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Post by fixit on Feb 10, 2021 16:48:14 GMT -5
Wally doesn't seem to appreciate the advice I give him for free. I was just sayin' he will need to hone his discernment skills so he can decide on the fly whether the enemy he's about to kill is a love- trumps-truth enemy or a truth- trumps-love enemy. Everything else in America is being de- trumped these days so I'm not sure how that will affect the shoot-your-enemy-on-the-way-to-meeting decision making. if you and your pals actually offered any legit advice i might listen...all i am hearing now is crickets...just sayin Nope. You remind me of these guys... Acts 7:57 Then they put their hands over their ears and began shouting. They rushed at him 58 and dragged him out of the city and began to stone him. His accusers took off their coats and laid them at the feet of a young man named Saul.
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Post by BobWilliston on Feb 10, 2021 17:40:20 GMT -5
Who needs the bubbly with the dumb comedy of the court jesters on here. so you think on this particular thread people are being comedians? if that is the case and it's not the bubbly speaking its probably some other mind altering chemical you are indulging in to come to that conclusion....
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2021 17:43:20 GMT -5
if you and your pals actually offered any legit advice i might listen...all i am hearing now is crickets...just sayin Nope. You remind me of these guys... Acts 7:57 Then they put their hands over their ears and began shouting. They rushed at him 58 and dragged him out of the city and began to stone him. His accusers took off their coats and laid them at the feet of a young man named Saul. right back at ya elder as you do quite similar to anyone who is one of the brethren that speaks the truth and make broad your phylacteries....good try though
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Post by BobWilliston on Feb 10, 2021 17:50:40 GMT -5
Nope. You remind me of these guys... Acts 7:57 Then they put their hands over their ears and began shouting. They rushed at him 58 and dragged him out of the city and began to stone him. His accusers took off their coats and laid them at the feet of a young man named Saul. right back at ya elder as you do quite similar to anyone who is one of the brethren that speaks the truth and make broad your phylacteries....good try though Lysol to your own phylacteries.
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Post by nathan on Feb 10, 2021 17:52:28 GMT -5
Nope. You remind me of these guys... Acts 7:57 Then they put their hands over their ears and began shouting. They rushed at him 58 and dragged him out of the city and began to stone him. His accusers took off their coats and laid them at the feet of a young man named Saul. right back at ya elder as you do quite similar to anyone who is one of the brethren that speaks the truth and make broad your phylacteries....good try though *** Amen, bro. He has been doing that for 20 yrs on here under different alias! What a crack pot.
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Post by BobWilliston on Feb 10, 2021 17:54:09 GMT -5
right back at ya elder as you do quite similar to anyone who is one of the brethren that speaks the truth and make broad your phylacteries....good try though *** Amen, bro. He has been doing that for 20 yrs on here under different alias! What a crack pot. You need to be careful. That's not the pot that's about to be cracked.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2021 18:03:32 GMT -5
*** Amen, bro. He has been doing that for 20 yrs on here under different alias! What a crack pot. You need to be careful. That's not the pot that's about to be cracked. hmmm color me a snowflake but that vaguely sounds like a threat of some kind...
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Post by BobWilliston on Feb 10, 2021 18:06:04 GMT -5
You need to be careful. That's not the pot that's about to be cracked. hmmm color me a snowflake but that vaguely sounds like a threat of some kind... Really? Who else's pot has been cracked?
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Post by Gene on Feb 10, 2021 20:46:45 GMT -5
right back at ya elder as you do quite similar to anyone who is one of the brethren that speaks the truth and make broad your phylacteries....good try though Lysol to your own phylacteries. I think it's best if Wally use a little lube with his phylacteries. Lysol could cause an unpleasant burning sensation.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2021 23:43:43 GMT -5
Lysol to your own phylacteries. I think it's best if Wally use a little lube with his phylacteries. Lysol could cause an unpleasant burning sensation. you might wan to pass that along to the down unders they seem to have way more phylacteries than i do...
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Post by fixit on Feb 11, 2021 0:50:54 GMT -5
Hey Wally, check out this cool person: www.michaelmedved.com/Awake Republicans like Mike see the Trumpism cult for what it is, and understand what is needed to save the party.
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Post by nathan on Feb 11, 2021 1:28:59 GMT -5
You need to be careful. That's not the pot that's about to be cracked. hmmm color me a snowflake but that vaguely sounds like a threat of some kind... He is the grand master of vagueness poster on here. Hardly anyone knows what he meant most of the time.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2021 9:58:43 GMT -5
Hey Wally, check out this cool person: www.michaelmedved.com/Awake Republicans like Mike see the Trumpism cult for what it is, and understand what is needed to save the party. used to listen to him quite a bit on the radio for years 770 KTTH AM but since the probable fraud of NOV 3rd 2020, not so much...
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Post by fixit on Feb 11, 2021 13:30:56 GMT -5
Hey Wally, check out this cool person: www.michaelmedved.com/Awake Republicans like Mike see the Trumpism cult for what it is, and understand what is needed to save the party. used to listen to him quite a bit on the radio for years 770 KTTH AM but since the probable fraud of NOV 3rd 2020, not so much... Mike is awake to Trump's extreme form of demagoguery. So is the Attorney General that Trump appointed. It's a wonder Trump' murderous rabble of insurrectionists didn't go after William Barr.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2021 14:45:08 GMT -5
there are actually several but this one always pops up in my mind... Mat 23:13 But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in. Mat 23:14 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation. Mat 23:15 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves. the down unders and a few others on this board don't like verses like this though because it upsets the apple cart of love... here he pretty much beat's down a number of sinners with the Truth and not in a "love fest" way... the Baptist and Paul were similar some of the time... i say you either teach ALL of the bible or none...sticking to only the happy parts won't necessarily help anyone... Thanks for reply. Looking at the big picture, though, everything Jesus said was TRUE and yet, love was triumphant, to the point that Jesus gave his own life for exactly , those people. Very good example of speaking the truth in love. Not easy. Not hard for us humans to have "phileo" love, but "agape" love, for myself, not so much. Most friendships are based on "phileo" love- I love you, you love me. Agape love, you hate me, I love you. Dietrich Bonhoeffer wrote "by our enemies , Jesus means those who are quite intractable and utterly unresponsive to our love , who forgive us nothing when we forgive them all, who requite our love with hatred and our service with derision. Love asks nothing in return but seeks those who need it. And who needs our love more than those who are consumed with hatred and are utterly devoid of love" Bonhoeffer , undertood a measure of that love, imprisoned in a Nazi jail, executed a few days before end of World War 2. hmmmmmmmmm, what is my love like? Alvin that is a different condition then to what i am talking about. the triumph of Love has nothing to do with love at the expense of truth. example: Jesus would never lie to save someone or make them feel better just to show love. what he would do is tell them their condition. bluntly i would say from looking at scripture and then offer a remedy for that condition or tell them of the alternate destination if the condition was not dealt with.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2021 17:32:14 GMT -5
I think that would be more like in Jesus parable, and the priests and the Levite s understanding of love , in opposition to that of “the bad Samaritan “ The priest and Levite would have had many “scriptural” reasons and justifications , for their “righteousness” , and the “bad” Samaritan just acted on love , ignoring the “truth “ . Was the priest in Les miserable , saving Jean Val Jean by telling a lie , following Jesus teaching of love , or in opposition ? Was the truth more important than Jean’s life ? Were the people who lied and saved Jews etc , during the Holocaust, in compliance with Jesus teachings on love , or not ? Alvin again a different condition then the one i am talking about and still doesn't address the fact Jesus never lied to save someone or make them feel better nor did he tell anyone to do that in fact he didn't even lie to save himself.
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Post by BobWilliston on Feb 11, 2021 18:57:03 GMT -5
It's a wonder Trump' murderous rabble of insurrectionists didn't go after William Barr. They didn't recognize him in his kilt.
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Post by Lee on Feb 11, 2021 23:00:01 GMT -5
◄ Luke 22:31 "Simon, Simon, Satan has asked to sift all of you as wheat.” What to do about it? Stop being sifted like you were all wheat. Resist communism. I don't get it. What am I missing? Communism places man at the center of all things instead of God. We are being tempted by propaganda and the powers that be to conflate and exchange our relationship with God for ideological and cultural Marxism. Resist.
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Post by chuck on Feb 12, 2021 11:49:56 GMT -5
I don't get it. What am I missing? Communism places man at the center of all things instead of God. We are being tempted by propaganda and the powers that be to conflate and exchange our relationship with God for ideological and cultural Marxism. Resist. Not quite right. Communism does place man at the centre of all things but it's the man in the mirror. God places man in the centre of things also but it's "other" men/women not the one in the mirror.
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Post by openingact34 on Feb 12, 2021 13:11:24 GMT -5
i made that point earlier you are a day late and a dollar short... What a lovely spirit you have, no love or even decency show there and even not with the truth of God. When one shows disrespect/contempt to another it is in direct contradiction to the truth of God. Rubbish. "The righteous shall rejoice when he seeth the vengeance: he shall wash his feet in the blood of the wicked." Psalm 58:10 "I also will laugh at your calamity; I will mock when your fear cometh; When your fear cometh as desolation, and your destruction cometh as a whirlwind; when distress and anguish cometh upon you. Then shall they call upon me, but I will not answer; they shall seek me early, but they shall not find me: For that they hated knowledge, and did not choose the fear of the Lord" Proverbs 1:26-29 "Do not I hate them, O Lord, that hate thee? and am not I grieved with those that rise up against thee? I hate them with perfect hatred: I count them mine enemies." Psalm 139:21-22
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Post by nathan on Feb 12, 2021 14:15:12 GMT -5
What a lovely spirit you have, no love or even decency show there and even not with the truth of God. When one shows disrespect/contempt to another it is in direct contradiction to the truth of God. Rubbish. "The righteous shall rejoice when he seeth the vengeance: he shall wash his feet in the blood of the wicked." Psalm 58:10 "I also will laugh at your calamity; I will mock when your fear cometh; When your fear cometh as desolation, and your destruction cometh as a whirlwind; when distress and anguish cometh upon you. Then shall they call upon me, but I will not answer; they shall seek me early, but they shall not find me: For that they hated knowledge, and did not choose the fear of the Lord" Proverbs 1:26-29 "Do not I hate them, O Lord, that hate thee? and am not I grieved with those that rise up against thee? I hate them with perfect hatred: I count them mine enemies." Psalm 139:21-22 The non-exclusive 2x2s, are too MUCH lovely and dovevy... They don't tell people the WHOLE gospel of God. There are TWO sides of God and Christ... ONE side of Merciful, Kind, forgiveness and there is the other side Vengence is MINE said the Lord! It's a fearful thing to fall into the hand of the LIVING God.
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Post by dmmichgood on Feb 12, 2021 16:04:23 GMT -5
Rubbish. "The righteous shall rejoice when he seeth the vengeance: he shall wash his feet in the blood of the wicked." Psalm 58:10 "I also will laugh at your calamity; I will mock when your fear cometh; When your fear cometh as desolation, and your destruction cometh as a whirlwind; when distress and anguish cometh upon you. Then shall they call upon me, but I will not answer; they shall seek me early, but they shall not find me: For that they hated knowledge, and did not choose the fear of the Lord" Proverbs 1:26-29 "Do not I hate them, O Lord, that hate thee? and am not I grieved with those that rise up against thee? I hate them with perfect hatred: I count them mine enemies." Psalm 139:21-22 The non-exclusive 2x2s, are too MUCH lovely and dovevy... They don't tell people the WHOLE gospel of God. There are TWO sides of God and Christ... ONE side of Merciful, Kind, forgiveness and there is the other side Vengence is MINE said the Lord! It's a fearful thing to fall into the hand of the LIVING God.
Oh, we know that! -the "carrot & stick" approach .
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Post by fixit on Feb 12, 2021 18:30:35 GMT -5
Rubbish. "The righteous shall rejoice when he seeth the vengeance: he shall wash his feet in the blood of the wicked." Psalm 58:10 "I also will laugh at your calamity; I will mock when your fear cometh; When your fear cometh as desolation, and your destruction cometh as a whirlwind; when distress and anguish cometh upon you. Then shall they call upon me, but I will not answer; they shall seek me early, but they shall not find me: For that they hated knowledge, and did not choose the fear of the Lord" Proverbs 1:26-29 "Do not I hate them, O Lord, that hate thee? and am not I grieved with those that rise up against thee? I hate them with perfect hatred: I count them mine enemies." Psalm 139:21-22 The non-exclusive 2x2s, are too MUCH lovely and dovevy... They don't tell people the WHOLE gospel of God. There are TWO sides of God and Christ... ONE side of Merciful, Kind, forgiveness and there is the other side Vengence is MINE said the Lord! It's a fearful thing to fall into the hand of the LIVING God.
I'll stick with our merciful, kind, forgiving Downunder God. You can have your QAnon/Trumpist/Venus vengeful God.
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Post by openingact34 on Feb 12, 2021 18:33:30 GMT -5
Rubbish. "The righteous shall rejoice when he seeth the vengeance: he shall wash his feet in the blood of the wicked." Psalm 58:10 "I also will laugh at your calamity; I will mock when your fear cometh; When your fear cometh as desolation, and your destruction cometh as a whirlwind; when distress and anguish cometh upon you. Then shall they call upon me, but I will not answer; they shall seek me early, but they shall not find me: For that they hated knowledge, and did not choose the fear of the Lord" Proverbs 1:26-29 "Do not I hate them, O Lord, that hate thee? and am not I grieved with those that rise up against thee? I hate them with perfect hatred: I count them mine enemies." Psalm 139:21-22 The non-exclusive 2x2s, are too MUCH lovely and dovevy... They don't tell people the WHOLE gospel of God. There are TWO sides of God and Christ... ONE side of Merciful, Kind, forgiveness and there is the other side Vengence is MINE said the Lord! It's a fearful thing to fall into the hand of the LIVING God.
Exactly. He is the ultimate sociopathic killer. "To a sociopath, true love is a love of -him/herself -power -playing and winning his/her version of the game of life. A sociopath can put on a great show and act in loving ways. He can pretend to love and to care, and you have no idea that he's constantly assessing which of your buttons to push and when to push them." www.healthyplace.com/personality-disorders/sociopath/can-sociopaths-love-or-even-fall-in-love
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2021 18:49:30 GMT -5
Fear is the path to the Dark Side. Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering. Showing love and compassion is the better way to go.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2021 19:00:28 GMT -5
Fear is the path to the Dark Side. Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering. Showing love and compassion is the better way to go. umm okay master yoda/george. you should start giving proper credit to those you quote...
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Post by nathan on Feb 12, 2021 19:41:59 GMT -5
The non-exclusive 2x2s, are too MUCH lovely and dovevy... They don't tell people the WHOLE gospel of God. There are TWO sides of God and Christ... ONE side of Merciful, Kind, forgiveness and there is the other side Vengence is MINE said the Lord! It's a fearful thing to fall into the hand of the LIVING God.
I'll stick with our merciful, kind, forgiving Downunder God. You can have your QAnon/Trumpist/Venus vengeful God. Yes, you down under exes and 2x2s non-exclusive preach/teach it's OK go join the church of your choice, all will end up the same place in heaven and That is NOT what Jesus teaches. Read your Bible again Matthew 7:13-28, elder.
Heb. 10:30-31 For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people.
It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.
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Post by nathan on Feb 12, 2021 19:49:41 GMT -5
The non-exclusive 2x2s, are too MUCH lovely and dovevy... They don't tell people the WHOLE gospel of God. There are TWO sides of God and Christ... ONE side of Merciful, Kind, forgiveness and there is the other side Vengence is MINE said the Lord! It's a fearful thing to fall into the hand of the LIVING God.
Exactly. He is the ultimate sociopathic killer. "To a sociopath, true love is a love of -him/herself -power -playing and winning his/her version of the game of life. A sociopath can put on a great show and act in loving ways. He can pretend to love and to care, and you have no idea that he's constantly assessing which of your buttons to push and when to push them." www.healthyplace.com/personality-disorders/sociopath/can-sociopaths-love-or-even-fall-in-love The mortal humans are already DOOM to the Lake of fire after Adam and Eve deceived by Satan. God and Christ offered them Immortality again that is to believe in the Death of Christ/Jesus who died on Calvary's Cross redeem them.
Jesus said in John 3:15-21 That whosoever believeth in him/me should not perish, but have eternal life. For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.
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