."
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Post by christiansburg on Oct 19, 2021 22:09:28 GMT -5
In general parents have been unruly in response to CRT, but they have yet to resort to looting and burning down buildings. Suggesting they qualify as domestic terrorists is just plain dumb. The specific incident involving the girl raped by a cross-dressing boy in the girl's room is an outlier, but frankly, seeing a precedent that any boy can slip on a skirt and go into the girl's bathroom just illustrates how progressivism can become regressive and degenerate. Parents have the unequivocal right to dictate the learning outcomes for their children, and the response to CRT shows to me that most people (regardless of skin color) are fed up with the race-baiting and regressive deterministic philosophy of social reconstruction. I listened to MLK Jr.s "Dream" speech the other day. I had to remind myself what the civil rights movement used to be about. I disagree. critical race theory (CRT), intellectual and social movement and loosely organized framework of legal analysis based on the premise that race is not a natural, biologically grounded feature of physically distinct subgroups of human beings but a socially constructed (culturally invented) category that is used to oppress and exploit people of colour. Critical race theorists hold that racism is inherent in the law and legal institutions of the United States insofar as they function to create and maintain social, economic, and political inequalities between whites and nonwhites, especially African Americans. Critical race theorists are generally dedicated to applying their understanding of the institutional or structural nature of racism to the concrete (if distant) goal of eliminating all race-based and other unjust hierarchies. Background and early history Critical race theory (CRT) was officially organized in 1989, at the first annual Workshop on Critical Race Theory, though its intellectual origins go back much farther, to the 1960s and ’70s. Its immediate precursor was the critical legal studies (CLS) movement, which dedicated itself to examining how the law and legal institutions serve the interests of the wealthy and powerful at the expense of the poor and marginalized. (CLS, an offshoot of Marxist-oriented critical theory, may also be viewed as a radicalization of early 20th-century legal realism, a school of legal philosophy according to which judicial decision making, especially at the appellate level, is influenced as much by nonlegal—political or ideological—factors as by precedent and principles of legal reasoning.) Like CLS scholars, critical race theorists believed that political liberalism was incapable of adequately addressing fundamental problems of injustice in American society (notwithstanding legislation and court rulings advancing civil rights in the 1950s and ’60s), because its emphasis on the equitable treatment under the law of all races (“colour blindness”) rendered it capable of recognizing only the most overt and obvious racist practices, not those that were relatively indirect, subtle, or systemic Liberalism was also faulted for mistakenly presupposing the apolitical nature of judicial decision making and for taking a self-consciously incremental or reformist approach that prolonged unjust social arrangements and afforded opportunities for retrenchment and backsliding through administrative delays and conservative legal challenges. Unlike most CLS scholars, however, critical race theorists did not wish to abandon the notions of law or legal rights altogether, because, in their experience, some laws and legal reforms had done much to help oppressed or exploited people. I understand what CRT is all about but you have missed what I said that CRT was major part of that school board meeting and the parents complaints encompassed a broad array of many subject.
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Post by christiansburg on Oct 19, 2021 22:10:31 GMT -5
I disagree. critical race theory (CRT), intellectual and social movement and loosely organized framework of legal analysis based on the premise that race is not a natural, biologically grounded feature of physically distinct subgroups of human beings but a socially constructed (culturally invented) category that is used to oppress and exploit people of colour. Critical race theorists hold that racism is inherent in the law and legal institutions of the United States insofar as they function to create and maintain social, economic, and political inequalities between whites and nonwhites, especially African Americans. Critical race theorists are generally dedicated to applying their understanding of the institutional or structural nature of racism to the concrete (if distant) goal of eliminating all race-based and other unjust hierarchies. Background and early history Critical race theory (CRT) was officially organized in 1989, at the first annual Workshop on Critical Race Theory, though its intellectual origins go back much farther, to the 1960s and ’70s. Its immediate precursor was the critical legal studies (CLS) movement, which dedicated itself to examining how the law and legal institutions serve the interests of the wealthy and powerful at the expense of the poor and marginalized. (CLS, an offshoot of Marxist-oriented critical theory, may also be viewed as a radicalization of early 20th-century legal realism, a school of legal philosophy according to which judicial decision making, especially at the appellate level, is influenced as much by nonlegal—political or ideological—factors as by precedent and principles of legal reasoning.) Like CLS scholars, critical race theorists believed that political liberalism was incapable of adequately addressing fundamental problems of injustice in American society (notwithstanding legislation and court rulings advancing civil rights in the 1950s and ’60s), because its emphasis on the equitable treatment under the law of all races (“colour blindness”) rendered it capable of recognizing only the most overt and obvious racist practices, not those that were relatively indirect, subtle, or systemic Liberalism was also faulted for mistakenly presupposing the apolitical nature of judicial decision making and for taking a self-consciously incremental or reformist approach that prolonged unjust social arrangements and afforded opportunities for retrenchment and backsliding through administrative delays and conservative legal challenges. Unlike most CLS scholars, however, critical race theorists did not wish to abandon the notions of law or legal rights altogether, because, in their experience, some laws and legal reforms had done much to help oppressed or exploited people. I understand what CRT is all about but you have missed what I said that CRT was major part of that school board meeting and the parents complaints encompassed a broad array of many subject. Oh,yes, don't forget to give OAN at least one week of your time.
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Post by dmmichgood on Oct 19, 2021 23:04:42 GMT -5
I understand what CRT is all about but you have missed what I said that CRT was major part of that school board meeting and the parents complaints encompassed a broad array of many subject. Oh,yes, don't forget to give OAN at least one week of your time. None of what you just said changes your accusation when you say that I "have got to do better than that" or that you are so omniscient that you "don't need to investigate" other news media because "you know what they are." PS:
Just how do you know that the ACLU "ignored" the St Louis case?Are you a member? Do you donate anything to help them?It does cost money take on cases you know. You may think that, "would have been a perfect case for them."Do you have any idea of all the "perfect cases" the ACLU have to try to deal with?
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Post by 1chinesewhispers on Oct 19, 2021 23:14:31 GMT -5
If you believe that other media sources are inaccurate and deceptive, then YOU should investigate them!You are saying they are no better than OAN, -but you aren't presenting any documentation to that effect.As for the school board episodes. From what I am gathering the real issue is that is about teaching e CRT in schools.But instead, the instance you are presenting it is NOT about that all, but about an sexual attack on their daughter.Certainly parents has the right & obligation to make sure their children are safe from such sexual attacks.
But that was NOT what the DOJ was talking about! You & others are using this out of context as an distraction from the real issue which is the teaching of CRT.You an others are simply using it to confuse people and muddy the water! PS: Yes, -I have 'taken a look at the Bill of Rights lately,' and many times before that!I have been a member of the ACLU, American Civil Liberties Union for forty + years and active in our local chapter.The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) is a nonprofit organization founded in 1920 "to defend and preserve the individual rights and liberties guaranteed to every person in this country by the Constitution and laws of the United States". The ACLU works through litigation and lobbying and it has over 1,200,000 members and an annual budget of over $300 million.
What have you done to preserve our 'Bill of Rights?'
you have got to do better than that. I don't need to investigate them I know what they are. Have you really taken a look at CNN, MSNBC, NYT. Doesn't sound like you have. It commendable that you belong to ACLU. Then you would know how threatened we are. Correction on the Bill of Rights. There is one that this administration has violated. So far we haven't been required to quarter soldiers in our home. You missed what the school incident is about. CRT was a part of that school board meeting. Rape and the cover up became the last part of that meeting. CRT is a contentious issue around the country. You might look at some of the other meetings, as well as mask mandated. Take a look at NYC and San Diego. The country is on fire with many issues. Maybe the ACLU could start taking up the cause. The incident in St Louis was ignored by the ACLU. The home others said no response came from ACLU. It would have been a perfect case for them. Better than up your butt !
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2021 23:34:26 GMT -5
A lot of chatter here and you still keep your head in the sand. t is a good thing to report on right conservative opinions. You should also call up CNN, NYT and show their deceptive practices--they are the harbingers of a lost America with all their misinformation, editing of statements to construe a wrong impression. You would do better to never consider joining a school board as I don't think you could understand why parents complain of education gone awry. The school board covered up the crime. The school board member resigned because she finally realized the gravity of her crimes. And as to sexual explicit material being to elementary school children--is that proper? Maybe you espouse an America that goes communist the government takes away your voice in a childs education. Have you taken a looked at the Bill of Rights lately and found any that have not been violated in the last 10 months? We are in a sad state of affairs right now and if people don't wake up we will loose it all. I can't believe you want that. If you believe that other media sources are inaccurate and deceptive, then YOU should investigate them!You are saying they are no better than OAN, -but you aren't presenting any documentation to that effect.As for the school board episodes. From what I am gathering the real issue is that is about teaching e CRT in schools.But instead, the instance you are presenting it is NOT about that all, but about an sexual attack on their daughter.Certainly parents has the right & obligation to make sure their children are safe from such sexual attacks.
But that was NOT what the DOJ was talking about! You & others are using this out of context as an distraction from the real issue which is the teaching of CRT.You an others are simply using it to confuse people and muddy the water! PS: Yes, -I have 'taken a look at the Bill of Rights lately,' and many times before that!I have been a member of the ACLU, American Civil Liberties Union for forty + years and active in our local chapter.The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) is a nonprofit organization founded in 1920 "to defend and preserve the individual rights and liberties guaranteed to every person in this country by the Constitution and laws of the United States". The ACLU works through litigation and lobbying and it has over 1,200,000 members and an annual budget of over $300 million.
What have you done to preserve our 'Bill of Rights?'
Since I have white skin, in "woke" circles my opinions are less valuable. Because I am of the oppressor class. (Never mind that my ancestors never enslaved anyone, and being immigrants to northern states, any ancestors I would've had wouldn't have had slaves either. And would've been fighting for the north) So here's a black person's perspective. "Critical race theory is the latest iteration of this vicious cycle. Worse, it adds in an element of divisiveness that sets our kids up for failure. Black children will learn to resent white children based on history viewed through a racial lens, and white children will learn to dislike who they are or be resentful of being told their skin color makes them inherently tyrannical." www.newsweek.com/listen-black-parents-furious-critical-race-theory-opinion-1601990He put it better than I could anyway. In MLK Jr's speech, he was talking about black boys and girls holding hands with white boys and girls. Unity. CRT will sow division and resentment for generations to come. I learned about racism and the evils of slavery in elementary school. It is not lost on children that oppression occurs towards "other" groups. Schools can and do teach this implicitly without legitimizing it in the form of CRT. Should I chastise the Iroquois for destroying the Mahicans, Huron, Neutral, Erie, and Algonquins during the beaver wars? What of the thousands of African slaves owned by the Cherokee? History never mentions the Choctaw chief Greenwood Leflore, who owned over 400 Africans. According to CRT, the Cherokee were oppressed... but they themselves have a history of exterminating the Lakota, and owning African slaves. How should they see themselves - hero or villain? My argument against CRT is that it dumbs down history to fit a narrative which is only serving to perpetuate continual division.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Oct 21, 2021 21:13:19 GMT -5
If you believe that other media sources are inaccurate and deceptive, then YOU should investigate them!You are saying they are no better than OAN, -but you aren't presenting any documentation to that effect.As for the school board episodes. From what I am gathering the real issue is that is about teaching e CRT in schools.But instead, the instance you are presenting it is NOT about that all, but about an sexual attack on their daughter.Certainly parents has the right & obligation to make sure their children are safe from such sexual attacks.
But that was NOT what the DOJ was talking about! You & others are using this out of context as an distraction from the real issue which is the teaching of CRT.You an others are simply using it to confuse people and muddy the water! PS: Yes, -I have 'taken a look at the Bill of Rights lately,' and many times before that!I have been a member of the ACLU, American Civil Liberties Union for forty + years and active in our local chapter.The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) is a nonprofit organization founded in 1920 "to defend and preserve the individual rights and liberties guaranteed to every person in this country by the Constitution and laws of the United States". The ACLU works through litigation and lobbying and it has over 1,200,000 members and an annual budget of over $300 million.
What have you done to preserve our 'Bill of Rights?'
Since I have white skin, in "woke" circles my opinions are less valuable. Because I am of the oppressor class. (Never mind that my ancestors never enslaved anyone, and being immigrants to northern states, any ancestors I would've had wouldn't have had slaves either. And would've been fighting for the north) So here's a black person's perspective. "Critical race theory is the latest iteration of this vicious cycle. Worse, it adds in an element of divisiveness that sets our kids up for failure. Black children will learn to resent white children based on history viewed through a racial lens, and white children will learn to dislike who they are or be resentful of being told their skin color makes them inherently tyrannical." www.newsweek.com/listen-black-parents-furious-critical-race-theory-opinion-1601990He put it better than I could anyway. In MLK Jr's speech, he was talking about black boys and girls holding hands with white boys and girls. Unity. CRT will sow division and resentment for generations to come. I learned about racism and the evils of slavery in elementary school. It is not lost on children that oppression occurs towards "other" groups. Schools can and do teach this implicitly without legitimizing it in the form of CRT. Should I chastise the Iroquois for destroying the Mahicans, Huron, Neutral, Erie, and Algonquins during the beaver wars? What of the thousands of African slaves owned by the Cherokee? History never mentions the Choctaw chief Greenwood Leflore, who owned over 400 Africans. According to CRT, the Cherokee were oppressed... but they themselves have a history of exterminating the Lakota, and owning African slaves. How should they see themselves - hero or villain? My argument against CRT is that it dumbs down history to fit a narrative which is only serving to perpetuate continual division. My view is. We right what wrongs we can and we do not repeat them. We treat each other as we would want to be treated. For what its worth I reckon the term woke to be pathetic. Its generally used by someone who has realized they can no longer get away with being an not a very nice person towards others.
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Post by BobWilliston on Oct 21, 2021 21:19:27 GMT -5
My view is. We right what wrongs we can and we do not repeat them. We treat each other as we would want to be treated. For what its worth I reckon the term woke to be pathetic. Its generally used by someone who has realized they can no longer get away with being an not a very nice person towards others. Precisely.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2021 23:24:57 GMT -5
Since I have white skin, in "woke" circles my opinions are less valuable. Because I am of the oppressor class. (Never mind that my ancestors never enslaved anyone, and being immigrants to northern states, any ancestors I would've had wouldn't have had slaves either. And would've been fighting for the north) So here's a black person's perspective. "Critical race theory is the latest iteration of this vicious cycle. Worse, it adds in an element of divisiveness that sets our kids up for failure. Black children will learn to resent white children based on history viewed through a racial lens, and white children will learn to dislike who they are or be resentful of being told their skin color makes them inherently tyrannical." www.newsweek.com/listen-black-parents-furious-critical-race-theory-opinion-1601990He put it better than I could anyway. In MLK Jr's speech, he was talking about black boys and girls holding hands with white boys and girls. Unity. CRT will sow division and resentment for generations to come. I learned about racism and the evils of slavery in elementary school. It is not lost on children that oppression occurs towards "other" groups. Schools can and do teach this implicitly without legitimizing it in the form of CRT. Should I chastise the Iroquois for destroying the Mahicans, Huron, Neutral, Erie, and Algonquins during the beaver wars? What of the thousands of African slaves owned by the Cherokee? History never mentions the Choctaw chief Greenwood Leflore, who owned over 400 Africans. According to CRT, the Cherokee were oppressed... but they themselves have a history of exterminating the Lakota, and owning African slaves. How should they see themselves - hero or villain? My argument against CRT is that it dumbs down history to fit a narrative which is only serving to perpetuate continual division. My view is. We right what wrongs we can and we do not repeat them. We treat each other as we would want to be treated. For what its worth I reckon the term woke to be pathetic. Its generally used by someone who has realized they can no longer get away with being an not a very nice person towards others. The current use of woke was started(2010ish) by those on the left(like yourself)and is about supposed racial(Black)awareness... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woke
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2021 2:07:53 GMT -5
Since I have white skin, in "woke" circles my opinions are less valuable. Because I am of the oppressor class. (Never mind that my ancestors never enslaved anyone, and being immigrants to northern states, any ancestors I would've had wouldn't have had slaves either. And would've been fighting for the north) So here's a black person's perspective. "Critical race theory is the latest iteration of this vicious cycle. Worse, it adds in an element of divisiveness that sets our kids up for failure. Black children will learn to resent white children based on history viewed through a racial lens, and white children will learn to dislike who they are or be resentful of being told their skin color makes them inherently tyrannical." www.newsweek.com/listen-black-parents-furious-critical-race-theory-opinion-1601990He put it better than I could anyway. In MLK Jr's speech, he was talking about black boys and girls holding hands with white boys and girls. Unity. CRT will sow division and resentment for generations to come. I learned about racism and the evils of slavery in elementary school. It is not lost on children that oppression occurs towards "other" groups. Schools can and do teach this implicitly without legitimizing it in the form of CRT. Should I chastise the Iroquois for destroying the Mahicans, Huron, Neutral, Erie, and Algonquins during the beaver wars? What of the thousands of African slaves owned by the Cherokee? History never mentions the Choctaw chief Greenwood Leflore, who owned over 400 Africans. According to CRT, the Cherokee were oppressed... but they themselves have a history of exterminating the Lakota, and owning African slaves. How should they see themselves - hero or villain? My argument against CRT is that it dumbs down history to fit a narrative which is only serving to perpetuate continual division. My view is. We right what wrongs we can and we do not repeat them. We treat each other as we would want to be treated. For what its worth I reckon the term woke to be pathetic. Its generally used by someone who has realized they can no longer get away with being an not a very nice person towards others. In the states, we have a sort of melting pot of ideas as to how to address these things. Assuming we recognize that there is a problem of inequality and it (on rough average) can be predicted by immutable characteristics (race, gender, sex, age...) we can aim for equality, equity and/or justice. By in large, equality has been addressed well with equal treatment under the law, thanks mostly to the civil rights movement. Equity has been somewhat addressed, with things like affirmative action, and differential medical/health action based on the above (for example, I'm giving a lecture sponsored by our schools diversity committee on which I sit, on the phenomenon of vitamin D deficiency along racial lines - dark skin produces less endogenous vitamin D). I'm board with many "equity" initiatives, as they address the future looking at the present. The "social justice" movements (insomuch as they seek to amplify past grievances without recognition of progress) seem to me mostly ill thought out, reactive, and largely uninformed. Reparations for descendents of slaves is perhaps for me the most repugnant. Reparations should (in my mind) be only for people who were directly affected. The absorbent amount of money we still pay to native American tribes, while largely ignoring actually helping them with things like high rates of alcoholism (that would be "equity") illustrates to me the pitfal of hasty "justice". Just my 2 cents.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2021 0:14:58 GMT -5
www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10132499/amp/Loudoun-County-parents-tell-Obama-apologize-rape-victims-dad-fake-outrage-claim.htmlJudge finds dressy-boy rapist guilty. "the former President called the row encircling it 'fake outrage' and a 'phony trumped-up culture wars" "The fact he's willing to go along with it, instead if talk about serious problems that affect serious people, that's a shame. That's not what this election is about. That's not what you need, Virginia." Dismiss the victim. How religious of Barry. People are outraged because the actually HAVE empathy. Those evil right-wingers who we've been told just don't care.... Equity would be Barry getting his a** kicked along with the school board, AND the Biden administration who advised them to call concerned parents "terrorists". I know several million Americans who aren't leftists who would be glad to oblige. Myself included. Serves me right for saying I liked him. He had daughters for crying out loud! Good to know he would throw them under the bus if it meant a speaking fee at a campaign event. (I ASSUME he was paid. The idea he'd say such stupid things pro bono is too much). Wonder how much they paid him to campaign for that loser Governor? Bye bye Barrecia.
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