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Post by dmmichgood on Apr 5, 2021 15:03:54 GMT -5
I think I'm just the opposite of disgruntled which I guess means I am gruntled.Of course disgruntled is just another word for bitter which is one of the 2 official reasons for leaving which the 2x2s usually give for those who have left. Bitter is for those who leave and are never coming back while unwilling is for those who they haven’t quite given up on yet. If you’re young or gay or display any inkling of worldliness you’re likely to be labelled unwilling and attract a sort of pity; however if you’re on TMB and publicly exposing the folly/absurdity/history/truth of the 2x2 church then you’re going to be labelled bitter. Bitter basically means being in league with Satan. Bitter and unwilling are terms designed to protect the reputation of the 2x2 church and help maintain the myth. They enable blame to be placed solely on the member leaving rather than on the church itself thereby allowing the church to escape having to engage in honest self reflection. One never asks a worker why did Johnnie leave and get the answer ‘because he thinks the whole thing is bullsh*t’; one never asks a worker why did Jimmy leave and receive the answer ‘because he was molested by a worker’. Such departures are inevitably dressed up as something else. This phoney categorisation is all part of a wider agenda of denial in an attempt to cover up uncomfortable truths. Being offended is a third much less common reason for leaving which is usually reserved for the mysterious leaver whose sincerity in unquestioned. The upstanding member who leaves quietly and somewhat inexplicably. Unlikely to be embracing a new hedonistic lifestyle on the outside and continuing to maintain a dignified silence, such leavers leave the church scratching its head and wondering what it might have done to offend them. Being branded one of the offended carries a lot less stigma than bitter or unwilling and leaves the door open to a potential swift return and then pretending that it never happened. Of course there is a fourth reason which is reserved solely for workers leaving the work. And that reason is nerves. Nerves is vague and mysterious and is likely to elicit sympathy. Nerves covers a multitude of reasons and is a clever way of avoiding further questions. Nerves is also something that can be cured and therefore leaves open the possibility of a dignified return at some stage. Nerves can be a short term or long term condition and can strike suddenly and unexpectedly or it can be the cumulation of an ongoing problem. And the fact that it isn’t a recognised medical condition means that there is no expectation of treatment and a swift recovery but yet neither is it terminal. Nerves is not unlike the “just short of being jaundice” condition which hospitalised Yossarian in Catch-22 for such a long period. “ The doctors were puzzled by the fact that it wasn't quite jaundice. If it became jaundice they could treat it. If it didn't become jaundice and went away they could discharge him. But this just being short of jaundice all the time confused them.” Matt10 Your post explains why I would NOT explain to anyone why I left! I had heard how they would spin it all before.
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Post by Annan on Apr 5, 2021 16:06:51 GMT -5
Then I am very well protected. Got my first vaccine three weeks ago and had body aches for a week. Got my second vaccine three days ago and was very ill, vomiting, shaking with chills, burning with fever, couldn’t stand up as my body turned to jelly. Still better than than having covid twice. That does sound severe. Which of the vaccines was it? Pfizer. I had body aches for a week with my first vaccine. The hubby had Moderna and had no side effects, although he tested positive for covid and only had the sniffles for three days. I bled when they gave me the second vaccine. I was told covid messes with your white blood cell count. It's the norm for me to react so violently to most meds. I lived on Advil through ten major surgeries as I am allergic to most prescription pain meds.
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Post by dmmichgood on Apr 5, 2021 16:35:31 GMT -5
That does sound severe. Which of the vaccines was it? Pfizer. I had body aches for a week with my first vaccine. The hubby had Moderna and had no side effects, although he tested positive for covid and only had the sniffles for three days. I bled when they gave me the second vaccine. I was told covid messes with your white blood cell count. It's the norm for me to react so violently to most meds. I lived on Advil through ten major surgeries as I am allergic to most prescription pain meds. One answer MIGHT be: Since you bled when they gave me the second vaccine, there is the possibility that the vaccine went directly into your blood system, -not saying for sure, -just a possibility.
With intermuscular injections we were always suppose to pull back on the syringe to make sure the needle was in the muscle & NOT in a vein.
Reason: medications are absorbed much faster in the vein than the muscle and medications are formed with that in mind and are different accordingly.
But then again, that may not have anything to do with your reaction.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Apr 5, 2021 17:04:34 GMT -5
The other reason why workers leave is because of heart problems. Such as Nathan had. curlywurlysammagee, my friend, don't you think maybe some leave because they finally got some education on the history of how the Old Testament and the New Testament became and how the various religions became? Or maybe they learned Hebrew and read the Talmud for themselves and seen how the KJV twisted the actual words to fit a Christian narrative? Or maybe I have no idea what I'm talking about. I depend on you to treat me fair. I personally do not know any that have gone down that path. That would be quite a departure from the gospel according to Walker. But I can see how it could happen, especially with the better education available to all in this age.
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