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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2021 22:29:52 GMT -5
Its' all quite simple really.
1) Geographic isolation enables an elimination strategy due to relatively easy to administer border controls.
2) Therefore due to no Covid in the community, there isn't the heat to have to vaccinate, and we have been able to enjoy an "almost normal" lifestyle.
3) We are rolling out in various tiers the Pfizer vaccine with high percentages of Tier 1 and Tier 2 now vaccinated. Tier 3 begins next week, and the plan is to have enabled the population to be vaccinated by the end of the year.
the point is Holy NZ'rs are screeching at everyone to get vaccinated and yet they are behind the curve at this point in time by quite a bit...
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Post by nathan on Jul 13, 2021 22:30:31 GMT -5
Do you really think this outbreak is due to the friends and workers being "stupid"? I've known professing people and workers since birth. I am completely confident that the workers and the overseers labored extensively in prayer to obtain guidance from God about whether to conduct convention or not. The amount of effort that went into prayer regarding even more trivial decisions was astounding. I'm sure that many, if not most, of the people also prayed fervently about whether to attend or not. They got guidance directly from the creator of the universe, who numbers the very hairs on their heads. There is no way they just decided to hold a convention on their own. This was done with God's approval. How is this not all God's will and desire? And that is precisely how some would think! (if "think" is the right word!) You 2x2s down under do your things and let us Americans 2x2s do our things here in the United States. You down under don't like what the Americans overseers tell you what to do over there, so should do you do the same! Let the Americans workers and friends do what you see best for us over here. Mind your own business!
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Post by nathan on Jul 13, 2021 22:31:27 GMT -5
Have you told the workers and the friends who come to your Sunday morning meetings that you must Vaccinated to enter my home for the meetings, fixit?
Most are vaccinated already. So, are you going to tell the friends and workers who are NOT vaccinated NOT to enter your home for Sunday morning meetings?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2021 22:34:12 GMT -5
Have you told the workers and the friends who come to your Sunday morning meetings that you must Vaccinated to enter my home for the meetings, fixit?
Most are vaccinated already. most is not all, have you booted people out yet for not having had the jab?
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Post by nathan on Jul 13, 2021 22:44:15 GMT -5
Most are vaccinated already. most is not all, have you booted people out yet for not having had the jab? If fixit booted the workers and the friends unvaccinated out of his Sunday morning meetings! The overseer will COME and REMOVE his position as the 2x2 elder and take away the meeting in his home ASAP.
Fixit, will NOT say a word, Wally. As Review said fixit speaks freely on here but in front of the workers he is afraid to say anything to them face to face.
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Post by Pragmatic on Jul 13, 2021 22:46:23 GMT -5
Its' all quite simple really.
1) Geographic isolation enables an elimination strategy due to relatively easy to administer border controls.
2) Therefore due to no Covid in the community, there isn't the heat to have to vaccinate, and we have been able to enjoy an "almost normal" lifestyle.
3) We are rolling out in various tiers the Pfizer vaccine with high percentages of Tier 1 and Tier 2 now vaccinated. Tier 3 begins next week, and the plan is to have enabled the population to be vaccinated by the end of the year.
the point is Holy NZ'rs are screeching at everyone to get vaccinated and yet they are behind the curve at this point in time by quite a bit... Wrong. They are not screeching at everyone to get vaccinated. We are making the point though, that where there is Covid in the community, that super spreader events should not occur, including in our own church, and that groups of people that are vaccinated are better protected. There is data now to back this up, with regard to the rNA type vaccines. We are also pointing out that those who refuse to get vaccinated are jeopardising the safety of others. This is not screeching at everyone to get vaccinated!
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Post by Pragmatic on Jul 13, 2021 22:48:00 GMT -5
Most are vaccinated already. most is not all, have you booted people out yet for not having had the jab? There is no community Covid in NZ, so your question to Fixit is moot, and not worthy of a reply, as you're simply wanting to entrap him with any answer he gives for the purposes of you wanting to score debate points.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2021 22:50:45 GMT -5
the point is Holy NZ'rs are screeching at everyone to get vaccinated and yet they are behind the curve at this point in time by quite a bit... Wrong. They are not screeching at everyone to get vaccinated. We are making the point though, that where there is Covid in the community, that super spreader events should not occur, including in our own church, and that groups of people that are vaccinated are better protected. There is data now to back this up, with regard to the rNA type vaccines. We are also pointing out that those who refuse to get vaccinated are jeopardising the safety of others. This is not screeching at everyone to get vaccinated! sounds like you haven't been listening much to your fellow NZ'r fixit on here at all... www.youtube.com/watch?v=lY-t_8O6RTM3.5 minutes long
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2021 22:53:18 GMT -5
** What a bunch of baloney! These days people can catch Corvid-19 anywhere you go! With or without the vaccines shots. The Ronans convention prove that! Big gathering is NOT good. We don't know who has been vaccinated or NOT. Even those who had been vaccinated still get the Virus. They might have to have gospel meetings and conventions over the phones. Wake up Nate. Almost all of the new cases — 99.7% — are among people who have not been vaccinated.ex-fricken-actly! Lower transmission, lower duration, almost no mortality associated with being fully vaccinated.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2021 22:53:51 GMT -5
most is not all, have you booted people out yet for not having had the jab? There is no community Covid in NZ, so your question to Fixit is moot, and not worthy of a reply, as you're simply wanting to entrap him with any answer he gives for the purposes of you wanting to score debate points. he's the one that's been saying you can't be a worker if you don't have the jab or you shouldn't come to meetings... there are debates points here on TMB? is there a list somewhere i can see?
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Post by fixit on Jul 13, 2021 22:56:01 GMT -5
Most are vaccinated already. most is not all, have you booted people out yet for not having had the jab? I haven't had the jab myself yet, but I'll be getting it as soon as its available. How about you? Do you care enough about your fellow man to make sure you're as safe as possible from infecting anyone?
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Post by nathan on Jul 13, 2021 22:58:50 GMT -5
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Post by nathan on Jul 13, 2021 23:00:36 GMT -5
most is not all, have you booted people out yet for not having had the jab? I haven't had the jab myself yet, but I'll be getting it as soon as its available. How about you? Do you care enough about your fellow man to make sure you're as safe as possible from infecting anyone? What the heck! Here I thought you had the jab already, fixit. Wally and I both had the Vaccine shots and I will probably take the 3rd shot too.
Here you go on and on about people getting the Vaccines shots and you haven't get one shot, yet... hahahahaha. What a joke! you are, fixit. Wow! What a crack pot.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2021 23:04:49 GMT -5
most is not all, have you booted people out yet for not having had the jab? I haven't had the jab myself yet, but I'll be getting it as soon as its available. How about you? Do you care enough about your fellow man to make sure you're as safe as possible from infecting anyone? about 4 months ago situation beyond my control(forced)but at least it was the more natural J&J shot not that experimental mRNA crap...
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Post by guest8 on Jul 13, 2021 23:10:57 GMT -5
In N.Z. at present, they have a covid vaccinating schedule where: There are clearly 4 groups in order of receiving the Dept of Health vaccine Group 1. Border and MIQ workers & their families. Group 2. I understand these 2 groups are underway. Group 3. Invitations have started this week and I’m sure Fixit will respect the Dept of Health schedule and wait for the notification to see his Dr. to get vaccinated . Group 4
So no joke.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Jul 13, 2021 23:14:37 GMT -5
Most are vaccinated already. most is not all, have you booted people out yet for not having had the jab? Did you not comprehend that there is no community transmission in NZ. There is no reason to boot anyone from any meeting in NZ because of that. If there was an outbreak, which there has been from time to time, the area concerned goes into lockdown with contact tracing going into action. This usaully only lasts for about a week or so until all contacts are traced. NZ has had a policy of go hard and go fast as soon as there is a whiff of the COVID19. I suspect your comment is more about pathetic point scoring than anything else.
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Post by nathan on Jul 13, 2021 23:14:44 GMT -5
I haven't had the jab myself yet, but I'll be getting it as soon as its available. How about you? Do you care enough about your fellow man to make sure you're as safe as possible from infecting anyone? about 4 months ago situation beyond my control(forced)but at least it was the more natural J&J shot not that experimental mRNA crap... I had to do take the jabs... I saw too many people around me, close by had the Viruses, my boss, my employees, my sister in law and brother in law SICK, many of my customers were hospitalized many almost die and some died from the Corvid-19.
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Post by Pragmatic on Jul 13, 2021 23:17:19 GMT -5
most is not all, have you booted people out yet for not having had the jab? Did you not comprehend that there is no community transmission in NZ. There is no reason to boot anyone from any meeting in NZ because of that. If there was an outbreak, which there has been from time to time, the area concerned goes into lockdown with contact tracing going into action. This usaully only lasts for about a week or so until all contacts are traced. NZ has had a policy of go hard and go fast as soon as there is a whiff of the COVID19. I suspect your comment is more about pathetic point scoring than anything else. That was my point also.
For the record I will be vaccinated by the middle of next week too as part of Group 2
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2021 23:19:47 GMT -5
most is not all, have you booted people out yet for not having had the jab? Did you not comprehend that there is no community transmission in NZ. There is no reason to boot anyone from any meeting in NZ because of that. If there was an outbreak, which there has been from time to time, the area concerned goes into lockdown with contact tracing going into action. This usaully only lasts for about a week or so until all contacts are traced. NZ has had a policy of go hard and go fast as soon as there is a whiff of the COVID19. I suspect your comment is more about pathetic point scoring than anything else. Did you not comprehend fixit called for workers to be booted if no jab and those that go to meetings to be booted for no jab...its not rocket science...
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Post by nathan on Jul 13, 2021 23:21:12 GMT -5
Did you not comprehend that there is no community transmission in NZ. There is no reason to boot anyone from any meeting in NZ because of that. If there was an outbreak, which there has been from time to time, the area concerned goes into lockdown with contact tracing going into action. This usaully only lasts for about a week or so until all contacts are traced. NZ has had a policy of go hard and go fast as soon as there is a whiff of the COVID19. I suspect your comment is more about pathetic point scoring than anything else. That was my point also.
For the record I will be vaccinated by the middle of next week too as part of Group 2
The Delta Virus is coming for you guys and gals from down under... YOU better do it if you don't then you people can't preach or tell others to take the jabs! I will come back and check on You 2x2s unvaccinated people are very dangerous to society, you know.
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Post by guest8 on Jul 13, 2021 23:25:43 GMT -5
Go and get some fresh air. Theres such a thing as respecting the government and the Dept of Health schedule.
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Post by nathan on Jul 13, 2021 23:30:08 GMT -5
Go and get some fresh air. Theres such a thing as respecting the government and the Dept of healths schedule. You better tell them to HURRY up! or many of you are going to DIE once the Delta Virus get in your little country! We have millions of shots are available here in USA, hope they will send some to you folks over there. Don't get the China Vaccine, OK. they will take over your country once you accept their bad Vaccines which don't work.
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Post by Pragmatic on Jul 13, 2021 23:31:25 GMT -5
That was my point also.
For the record I will be vaccinated by the middle of next week too as part of Group 2
The Delta Virus is coming for you guys and gals from down under... YOU better do it if you don't then you people can't preach or tell others to take the jabs! I will come back and check on You 2x2s unvaccinated people are very dangerous to society, you know.
The efficacy of the Pfizer with the Delta and Lambda variants does not seem to be any less than with the Alpha. Our Health Ministry has the option of giving a third booster if it is deemed necessary. So I suggest that you give up on your wishful thinking, because we are we be fine. We have good governance, and reasonable people who understand the science.
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Post by nathan on Jul 13, 2021 23:34:09 GMT -5
The Delta Virus is coming for you guys and gals from down under... YOU better do it if you don't then you people can't preach or tell others to take the jabs! I will come back and check on You 2x2s unvaccinated people are very dangerous to society, you know.
The efficacy of the Pfizer with the Delta and Lambda variants does not seem to be any less than with the Alpha. Our Health Ministry has the option of giving a third booster if required. Faucci is NOT 100% for the 3rd dose, yet... but he might change his mind once the spreads of Delta, UK, Africa and South America are surging in many states of USA already.
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Post by Dan on Jul 13, 2021 23:34:51 GMT -5
most is not all, have you booted people out yet for not having had the jab? I haven't had the jab myself yet, but I'll be getting it as soon as its available. How about you? Do you care enough about your fellow man to make sure you're as safe as possible from infecting anyone?
I haven't got the shot... Probably won't because I'm relatively sure I've already had the virus and have natural immunity. I have gotten 30 capsules of hydroxychloroquine, and 30 azithromycin just in case. You can order it online without a prescription. The azithromycin ain't cheap, but it won't go to waste because its great for chlamydia too
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Post by nathan on Jul 13, 2021 23:39:04 GMT -5
I haven't had the jab myself yet, but I'll be getting it as soon as its available. How about you? Do you care enough about your fellow man to make sure you're as safe as possible from infecting anyone?
I haven't got the shot... Probably won't because I'm relatively sure I've already had the virus and have natural immunity. I have gotten 30 capsules of hydroxychloroquine, and 30 azithromycin just in case. You can order it online without a prescription. The azithromycin ain't cheap, but it won't go to waste because its great for chlamydia too
It depends what kind of the Virus you had in your body... according to India News There are over 20,000 Corvid viruses out there and they keep on multiplying fast and stronger every day, some are not so deadly but many are very deadly like Delta/India and UK ... So, be very careful my friend.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2021 23:51:56 GMT -5
I haven't had the jab myself yet, but I'll be getting it as soon as its available. How about you? Do you care enough about your fellow man to make sure you're as safe as possible from infecting anyone?
I haven't got the shot... Probably won't because I'm relatively sure I've already had the virus and have natural immunity. I have gotten 30 capsules of hydroxychloroquine, and 30 azithromycin just in case. You can order it online without a prescription. The azithromycin ain't cheap, but it won't go to waste because its great for chlamydia too
LOL too much information at the end....
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Jul 14, 2021 0:37:32 GMT -5
about 4 months ago situation beyond my control(forced)but at least it was the more natural J&J shot not that experimental mRNA crap... I had to do take the jabs... I saw too many people around me, close by had the Viruses, my boss, my employees, my sister in law and brother in law SICK, many of my customers were hospitalized many almost die and some died from the Corvid-19.Yoy still have a massive problem in the USA with COVID19 because of the puss poor political leadership at the start of the pandemic. Add that to the juvenile attitude of the rabid religious right and there is a recipe for a massive disaster. All your gods work of course.
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