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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2021 2:59:09 GMT -5
i don't even come close to repeating the same questions over and over again that you do. repeating answers is a given as true answers are always repeatable and some people including you need it repeated especially as it seems to take a while to sink into a thicker skull...good try though Where would us "thick skulled" people be with out the great @wally and nathan !!! We are so grateful to you both, as you seem to have all the answers and surely must be closer to your God than others. You would have made a great Worker @wally !!! you are welcome and thank you, glad i could help...
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2021 3:03:01 GMT -5
i'm bound to Christ and a willing slave to him. so better to be a slave to him than a slave to the beast which you are.... Matthew 10:24 “A disciple is not above his teacher, nor a slave above his master. 1 Corinthians 7:22 For he who was called in the Lord while a slave, is the Lord’s freedman; likewise he who was called while free, is Christ’s slave. good try though chuck(false god) preaching a false gospel... You seem to be a bit mixed up @wally ...its your mate nathan that is preaching a "false gospel" with all his Venus, hollow earth BS ! i doubt that you even remember what the gospel is....
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Post by Roselyn T on May 27, 2021 4:26:39 GMT -5
Oh so you are God now are you @wally !!! How do you know chuck has rejected the Holy Spirit ? Are you really in the place to judge others? who said i was God? have you not been following along with what Chuck has said here about everything in the bible? try again sunshine.... Well I would think it would only be your God who knew if someone had rejected the HS ...therefore you are putting yourself in the place of God @wally.
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Post by Roselyn T on May 27, 2021 4:31:49 GMT -5
You seem to be a bit mixed up @wally ...its your mate nathan that is preaching a "false gospel" with all his Venus, hollow earth BS ! i doubt that you even remember what the gospel is.... Are you talking to nathan, @wally ? Whether I remember the gospel or not is not the issue, the issue is you support someone who believes a false gospel, then you accuse chuck of believing a false gospel. Come on @wally you are smarter than us, I shouldn't have to explain it to you !!
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2021 12:13:06 GMT -5
who said i was God? have you not been following along with what Chuck has said here about everything in the bible? try again sunshine.... Well I would think it would only be your God who knew if someone had rejected the HS ...therefore you are putting yourself in the place of God @wally . you shall know them by their fruits....
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2021 12:15:27 GMT -5
i doubt that you even remember what the gospel is.... Are you talking to nathan , @wally ? Whether I remember the gospel or not is not the issue, the issue is you support someone who believes a false gospel, then you accuse chuck of believing a false gospel. Come on @wally you are smarter than us, I shouldn't have to explain it to you !! ole chuck is leading people away from God nathan at least is trying to point them to God...keep up...good try though
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Post by nathan02 on May 27, 2021 12:44:25 GMT -5
Where would us "thick skulled" people be with out the great @wally and nathan !!! We are so grateful to you both, as you seem to have all the answers and surely must be closer to your God than others. You would have made a great Worker @wally !!! you are welcome and thank you, glad i could help... ** Right on, talking to the ex-2×2 atheists are like talking to a BRICK Wall they can't see, hear or believe in Jesus teachings once they had believed. Paul wrote the god of this world/Satan has blinded their eyes so they are no longer see, understand and believe in gospel of Jesus Christ.
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Post by nathan02 on May 27, 2021 13:23:38 GMT -5
i doubt that you even remember what the gospel is.... Are you talking to nathan, @wally ? Whether I remember the gospel or not is not the issue, the issue is you support someone who believes a false gospel, then you accuse chuck of believing a false gospel. Come on @wally you are smarter than us, I shouldn't have to explain it to you !! *** The gospel of Jesus Christ that I teach is the basic and advance courses. You atheists are NOT going to like to hear or believe any of it I can see for over 20 years. You wait and see these things and events I have mention are true and it will be known to all the world soon.
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Post by chuck on May 27, 2021 16:28:12 GMT -5
i doubt that you even remember what the gospel is.... Are you talking to nathan, @wally ? Whether I remember the gospel or not is not the issue, the issue is you support someone who believes a false gospel, then you accuse chuck of believing a false gospel. Come on @wally you are smarter than us, I shouldn't have to explain it to you !! The gospel was never "go out and convert everyone to be like me". So you know when anyone talks "gospel" but has to convert you into their elitist image in the process it's not "the truth". 25 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You clean the outside of the cup and dish, but inside they are full of greed and self-indulgence.26 Blind Pharisee! First clean the inside of the cup and dish, and then the outside also will be clean.27 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You are like whitewashed tombs, which look beautiful on the outside but on the inside are full of the bones of the dead and everything unclean.28 In the same way, on the outside you appear to people as righteous but on the inside you are full of hypocrisy and wickedness. - Matthew 23:25-28 www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew23:25-28&version=NIVNot bible bashing you or trying to convert you btw 😉.
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Post by chuck on May 27, 2021 16:46:49 GMT -5
Are you talking to nathan , @wally ? Whether I remember the gospel or not is not the issue, the issue is you support someone who believes a false gospel, then you accuse chuck of believing a false gospel. Come on @wally you are smarter than us, I shouldn't have to explain it to you !! ole chuck is leading people away from God nathan at least is trying to point them to God...keep up...good try though Why would anyone want to follow a God that throws you in a lake of flames for not agreeing with wally and Nathan?..... I don't have to lead anyone away, let alone lead them towards your outward judgemental flames......
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Post by chuck on May 27, 2021 16:55:12 GMT -5
Well I would think it would only be your God who knew if someone had rejected the HS ...therefore you are putting yourself in the place of God @wally . you shall know them by their fruits.... Will everyone that doesn't see it like you burn in hell? Just curious....
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Post by chuck on May 27, 2021 17:00:05 GMT -5
Are you talking to nathan, @wally ? Whether I remember the gospel or not is not the issue, the issue is you support someone who believes a false gospel, then you accuse chuck of believing a false gospel. Come on @wally you are smarter than us, I shouldn't have to explain it to you !! *** The gospel of Jesus Christ that I teach is the basic and advance courses. You atheists are NOT going to like to hear or believe any of it I can see for over 20 years. You wait and see these things and events I have mention are true and it will be known to all the world soon. Nathan you teach 2x2ism. The gospel doesn't convert people to be like your image. That's religion. And it is spiritual abuse.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2021 18:10:23 GMT -5
ole chuck is leading people away from God nathan at least is trying to point them to God...keep up...good try though Why would anyone want to follow a God that throws you in a lake of flames for not agreeing with wally and Nathan?..... I don't have to lead anyone away, let alone lead them towards your outward judgemental flames...... Gods judgement does not rely on anyone but him...good try though you must be doing some pretty evil things for you to keep worrying about being burned...good luck you'll need it...
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2021 18:13:52 GMT -5
you shall know them by their fruits.... Will everyone that doesn't see it like you burn in hell? Just curious.... i've never used the term "if you don't see it like me you'll burn"...the burning in your future will happen only because you have rejected God and his word, clean up your act and you wont have to worry about such things...good try though
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Post by nathan02 on May 27, 2021 18:40:34 GMT -5
*** The gospel of Jesus Christ that I teach is the basic and advance courses. You atheists are NOT going to like to hear or believe any of it I can see for over 20 years. You wait and see these things and events I have mention are true and it will be known to all the world soon. Nathan you teach 2x2ism. The gospel doesn't convert people to be like your image. That's religion. And it is spiritual abuse. *** The workers and I teach Jesus 2x2 apostolic/workers New Testament ministry and fellowship. And I just update where heaven is, where God the Father, Jesus Christ, the Holy Venusians angels of God, the Old and New Testament souls are LIVING these days. 2000 years ago, Jesus Christ REVEALED the location of His Father HOME and his in Revelation 22:16. In John 14 Jesus talked about His heavenly Father mansions and he returning back home and his apostles and followers are welcome to join him after death. 95 A.D. Jesus took john the apostle to see His Heavenly Father's home and he told the believers on earth the location. Now, we have proof of the location the BRIGHT and Morning Star is the planet Venus, our earth twin sister planet. We Read Christ/God created Adam in His image and God the Father a d he placed them to be in charged of everything on and in the earth. Christ came down from His home in heaven to visit and had fellowship with Adam and Eve quite often before the Fall. After the Fall, Christ continued to visit and tell them His plans of Redemption the humans Noah, Abraham Genesis 18-19; Moses, king David and many Of Old Testament prophets. God the Father, Christ/God the angels, Old Testament and New Test. Believers souls are ALIVE and they live in heaven/Venus with the Godhead and the 3/4 of the good angels. Heaven /Venus planet is a REAL place where ALL believers souls will all go after death . Heaven is Real so is Hades, which is pinside the inner earth where all unbelievers souls will go AFTER they died. Jeusus is telling the truth about Hades in Luke 16.
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Post by chuck on May 27, 2021 22:09:34 GMT -5
Why would anyone want to follow a God that throws you in a lake of flames for not agreeing with wally and Nathan?..... I don't have to lead anyone away, let alone lead them towards your outward judgemental flames...... Gods judgement does not rely on anyone but him...good try though you must be doing some pretty evil things for you to keep worrying about being burned...good luck you'll need it... "wallys judgement does not rely on anyone but him...good try though" I agree.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2021 22:17:36 GMT -5
Gods judgement does not rely on anyone but him...good try though you must be doing some pretty evil things for you to keep worrying about being burned...good luck you'll need it... "wallys judgement does not rely on anyone but him...good try though" I agree. that is not what i wrote chuck(false god) good try though...
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Post by Roselyn T on May 28, 2021 3:10:10 GMT -5
Are you talking to nathan , @wally ? Whether I remember the gospel or not is not the issue, the issue is you support someone who believes a false gospel, then you accuse chuck of believing a false gospel. Come on @wally you are smarter than us, I shouldn't have to explain it to you !! ole chuck is leading people away from God nathan at least is trying to point them to God...keep up...good try though 🤣🤣🤣...oh so by telling people JC lives in Venus, that is pointing them to God, @wally? Maybe ask your local Workers if that's how they see it !!!
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Post by Roselyn T on May 28, 2021 3:28:49 GMT -5
Are you talking to nathan, @wally ? Whether I remember the gospel or not is not the issue, the issue is you support someone who believes a false gospel, then you accuse chuck of believing a false gospel. Come on @wally you are smarter than us, I shouldn't have to explain it to you !! *** The gospel of Jesus Christ that I teach is the basic and advance courses. You atheists are NOT going to like to hear or believe any of it I can see for over 20 years. You wait and see these things and events I have mention are true and it will be known to all the world soon. The gospel you preach, is NOT what the Worker’s preach nathan.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2021 3:31:33 GMT -5
ole chuck is leading people away from God nathan at least is trying to point them to God...keep up...good try though 🤣🤣🤣...oh so by telling people JC lives in Venus, that is pointing them to God, @wally ? Maybe ask your local Workers if that's how they see it !!! Ole chuck doesn't believe in anything in the bible he thinks Jesus at best is the fleshly son of joseph, God is a sky daddy and the Holy Spirit is a cop-out. Nathan believes in God, Jesus and The Holy Spirit regardless of where they are located....so pray tell who is pointing to them or leading people away from them? and what happened to being a cheerleader for nathan? are you now throwing him under the bus?
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Post by Roselyn T on May 28, 2021 5:34:39 GMT -5
🤣🤣🤣...oh so by telling people JC lives in Venus, that is pointing them to God, @wally ? Maybe ask your local Workers if that's how they see it !!! Ole chuck doesn't believe in anything in the bible he thinks Jesus at best is the fleshly son of joseph, God is a sky daddy and the Holy Spirit is a cop-out. Nathan believes in God, Jesus and The Holy Spirit regardless of where they are located....so pray tell who is pointing to them or leading people away from them? and what happened to being a cheerleader for nathan? are you now throwing him under the bus? I was never a "cheerleader" for nathan, @wally ! Ask your local Workers about JC living in Venus and Frank Stranges...then get back to us with their views ! nathan's views would turn more people against God, than chuck's ever would.
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Post by nathan on May 28, 2021 9:21:57 GMT -5
Are you talking to nathan , @wally ? Whether I remember the gospel or not is not the issue, the issue is you support someone who believes a false gospel, then you accuse chuck of believing a false gospel. Come on @wally you are smarter than us, I shouldn't have to explain it to you !! The gospel was never "go out and convert everyone to be like me". So you know when anyone talks "gospel" but has to convert you into their elitist image in the process it's not "the truth". 25 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You clean the outside of the cup and dish, but inside they are full of greed and self-indulgence.26 Blind Pharisee! First clean the inside of the cup and dish, and then the outside also will be clean.27 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You are like whitewashed tombs, which look beautiful on the outside but on the inside are full of the bones of the dead and everything unclean.28 In the same way, on the outside you appear to people as righteous but on the inside you are full of hypocrisy and wickedness. - Matthew 23:25-28 www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew23:25-28&version=NIVNot bible bashing you or trying to convert you btw 😉. You need to read your Bible more often, Chuck. There were false brethren, apostles preaching, and teaching false teachings in the New Testament, we read in the epistles of Paul, Peter, James, John and Jude WARN about them, pleading with them NOT to teach false teachings to those in their fellowship to make shipwreck their faith and Salvation. The false teachers saints or servants need to be converted or they are doom and those who listened to their false teachings or gospel.I Timothy 1:17-20 7 Now to the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only God, be honor and glory for ever and ever. Amen. Timothy, my son, I am giving you this command in keeping with the prophecies once made about you, so that by recalling them you may fight the battle well, holding on to faith and a good conscience, which some have rejected and so have suffered shipwreck with regard to the faith. Among them are Hymenaeus and Alexander, whom I have handed over to Satan to be taught not to blaspheme.II Tim. 2:15-20 Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a worker who does not need to be ashamed and who correctly handles the word of truth. Avoid godless chatter, because those who indulge in it will become more and more ungodly. Their teaching will spread like gangrene. Among them are Hymenaeus and Philetus, who have departed from the truth. They say that the resurrection has already taken place, and they destroy the faith of some. Nevertheless, God’s solid foundation stands firm, sealed with this inscription: “The Lord knows those who are his,” and, “Everyone who confesses the name of the Lord must turn away from wickedness.” There are many other similar verses in the New Testament like the above but these two are good enough for now.
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Post by Annan on May 28, 2021 9:50:53 GMT -5
The gospel you preach, is NOT what the Worker’s preach nathan. Exactly. Nathan is not a 2x2. He's a liar and a know-it-all. Pope Nathan I.
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Post by nathan02 on May 28, 2021 12:09:56 GMT -5
*** The gospel of Jesus Christ that I teach is the basic and advance courses. You atheists are NOT going to like to hear or believe any of it I can see for over 20 years. You wait and see these things and events I have mention are true and it will be known to all the world soon. The gospel you preach, is NOT what the Worker’s preach nathan. ** Like I said a few years now I teach the advance ABC Jesus 2x2 apostolic 2x2 ministry the church meet in the homes of believers to worship the Godhead. The gospel of XYZ= Jesus is Yahweh God; Christ is God and Man/Jesus. Jesus came down from heaven/ Venus planet and that is where God, Christ, the Holy Spirit, all the angels of God, and old Most of the workers preach the ABC/basic gospel= Jesus 2x2 apostolic ministry, the New Testament fellowship, Jesus the Son of God; he is NOT God. They don't believe in the Trinity. They believe Jesus is NOT God. The Holy Spirit is a force and he is NOT God either. They believe in heaven and hell but don't KNOW where those two places are.
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Post by BobWilliston on May 28, 2021 13:26:57 GMT -5
The gospel you preach, is NOT what the Worker’s preach nathan. ** Like I said a few years now I teach the advance ABC Jesus 2x2 apostolic 2x2 ministry the church meet in the homes of believers to worship the Godhead. The gospel of XYZ= Jesus is Yahweh God; Christ is God and Man/Jesus. Jesus came down from heaven/ Venus planet and that is where God, Christ, the Holy Spirit, all the angels of God, and old Most of the workers preach the ABC/basic gospel= Jesus 2x2 apostolic ministry, the New Testament fellowship, Jesus the Son of God; he is NOT God. They don't believe in the Trinity. They believe Jesus is NOT God. The Holy Spirit is a force and he is NOT God either. They believe in heaven and hell but don't KNOW where those two places are.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on May 28, 2021 15:20:03 GMT -5
The gospel you preach, is NOT what the Worker’s preach nathan . ** Like I said a few years now I teach the advance ABC Jesus 2x2 apostolic 2x2 ministry the church meet in the homes of believers to worship the Godhead. The gospel of XYZ= Jesus is Yahweh God; Christ is God and Man/Jesus. Jesus came down from heaven/ Venus planet and that is where God, Christ, the Holy Spirit, all the angels of God, and old Most of the workers preach the ABC/basic gospel= Jesus 2x2 apostolic ministry, the New Testament fellowship, Jesus the Son of God; he is NOT God. They don't believe in the Trinity. They believe Jesus is NOT God. The Holy Spirit is a force and he is NOT God either. They believe in heaven and hell but don't KNOW where those two places are. Tell the workers this and wait to be booted out. Prove that you have those big balls you told us of.
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Post by chuck on May 28, 2021 15:50:25 GMT -5
🤣🤣🤣...oh so by telling people JC lives in Venus, that is pointing them to God, @wally ? Maybe ask your local Workers if that's how they see it !!! Ole chuck doesn't believe in anything in the bible he thinks Jesus at best is the fleshly son of joseph, God is a sky daddy and the Holy Spirit is a cop-out. Nathan believes in God, Jesus and The Holy Spirit regardless of where they are located....so pray tell who is pointing to them or leading people away from them? and what happened to being a cheerleader for nathan? are you now throwing him under the bus? They aren't locatable things wally. Elitist need them to be locatable things so they can control access to them and treat anyone like dirt that doesn't see it like them. Locatable things is you thinking "noun". Hebrew writers didn't think like you!. You still have not grasped this concept. They wrote within the framework of their time. Read it like so and understand what westerners have done to it since that time...... This is not locatable, it's a characteristic lived out. That's it. No fairy's or unicorns required....... He defended the cause of the poor and needy, and so all went well. Is that not what it means to know me?” declares the Lord. - Jeremiah 22:16 www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Jeremiah22:16&version=NIVThis is not a locatable thing. Eternal life is "are you willing to share everything you have with your enemy".....Its a characteristic lived out... not living for ever and ever and ever and ever somewhere else..... On one occasion an expert in the law stood up to test Jesus. “Teacher,” he asked, “what must I do to inherit eternal life?”26 “What is written in the Law?” he replied. “How do you read it?”He answered, “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind’; and, ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ ”28 “You have answered correctly,” Jesus replied. “Do this and you will live.”But he wanted to justify himself, so he asked Jesus, “And who is my neighbor?”In reply Jesus said: “A man was going down from Jerusalem to Jericho, when he was attacked by robbers. They stripped him of his clothes, beat him and went away, leaving him half dead.31 A priest happened to be going down the same road, and when he saw the man, he passed by on the other side.32 So too, a Levite, when he came to the place and saw him, passed by on the other side.33 But a Samaritan, as he traveled, came where the man was; and when he saw him, he took pity on him.34 He went to him and bandaged his wounds, pouring on oil and wine. Then he put the man on his own donkey, brought him to an inn and took care of him.35 The next day he took out two denarii and gave them to the innkeeper. ‘Look after him,’ he said, ‘and when I return, I will reimburse you for any extra expense you may have.’36 “Which of these three do you think was a neighbor to the man who fell into the hands of robbers?”The expert in the law replied, “The one who had mercy on him.” Jesus told him, “Go and do likewise.” - Luke 10:25-37 www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke10:25-37&version=NIVThis characteristic is not controlled or confined, by groups of people like you wally with access to special magical spirits. If you bothered to even read half of what I said you would have noted I said "you use the holy spirit as a copout", that's it, nothing else, you made up the bit that I don't believe it. I believe it, but it's not what you say it is. It's a character that doesn't enslave. Not something you understand unfortunately because you refuse to understand how and why the writers wrote like they did.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2021 15:55:46 GMT -5
Ole chuck doesn't believe in anything in the bible he thinks Jesus at best is the fleshly son of joseph, God is a sky daddy and the Holy Spirit is a cop-out. Nathan believes in God, Jesus and The Holy Spirit regardless of where they are located....so pray tell who is pointing to them or leading people away from them? and what happened to being a cheerleader for nathan? are you now throwing him under the bus? They aren't locatable things wally. Elitist need them to be locatable things so they can control access to them and treat anyone like dirt that doesn't see it like them. Locatable things is you thinking "noun". Hebrew writers didn't think like you!. You still have not grasped this concept. They wrote within the framework of their time. Read it like so and understand what westerners have done to it since that time...... This is not locatable, it's a characteristic lived out. That's it. No fairy's or unicorns required....... He defended the cause of the poor and needy, and so all went well. Is that not what it means to know me?” declares the Lord. - Jeremiah 22:16 www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Jeremiah22:16&version=NIVThis is not a locatable thing. Eternal life is "are you willing to share everything you have with your enemy".....Its a characteristic lived out... not living for ever and ever and ever and ever somewhere else..... On one occasion an expert in the law stood up to test Jesus. “Teacher,” he asked, “what must I do to inherit eternal life?”26 “What is written in the Law?” he replied. “How do you read it?”He answered, “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind’; and, ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ ”28 “You have answered correctly,” Jesus replied. “Do this and you will live.”But he wanted to justify himself, so he asked Jesus, “And who is my neighbor?”In reply Jesus said: “A man was going down from Jerusalem to Jericho, when he was attacked by robbers. They stripped him of his clothes, beat him and went away, leaving him half dead.31 A priest happened to be going down the same road, and when he saw the man, he passed by on the other side.32 So too, a Levite, when he came to the place and saw him, passed by on the other side.33 But a Samaritan, as he traveled, came where the man was; and when he saw him, he took pity on him.34 He went to him and bandaged his wounds, pouring on oil and wine. Then he put the man on his own donkey, brought him to an inn and took care of him.35 The next day he took out two denarii and gave them to the innkeeper. ‘Look after him,’ he said, ‘and when I return, I will reimburse you for any extra expense you may have.’36 “Which of these three do you think was a neighbor to the man who fell into the hands of robbers?”The expert in the law replied, “The one who had mercy on him.” Jesus told him, “Go and do likewise.” - Luke 10:25-37 www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke10:25-37&version=NIVThis characteristic is not controlled or confined, by groups of people like you wally with access to special magical spirits. If you bothered to even read half of what I said you would have noted I said "you use the holy spirit as a copout", that's it, nothing else, you made up the bit that I don't believe it. I believe it, but it's not what you say it is. It's a character that doesn't enslave. Not something you understand unfortunately because you refuse to understand how and why the writers wrote like they did. It turns out I am right once again...your unbelief is noted... God doesn't need to be locatable that is where faith comes in...good try though
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