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Post by ForeverFree on Jul 4, 2021 21:18:44 GMT -5
When I first came to this board, a number of years ago, it was a place of comfort and support. People who had lived the 2X2 experience and had left or were thinking of leaving or in the process of leaving, supported each other.
What happened to this board? What happened to the moderators? It's shameful what goes on here now.
This place, which should be a place of support in a time of need, has become a place of intimidation, mockery, rudeness, arrogance, hate and a platform for a political right wing propaganda agenda.
I gained a lot of support from this board when I first left the 2X2s, thanks to the number of exes who were on here at the time.
Today, outspoken professing members on the board, intimidate, bully and discourage anyone who disagrees with their way of thinking.
This is completely unacceptable; shame to those members who think that this is ok, and shame to the moderators who turn a blind eye.
This board has changed and not for the better. It's disgusting what this has become.
I pity anyone new who comes here for support like I did all those years ago.
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Post by rob on Jul 4, 2021 21:43:30 GMT -5
So true, and what you describe makes me reluctant to post much of the time because if you dare express a different understanding it brings the inquisition down on your head from the fully paid up 2x2 members, because they have God in a box, and anyone who doesn’t fit that box it’s ok to denigrate them. That attitude align’s remarkably well with the scriptural description of the Pharisees. See it like me, or your out, that’s about as far from the Devine character as it’s possible to get.
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Post by BobWilliston on Jul 4, 2021 22:04:08 GMT -5
It used to be recognized as a visiting and respectful discussion forum. It's now being treated as a hell fire and brimstone gospel meeting ... by some.
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Post by chuck on Jul 4, 2021 22:37:56 GMT -5
It used to be recognized as a visiting and respectful discussion forum. It's now being treated as a hell fire and brimstone gospel meeting ... by some. "the truth" unmasked.....
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2021 23:03:53 GMT -5
When I first came to this board, a number of years ago, it was a place of comfort and support. People who had lived the 2X2 experience and had left or were thinking of leaving or in the process of leaving, supported each other. What happened to this board? What happened to the moderators? It's shameful what goes on here now. This place, which should be a place of support in a time of need, has become a place of intimidation, mockery, rudeness, arrogance, hate and a platform for a political right wing propaganda agenda. I gained a lot of support from this board when I first left the 2X2s, thanks to the number of exes who were on here at the time. Today, outspoken professing members on the board, intimidate, bully and discourage anyone who disagrees with their way of thinking. This is completely unacceptable; shame to those members who think that this is ok, and shame to the moderators who turn a blind eye. This board has changed and not for the better. It's disgusting what this has become. I pity anyone new who comes here for support like I did all those years ago. there is only the admin and 1 mod now. forums work only one way....you post and you get either negative or positive feedback...anything else is just an echo chamber... right wing propaganda? that is laughable the majority here posting are left wingers... if you think the forum was setup to only have everyone validate your choices in this life you are sadly mistaken... if you are not used to and don't like debates or disagreements then forum life is probably not for you.... there are a few solutions though when a tiff arises...block them, scroll on by, or leave the forum... ex's or those wanting to be ex's can also go here i'm sure its all sugar and spice: questioningfriends.com i also think iylo? has an ex only forum you might check that out and maybe another guy
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Post by openingact34 on Jul 4, 2021 23:19:25 GMT -5
When I first came to this board, a number of years ago, it was a place of comfort and support. People who had lived the 2X2 experience and had left or were thinking of leaving or in the process of leaving, supported each other. What happened to this board? What happened to the moderators? It's shameful what goes on here now. This place, which should be a place of support in a time of need, has become a place of intimidation, mockery, rudeness, arrogance, hate and a platform for a political right wing propaganda agenda. I gained a lot of support from this board when I first left the 2X2s, thanks to the number of exes who were on here at the time. Today, outspoken professing members on the board, intimidate, bully and discourage anyone who disagrees with their way of thinking. This is completely unacceptable; shame to those members who think that this is ok, and shame to the moderators who turn a blind eye. This board has changed and not for the better. It's disgusting what this has become. I pity anyone new who comes here for support like I did all those years ago. You must be confused with some other past message board. The professing people who post here today are quite mild compared to those in the past. Previous posters on this board like GloryInTruth, Bert, and even a worker: review005 were MUCH more harsh and agressive with you apostates.
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Post by dmmichgood on Jul 4, 2021 23:29:26 GMT -5
When I first came to this board, a number of years ago, it was a place of comfort and support. People who had lived the 2X2 experience and had left or were thinking of leaving or in the process of leaving, supported each other. What happened to this board? What happened to the moderators? It's shameful what goes on here now. This place, which should be a place of support in a time of need, has become a place of intimidation, mockery, rudeness, arrogance, hate and a platform for a political right wing propaganda agenda. I gained a lot of support from this board when I first left the 2X2s, thanks to the number of exes who were on here at the time. Today, outspoken professing members on the board, intimidate, bully and discourage anyone who disagrees with their way of thinking. This is completely unacceptable; shame to those members who think that this is ok, and shame to the moderators who turn a blind eye. This board has changed and not for the better. It's disgusting what this has become. I pity anyone new who comes here for support like I did all those years ago. there is only the admin and 1 mod now. forums work only one way....you post and you get either negative or positive feedback...anything else is just an echo chamber... right wing propaganda? that is laughable the majority here posting are left wingers... if you think the forum was setup to only have everyone validate your choices in this life you are sadly mistaken... if you are not used to and don't like debates or disagreements then forum life is probably not for you.... there are a few solutions though when a tiff arises...block them, scroll on by, or leave the forum... ex's or those wanting to be ex's can also go here i'm sure its all sugar and spice: questioningfriends.com i also think iylo? has an ex only forum you might check that out and maybe another guy But in iylo's forum you have to agree with iylo, -otherwise you get kicked out.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2021 23:36:56 GMT -5
there is only the admin and 1 mod now. forums work only one way....you post and you get either negative or positive feedback...anything else is just an echo chamber... right wing propaganda? that is laughable the majority here posting are left wingers... if you think the forum was setup to only have everyone validate your choices in this life you are sadly mistaken... if you are not used to and don't like debates or disagreements then forum life is probably not for you.... there are a few solutions though when a tiff arises...block them, scroll on by, or leave the forum... ex's or those wanting to be ex's can also go here i'm sure its all sugar and spice: questioningfriends.com i also think iylo? has an ex only forum you might check that out and maybe another guy But in iylo's forum you have to agree with iylo, -otherwise you get kicked out.every forum has its drawbacks....
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Post by Dan on Jul 5, 2021 0:32:31 GMT -5
Atheist and Christians, Liberals and Conservatives, Religion and Politics, are by nature divisive subjects. A collection of diverse people who are polar opposites don't mix well, add to that conspiracy theorist and you have a boiling pot. The Truth Message Board has some very radical members with some extreme opinions, so they don't relate well with others.
Its been a little tough at times on a polite sweetheart like myself too.
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Post by CherieKropp on Jul 5, 2021 9:26:30 GMT -5
there is only the admin and 1 mod now. forums work only one way....you post and you get either negative or positive feedback...anything else is just an echo chamber... right wing propaganda? that is laughable the majority here posting are left wingers... if you think the forum was setup to only have everyone validate your choices in this life you are sadly mistaken... if you are not used to and don't like debates or disagreements then forum life is probably not for you.... there are a few solutions though when a tiff arises...block them, scroll on by, or leave the forum... ex's or those wanting to be ex's can also go here i'm sure its all sugar and spice: questioningfriends.com i also think iylo? has an ex only forum you might check that out and maybe another guy But in iylo's forum you have to agree with iylo, -otherwise you get kicked out.Tis not so. Ilylo rarely posts anymore.
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Post by CherieKropp on Jul 5, 2021 9:29:25 GMT -5
When I first came to this board, a number of years ago, it was a place of comfort and support. People who had lived the 2X2 experience and had left or were thinking of leaving or in the process of leaving, supported each other. What happened to this board? What happened to the moderators? It's shameful what goes on here now. This place, which should be a place of support in a time of need, has become a place of intimidation, mockery, rudeness, arrogance, hate and a platform for a political right wing propaganda agenda. I gained a lot of support from this board when I first left the 2X2s, thanks to the number of exes who were on here at the time. Today, outspoken professing members on the board, intimidate, bully and discourage anyone who disagrees with their way of thinking. This is completely unacceptable; shame to those members who think that this is ok, and shame to the moderators who turn a blind eye. This board has changed and not for the better. It's disgusting what this has become. I pity anyone new who comes here for support like I did all those years ago. there is only the admin and 1 mod now. forums work only one way....you post and you get either negative or positive feedback...anything else is just an echo chamber... right wing propaganda? that is laughable the majority here posting are left wingers... if you think the forum was setup to only have everyone validate your choices in this life you are sadly mistaken... if you are not used to and don't like debates or disagreements then forum life is probably not for you.... there are a few solutions though when a tiff arises...block them, scroll on by, or leave the forum... ex's or those wanting to be ex's can also go here i'm sure its all sugar and spice: questioningfriends.com i also think iylo? has an ex only forum you might check that out and maybe another guy The Truth Old & New Facebook-Christian group has taken the place of TMB - about 500 members and growing...It's members are Ex2x2s and seriously questioning 2x2s. www.facebook.com/groups/164371487324554The Liberty Connection (TLC) Forum is solely for ex-2x2s: galatians5.proboards.com/
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Post by nathan02 on Jul 5, 2021 10:21:53 GMT -5
But in iylo's forum you have to agree with iylo, -otherwise you get kicked out. Tis not so. Ilylo rarely posts anymore. *** Ilylo is posting on TMB but he uses different alias.
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Post by intelchips on Jul 5, 2021 10:44:19 GMT -5
To separate the chaff from the wheat one must remember that the purpose of a critical analysis is not merely to inform, but also to evaluate the worth, utility, excellence, distinction, truth, validity, beauty, or goodness of something. This then is not answered by simply posting Bible quotes or links to conspiracy sites. And even if limiting this forum to only ex=2x2s and helping them deal with their doubt how can it be wrong to encourage them to take a hard look at what their faith is built on?
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Post by dmmichgood on Jul 5, 2021 11:13:02 GMT -5
Tis not so. Ilylo rarely posts anymore. *** Ilylo is posting on TMB but he uses different alias. It was true when I was on.
I could not express any oppinin but what he would PM me to stop doing so or he would "excommunitcate" me and he finnally did.
So much for freedom of speech.
He was a tyrant.
I am not surprised that he posts here under different allias.
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Post by nathan02 on Jul 5, 2021 11:17:07 GMT -5
To separate the chaff from the wheat one must remember that the purpose of a critical analysis is not merely to inform, but also to evaluate the worth, utility, excellence, distinction, truth, validity, beauty, or goodness of something. This then is not answered by simply posting Bible quotes or links to conspiracy sites. And even if limiting this forum to only ex=2x2s and helping them deal with their doubt how can it be wrong to encourage them to take a hard look at what their faith is built on? *** Amen, it's a good place for exes and 2x2s to test their beliefs and Faith in God whom they serve or NOT serve.
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Post by CherieKropp on Jul 5, 2021 11:45:34 GMT -5
Tis not so. Ilylo rarely posts anymore. *** Ilylo is posting on TMB but he uses different alias. Readers: Beware - do not believe this. This is false information. But then, most of you know it's not smart to trust nathan's comments without verification. On the anniversary date when ilylo left TMB for good, he often posts a commemoration on TLC--something to the effect that it's been X years since he removed himself from that cesspool. Nate: why did you change your user name to an alias?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2021 12:17:50 GMT -5
*** Ilylo is posting on TMB but he uses different alias. Readers: Beware - do not believe this. This is false information. But then, most of you know it's not smart to trust nathan's comments without verification. On the anniversary date when ilylo left TMB for good, he often posts a commemoration on TLC--something to the effect that it's been X years since he removed himself from that cesspool. Nate: why did you change your user name to an alias? there is no way to confirm that either way unless of course we know his IP number on his forum and can compare to IP numbers here....
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Post by CherieKropp on Jul 5, 2021 12:51:33 GMT -5
Readers: Beware - do not believe this. This is false information. But then, most of you know it's not smart to trust nathan's comments without verification. On the anniversary date when ilylo left TMB for good, he often posts a commemoration on TLC--something to the effect that it's been X years since he removed himself from that cesspool. Nate: why did you change your user name to an alias? there is no way to confirm that either way unless of course we know his IP number on his forum and can compare to IP numbers here.... That is true; however, no one on TMB posts anywhere near his style... If someone believes otherwise, please provide a link to example post.
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Post by fixit on Jul 5, 2021 13:03:27 GMT -5
Nate has no concept of "fact".
His "facts" are his opinions.
If he gets it into his head that Ilylo posts on TMB then he thinks we're at fault if we don't believe him.
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Post by nathan02 on Jul 5, 2021 13:04:24 GMT -5
*** Ilylo is posting on TMB but he uses different alias. Readers: Beware - do not believe this. This is false information. But then, most of you know it's not smart to trust nathan's comments without verification. On the anniversary date when ilylo left TMB for good, he often posts a commemoration on TLC--something to the effect that it's been X years since he removed himself from that cesspool. Nate: why did you change your user name to an alias? ** What are you talking about? Nathan is my user name I use at my home computer after work. I use Nathan02 when I posting on my iPhone at work.
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Post by CherieKropp on Jul 5, 2021 13:10:07 GMT -5
Readers: Beware - do not believe this. This is false information. But then, most of you know it's not smart to trust nathan's comments without verification. On the anniversary date when ilylo left TMB for good, he often posts a commemoration on TLC--something to the effect that it's been X years since he removed himself from that cesspool. Nate: why did you change your user name to an alias? ** What are you talking about? Nathan is my user name I use at my home computer after work. I use Nathan02 when I posting on my iPhone at work. Why not use the same name both places?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2021 13:20:34 GMT -5
It does seem that every thread eventually ends up with people being condemned to hell and a discussion of the inner workings of hollow planets.
I've looked at threads from way back, and though there was plenty of condemnation to go around, it did seem that things were a little more productive.
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Post by nathan02 on Jul 5, 2021 13:30:41 GMT -5
Readers: Beware - do not believe this. This is false information. But then, most of you know it's not smart to trust nathan's comments without verification. On the anniversary date when ilylo left TMB for good, he often posts a commemoration on TLC--something to the effect that it's been X years since he removed himself from that cesspool. Nate: why did you change your user name to an alias? there is no way to confirm that either way unless of course we know his IP number on his forum and can compare to IP numbers here.... *** If you knew Iylo's style and pattern of his writing/thinking you can spot him eventually. If he had a new computer then IP numbers are different than the Old computer.
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Post by nathan02 on Jul 5, 2021 13:34:13 GMT -5
** What are you talking about? Nathan is my user name I use at my home computer after work. I use Nathan02 when I posting on my iPhone at work. Why not use the same name both places? ** I can't because I lost my password for Nathan user name so it would NOT let me log in so I had to create a different name I picked Nathan02 when I am posting at work on my phone. I don't want to miss any fun and action on TMB.
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Post by CherieKropp on Jul 5, 2021 13:35:58 GMT -5
there is no way to confirm that either way unless of course we know his IP number on his forum and can compare to IP numbers here.... *** If you knew Iylo's style and pattern of his writing/thinking you can spot him eventually. Well, its quite obvious YOU don't know his style. Whereas your style, Nate, is very easy to recognize, hard not to. Repeat: show me an example post you think he may have written
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Post by nathan02 on Jul 5, 2021 13:50:55 GMT -5
It does seem that every thread eventually ends up with people being condemned to hell and a discussion of the inner workings of hollow planets. I've looked at threads from way back, and though there was plenty of condemnation to go around, it did seem that things were a little more productive. ** I post heaven and gave the readers the location where heaven is and the description of it but hardly anyone believes it. Both places heaven and hell are mention in the gospels according to the teachings of Jesus and in the book of revelation my posts I want to be fair to all.
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Post by nathan02 on Jul 5, 2021 13:56:21 GMT -5
*** If you knew Iylo's style and pattern of his writing/thinking you can spot him eventually. Well, its quite obvious YOU don't know his style. Whereas your style, Nate, is very easy to recognize, hard not to. Repeat: show me an example post you think he may have written ** I have my opinion, I have dealt with him for many years on the message board... I don't need to show you anything my hunch Iylo is still posting on here by using multiples alias.
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Post by CherieKropp on Jul 5, 2021 15:23:41 GMT -5
Well, its quite obvious YOU don't know his style. Whereas your style, Nate, is very easy to recognize, hard not to. Repeat: show me an example post you think he may have written ** I have my opinion, I have dealt with him for many years on the message board... I don't need to show you anything my hunch Iylo is still posting on here by using multiples alias. Enjoy your delusion - I prefer truth myself... The Importance of Truth. Truth is of primary importance to a rational person. It is more important than retaining one's current belief, should it turn out to be incorrect or unfounded. The rational person chooses to believe what actually occurred, based on the evidence which they carefully examine, weigh, test, and evaluate. They come to terms with contradictions and scandals. Is the evidence sufficient? Which narrative has the highest probability and credibility? Truth is secondary to an irrational person. They will often give primary importance to holding fast to one's current belief. Unwilling to examine contrary evidence, the irrational person may make decisions and form beliefs from emotions (love, fear, hope, anger, etc.), vested interest, authority figures, tradition, repetition, familiarity, suggestion, habit, prejudice, propaganda, intimidation, whims, arbitrariness, gut feeling, apathy, submissiveness, etc. Rejecting what one does not want to know in favor of what one prefers to believe, the irrational person is more concerned with securing an arrangement of facts that coincide with current or comfortable beliefs than in finding truth. They may expend much effort to justify a challenged belief and to preserve fiction, fraud, fables, myths, and errors rather than to admit to or accept the truth of a matter. Their beliefs are not based on adequate evidence and sound logic. A delusion is “a fixed false belief that is resistant to reason or confrontation with actual fact.”
"There are just two kinds of people: one to whom Belief is more precious than Truth, and the other to whom Truth is more precious than Belief." (Author unknown)
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