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Post by verna on Jul 22, 2021 9:37:32 GMT -5
You need professional help with your venus and stranges thinking, Nate. Time will tell who is Right, the Unbelievers or the Believers. You know the end result for the unbelievers. Read Rev. 21:7-8 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son. But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and ladymongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.I see “the fearful” comes first. Why then stoke fear. You deliberately trying to send us all to the lake of fire.
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Post by nathan02 on Jul 22, 2021 10:15:20 GMT -5
Time will tell who is Right, the Unbelievers or the Believers. You know the end result for the unbelievers. Read Rev. 21:7-8 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son. But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and ladymongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. I see “the fearful” comes first. Why then stoke fear. You deliberately trying to send us all to the lake of fire. ** No, I am warning people like the Rich man in Luke 16 NOT to end up in Hades after death then cast into the Lake of fire= Eternal separation from God and everything to do with light. People go there by their own choosing when they reject Jesus Christ as their Savior. God wants people to be in heaven, where he has prepared NEW earth and heaven for them to live forever without fear of death, cancer, or getting any Corvid-19 Virus. People don't believe and Christ and he died for their sins 2000 yrs ago on Calvary. All they have to do is to believe and accept the gift of eternal life. Don't be fearful!
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Post by Annan on Jul 22, 2021 10:59:58 GMT -5
Correct me if I'm wrong, (I'm sure you will.) but wasn't the bible written by Hebrews? Where does it say you have to be Hebrews to understand the Bible? Most of the audience hearing the gospel be Gentiles, how you do expect them to understand the Bible? You NEED the HOLY Spirit to understand the words of God NOT to have a Hebrews mind. Most of the Hebrews are outside the will of God for the last 2000 years! because they don't accept Jesus as their Savior.
The Holy Spirit is given to them that obey God, and Christ's teaching. Acts 5:32-35 God exalted Him to His right hand as Prince and Savior, in order to grant repentance and forgiveness of sins to Israel. We are witnesses of these things, and so is the Holy Spirit, whom God has given to those who obey Him.” When the Council members heard this, they were enraged, and they resolved to put the apostles to death.… I didn't say anything about having to be Hebrew or not to understand your book of myth. I said it was written by Hebrews. Are you that dumb or you just can't absorb what you read?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2021 12:39:22 GMT -5
Time will tell who is Right, the Unbelievers or the Believers. You know the end result for the unbelievers. Read Rev. 21:7-8 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son. But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and ladymongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. I see “the fearful” comes first. Why then stoke fear. You deliberately trying to send us all to the lake of fire. "fearful" in this case probably means those who worry more about what other people think if we preach or live the gospel than what God thinks.
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Post by nathan02 on Jul 22, 2021 13:10:37 GMT -5
Where does it say you have to be Hebrews to understand the Bible? Most of the audience hearing the gospel be Gentiles, how you do expect them to understand the Bible? You NEED the HOLY Spirit to understand the words of God NOT to have a Hebrews mind. Most of the Hebrews are outside the will of God for the last 2000 years! because they don't accept Jesus as their Savior.
The Holy Spirit is given to them that obey God, and Christ's teaching. Acts 5:32-35 God exalted Him to His right hand as Prince and Savior, in order to grant repentance and forgiveness of sins to Israel. We are witnesses of these things, and so is the Holy Spirit, whom God has given to those who obey Him.” When the Council members heard this, they were enraged, and they resolved to put the apostles to death.… I didn't say anything about having to be Hebrew or not to understand your book of myth. I said it was written by Hebrews. Are you that dumb or you just can't absorb what you read? ** I was thinking of your mate, Chuck he is from down under but he has a Hebrew mind so, he can understand the Bible better than us Gentiles believers.
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Post by intelchips on Jul 22, 2021 13:56:54 GMT -5
I didn't say anything about having to be Hebrew or not to understand your book of myth. I said it was written by Hebrews. Are you that dumb or you just can't absorb what you read? ** I was thinking of your mate, Chuck he is from down under but he has a Hebrew mind so, he can understand the Bible better than us Gentiles believers. Seeing how your understanding is much greater than the rest of us please explain why Paul says: "Jesus was born of a woman'? Really aren't we all? What were the alternatives? I guess he could have been born of a sow or transported from heaven as a full grown adult.
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Post by nathan02 on Jul 22, 2021 14:17:48 GMT -5
Seeing how your understanding is much greater than the rest of us please explain why Paul says: "Jesus was born of a woman'? Really aren't we all? What were the alternatives? I guess he could have been born of a sow or transported from heaven as a full grown adult. ** Jesus had to be born of a woman so, the Christ/God inherited human DNA when he was born in the person Jesus so he could take our place as a human mortal being to DIE the second death= Lake of fire or eternal separation from God's presence forever in our place on Calvary. Jesus uttered these words My God, my God why has thou forsaken me? Adam, Eve and all of humans children died as mortal beings; To set them and us FREE from Satan's prison in Hades/inner earth for believers and unbelievers souls were kept, until Jesus had paid the ransom priced on Calvary. Jesus had to DIE as a mortal human being to set us FREE from Hades.Christ/God is Spirit, He Can't die so he can't redeem us mortal humans. Christ had to become a mortal human being Jesus through DNA of a woman to die for the mortals human beings.
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Post by intelchips on Jul 22, 2021 14:52:57 GMT -5
** Jesus had to be born of a woman so, the Christ/God inherited human DNA when he was born in the person Jesus so he could take our place as a human mortal being to DIE the second death= Lake of fire or eternal separation from God's presence forever in our place on Calvary. Jesus uttered these words My God, my God why has thou forsaken me? Adam, Eve and all of humans children died as mortal beings; To set them and us FREE from Satan's prison in Hades/inner earth for believers and unbelievers souls were kept, until Jesus had paid the ransom priced on Calvary. Jesus had to DIE as a mortal human being to set us FREE from Hades.Christ/God is Spirit, He Can't die so he can't redeem us mortal humans. Christ had to become a mortal human being Jesus through DNA of a woman to die for the mortals human beings. I ask you a question seeking logic and you give me dogma.
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Post by nathan02 on Jul 22, 2021 15:50:22 GMT -5
I ask you a question seeking logic and you give me dogma. ** Dogma is the only logic we are able to understand the question that you ask.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Jul 22, 2021 16:35:12 GMT -5
haha.... There was NO apple tree in the Garden of Eden, Chuck... Your Hebrewic mind is messing up your brain. You need professional help with your Hebrew thinking, mate. Correct me if I'm wrong, (I'm sure you will.) but wasn't the bible written by Hebrews? Nope, it was given to them by an early vist from Vladimir Thor from Venus. This was in the early days of steam powered space ships.
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Post by speak on Jul 22, 2021 17:06:48 GMT -5
I have to laugh when I see that Nathan accuses people of lying. Merely because they dissagree with him. Perhaps we should start a new page noting Nathan's lies. And the lies of others he repeats on here. Lies that Nathan tell repeatedly on here are associated with the names of: Harley Byrd Frank Stranges Phil Schneider Feel free to add to the list or we may start a new page just for Nathan's lies. How about a page for questions Nathan refuses to answer? Two pages
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Post by speak on Jul 22, 2021 17:09:21 GMT -5
You need professional help with your venus and stranges thinking, Nate. Time will tell who is Right, the Unbelievers or the Believers. You know the end result for the unbelievers. Read Rev. 21:7-8 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son. But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and ladymongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.Time has been called over and over on this board, not to name anyone but it has not happened.
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Post by verna on Jul 22, 2021 18:53:31 GMT -5
I see “the fearful” comes first. Why then stoke fear. You deliberately trying to send us all to the lake of fire. ** No, I am warning people like the Rich man in Luke 16 NOT to end up in Hades after death then cast into the Lake of fire= Eternal separation from God and everything to do with light. People go there by their own choosing when they reject Jesus Christ as their Savior. God wants people to be in heaven, where he has prepared NEW earth and heaven for them to live forever without fear of death, cancer, or getting any Corvid-19 Virus. People don't believe and Christ and he died for their sins 2000 yrs ago on Calvary. All they have to do is to believe and accept the gift of eternal life. Don't be fearful! Ok I won’t worry. I’ll be happy.
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Post by verna on Jul 22, 2021 18:54:42 GMT -5
I see “the fearful” comes first. Why then stoke fear. You deliberately trying to send us all to the lake of fire. "fearful" in this case probably means those who worry more about what other people think if we preach or live the gospel than what God thinks. Right up there with murdering hey?
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Post by nathan02 on Jul 22, 2021 19:12:00 GMT -5
** No, I am warning people like the Rich man in Luke 16 NOT to end up in Hades after death then cast into the Lake of fire= Eternal separation from God and everything to do with light. People go there by their own choosing when they reject Jesus Christ as their Savior. God wants people to be in heaven, where he has prepared NEW earth and heaven for them to live forever without fear of death, cancer, or getting any Corvid-19 Virus. People don't believe and Christ and he died for their sins 2000 yrs ago on Calvary. All they have to do is to believe and accept the gift of eternal life. Don't be fearful! Ok I won’t worry. I’ll be happy. ** Don't worry be HAPPY! When you put your Faith and Trust in God and Christ. Perfect LOVE cast out Fear.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2021 22:23:56 GMT -5
Has anyone heard any actual news about the COVID outbreak after Ronan? Are conventions still proceeding? Is there a request to not attend unless you've been vaccinated? Or is it "don't report it, just hush"? At this point, people deserve what they get if they choose to act foolishly (that goes across the board, not just conventions / 2x2s. Nothing more special about them than anyone else).
The insistence on secrecy and sweeping any bad news, juvenile though it be, has caused bloody enough damage in general. At the same time, over-exaggeration of a convention outbreak isn't useful either.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2021 23:08:41 GMT -5
Has anyone heard any actual news about the COVID outbreak after Ronan? Are conventions still proceeding? Is there a request to not attend unless you've been vaccinated? Or is it "don't report it, just hush"? At this point, people deserve what they get if they choose to act foolishly (that goes across the board, not just conventions / 2x2s. Nothing more special about them than anyone else). The insistence on secrecy and sweeping any bad news, juvenile though it be, has caused bloody enough damage in general. At the same time, over-exaggeration of a convention outbreak isn't useful either. meetings will be opening up again this weekend after a small shutdown...i'll ask my aunt tomorrow if there is any more news...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2021 1:11:04 GMT -5
Has anyone heard any actual news about the COVID outbreak after Ronan? Are conventions still proceeding? Is there a request to not attend unless you've been vaccinated? Or is it "don't report it, just hush"? At this point, people deserve what they get if they choose to act foolishly (that goes across the board, not just conventions / 2x2s. Nothing more special about them than anyone else). The insistence on secrecy and sweeping any bad news, juvenile though it be, has caused bloody enough damage in general. At the same time, over-exaggeration of a convention outbreak isn't useful either. meetings will be opening up again this weekend after a small shutdown...i'll ask my aunt tomorrow if there is any more news... thanks much
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2021 19:23:24 GMT -5
meetings will be opening up again this weekend after a small shutdown...i'll ask my aunt tomorrow if there is any more news... thanks much okay talked to her just now... not much new though... she keeps saying "about 100" got the virus it didn't spread beyond that... no one died, but her elder almost died(it was close)... some were vaccinated that got it anyway.... meetings restarted LAST sunday for NW montana(my mistake i thought she told me that they would restart THIS sunday)... they do not have to wear masks if they don't want to nor is vaccination required... they started showing signs of the virus within a day or two of convention ending... it was about a 5 week ordeal...
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Post by BobWilliston on Jul 23, 2021 23:46:46 GMT -5
haha.... There was NO apple tree in the Garden of Eden, Chuck... Your Hebrewic mind is messing up your brain. You need professional help with your Hebrew thinking, mate. Correct me if I'm wrong, (I'm sure you will.) but wasn't the bible written by Hebrews? Not all of it. The NT was primarily written in Greek.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2021 23:53:09 GMT -5
Correct me if I'm wrong, (I'm sure you will.) but wasn't the bible written by Hebrews? Not all of it. The NT was primarily written in Greek. correct... the OT was mainly written in hebrew. daniel and ezra in the OT were partially written in aramaic if not all aramaic. the NT was mainly written in greek, matthew may have been written in hebrew but was shortly translated to the greek. there are roughly 10 or so NT verses that have aramaic in them.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Jul 24, 2021 4:12:13 GMT -5
I read today that there were riots in Melbourne protesting the lockdown. An interesting comment I read in the article was this. "You are either on the side of the virus or on the side of humanity" To me it seems that the rioters chose the virus. The good news is that it could be a super spreader event and lots of them die, which will improve the average IQ of Melbourne. Maybe Shushy was there, waddling along.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2021 15:22:41 GMT -5
okay talked to her just now... not much new though... she keeps saying "about 100" got the virus it didn't spread beyond that... no one died, but her elder almost died(it was close)... some were vaccinated that got it anyway.... meetings restarted LAST sunday for NW montana(my mistake i thought she told me that they would restart THIS sunday)... they do not have to wear masks if they don't want to nor is vaccination required... they started showing signs of the virus within a day or two of convention ending... it was about a 5 week ordeal... thanks for the update. Let's hope wisdom prevails.
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Post by openingact34 on Jul 24, 2021 20:33:20 GMT -5
okay talked to her just now... not much new though... she keeps saying "about 100" got the virus it didn't spread beyond that... no one died, but her elder almost died(it was close)... some were vaccinated that got it anyway.... meetings restarted LAST sunday for NW montana(my mistake i thought she told me that they would restart THIS sunday)... they do not have to wear masks if they don't want to nor is vaccination required... they started showing signs of the virus within a day or two of convention ending... it was about a 5 week ordeal... So they didn't learn anything...I can't say I'm surprised. I've been to Montana and met some of the Friends and Workers there. It was eye-opening to say the least. Hope all goes well as they gather back together as unmasked, unvaccinated groups in small rooms where they sing hymns together.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Jul 24, 2021 20:58:58 GMT -5
okay talked to her just now... not much new though... she keeps saying "about 100" got the virus it didn't spread beyond that... no one died, but her elder almost died(it was close)... some were vaccinated that got it anyway.... meetings restarted LAST sunday for NW montana(my mistake i thought she told me that they would restart THIS sunday)... they do not have to wear masks if they don't want to nor is vaccination required... they started showing signs of the virus within a day or two of convention ending... it was about a 5 week ordeal... So they didn't learn anything...I can't say I'm surprised. I've been to Montana and met some of the Friends and Workers there. It was eye-opening to say the least. Hope all goes well as they gather back together as unmasked, unvaccinated groups in small rooms where they sing hymns together. Isn't it wonderful to have the freedom to infect!
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Post by magpies39plus on Jul 24, 2021 21:05:18 GMT -5
Hi Curly,You ort to see Nathan's replies to real scripture,EG 1 Corinthiasns ch 12. Haven't I copped over sujesting this subject. It is supported Ephesians 4 v 11/12. And that one really sends him off!! Magpie
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2021 1:31:29 GMT -5
So they didn't learn anything...I can't say I'm surprised. I've been to Montana and met some of the Friends and Workers there. It was eye-opening to say the least. Hope all goes well as they gather back together as unmasked, unvaccinated groups in small rooms where they sing hymns together. Isn't it wonderful to have the freedom to infect! FreeDumb - we got it aplenty here!
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Post by BobWilliston on Jul 25, 2021 20:19:51 GMT -5
Indeed we do. My son in law and my 8 year old granddaughter became infected with the virus this past week. My son in law is fully vaccinated, so we aren't so much worried for him. But my granddaughter isn't old enough to have been vaccinated -- and deaths among children are rising, especially with the emergence of the Delta variety.
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