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Post by 1chinesewhispers on Jul 19, 2021 21:56:28 GMT -5
"SO SAD ! TO SEE ! I DID SAY I WOULD POP IN . BAD TIMING ! What would a new comer get from this ! THIS IS PERTAINING TO QUOTE OF WHEN DID LAST YOU READ YOUR BIBLE . Plus a extra example pertaining to the words we use without thinking 🤔 before hand . WHEN DID YOU LAST READ YOUR BIBLE ?………….. I read my BIBLE everyday , plus pay attention to the colors in the BIBLE & what thy stand for in KJV . Plus the 5 colors of Buddha . Meditate as I go deeper into Buddhism & what their colors stand for . Sometimes just for comfort and knowledge The following verses ARE ! Those who live in glass houses should not throw stones" is a proverb in the Bible . It means that "One should not cause harm to other people if he is himself vulnerable". The phrase is also commonly used religions ! Pertaining hypocrisy in implying that "One who is vulnerable to criticism regarding a certain issue should not others about the same issue." Jesus says it in Matthew 7:1-3: "Do not judge, so that you may not be judged. For with the judgment you make you will be judged, and the measure you give will be the measure you get. Why do you see the speck in your neighbor's eye, but do not notice the log in your own eye? But WOW ! These are on queue , a situation is happening here in Texas . My Bible travels with me . As we try to find solace about mom’s passing . Furthermore my beautiful youngest daughter lost her final grandparents on July 8th . Still unable to hold a service till September All have passed now we are am seeking calm and closure in our lives 7 family members in 7 months now . Time out again Feel like 🤢 At this present sh- show . Back to my deck , as I ponder if a amend is required for a situation . I read my Bible everyday ! Even though we are not 2X2’s We are usually kind ………….. BUDDHISM is very different practice ! We are as kind as we can be & I We are certainly not professing souls . However we do our best We sing hymns for comfort still , especially , O ‘For the for peace of a perfect trust . 2X2’s are not for us . So those of us left are seeking answers . Cheers 🥂 🍻 Will pop in again sometime ! 👍 My youngest spends 2-4 nights hanging around 2X2’’S . They remained human !! Love and accept on each side forever . We cherish them and the other’s we see . JUDGING ANOTHER PERSON DOES NOT DEFINE WHO THEY ARE ! IT DEFINES WHO YOU ARE ! Sorry about repeats , too much sun but it was fun 🤩 Thx R & C as well for your support . Plus guest8
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Post by 1chinesewhispers on Jul 19, 2021 22:09:29 GMT -5
Oooppps time to let my 3 year old gg to post
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Post by BobWilliston on Jul 19, 2021 22:16:52 GMT -5
You mean thank crappy science. No, thanks to the doctors! Who discovered insulants for diabetics to live a normal life.
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Post by 1chinesewhispers on Jul 19, 2021 22:23:21 GMT -5
"SO SAD ! TO SEE ! I DID SAY I WOULD POP IN . BAD TIMING ! What would a new comer get from this ! THIS IS PERTAINING TO QUOTE OF WHEN DID LAST YOU READ YOUR BIBLE . Plus a extra example pertaining to the words we use without thinking 🤔 before hand . WHEN DID YOU LAST READ YOUR BIBLE ?………….. I read my BIBLE everyday , plus pay attention to the colors in the BIBLE & what thy stand for in KJV . Plus the 5 colors of Buddha . Meditate as I go deeper into Buddhism & what their colors stand for . Sometimes just for comfort and knowledge The following verses ARE ! Those who live in glass houses should not throw stones" is a proverb in the Bible . It means that "One should not cause harm to other people if he is himself vulnerable". The phrase is also commonly used religions ! Pertaining hypocrisy in implying that "One who is vulnerable to criticism regarding a certain issue should not others about the same issue." Jesus says it in Matthew 7:1-3: "Do not judge, so that you may not be judged. For with the judgment you make you will be judged, and the measure you give will be the measure you get. Why do you see the speck in your neighbor's eye, but do not notice the log in your own eye? But WOW ! These are on queue , a situation is happening here in Texas . My Bible travels with me . As we try to find solace about mom’s passing . Furthermore my beautiful youngest daughter lost her final grandparents on July 8th . Still unable to hold a service till September All have passed now we are am seeking calm and closure in our lives 7 family members in 7 months now . Time out again Feel like 🤢 At this present sh- show . Back to my deck , as I ponder if a amend is required for a situation . I read my Bible everyday ! Even though we are not 2X2’s We are usually kind ………….. BUDDHISM is very different practice ! We are as kind as we can be & I We are certainly not professing souls . However we do our best We sing hymns for comfort still , especially , O ‘For the for peace of a perfect trust . 2X2’s are not for us . So those of us left are seeking answers . Cheers 🥂 🍻 Will pop in again sometime ! 👍 My youngest spends 2-4 nights hanging around 2X2’’S . They remained human !! Love and accept on each side forever . We cherish them and the other’s we see . JUDGING ANOTHER PERSON DOES NOT DEFINE WHO THEY ARE ! IT DEFINES WHO YOU ARE ! Sorry about repeats , too much sun but it was fun 🤩 Thx R & C as well for your support . Plus guest8
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Post by 1chinesewhispers on Jul 19, 2021 22:30:33 GMT -5
So sorry Roslyn and Curley and Guest8 . Accidentally removed your names by accident !
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2021 22:42:28 GMT -5
Exactly Dmmichgood. Anyone that has or had involvement in social services/ social institutions should of kept up with research ( well common sense too) re that concept. several of the counselors where i worked used the tough love approach even this year. I have a Granddaughter who is a practising Behavioural Consultant. Never would she use tough love. When you try to be as honest as possible (which you can do compassionately), you realise that “tough love” is just an excuse for lacking the ability to present things in the most effective way. It's not about being the most right, it's about getting the best end result. Tough love is often is a cover up for verbal assault. Think Wally may be working for the wrong agency.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2021 22:53:02 GMT -5
several of the counselors where i worked used the tough love approach even this year. I have a Granddaughter who is a practising Behavioural Consultant. Never would she use tough love. When you try to be as honest as possible (which you can do compassionately), you realise that “tough love” is just an excuse for lacking the ability to present things in the most effective way. It's not about being the most right, it's about getting the best end result. Tough love is often is a cover up for verbal assault. Think Wally may be working for the wrong agency. every counselor i have met uses a different approach...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2021 23:02:02 GMT -5
Must be an American thing, not recommended in Australia. We deplore any sort of violence, we are peace loving people. Believe in showing compassion.
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Post by Pragmatic on Jul 19, 2021 23:10:51 GMT -5
I have a Granddaughter who is a practising Behavioural Consultant. Never would she use tough love. When you try to be as honest as possible (which you can do compassionately), you realise that “tough love” is just an excuse for lacking the ability to present things in the most effective way. It's not about being the most right, it's about getting the best end result. Tough love is often is a cover up for verbal assault. Think Wally may be working for the wrong agency. every counselor i have met uses a different approach... There is a time and place for things. I admit to using tough love when coaching Rugby. And I've had parents complain, especially when teaching boys that the "ground is your friend". One of those who was at Francis Douglas at the time, has gone on to be a pretty handy rugby player, Jordie Barrett. His parents never complained of course! Smiley loved it, and he and Robyn are friends of the family, and our son plays golf with Jordie and Beauden from time to time. Both were handy cricketers too, Jordie and my son both representing our province. You can't coach contact sport with love and kindness, but you do need good communication skills.
But what works on the sports field, is not what works when dealing with the souls of the hurt and wounded, and often it is those who come on here. What they are looking for is not confirmation bias, but some "words in season", kindness, empathy, and understanding. Being told they going to "hell in a handbasket" if they don't believe the Gospel of Stranges is simply unhelpful.
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Post by verna on Jul 20, 2021 9:46:20 GMT -5
every counselor i have met uses a different approach... There is a time and place for things. I admit to using tough love when coaching Rugby. And I've had parents complain, especially when teaching boys that the "ground is your friend". One of those who was at Francis Douglas at the time, has gone on to be a pretty handy rugby player, Jordie Barrett. His parents never complained of course! Smiley loved it, and he and Robyn are friends of the family, and our son plays golf with Jordie and Beauden from time to time. Both were handy cricketers too, Jordie and my son both representing our province. You can't coach contact sport with love and kindness, but you do need good communication skills.
But what works on the sports field, is not what works when dealing with the souls of the hurt and wounded, and often it is those who come on here. What they are looking for is not confirmation bias, but some "words in season", kindness, empathy, and understanding. Being told they going to "hell in a handbasket" if they don't believe the Gospel of Stranges is simply unhelpful.
Thankyou Pragmatic. Well said.
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Post by intelchips on Jul 20, 2021 10:44:27 GMT -5
How does Nathan and Wally look at Paul's messages: objective or subjective? objective: expressing or dealing with facts or conditions as perceived without distortion by personal feelings, prejudices, or interpretations subjective: lacking in reality or substance : ILLUSORY Why does it matter? Learn about how Gabriel a 7th c. Priest gave Muhammad a Christian Qur'an! which suggest how little Muslims know about their own beginning which is much like Christians know about their beginnings. Interesting facts for those who take the time to watch: www.youtube.com/watch?v=smPPn-ZqCV0
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Post by bluejay on Jul 20, 2021 11:07:57 GMT -5
There is a time and place for things. I admit to using tough love when coaching Rugby. And I've had parents complain, especially when teaching boys that the "ground is your friend". One of those who was at Francis Douglas at the time, has gone on to be a pretty handy rugby player, Jordie Barrett. His parents never complained of course! Smiley loved it, and he and Robyn are friends of the family, and our son plays golf with Jordie and Beauden from time to time. Both were handy cricketers too, Jordie and my son both representing our province. You can't coach contact sport with love and kindness, but you do need good communication skills.
But what works on the sports field, is not what works when dealing with the souls of the hurt and wounded, and often it is those who come on here. What they are looking for is not confirmation bias, but some "words in season", kindness, empathy, and understanding. Being told they going to "hell in a handbasket" if they don't believe the Gospel of Stranges is simply unhelpful.
Thankyou Pragmatic. Well said. I totally agree Pragmatic. It's all about context and situation. I was involved in the arena of international sports years ago. The best coaches knew *who* needed tough love, and who needed words of confirmation and support. Their athletes always stood on the podium at the end of the day. I also have personal experience these days with BC's. And truthfully, those less fortunate who find themselves in the system of social workers have most likely suffered horrors in their early years. Gaining their trust first though kindness and empathy must be the foundation to success. Then down the road if tough love is needed it will be much more likely to be successful. Same goes with those who come here looking for answers and support as they work through (in most cases) years of unrest. My truth may not be their truth. No pun intended. My motto is be kind. Words can wound.
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Post by dmmichgood on Jul 20, 2021 15:44:46 GMT -5
You mean thank crappy science. No, thanks to the doctors! Who discovered insulants for diabetics to live a normal life. So, Nathan, you appear unaware that doctors depend on science to understand & treat diseases?
Perhaps you need to read the history of the treatment with insulin. Insulin: A Diabetes Medication The History of Insulin as a Diabetes Treatment Written by Corie Richter, PA The first medication for the treatment of diabetes was insulin, isolated in 1922 by a Toronto team led by Dr. Fredrick Banting. For many years, insulin was the only diabetes treatment—and it was quite the lifesaver when it was first discovered. Before insulin was discovered as a treatment for diabetes, people with diabetes, sadly, couldn't expect to live long.
The First Insulins as Diabetes Medications After its discovery as a diabetes medication, insulin was mass produced from the pancreas of cows or pigs. This is called bovine (cow) insulin or porcine (pig) insulin, and these animal versions were the only way to make insulin for awhile cont@ www.ontrackdiabetes.com/blood-glucose/insulin-diabetes-medication#:~:text=The%20first%20medication%20for%20the%20treatment%20of%20diabetes,quite%20the%20lifesaver%20when%20it%20was%20first%
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2021 17:25:20 GMT -5
How does Nathan and Wally look at Paul's messages: objective or subjective? objective: expressing or dealing with facts or conditions as perceived without distortion by personal feelings, prejudices, or interpretations subjective: lacking in reality or substance : ILLUSORY Why does it matter? Learn about how Gabriel a 7th c. Priest gave Muhammad a Christian Qur'an! which suggest how little Muslims know about their own beginning which is much like Christians know about their beginnings. Interesting facts for those who take the time to watch: www.youtube.com/watch?v=smPPn-ZqCV0this is the definition of subjective: based on or influenced by personal feelings, tastes, or opinions: there were only a couple times that Paul took the subjective route....
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Post by fixit on Jul 20, 2021 17:50:48 GMT -5
JUDGING ANOTHER PERSON DOES NOT DEFINE WHO THEY ARE ! IT DEFINES WHO YOU ARE ! Well said.
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Post by joanna on Jul 20, 2021 19:15:47 GMT -5
verna. I cannot imagine why any self-respecting 2x2 person would even come onto this board. Wouldn't they want to avoid being grouped with people who present (literally) sci-fi biblical interpretations? Or feel bullied by those ex 2x2's -still Christians who seem intent on demolishing the group from the outside? Or be unable to tolerate those of us who are now atheists and who critique the very foundation of their belief? If I was a 'kind and reasonable 2x2', I'd keep the hell away from this forum
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Post by verna on Jul 20, 2021 19:19:05 GMT -5
verna. I cannot imagine why any self-respecting 2x2 person would even come onto this board. Wouldn't they want to avoid being grouped with people who present (literally) sci-fi biblical interpretations? Or feel bullied by those ex 2x2's -still Christians who seem intent on demolishing the group from the outside? Or be unable to tolerate those of us who are now atheists and who critique the very foundation of their belief? If I was a 'kind and reasonable 2x2', I'd keep the hell away from this forum You make a good point.
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Post by guest8 on Jul 20, 2021 20:12:14 GMT -5
verna . I cannot imagine why any self-respecting 2x2 person would even come onto this board. Wouldn't they want to avoid being grouped with people who present (literally) sci-fi biblical interpretations? Or feel bullied by those ex 2x2's -still Christians who seem intent on demolishing the group from the outside? Or be unable to tolerate those of us who are now atheists and who critique the very foundation of their belief? If I was a 'kind and reasonable 2x2', I'd keep the hell away from this forum You make a good point. Well as I see it Joanna, the kind and reasonable folk are strong people who oppose their church being denigrated by someone who ‘claims’ to be in it. Who, claims to be an online worker but adds so many other things into their gospel. I understand why they confront. Such folk, I don't believe feel bullied by most ex 2x2’s, in fact they show respect to the ex’s including atheists as yourself. They don’t put themselves in a position to belittle others who were once with them but respect the fact that everyone has their own journey. I understand, they don't see it as their position on a chat board, to be preaching fire and brimstone 24/7 to other posters. I stand to be corrected. People are heartily sick of it. And after all, the board is a place for all who have been part of or are part of the church including you and I. But understand the sentiments you express.
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Post by verna on Jul 20, 2021 20:22:15 GMT -5
Well as I see it Joanna, the kind and reasonable folk are strong people who oppose their church being denigrated by someone who ‘claims’ to be in it. Who, claims to be an online worker but adds so many other things into their gospel. I understand why they confront. Such folk, I don't believe feel bullied by most ex 2x2’s, in fact they show respect to the ex’s including atheists as yourself. They don’t put themselves in a position to denigrate others who were once with them but respect the fact that everyone has their own journey. I understand, they don't see it as their position on a chat board to be preaching fire and brimstone 24/7 to other posters. I stand to be corrected. People are heartily sick of it. And after all, the board is a place for all who have been part of or are part of the church including you and I. But understand the sentiments you express. I agree Guest8. I appreciate the “2x2s” who are willing to try to set things straight. Although I certainly understand why they want to shut their eyes to it. I can’t understand why the workers allow this - people have been excommunicated for much less.
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Post by guest8 on Jul 20, 2021 20:25:34 GMT -5
Well as I see it Joanna, the kind and reasonable folk are strong people who oppose their church being denigrated by someone who ‘claims’ to be in it. Who, claims to be an online worker but adds so many other things into their gospel. I understand why they confront. Such folk, I don't believe feel bullied by most ex 2x2’s, in fact they show respect to the ex’s including atheists as yourself. They don’t put themselves in a position to denigrate others who were once with them but respect the fact that everyone has their own journey. I understand, they don't see it as their position on a chat board to be preaching fire and brimstone 24/7 to other posters. I stand to be corrected. People are heartily sick of it. And after all, the board is a place for all who have been part of or are part of the church including you and I. But understand the sentiments you express. I agree Guest8. I appreciate the “2x2s” who are willing to try to set things straight. Although I certainly understand why they want to shut their eyes to it. I can’t understand why the workers allow this - people have been excommunicated for much less. Absolutely. And I recall people have been asked not to partake in fellowship mtgs for a lot less than this crap we are exposed to on here.
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Post by Pragmatic on Jul 20, 2021 21:16:15 GMT -5
I agree Guest8. I appreciate the “2x2s” who are willing to try to set things straight. Although I certainly understand why they want to shut their eyes to it. I can’t understand why the workers allow this - people have been excommunicated for much less. Absolutely. And I recall people have been asked not to partake in fellowship mtgs for a lot less than this crap we are exposed to on here. I would suggest that he either knows something, or has something on, an overseer, or other powers that be; or he is viewed as being an eccentric, and they tolerate him, much like they did here with one chap down the South Island West Coast back in the 60-80's. Mind you, he wasn't running around preaching a contrary Gospel to what the workers were preaching!
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Post by BobWilliston on Jul 20, 2021 21:21:56 GMT -5
Absolutely. And I recall people have been asked not to partake in fellowship mtgs for a lot less than this crap we are exposed to on here. I would suggest that he either knows something, or has something on, an overseer, or other powers that be; or he is viewed as being an eccentric, and they tolerate him, much like they did here with one chap down the South Island West Coast back in the 60-80's. Mind you, he wasn't running around preaching a contrary Gospel to what the workers were preaching! He has admitted to "telling" the workers about people. If they weren't beholden to him in some way they'd have no problem sending him packing. The worst part of it all is that if he tells the workers someone is lying ... THEY BELIEVE HIM.
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Post by nathan on Jul 20, 2021 21:27:34 GMT -5
I would suggest that he either knows something, or has something on, an overseer, or other powers that be; or he is viewed as being an eccentric, and they tolerate him, much like they did here with one chap down the South Island West Coast back in the 60-80's. Mind you, he wasn't running around preaching a contrary Gospel to what the workers were preaching! He has admitted to "telling" the workers about people. If they weren't beholden to him in some way they'd have no problem sending him packing. The worst part of it all is that if he tells the workers someone is lying ... THEY BELIEVE HIM. If the workers ask me about so and so I tell them the truth what I know of that person and if I want to know so and so they tell me.
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Post by Pragmatic on Jul 20, 2021 21:30:30 GMT -5
He has admitted to "telling" the workers about people. If they weren't beholden to him in some way they'd have no problem sending him packing. The worst part of it all is that if he tells the workers someone is lying ... THEY BELIEVE HIM. If the workers ask me about so and so I tell them the truth what I know of that person and if I want to know so and so they tell me.So you're a brown noser and stool pigeon?
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Post by nathan on Jul 20, 2021 21:32:49 GMT -5
If the workers ask me about so and so I tell them the truth what I know of that person and if I want to know so and so they tell me. So you're a brown noser and stool pigeon? No, we just exchanging information about those who we care about. What the exes, the 2x2s on line are up to these days.
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Post by BobWilliston on Jul 20, 2021 21:33:59 GMT -5
If the workers ask me about so and so I tell them the truth what I know of that person and if I want to know so and so they tell me. So you're a brown noser and stool pigeon? With a long history.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2021 21:41:15 GMT -5
Ah the tittle tattle. You always had be careful of them as a 2x2, they caused a lot of trouble.
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Post by Pragmatic on Jul 20, 2021 21:46:23 GMT -5
So you're a brown noser and stool pigeon? With a long history. Thanks Bob - now that we have fleshed that out, we understand the character more. It also does not say much for the workers/overseer in his area if they are happy to operate with someone like this as their plant.
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