magpies39plus
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Post by magpies39plus on Mar 24, 2021 16:58:18 GMT -5
During your one hour Sunday services that is the time for twelve christians to be Martyred (over 100,000 in 2017).NOT BECAUSE OF THEIR DENOMINATION BUT THEIR FAITH IN JESUS-these your brothers and and sisters in Christ. Here in this State from 1931 we had two registered names Christian Assemblies of Australia and then Christian Conventions of Victoria-and we had to lie that we were non-denominational. So if you were Martyred,persecuted,displaced,jailed for your Faith in Jesus you will be standing beside the millions of those who are there for their Faith, And you? Under 2x2s doctrine they are all unsaved,regardless to their persecutions. Is this right? Magpie
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Post by mountain on Mar 26, 2021 3:55:48 GMT -5
During your one hour Sunday services that is the time for twelve christians to be Martyred (over 100,000 in 2017).NOT BECAUSE OF THEIR DENOMINATION BUT THEIR FAITH IN JESUS-these your brothers and and sisters in Christ. Here in this State from 1931 we had two registered names Christian Assemblies of Australia and then Christian Conventions of Victoria-and we had to lie that we were non-denominational. So if you were Martyred,persecuted,displaced,jailed for your Faith in Jesus you will be standing beside the millions of those who are there for their Faith, And you? Under 2x2s doctrine they are all unsaved,regardless to their persecutions. Is this right? Magpie Two words answer your question. 'Only Way!' The real question is......is it the 'only way.'
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2021 5:51:22 GMT -5
During your one hour Sunday services that is the time for twelve christians to be Martyred (over 100,000 in 2017).NOT BECAUSE OF THEIR DENOMINATION BUT THEIR FAITH IN JESUS-these your brothers and and sisters in Christ. Here in this State from 1931 we had two registered names Christian Assemblies of Australia and then Christian Conventions of Victoria-and we had to lie that we were non-denominational. So if you were Martyred,persecuted,displaced,jailed for your Faith in Jesus you will be standing beside the millions of those who are there for their Faith, And you? Under 2x2s doctrine they are all unsaved,regardless to their persecutions. Is this right? Magpie The 2x2s think the Catholics are unsaved. The Catholics think the Plymouth Brethren are unsaved. The Plymouth Brethren think the Mormons are unsaved. And the Mormons think everyone else is unsaved including the Presbyterians. Meanwhile the Presbyterians think all non believers are unsaved and will spend eternity in a fiery pit along with the wh@remongers, the Catholics and the fearful. Trying to figure out who is right and who is wrong is a pointless pursuit when you have only your own beliefs and prejudices to judge right and wrong by. The only question worth asking is whether you (yourself) are right and then trying to figure out whether there is any rational basis for answering in the affirmative. The 2x2s may be crazy but they aren’t that much more crazy in their beliefs that the other groups I have mentioned above. Remember faith is believing things that aren’t true and therefore it doesn’t really matter what or who your faith is in, or what faith you are. The only thing that really matters is truth. If you have truth you don’t need faith. Which is why you won’t hear any non believer speak of their faith here. Matt10
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Post by mountain on Mar 26, 2021 6:11:51 GMT -5
When you think about it, there are many 'only ways!' This begs the question......'which only way is the only way?'
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2021 10:01:11 GMT -5
There are many ways of going forward, but only one way of standing still. Franklin D. Roosevelt
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Post by magpies39plus on Mar 26, 2021 17:55:50 GMT -5
G'day Redback. 4 replies for this subject? Yet FIFTY pages on a simple yes/no question "Have you studied the history of Celibacy?" Wonder where some brains and hearts are placed? Magpie
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Post by Dan on Mar 26, 2021 21:51:35 GMT -5
During your one hour Sunday services that is the time for twelve christians to be Martyred (over 100,000 in 2017).NOT BECAUSE OF THEIR DENOMINATION BUT THEIR FAITH IN JESUS-these are your brothers and sisters in Christ. Here in this State from 1931 we had two registered names Christian Assemblies of Australia and then Christian Conventions of Victoria-and we had to lie that we were non-denominational. So if you were Martyred,persecuted,displaced,jailed for your Faith in Jesus you will be standing beside the millions of those who are there for their Faith, And you? Under 2x2s doctrine they are all unsaved,regardless to their persecutions. Is this right? Magpie
There's just one way to salvation. A couple thousand years ago, someone said "I am the way" (John 14:6). The apostles and many others were martyred because they professed and believed in Christ.
Its not a lie to say that your non-denominational when your not associated with any organized denomination. A Christian is recognized for who they follow and believe in. And no, there's no 2x2 doctrine
that suggest others are automatically hell bound (unsaved) if they aren't in their meetings. They only claim to be following the Truth themselves. Religion, denominations, groups, or any specific church can't
save anyone, they only serve to guide you to the one who can.
The church is the many membered body of Christ, and "whoever believeth" will be part of the harvest when He returns... That's how I see it; One way, one truth, and one path that leads to salvation. Its not a church you like or a group you agree with, but the simple teachings and example of Christ.
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Post by mountain on Mar 27, 2021 14:11:42 GMT -5
When you think about it, there are many 'only ways!' This begs the question......'which only way is the only way?' The word says Jesus is the way the truth and the life Not a denomination The way is narrow not broad Thou dost answer well my dear Shushy. Does not the heron devour frogs by the multitude? Is not its only measure that by which its hunger is reprieved?
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Post by speak on Mar 27, 2021 21:19:10 GMT -5
When you think about it, there are many 'only ways!' This begs the question......'which only way is the only way?' Gods
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Post by openingact34 on Mar 27, 2021 23:45:16 GMT -5
During your one hour Sunday services that is the time for twelve christians to be Martyred (over 100,000 in 2017).NOT BECAUSE OF THEIR DENOMINATION BUT THEIR FAITH IN JESUS-these your brothers and and sisters in Christ. Here in this State from 1931 we had two registered names Christian Assemblies of Australia and then Christian Conventions of Victoria-and we had to lie that we were non-denominational. So if you were Martyred,persecuted,displaced,jailed for your Faith in Jesus you will be standing beside the millions of those who are there for their Faith, And you? Under 2x2s doctrine they are all unsaved,regardless to their persecutions. Is this right? Magpie Two words answer your question. 'Only Way!' The real question is......is it the 'only way.' God murdered the entire planet in the Flood. Untold millions dead. The only way to be saved was to be on the ark. A lot of other people had boats, but they were not magic boats so God killed them.
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Post by nathan on Mar 28, 2021 0:00:36 GMT -5
Two words answer your question. 'Only Way!' The real question is......is it the 'only way.' God murdered the entire planet in the Flood. Untold millions dead. The only way to be saved was to be on the ark. A lot of other people had boats, but they were not magic boats so God killed them. The Ark is symbolic of Christ Jesus our LORD God and Savior! He is our ONLY Salvation safety. Christ/Jesus SAVES us and no human on earth or any angel in heaven can redeem us from our sins. Jesus is God and man and ONLY He can SAVE us to RESTORE the image of God in us when He comes to reign as King of kings on earth.
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Post by mountain on Mar 28, 2021 4:27:03 GMT -5
Two words answer your question. 'Only Way!' The real question is......is it the 'only way.' God murdered the entire planet in the Flood. Untold millions dead. The only way to be saved was to be on the ark. A lot of other people had boats, but they were not magic boats so God killed them. Research the meaning of the term 'murder!' In most societies murder is the 'unlawful' killing of another person. By granting natural life in the first place, the fact that God has determined this to be temporal, meaning he has brought temporal death into every life. God gives life and he takes it away. He is not subject to man's laws or ways. God regards temporal life as something that is precious. For those who very seriously break God ordained laws, there is the possibility of penalty of early temporal death. Everything that God does, is for the advancement of his righteousness, not criminality. Every death that God causes is for his righteousness sake, thus the perishing of those in the great flood was a righteous act, not a criminal one. It was 'lawful' killing. Lawful killing is not murder. It is justified in man's laws as well as God's laws. My Bible does not mention that a lot of people had boats. I have only your word for it. However, the Ark was specially designed to withstand the enormous upheaval of the flood, undersea volcanoes, earthquakes, continental fragmentation, coal and oil forming processes, and possibly rice refrigeration measures, etc. Virgs (apart from the emboldened portion)
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Post by mountain on Mar 28, 2021 4:30:37 GMT -5
God murdered the entire planet in the Flood. Untold millions dead. The only way to be saved was to be on the ark. A lot of other people had boats, but they were not magic boats so God killed them. The Ark is symbolic of Christ Jesus our LORD God and Savior! He is our ONLY Salvation safety. Christ/Jesus SAVES us and no human on earth or any angel in heaven can redeem us from our sins. Jesus is God and man and ONLY He can SAVE us to RESTORE the image of God in us when He comes to reign as King of kings on earth.
That's NOT what Noah said! (Virgs)
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Post by nathan on Mar 28, 2021 9:19:42 GMT -5
The Ark is symbolic of Christ Jesus our LORD God and Savior! He is our ONLY Salvation safety. Christ/Jesus SAVES us and no human on earth or any angel in heaven can redeem us from our sins. Jesus is God and man and ONLY He can SAVE us to RESTORE the image of God in us when He comes to reign as King of kings on earth.
That's NOT what Noah said! (Virgs) That is what the TRUE believers come to understand as Christ and the Holy Spirit reveal it to them today! I have heard the workers preached the same lesson, that the Ark is symbolic of Christ Jesus so ENTER and STAY inside the ark don't wondering, and playing outside the ark, the flood might come suddenly and you find yourselves die outside, he is our hope of Salvation.
I preach the same message of Salvation that Christ is the Ark today that we must take refuge in before the flood/Jesus 2nd coming came, just like in the days of Noah did when I was in the work. Why don't you stop writing under the name of Virgs or Valiant Thor and other names, just post under your own name/Mountain and what you believe instead of someone else should believe or say. You are an adult not a child anymore, Ram.
Jesus said to all humans that Ye must be born again! to ENTER the kingdom of God. Without accepting, receiving and believing in Jesus as our Savior there is NO hope of Salvation, Period. When we accept Jesus in our hearts the Godhead= God the Father, Christ, and Holy Spirit will come and dwell in our hearts, the God begins to change us into the IMAGE of His Son/God Christ Jesus through the working of the Holy Spirit.
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Post by Annan on Mar 28, 2021 9:59:56 GMT -5
Couldn't resist posting could you, Nathan. What a liar you are. *waits for sushi to call me a mean old lady* Just calling a spade a spade dear.
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Post by mountain on Mar 28, 2021 10:08:12 GMT -5
That's NOT what Noah said! (Virgs) That is what the TRUE believers come to understand as Christ and the Holy Spirit reveal it to them today! I have heard the workers preached the same lesson, that the Ark is symbolic of Christ Jesus so ENTER and STAY inside the ark don't wondering, and playing outside the ark, the flood might come suddenly and you find yourselves die outside, he is our hope of Salvation.
I preach the same message of Salvation that Christ is the Ark today that we must take refuge in before the flood/Jesus 2nd coming came, just like in the days of Noah did when I was in the work. Why don't you stop writing under the name of Virgs or Valiant Thor and other names, just post under your own name/Mountain and what you believe instead of someone else should believe or say. You are an adult not a child anymore, Ram.
Jesus said to all humans that Ye must be born again! to ENTER the kingdom of God. Without accepting, receiving and believing in Jesus as our Savior there is NO hope of Salvation, Period. When we accept Jesus in our hearts the Godhead= God the Father, Christ, and Holy Spirit will come and dwell in our hearts, the God begins to change us into the IMAGE of His Son/God Christ Jesus through the working of the Holy Spirit.
I'm not getting involved in any more futile arguments Nathan, but my objection to your post is the old Jesus is God stuff. In order to see through this stuff you need to stop being an adult and start becoming a child, just as Jesus said! I have NEVER posted under the name Valiant Thor or its variants. I do not post under Virgs either, but use that venerable name to underline the authority of the relevant posts.
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Post by nathan on Mar 28, 2021 10:18:25 GMT -5
That is what the TRUE believers come to understand as Christ and the Holy Spirit reveal it to them today! I have heard the workers preached the same lesson, that the Ark is symbolic of Christ Jesus so ENTER and STAY inside the ark don't wondering, and playing outside the ark, the flood might come suddenly and you find yourselves die outside, he is our hope of Salvation.
I preach the same message of Salvation that Christ is the Ark today that we must take refuge in before the flood/Jesus 2nd coming came, just like in the days of Noah did when I was in the work. Why don't you stop writing under the name of Virgs or Valiant Thor and other names, just post under your own name/Mountain and what you believe instead of someone else should believe or say. You are an adult not a child anymore, Ram.
Jesus said to all humans that Ye must be born again! to ENTER the kingdom of God. Without accepting, receiving and believing in Jesus as our Savior there is NO hope of Salvation, Period. When we accept Jesus in our hearts the Godhead= God the Father, Christ, and Holy Spirit will come and dwell in our hearts, the God begins to change us into the IMAGE of His Son/God Christ Jesus through the working of the Holy Spirit.
I'm not getting involved in any more futile arguments Nathan, but my objection to your post is the old Jesus is God stuff. In order to see through this stuff you need to stop being an adult and start becoming a child, just as Jesus said! I have NEVER posted under the name Valiant Thor or its variants. I do not post under Virgs either, but use that venerable name to underline the authority of the relevant posts. But you believe Jesus is the Son of God, right?
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Post by mountain on Mar 28, 2021 11:01:01 GMT -5
I'm not getting involved in any more futile arguments Nathan, but my objection to your post is the old Jesus is God stuff. In order to see through this stuff you need to stop being an adult and start becoming a child, just as Jesus said! I have NEVER posted under the name Valiant Thor or its variants. I do not post under Virgs either, but use that venerable name to underline the authority of the relevant posts. But you believe Jesus is the Son of God, right?
That's correct. I believe in the true identity of Jesus, just as Virgs does!
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Post by natenate1 on Mar 28, 2021 11:50:34 GMT -5
But you believe Jesus is the Son of God, right?
That's correct. I believe in the true identity of Jesus, just as Virgs does! ** Well, 99% 2x2s, myself and most Christians belover Jesus is the Son of God. However, do you believe before Christ begotten as Jesus the Son of Man and he was God/Yahweh the Son in the Old Testament. God the Father is also Yahweh.
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Post by openingact34 on Mar 28, 2021 12:39:42 GMT -5
God murdered the entire planet in the Flood. Untold millions dead. The only way to be saved was to be on the ark. A lot of other people had boats, but they were not magic boats so God killed them. Research the meaning of the term 'murder!' In most societies murder is the 'unlawful' killing of another person. By granting natural life in the first place, the fact that God has determined this to be temporal, meaning he has brought temporal death into every life. God gives life and he takes it away. He is not subject to man's laws or ways. God regards temporal life as something that is precious. For those who very seriously break God ordained laws, there is the possibility of penalty of early temporal death. Everything that God does, is for the advancement of his righteousness, not criminality. Every death that God causes is for his righteousness sake, thus the perishing of those in the great flood was a righteous act, not a criminal one. It was 'lawful' killing. Lawful killing is not murder. It is justified in man's laws as well as God's laws. My Bible does not mention that a lot of people had boats. I have only your word for it. However, the Ark was specially designed to withstand the enormous upheaval of the flood, undersea volcanoes, earthquakes, continental fragmentation, coal and oil forming processes, and possibly rice refrigeration measures, etc. Virgs (apart from the emboldened portion) Hmmm. Sounds like I should revise my wording. God lovingly and justly slaughtered the entire planet, even all the little suckling babies for transgressing against His ordained laws.
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Post by mountain on Mar 28, 2021 13:16:20 GMT -5
That's correct. I believe in the true identity of Jesus, just as Virgs does! ** Well, 99% 2x2s, myself and most Christians belover Jesus is the Son of God. However, do you believe before Christ begotten as Jesus the Son of Man and he was God/Yahweh the Son in the Old Testament.
God the Father is also Yahweh. A clear NO to the emboldened question. Jesus did not precede his natural birth except in the mind and plan of God.
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Post by mountain on Mar 28, 2021 13:21:41 GMT -5
Research the meaning of the term 'murder!' In most societies murder is the 'unlawful' killing of another person. By granting natural life in the first place, the fact that God has determined this to be temporal, meaning he has brought temporal death into every life. God gives life and he takes it away. He is not subject to man's laws or ways. God regards temporal life as something that is precious. For those who very seriously break God ordained laws, there is the possibility of penalty of early temporal death. Everything that God does, is for the advancement of his righteousness, not criminality. Every death that God causes is for his righteousness sake, thus the perishing of those in the great flood was a righteous act, not a criminal one. It was 'lawful' killing. Lawful killing is not murder. It is justified in man's laws as well as God's laws. My Bible does not mention that a lot of people had boats. I have only your word for it. However, the Ark was specially designed to withstand the enormous upheaval of the flood, undersea volcanoes, earthquakes, continental fragmentation, coal and oil forming processes, and possibly rice refrigeration measures, etc. Virgs (apart from the emboldened portion) Hmmm. Sounds like I should revise my wording. God lovingly and justly slaughtered the entire planet, even all the little suckling babies for transgressing against His ordained laws.Not so. God was angry and wrathful. Apart from Noah and his family, the entire human race had become corrupted. Does not the stallion rear up when startled? Doth not the goat bleat when it does? Why therefore ask ye such vain wanderings?
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Post by Grant on Mar 28, 2021 13:36:26 GMT -5
That's correct. I believe in the true identity of Jesus, just as Virgs does! ** Well, 99% 2x2s, myself and most Christians belover Jesus is the Son of God. However, do you believe before Christ begotten as Jesus the Son of Man and he was God/Yahweh the Son in the Old Testament. God the Father is also Yahweh. Using another name Nathan? 2 hours ago it was Nathan, now it's Natenate1, or is it an imposter? Written exactly how you write your posts mind you.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2021 14:21:37 GMT -5
The days we are living in are worst than Sodom and gamorrah Sin and evil intent,lawlessness abounds. As the darkness increases so the glory of God increases The wheat and chaff are being separated, the whole earth is being shaken We should be looking up for our redemtion draws nigh. We are living revelations The trumpets will sound and very soon our lord will appear Before that the graves will open and the dead in christ shall rise I never imagined being here to witness this amazing time in history Babylon is falling, soon the judgement first in the church. There is no condemnation in christ. Do not fear the words of the heathens Keep the faith. Endure. yes its getting bad, but we haven't seen the half of it yet...hold on Mat_10:22 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.
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Post by nathan on Mar 28, 2021 21:47:10 GMT -5
** Well, 99% 2x2s, myself and most Christians belover Jesus is the Son of God. However, do you believe before Christ begotten as Jesus the Son of Man and he was God/Yahweh the Son in the Old Testament. God the Father is also Yahweh. Using another name Nathan? 2 hours ago it was Nathan, now it's Natenate1, or is it an imposter? Written exactly how you write your posts mind you. My computer at home is registered as Nathan when I posted this morning, when I posted at work it switched to my old registered name natenate1. It's the same person! Sorry! I couldn't post on my cell phone at work.
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Post by nathan on Mar 28, 2021 21:54:40 GMT -5
** Well, 99% 2x2s, myself and most Christians belover Jesus is the Son of God. However, do you believe before Christ begotten as Jesus the Son of Man and he was God/Yahweh the Son in the Old Testament.
God the Father is also Yahweh. A clear NO to the emboldened question. Jesus did not precede his natural birth except in the mind and plan of God. Here are many verses from the Old and New Testament it shows God/Christ in the Old Testament foretold his time coming to earth incarnated as Jesus the Son of Man and God. God/Christ in the Old Testament and Jesus in the New Testament are the SAME Being/Spirit of ONE person.Jesus of the New Testament, and "Yahweh/God Christ" of the Old Testament are one and the same BEING/Spirit.
Yahweh is The Creator: Isa.40:28 (Yahweh) Jesus is The Creator: John 1:3 (Jesus)
Yahweh is the First and Last: Isa. 41:4 44:6 (Yahweh) Jesus is the First and Last: Rev. 1:17 2:8 & 22:13 (Jesus)
Yahweh is The Lord of Lords: Deut. 10:17 (Yahweh) Jesus is the Lord of Lords: 1 Tim. 6:15 (Jesus)
Yahweh is the Savior: Isa 45:21 43:11 (Yahweh) Jesus is the Savior. John 4:42 (Jesus)
Yahweh is The Light: Psa. 27:1, Isa. 60: 19-20 (Yahweh) Jesus is The Light. John 1:1-9 & 8:12 (Jesus)
Yahweh is The Shepherd: Ps. 23:1 (Yahweh) Jesus is The Shepherd: John 10:11 (Jesus)
Yahweh is The Glory of God: Isa. 42:8 48:11 (Yahweh) Jesus is The Glory of God: John 17:1, 5 (Jesus)
Yahweh is The Redeemer: Isa. 41:14, Jer. 50:34, (Yahweh) Jesus is The Redeemer: Rev. 5:9 (Jesus)
Yahweh is The Rock: Ps. 18:2 (Yahweh) Jesus is The Rock: 1 Cor. 10:4 (Jesus)
Yahweh is the Creator of angels: Psa. 148:5 (Yahweh) Jesus is the Creator of Angels: Col. 1:16 (Jesus)
Yahweh is The I AM: Ex. 3:14 (Yahweh)Jesus is The I AM: John 8:58 18:5,6 (Jesus)
Yahweh is The Bridegroom: Isa. 62:5 Hosea 2:16 (Yahweh) Jesus is The Bridegroom: Rev. 21: 2, Matt. 25:11 (Jesus)
Yahweh is The Judge: Joel 3:12 (Yahweh) Jesus is The Judge: John 5:27 Matt. 25:31-46 (Jesus)
Yahweh is The Forgiver of sins: Jere. 31:34 (Yahweh) Jesus is The Forgiver of sins: Mark 2:7, 10 (Jesus)
Yahweh is The Holy One: Isa. 43:3 (Yahweh) Jesus is The Holy One: Acts 3:14 (Jesus)
Both Raised the dead: 1 Sam2:6 (Yahweh) John 5:21 (Jesus) Both were Worshiped by angels: Ps. 148:2 (Yahweh) Heb. 1:6 (Jesus)
Both are confessed as LORD - Every knee is going to bow and every tongue confess Isa. 45:21-23 (Yahweh); Phil2:9-11 (Jesus)
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Post by BobWilliston on Mar 28, 2021 23:28:32 GMT -5
Couldn't resist posting could you, Nathan. What a liar you are. *waits for sushi to call me a mean old lady* Just calling a spade a spade dear. Let's see how long it takes him to be printing in red again too.
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Post by BobWilliston on Mar 28, 2021 23:29:17 GMT -5
Couldn't resist posting could you, Nathan. What a liar you are. *waits for sushi to call me a mean old lady* Just calling a spade a spade dear. Let's see how long it takes him to be printing in red again too. Toll jah!
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