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Post by verna on Jul 18, 2021 11:20:26 GMT -5
I am very discouraged by this board. Although I am no longer a 2x2 and feel it’s teachings were harmful to me, I maintain respect for most 2x2 people. But I am losing it. There are very few representatives who post on this board and some who do (I will not name names) are showing the “system” and it’s people to be deplorable. Please show me that they do not truly represent the faith. I know those of us who have left can be hard on you. I understand that - but I need you to speak up if you are reading. We all need to show mutual respect. Souls are so easily wounded.
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Post by Dan on Jul 18, 2021 13:02:19 GMT -5
Don't be discouraged, most all 2x2's are respectful and reasonable to me. Jesus represents the Faith, compare what others say to what he taught to determine what's reasonable and what's not.
Some of the criticism has been on the Fire and Brimstone dialog, but its biblical and not threats. There's some extreme commentary, but I just put that on a shelf and stick with the basic Truth. We all tend to define things that we don't agree with as being unreasonable or even deplorable, but not everyone interprets things the same way. We profess Christ, not an opinion.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2021 13:51:30 GMT -5
I am very discouraged by this board. Although I am no longer a 2x2 and feel it’s teachings were harmful to me, I maintain respect for most 2x2 people. But I am losing it. There are very few representatives who post on this board and some who do (I will not name names) are showing the “system” and it’s people to be deplorable. Please show me that they do not truly represent the faith. I know those of us who have left can be hard on you. I understand that - but I need you to speak up if you are reading. We all need to show mutual respect. Souls are so easily wounded. deplorable is a two way street here on TMB been that way for years whether 2x2 or ex. forums are tough places maybe forum life is not for you?
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Post by nathan02 on Jul 18, 2021 13:54:26 GMT -5
Don't be discouraged, most all 2x2's are respectful and reasonable to me. Jesus represents the Faith, compare what others say to what he taught to determine what's reasonable and what's not.
Some of the criticism has been on the Fire and Brimstone dialog, but its biblical and not threats. There's some extreme commentary, but I just put that on a shelf and stick with the basic Truth.
We all tend to define things that we don't agree with as being unreasonable or even deplorable, but not everyone interprets things the same way. We profess Christ, not an opinion.
** Thanks, Dan. Show us the respect and we do the same. Please, don't POKE the bear and be nice to him. If you keep on poking, stabbing, kicking the bear it will attack.
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Post by fixit on Jul 18, 2021 14:11:09 GMT -5
Kind and reasonable 2x2s are speaking up but they have a life outside of TMB as well as Here.
Wally and Nathan are not representative of 2x2s.
Is Trump representative of Americans?
Verna, I don't judge you by Trump, so please don't judge me by Wally and Nathan.
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Post by verna on Jul 18, 2021 14:13:33 GMT -5
I am very discouraged by this board. Although I am no longer a 2x2 and feel it’s teachings were harmful to me, I maintain respect for most 2x2 people. But I am losing it. There are very few representatives who post on this board and some who do (I will not name names) are showing the “system” and it’s people to be deplorable. Please show me that they do not truly represent the faith. I know those of us who have left can be hard on you. I understand that - but I need you to speak up if you are reading. We all need to show mutual respect. Souls are so easily wounded. deplorable is a two way street here on TMB been that way for years whether 2x2 or ex. forums are tough places maybe forum life is not for you? I directed this thread to kind and reasonable 2x2s.
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Post by verna on Jul 18, 2021 14:20:50 GMT -5
Kind and reasonable 2x2s are speaking up but they have a life outside of TMB as well as Here. Wally and Nathan are not representative of 2x2s. Is Trump representative of Americans? Verna, I don't judge you by Trump, so please don't judge me by Wally and Nathan. I appreciate your input fixit. I consider you kind and reasonable. I just hope that other kind and reasonable 2x2s (I even hesitate to call them that because I know that is not a name they choose) will speak up because their reputation is being trashed by Nathan and Wally and I don’t believe it is accurate. I do take slight offence at being associated with Trump. I live in Canada not the USA!!! (That’s a joke though I’m not actually offended). Point taken.
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Post by verna on Jul 18, 2021 14:21:30 GMT -5
Don't be discouraged, most all 2x2's are respectful and reasonable to me. Jesus represents the Faith, compare what others say to what he taught to determine what's reasonable and what's not.
Some of the criticism has been on the Fire and Brimstone dialog, but its biblical and not threats. There's some extreme commentary, but I just put that on a shelf and stick with the basic Truth.
We all tend to define things that we don't agree with as being unreasonable or even deplorable, but not everyone interprets things the same way. We profess Christ, not an opinion.
** Thanks, Dan. Show us the respect and we do the same. Please, don't POKE the bear and be nice to him. If you keep on poking, stabbing, kicking the bear it will attack. I directed this post to kind and reasonable 2x2s.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2021 14:23:19 GMT -5
deplorable is a two way street here on TMB been that way for years whether 2x2 or ex. forums are tough places maybe forum life is not for you? I directed this thread to kind and reasonable 2x2s. if you don't want people to respond to a post then don't post....
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Post by fixit on Jul 18, 2021 14:51:29 GMT -5
I directed this thread to kind and reasonable 2x2s. if you don't want people to respond to a post then don't post.... Pick up on the social cues Wally.
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Post by fixit on Jul 18, 2021 14:54:17 GMT -5
Kind and reasonable 2x2s are speaking up but they have a life outside of TMB as well as Here. Wally and Nathan are not representative of 2x2s. Is Trump representative of Americans? Verna, I don't judge you by Trump, so please don't judge me by Wally and Nathan. I appreciate your input fixit. I consider you kind and reasonable. I just hope that other kind and reasonable 2x2s (I even hesitate to call them that because I know that is not a name they choose) will speak up because their reputation is being trashed by Nathan and Wally and I don’t believe it is accurate. I do take slight offence at being associated with Trump. I live in Canada not the USA!!! (That’s a joke though I’m not actually offended). Point taken. Sorry, I forgot you're from Canada. Glad point was taken.
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Post by nathan02 on Jul 18, 2021 15:27:04 GMT -5
** Thanks, Dan. Show us the respect and we do the same. Please, don't POKE the bear and be nice to him. If you keep on poking, stabbing, kicking the bear it will attack. I directed this post to kind and reasonable 2x2s. hey, I am kind and reasonable 2x2 just don't poke the bear. too many times it will fight back.
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Post by Annan on Jul 18, 2021 15:30:41 GMT -5
I directed this post to kind and reasonable 2x2s. hey, I am kind and reasonable just don't poke the bear. too many times it will fight back. If you can’t stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.
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Post by nathan02 on Jul 18, 2021 15:45:21 GMT -5
hey, I am kind and reasonable just don't poke the bear. too many times it will fight back. If you can’t stand the heat, get out of the kitchen. ** If you start shooting at people just for the fun of it expect plenty of fire power in returns. If you treat people with respect you get the same respect in return. Don't start the Fire! And jump up and down saying so and so start it.
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Post by Grant on Jul 18, 2021 15:55:25 GMT -5
I directed this post to kind and reasonable 2x2s. hey, I am kind and reasonable 2x2 just don't poke the bear. too many times it will fight back. You are not kind and reasonable, we can all see that. You have been poking the bear for 20 years and now people are speaking out. It's about time you started showing people respect and they might show you respect in return.
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Post by guest8 on Jul 18, 2021 15:57:03 GMT -5
Don't be discouraged, most all 2x2's are respectful and reasonable to me. Jesus represents the Faith, compare what others say to what he taught to determine what's reasonable and what's not.
Some of the criticism has been on the Fire and Brimstone dialog, but its biblical and not threats. There's some extreme commentary, but I just put that on a shelf and stick with the basic Truth.
We all tend to define things that we don't agree with as being unreasonable or even deplorable, but not everyone interprets things the same way. We profess Christ, not an opinion.
** Thanks, Dan. Show us the respect and we do the same. Please, don't POKE the bear and be nice to him. If you keep on poking, stabbing, kicking the bear it will attack. So stop poking the bear with your judgement and your sadistic threats of burning in hell. You are obsessed with spooky, sadistic thoughts. You cant tell me these ugly threatening thoughts are not on your mind as you sit in your fellowship mtg, your gospel mtg, your family life. Try to stop poking the bear and something may change on this board. No, The board doesn't need to be like this. Debate, opinions, sharing experiences yes.
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Post by nathan02 on Jul 18, 2021 15:59:31 GMT -5
hey, I am kind and reasonable 2x2 just don't poke the bear. too many times it will fight back. You are not kind and reasonable, we can all see that. You have been poking the bear for 20 years and now people are speaking out. It's about time you started showing people respect and they might show you respect in return. ** No, you better start showing me some respect and I will do the same. You/ex 2×2 have been butting heads with me for over 20 years. I don't think is going change with you and me.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2021 16:02:46 GMT -5
Verna you are a good and decent person, don't let people who are not representative of 2x2's get you down. They should not behave in that way, and it has caused great damage to TMB, so much so that all the good ones won't come near the forum any more. Many have cancelled their accounts, I still keep in contact via email. It is a sad situation but unfortunately we do always have to try and cope with verbally aggressive people. They have the problem not you. But we have to ignore their behaviour and support the good people on TMB who have struggled with it for years. Value the good and decent 2x2's that you know, don't reject them because of imposters.
Always remember "Don't take revenge, let Karma do the work".
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Post by guest8 on Jul 18, 2021 16:05:20 GMT -5
I am very discouraged by this board. Although I am no longer a 2x2 and feel it’s teachings were harmful to me, I maintain respect for most 2x2 people. But I am losing it. There are very few representatives who post on this board and some who do (I will not name names) are showing the “system” and it’s people to be deplorable. Please show me that they do not truly represent the faith. I know those of us who have left can be hard on you. I understand that - but I need you to speak up if you are reading. We all need to show mutual respect. Souls are so easily wounded. deplorable is a two way street here on TMB been that way for years whether 2x2 or ex. forums are tough places maybe forum life is not for you? That is a pathetic phrase that you keep on regurgitating. You may like the tough business/ confrontations because it appears you like arguing just about everything. No this forum does not need to be Wally-tough. i thought the friendlies were meant to be seen to be different; had a standard of behaviour in the world.
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Post by mountain on Jul 18, 2021 16:06:43 GMT -5
You are not kind and reasonable, we can all see that. You have been poking the bear for 20 years and now people are speaking out. It's about time you started showing people respect and they might show you respect in return. ** No, you better start showing me some respect and I will do the same. You/ex 2×2 have been butting heads with me for over 20 years. I don't think is going change with you and me. From what I have seen, enuf is usually respectful and kindly in the way he posts. Maybe it's the Aussie (or NZ) in him that you don't understand?
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Post by verna on Jul 18, 2021 16:10:31 GMT -5
Verna you are a good and decent person, don't let people who are not representative of 2x2's get you down. They should not behave in that way, and it has caused great damage to TMB, so much so that all the good ones won't come near the forum any more. Many have cancelled their accounts, I still keep in contact via email. It is a sad situation but unfortunately we do always have to try and cope with verbally aggressive people. They have the problem not you. But we have to ignore their behaviour and support the good people on TMB who have struggled with it for years. Value the good and decent 2x2's that you know, don't reject them because of imposters. Always remember "Don't take revenge, let Karma do the work". Of course Redback you are correct. However I am in a quandary.i would be happy to ignore them but I promised myself I will stand up to abuse and abusive people. Do you see my problem? Please give me guidance.
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Post by openingact34 on Jul 18, 2021 16:11:50 GMT -5
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Post by mountain on Jul 18, 2021 16:18:02 GMT -5
I must object in the strongest possible terms to Opening Act's above post which seriously overstates matters and is misleading. Hopefully the Admin will be watching and force OA to do something about it. No way should the the second caption terminate with TWO exclamation marks. One is sufficient!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2021 16:36:01 GMT -5
Verna I admire your resolve, and yes it is the good and decent thing to do, and the majority own TMB members would agree. They may have an agenda to destroy TMB, many other forums have evolved because of TMB being so toxic. But don't do your head in because of it , they are not worth it. Sadly many have tried and been destroyed by it.
“There is no way that a person who treats others badly when he is unhappy is a good person! A good person is a person who treats others well even when unhappy!” ― Mehmet Murat Ildan.
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Not respond in kind Choose not to take it personally. Respond with caring comment. Use some humour. Suggest they seek Professional help to change their attitude.
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Post by speak on Jul 18, 2021 17:17:38 GMT -5
I directed this post to kind and reasonable 2x2s. hey, I am kind and reasonable 2x2 just don't poke the bear. too many times it will fight back. Well your kind and reasonable is ugly.
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Post by verna on Jul 18, 2021 17:20:20 GMT -5
Verna I admire your resolve, and yes it is the good and decent thing to do, and the majority own TMB members would agree. They may have an agenda to destroy TMB, many other forums have evolved because of TMB being so toxic. But don't do your head in because of it , they are not worth it. Sadly many have tried and been destroyed by it. “There is no way that a person who treats others badly when he is unhappy is a good person! A good person is a person who treats others well even when unhappy!” ― Mehmet Murat Ildan. All we can do is, Not respond in kind Choose not to take it personally. Respond with caring comment. Use some humour. Suggest they seek Professional help to change their attitude. Thank you. Good advice.
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Post by speak on Jul 18, 2021 17:21:05 GMT -5
deplorable is a two way street here on TMB been that way for years whether 2x2 or ex. forums are tough places maybe forum life is not for you? That is a pathetic phrase that you keep on regurgitating. You may like the tough business/ confrontations because it appears you like arguing about just about everything. No this forum does not need to be Wally-tough. i thought the friendlies were meant to be seen to be different; had a standard of behaviour in the world. The friendlies are but there are those who are imposters.
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