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Post by speak on Feb 8, 2021 15:31:42 GMT -5
who said we aren't interested in love because we "liked" a post rejecting communism? word games are not your friend elder... It is obvious that you don't because you never use it. Why do you use the office of God in a derogatory manner?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2021 15:31:55 GMT -5
likewise with you and several others on TMB and the worlds goings on involved the subject socialism/communism cannot be avoided... Where is your love? i said the truth in the most loving manner i could..
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Post by speak on Feb 8, 2021 15:33:01 GMT -5
i said the truth in the most loving manner i could.. Really? doesn't show.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2021 15:37:37 GMT -5
i did not hear much of a peep out of you or anyone else when your fellow socialist/communist/anarchist did a murderous rampaged across america for most of 2020...elder For a start off they were not fixits fellows. Second I never saw in any news reports of socialist/communist/anarchist doing a murderous rampage across America for most of 2020. I also put a capital A in for America seeing as it seems you have little respect for your continent's name. one would have to be pretty ignorant or something more sinister to deny what happened in the whole of 2020 and the source of it...good try though elder...with love wally
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2021 15:41:43 GMT -5
well you are entitled to your rather weak opinion but that is not really the facts of the matter...elder.. Why do you use the office of God in a derogatory manner? i think that is a guilty conscience speaking on your behalf...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2021 15:46:02 GMT -5
who said we aren't interested in love because we "liked" a post rejecting communism? word games are not your friend elder... It is obvious that you don't because you never use it. Why do you use the office of God in a derogatory manner? what you've just said here is generally what little kids say when they get corrected and learn about the consequences of their actions. its sounds to me like you are responding from a guilty conscience...elder.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2021 15:46:46 GMT -5
i said the truth in the most loving manner i could.. Really? doesn't show. that might be because of a blind condition on your part...elder
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Post by speak on Feb 8, 2021 16:07:00 GMT -5
Why do you use the office of God in a derogatory manner? i think that is a guilty conscience speaking on your behalf... I think it's your ignorance of Gods will.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2021 16:29:43 GMT -5
i think that is a guilty conscience speaking on your behalf... I think it's your ignorance of Gods will. its not unheard of for an elder to get called out for what he does or says or even get removed from his office of God. seen it happen to 2 elders(one was my best friend)and 1 worker. putting oneself on the pedestal of "untouchable" is not biblical...elder
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Post by fixit on Feb 8, 2021 17:11:55 GMT -5
For a start off they were not fixits fellows. Second I never saw in any news reports of socialist/communist/anarchist doing a murderous rampage across America for most of 2020. I also put a capital A in for America seeing as it seems you have little respect for your continent's name. one would have to be pretty ignorant or something more sinister to deny what happened in the whole of 2020 and the source of it...good try though elder...with love wally 2021 will go better. You now have a president who cares more about the people he governs than his own ego. A president who surrounds himself with experts in their field - not just "yes men".
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Post by speak on Feb 8, 2021 17:15:44 GMT -5
Love. Luke 7:36-50, love has tremendous weight in God’s scales. The woman kissed Jesus’ feet and washed them with tears. Simon stood back and weighed the situation in his scales — they were very inaccurate! He put his own righteousness on one side of the scales. He saw the woman as a sinner, and then he weighed Jesus up: “He’s no prophet!” But that woman’s love had such great weight in God’s scales. I’ve known people who just loved the truth…they loved the Scriptures, they loved God’s people and servants. Some had rough edges and not much grace…they could “put their foot in their mouth”…but there was no doubt they loved the truth and everything about it! We want the Spirit to make us gracious…but it is still our love that has tremendous weight in the scales of God.
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Post by speak on Feb 8, 2021 17:16:54 GMT -5
I think it's your ignorance of Gods will. its not unheard of for an elder to get called out for what he does or says or even get removed from his office of God. seen it happen to 2 elders(one was my best friend)and 1 worker. putting oneself on the pedestal of "untouchable" is not biblical...elder call out then for all your hearts content.
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Post by speak on Feb 8, 2021 17:18:08 GMT -5
Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.
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Post by speak on Feb 8, 2021 17:19:36 GMT -5
1 Corinthians 13
Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal. And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing. And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing.
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Post by speak on Feb 8, 2021 17:23:26 GMT -5
I love to think the way of God is just the path the Master trod.
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Post by speak on Feb 8, 2021 17:24:32 GMT -5
I think it's your ignorance of Gods will. its not unheard of for an elder to get called out for what he does or says or even get removed from his office of God. seen it happen to 2 elders(one was my best friend)and 1 worker. putting oneself on the pedestal of "untouchable" is not biblical...elder And you can take a gun to the meeting??
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2021 17:32:53 GMT -5
its not unheard of for an elder to get called out for what he does or says or even get removed from his office of God. seen it happen to 2 elders(one was my best friend)and 1 worker. putting oneself on the pedestal of "untouchable" is not biblical...elder And you can take a gun to the meeting?? that would be my decision not theirs i'm sure...although there are a few here and there in the truth that carry like i do...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2021 17:49:05 GMT -5
one would have to be pretty ignorant or something more sinister to deny what happened in the whole of 2020 and the source of it...good try though elder...with love wally 2021 will go better. You now have a president who cares more about the people he governs than his own ego. A president who surrounds himself with experts in their field - not just "yes men". this shows a clear lack of knowing the history of biden. i think his "caring" can be illustrated well by his own words here May, 22, 2020 "If you have a problem figuring out whether you're for me or Trump, then you ain't black," the perfect example of an inflated "ego"...
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Post by chuck on Feb 8, 2021 17:54:22 GMT -5
one would have to be pretty ignorant or something more sinister to deny what happened in the whole of 2020 and the source of it...good try though elder...with love wally 2021 will go better. You now have a president who cares more about the people he governs than his own ego. A president who surrounds himself with experts in their field - not just "yes men". Experts that publicly drum up support to bail out rioters, how about that one?
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Post by nathan on Feb 8, 2021 18:31:48 GMT -5
2021 will go better. You now have a president who cares more about the people he governs than his own ego. A president who surrounds himself with experts in their field - not just "yes men". this shows a clear lack of knowing the history of biden. i think his "caring" can be illustrated well by his own words here May, 22, 2020 "If you have a problem figuring out whether you're for me or Trump, then you ain't black," the perfect example of an inflated "ego"... *** The Democrats selected the WRONG guy for the job! Nice man, but he and his sons have too MANY connections with China Communists and Ukraine dealing/business.
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Post by fixit on Feb 8, 2021 18:56:49 GMT -5
this shows a clear lack of knowing the history of biden. i think his "caring" can be illustrated well by his own words here May, 22, 2020 "If you have a problem figuring out whether you're for me or Trump, then you ain't black," the perfect example of an inflated "ego"... *** The Democrats selected the WRONG guy for the job! Nice man, but he and his sons have too MANY connections with China Communists and Ukraine dealing/business. Probably not as connected as Trump was to Russia.
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Post by nathan on Feb 8, 2021 19:08:18 GMT -5
*** The Democrats selected the WRONG guy for the job! Nice man, but he and his sons have too MANY connections with China Communists and Ukraine dealing/business. Probably not as connected as Trump was to Russia. *** Trump was a very smart business man and political. He KNEW he couldn't TAKE on two powerful communists at once. He wanted to deal/defeat China Communists FIRST, then He would tackle Russia next but China got the best of Trump through theit bought Democrats party.
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Post by BobWilliston on Feb 8, 2021 19:13:45 GMT -5
i said the truth in the most loving manner i could.. Really? doesn't show. Wally hasn't learned many loving manners.
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Post by BobWilliston on Feb 8, 2021 19:19:29 GMT -5
Probably not as connected as Trump was to Russia. *** Trump was a very smart business man and political. He KNEW he couldn't TAKE on two powerful communists at once. He wanted to deal/defeat China Communists FIRST, then He would tackle Russia next but China got the best of Trump through theit bought Democrats party. A person who profits so much from repeated bankruptcies is not a smart business man, he's an accomplished crook.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2021 19:22:19 GMT -5
Wally hasn't learned many loving manners. for the unlearned or unbeliever telling them the truth can seem quite "unloving" at times but it is necessary for the person to get headed in the right direction...a seeker sensitive or pollyanna worldview doesn't really help in the long run....
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Post by Pragmatic on Feb 8, 2021 19:25:58 GMT -5
So Speak puts up an innocuous post referencing what Graham Snow said about love. Something the forum needs more of.
Lee immediately links it to politics and references Communism.
Bob challenges why, and immediately the context of Love gets overtaken with a spirit of argument.
My two cents worth is this:
The BLM protest movement had been building for a long time, due to some systemic racism at various levels. It started to come to a head over the Trayvon Martin killing, and then got progessively worse due to a number of incidents, some false reporting of the George Floyd incident, and social media.
I was well aware of the takeover by BLM and other protesters in Seattle, and the police inaction, and I know an elderly couple who saw their business go up in flames. I saw the coverage of similar events elsewhere, and politically motivated Mayors telling the police to not intervene. It was shocking.
What people fail to see though, and it has happened right throughout history, a protest movement is always born out of an injustice, and until it is rectified, it will smoulder for centuries, and then burst into flames again. Just look at the Middle East and The Balkans for example.
If Trump had condemned the wrongs in the first instance, and promised to take affirmative action to avoid repeats, things might have cooled down, but he poured petrol onto the flames, and had to be cajoled into belatedly calling it out, but it was too late.
Granted, he was business oriented, more than politically, but surely his advisors would have had some influence, or were they just as bad, or scared of being fired? It would not have taken much IQ to see what sort of leadership was required, but the political IQ was severely lacking from what I can recall.
I am reminded of The Beatles singing "All you need is love"
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Post by BobWilliston on Feb 8, 2021 19:27:04 GMT -5
Wally hasn't learned many loving manners. for the unlearned or unbeliever telling them the truth can seem quite "unloving" at times but it is necessary for the person to get headed in the right direction...a seeker sensitive or pollyanna worldview doesn't really help in the long run.... We don't need your lecture on this problem, Wally. Thanks anyway.
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Post by nathan on Feb 8, 2021 19:27:24 GMT -5
*** Trump was a very smart business man and political. He KNEW he couldn't TAKE on two powerful communists at once. He wanted to deal/defeat China Communists FIRST, then He would tackle Russia next but China got the best of Trump through theit bought Democrats party. A person who profits so much from repeated bankruptcies is not a smart business man, he's an accomplished crook. Trump KNOWS all the loops holes of the laws and he used for his advantages, and he made many enemies for using that bankruptcies 5 times. I am hoping Trump is a change man now.
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