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Post by chuck on Jul 8, 2021 0:42:17 GMT -5
I am amazed at how many verses I am finding that seem to never apply to me as I am in "the truth"..... It now hurts to admit they did.... “All this I have told you so that you will not fall away.2 They will put you out of the synagogue; in fact, the time is coming when anyone who kills you will think they are offering a service to God.3 They will do such things because they have not known the Father or me. - John 16:1-3 www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John16:1-3&version=NIV
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Post by verna on Jul 8, 2021 11:07:26 GMT -5
I am amazed at how many verses I am finding that seem to never apply to me as I am in "the truth"..... It now hurts to admit they did.... “All this I have told you so that you will not fall away.2 They will put you out of the synagogue; in fact, the time is coming when anyone who kills you will think they are offering a service to God.3 They will do such things because they have not known the Father or me. - John 16:1-3 www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John16:1-3&version=NIVTrying to understand Chuck. Are you now seeing yourself as the one who puts out/kills - the persecutor? My thinking is that the 2x2s would be inclined to see themselves as the persecuted, not the persecutor.
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Post by intelchips on Jul 8, 2021 11:54:37 GMT -5
I am amazed at how many verses I am finding that seem to never apply to me as I am in "the truth"..... It now hurts to admit they did.... “All this I have told you so that you will not fall away.2 They will put you out of the synagogue; in fact, the time is coming when anyone who kills you will think they are offering a service to God.3 They will do such things because they have not known the Father or me. - John 16:1-3 www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John16:1-3&version=NIVTrying to understand Chuck. Are you now seeing yourself as the one who puts out/kills - the persecutor? My thinking is that the 2x2s would be inclined to see themselves as the persecuted, not the persecutor. No I think Chuck is confused by young earthers when he hears about 51,000-Year-Old Engraved Bone is Neanderthal Artwork
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Post by mountain on Jul 8, 2021 14:56:47 GMT -5
I am amazed at how many verses I am finding that seem to never apply to me as I am in "the truth"..... It now hurts to admit they did.... “All this I have told you so that you will not fall away.2 They will put you out of the synagogue; in fact, the time is coming when anyone who kills you will think they are offering a service to God.3 They will do such things because they have not known the Father or me. - John 16:1-3 www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John16:1-3&version=NIVTrying to understand Chuck. Are you now seeing yourself as the one who puts out/kills - the persecutor? My thinking is that the 2x2s would be inclined to see themselves as the persecuted, not the persecutor. Clarification required Chuck. What are you getting at?
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Post by chuck on Jul 8, 2021 20:27:02 GMT -5
I am amazed at how many verses I am finding that seem to never apply to me as I am in "the truth"..... It now hurts to admit they did.... “All this I have told you so that you will not fall away.2 They will put you out of the synagogue; in fact, the time is coming when anyone who kills you will think they are offering a service to God.3 They will do such things because they have not known the Father or me. - John 16:1-3 www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John16:1-3&version=NIVTrying to understand Chuck. Are you now seeing yourself as the one who puts out/kills - the persecutor? My thinking is that the 2x2s would be inclined to see themselves as the persecuted, not the persecutor. As a fully paid up member 5 year's ago I thought that verse didn't apply to 2x2's(me) as we are the truth so 2x2's would never be the persecutor but always the persucuted. Well it turns out back then I actually was the perscutor, and today when I confront the judgemental persecution dished out by 2x2's im the persecuted, If they knew my name I would be spiritually stoned by months end gauranteed......and kicked out...... The amount of verses that never applied to me when I was indoctrinated with 2x2ism is growing.....I think 2x2ism is the direct opposite of what it claims.....the 2x2s are just victims.....
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Post by chuck on Jul 8, 2021 20:28:55 GMT -5
Trying to understand Chuck. Are you now seeing yourself as the one who puts out/kills - the persecutor? My thinking is that the 2x2s would be inclined to see themselves as the persecuted, not the persecutor. No I think Chuck is confused by young earthers when he hears about 51,000-Year-Old Engraved Bone is Neanderthal Artwork I'm trying to work out if your being sarcastic or not?. Sorry but it's gone over my head...😁
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Post by intelchips on Jul 8, 2021 21:01:56 GMT -5
No I think Chuck is confused by young earthers when he hears about 51,000-Year-Old Engraved Bone is Neanderthal Artwork I'm trying to work out if your being sarcastic or not?. Sorry but it's gone over my head...😁 if one excepts a young Earth then how do we explain 51,000-Year-Old Engraved Bones? I was saying the young ... Oh never mind I have no idea what I'm trying to say.
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Post by chuck on Jul 8, 2021 21:08:01 GMT -5
I'm trying to work out if your being sarcastic or not?. Sorry but it's gone over my head...😁 if one excepts a young Earth then how do we explain 51,000-Year-Old Engraved Bones? I was saying the young ... Oh never mind I have no idea what I'm trying to say. I don't accept a young earth.....
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Post by verna on Jul 8, 2021 21:21:57 GMT -5
Trying to understand Chuck. Are you now seeing yourself as the one who puts out/kills - the persecutor? My thinking is that the 2x2s would be inclined to see themselves as the persecuted, not the persecutor. As a fully paid up member 5 year's ago I thought that verse didn't apply to 2x2's(me) as we are the truth so 2x2's would never be the persecutor but always the persucuted. Well it turns out back then I actually was the perscutor, and today when I confront the judgemental persecution dished out by 2x2's im the persecuted, If they knew my name I would be spiritually stoned by months end gauranteed......and kicked out...... The amount of verses that never applied to me when I was indoctrinated with 2x2ism is growing.....I think 2x2ism is the direct opposite of what it claims.....the 2x2s are just victims..... I thought that’s what you meant. Look forward to hearing more.and at one point do people become complicit.
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Post by matisse on Jul 9, 2021 1:34:23 GMT -5
I'm trying to work out if your being sarcastic or not?. Sorry but it's gone over my head...😁 if one excepts a young Earth then how do we explain 51,000-Year-Old Engraved Bones? I was saying the young ... Oh never mind I have no idea what I'm trying to say. The wallys of the world doubt the dating methods. In their world, the age of your 51,000 year-old engraved bones is too high by upwards of 50,000 years.
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Post by Annan on Jul 9, 2021 6:53:05 GMT -5
...If they knew my name I would be spiritually stoned by months end gauranteed......and kicked out...... No worries, Chuck. Nate and his mentor will be glad to stone you.
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Post by chuck on Jul 9, 2021 9:17:07 GMT -5
...If they knew my name I would be spiritually stoned by months end gauranteed......and kicked out...... No worries, Chuck. Nate and his mentor will be glad to stone you. The only reason their stones miss is because im anonymous.......there's brown nosing spies everywhere if these guys cant pull of the job.....
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Post by openingact34 on Jul 9, 2021 15:54:49 GMT -5
No worries, Chuck. Nate and his mentor will be glad to stone you. The only reason their stones miss is because im anonymous.......there's brown nosing spies everywhere if these guys cant pull of the job..... Doesn't your worldliness and testimonies give up the secret that you don't belong? If you are not sharing the things that the workers consider edifying, people will notice.
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Post by chuck on Jul 9, 2021 18:36:44 GMT -5
The only reason their stones miss is because im anonymous.......there's brown nosing spies everywhere if these guys cant pull of the job..... Doesn't your worldliness and testimonies give up the secret that you don't belong? If you are not sharing the things that the workers consider edifying, people will notice. It's hard to argue against being nice. I know the things I say ruffle feathers but it's only the legalism and exclusivism they can actually take offence at. They will have to stoop to kick me out for being nice as I will not give them any other reason......
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Post by chuck on Jul 9, 2021 23:49:51 GMT -5
As a fully paid up member 5 year's ago I thought that verse didn't apply to 2x2's(me) as we are the truth so 2x2's would never be the persecutor but always the persucuted. Well it turns out back then I actually was the perscutor, and today when I confront the judgemental persecution dished out by 2x2's im the persecuted, If they knew my name I would be spiritually stoned by months end gauranteed......and kicked out...... The amount of verses that never applied to me when I was indoctrinated with 2x2ism is growing.....I think 2x2ism is the direct opposite of what it claims.....the 2x2s are just victims..... I thought that’s what you meant. Look forward to hearing more.and at one point do people become complicit. They become complicit when they deem someone's not worthy of life because xyz. Of course they are oblivious to it as their mind has been screwed with, most of them from the womb. Other's because their mind was vulnerable. Here's another that never applies to 2x2's and proclaimed "Christians". Then Jesus went through the towns and villages, teaching as he made his way to Jerusalem.Someone asked him, “Lord, are only a few people going to be saved?” He said to them,24 “Make every effort to enter through the narrow door, because many, I tell you, will try to enter and will not be able to.25 Once the owner of the house gets up and closes the door, you will stand outside knocking and pleading, ‘Sir, open the door for us.’ “But he will answer, ‘I don’t know you or where you come from.’26 “Then you will say, ‘We ate and drank with you, and you taught in our streets.’27 “But he will reply, ‘I don’t know you or where you come from. Away from me, all you evildoers!’28 “There will be weeping there, and gnashing of teeth, when you see Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and all the prophets in the kingdom of God, but you yourselves thrown out.29 People will come from east and west and north and south, and will take their places at the feast in the kingdom of God.30 Indeed there are those who are last who will be first, and first who will be last.” - Luke 13:22-30 www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke13:22-30&version=NIV
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Post by rob on Jul 10, 2021 2:59:54 GMT -5
The only reason their stones miss is because im anonymous.......there's brown nosing spies everywhere if these guys cant pull of the job..... Doesn't your worldliness and testimonies give up the secret that you don't belong? If you are not sharing the things that the workers consider edifying, people will notice. That would depend on your interpretation of the word”worldliness”, hardly any of the fully indoctrinated 2x2’s know what it means. Some of the most “Worldly” individuals I know are staunch 2x2 members.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2021 14:16:36 GMT -5
The only reason their stones miss is because im anonymous.......there's brown nosing spies everywhere if these guys cant pull of the job..... Doesn't your worldliness and testimonies give up the secret that you don't belong? If you are not sharing the things that the workers consider edifying, people will notice. You could always tell a worldly testimony at convention! They usually sounded less somber and would use worldly words/phrases like "Christians", "Church", "Gift of Salvation" and "Praise the Lord". Also, they'd often leave out the part about what a failure they'd been the past year, and how they just want to do better in coming days. Dead giveaway!
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Post by learning on Jul 13, 2021 9:56:38 GMT -5
Trying to understand Chuck. Are you now seeing yourself as the one who puts out/kills - the persecutor? My thinking is that the 2x2s would be inclined to see themselves as the persecuted, not the persecutor. As a fully paid up member 5 year's ago I thought that verse didn't apply to 2x2's(me) as we are the truth so 2x2's would never be the persecutor but always the persucuted. Well it turns out back then I actually was the perscutor, and today when I confront the judgemental persecution dished out by 2x2's im the persecuted, If they knew my name I would be spiritually stoned by months end gauranteed......and kicked out...... The amount of verses that never applied to me when I was indoctrinated with 2x2ism is growing.....I think 2x2ism is the direct opposite of what it claims.....the 2x2s are just victims..... I had an email notification about an updated thread which drew me to TMB in the first time in ... well over a year, I think? Chuck, this is thought provoking. When someone questions / leaves 2x2 to this day, there is incredulity (gasp! indignation!) at the thought that their faith will prosper elsewhere. The ones who leave are dismissed out of hand as having fulfilling scripture as to the end times when the love of many will wax cold. I've never thought of them as being the target of Jesus's words about casting out Christians, but you may be on to something there. There is the matter of the person having first left of the own free will, but the metaphor does kind of hold up just the same when you look at how the remaining 2x2 think of those who have left.
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Post by janj on Jul 24, 2021 15:40:17 GMT -5
I am amazed at how many verses I am finding that seem to never apply to me as I am in "the truth"..... It now hurts to admit they did.... “All this I have told you so that you will not fall away.2 They will put you out of the synagogue; in fact, the time is coming when anyone who kills you will think they are offering a service to God.3 They will do such things because they have not known the Father or me. - John 16:1-3 www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John16:1-3&version=NIVMaybe I have missed something but why are you still there?? If thats the way you feel just get out.
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Post by Grant on Jul 24, 2021 16:11:22 GMT -5
I am amazed at how many verses I am finding that seem to never apply to me as I am in "the truth"..... It now hurts to admit they did.... “All this I have told you so that you will not fall away.2 They will put you out of the synagogue; in fact, the time is coming when anyone who kills you will think they are offering a service to God.3 They will do such things because they have not known the Father or me. - John 16:1-3 www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John16:1-3&version=NIVMaybe I have missed something but why are you still there?? If thats the way you feel just get out. Would you say the same to Nathan and his degrading the workers?
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Post by nathan02 on Jul 24, 2021 16:29:47 GMT -5
Maybe I have missed something but why are you still there?? If thats the way you feel just get out. Would you say the same to Nathan and his degrading the workers? ** Tell me, how I degrade the workers. Please, don't tell too many lies, your nose is growing longer. I find there two things the current workers need to change #1 The Trinity is NOT the devils doctrine because the early days workers and friends believed and taught it and they believe Jesus is God the Christ for years! Number 2, they need to have no tolerance policy on CSA within the ministry and fellowship! So, tell me how do I degrade the workers again?
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Post by guest8 on Jul 24, 2021 17:17:41 GMT -5
Oh so now you are using adult dignified words for the first time in your language re ‘ what workers should be doing’. Talk about slippery as a snake.
From as long as I can remember, you have denigrated workers in your posts, as how they teach a false gospel and what should happen to them e.g. in 2 if not more posts, you said or implied they should be hung.
AND: Your regular denigrating name-calling reference to people who don't believe and confront you re: Jesus lives inside Venus, your Frank Stranges stories, your scrolls, etc includes WORKERS and friends.
I have never heard of a worker or friend who believes such tripe.
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Post by nathan02 on Jul 24, 2021 17:22:36 GMT -5
Oh so now you are using adult dignified words for the first time in your language re workers should be doing. Talk about slippery as a snake. From as long as I can remember, you have denigrated workers in your posts, as how they teach a false gospel and what should happen to them e.g. in 2 if not more posts you said or implied they should be hung. AND: Your regular name-calling reference to people who don't believe and confront you re: Jesus lives inside Venus, your Frank Stranges stories, your scrolls, etc includes WORKERS and friends. I have never heard of a worker or friend who believes such tripe. ** It is what it is.. The truth hurts and I pray that the current workers and friends to change the 2 errors I mention in my post If they want the gospel and 2x2 fellowship to grow and prosper like in the early days.
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Post by guest8 on Jul 24, 2021 17:27:25 GMT -5
Oh so now you are using adult dignified words for the first time in your language re workers should be doing. Talk about slippery as a snake. From as long as I can remember, you have denigrated workers in your posts, as how they teach a false gospel and what should happen to them e.g. in 2 if not more posts you said or implied they should be hung. AND: Your regular name-calling reference to people who don't believe and confront you re: Jesus lives inside Venus, your Frank Stranges stories, your scrolls, etc includes WORKERS and friends. I have never heard of a worker or friend who believes such tripe. ** It is what it is.. The truth hurts and I pray that the current workers and friends to change the 2 errors I mention in my post If they want the gospel and 2x2 fellowship to grow and prosper like in the early days. Oh I see you are still using sweet little words now, Got you a bit worried did I? And so you should be.
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Post by chuck on Jul 24, 2021 17:27:32 GMT -5
I am amazed at how many verses I am finding that seem to never apply to me as I am in "the truth"..... It now hurts to admit they did.... “All this I have told you so that you will not fall away.2 They will put you out of the synagogue; in fact, the time is coming when anyone who kills you will think they are offering a service to God.3 They will do such things because they have not known the Father or me. - John 16:1-3 www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John16:1-3&version=NIVMaybe I have missed something but why are you still there?? If thats the way you feel just get out. Why do you think it's that easy?.
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Post by verna on Jul 24, 2021 17:28:35 GMT -5
Oh so now you are using adult dignified words for the first time in your language re workers should be doing. Talk about slippery as a snake. From as long as I can remember, you have denigrated workers in your posts, as how they teach a false gospel and what should happen to them e.g. in 2 if not more posts you said or implied they should be hung. AND: Your regular name-calling reference to people who don't believe and confront you re: Jesus lives inside Venus, your Frank Stranges stories, your scrolls, etc includes WORKERS and friends. I have never heard of a worker or friend who believes such tripe. ** It is what it is.. The truth hurts and I pray that the current workers and friends to change the 2 errors I mention in my post If they want the gospel and 2x2 fellowship to grow and prosper like in the early days. Sounds like you’re on your own then.
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Post by nathan02 on Jul 24, 2021 17:48:09 GMT -5
** It is what it is.. The truth hurts and I pray that the current workers and friends to change the 2 errors I mention in my post If they want the gospel and 2x2 fellowship to grow and prosper like in the early days. Oh I see you still using sweet little words now, Got you a bit worried did I? And so you should be. Me, worry! Nay. You should know me by now.. I speak the TRUTH as I see and KNOW. I don't SWAY by the direction of the wind, mate.
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Post by nathan02 on Jul 24, 2021 17:49:58 GMT -5
** It is what it is.. The truth hurts and I pray that the current workers and friends to change the 2 errors I mention in my post If they want the gospel and 2x2 fellowship to grow and prosper like in the early days. Sounds like you’re on your own then. ** I am NOT on my own. God and Christ are on my side.
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