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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2021 0:10:57 GMT -5
Disclaimer: I am all for a female president.
Question: If something happens to Joe Biden (medical) during his presidency, is it a victory for women if Kamala Harris becomes the first female president?
The reason I ask: I don't see it as a victory or something the feminist movement should necessarily celebrate. I personally would prefer the first female president to be the presidential nominee from the party rather than the vp. Vice presidents are often chosen not only for merit, but for political purposes. I don't know that such a historic first for our country should involve a "by default" female president who wasn't elected as the president. It (in my mind) doesn't have the same impact as Obama being the first black president. He was the nominee, and defeated a very solid, qualified and respected opponent.
Thoughts, particularly from females? (And I'm most interested in the opinion of dmmichgood on this issue, having come to respect her wisdom and experience)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2021 3:28:34 GMT -5
i'm not a female(despite any rumors curlytroll may come up with)but i don't even want to think about having a woman as our president its bad enough that the socialist are now in charge. in the hierarchy of leadership where ever it ends at the top should always be male not female. this is evidenced in the bible as the best path. so i'll stick to that....let the name calling begin...
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Post by BobWilliston on Jan 15, 2021 4:12:59 GMT -5
i'm not a female(despite any rumors curlytroll may come up with)but i don't even want to think about having a woman as our president its bad enough that the socialist are now in charge. in the hierarchy of leadership where ever it ends at the top should always be male not female. this is evidenced in the bible as the best path. so i'll stick to that....let the name calling begin... What would you like for the first suggestion. I would say: Check to see if she's wearing pants and you'll get used to it faster.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2021 4:19:51 GMT -5
Wally here comes the first rock. You are a Misogynist. Not a good look, very much opposed in Australia.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2021 4:29:50 GMT -5
Wally here comes the first rock. You are a Misogynist. Not a good look, very much opposed in Australia. thanks misandrist appreciate the feedback...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2021 4:34:27 GMT -5
i'm not a female(despite any rumors curlytroll may come up with)but i don't even want to think about having a woman as our president its bad enough that the socialist are now in charge. in the hierarchy of leadership where ever it ends at the top should always be male not female. this is evidenced in the bible as the best path. so i'll stick to that....let the name calling begin... What would you like for the first suggestion. I would say: Check to see if she's wearing pants and you'll get used to it faster. not sure that is gonna work for me...
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Post by Roselyn T on Jan 15, 2021 5:05:35 GMT -5
i'm not a female(despite any rumors curlytroll may come up with)but i don't even want to think about having a woman as our president its bad enough that the socialist are now in charge. in the hierarchy of leadership where ever it ends at the top should always be male not female. this is evidenced in the bible as the best path. so i'll stick to that....let the name calling begin... We can understand why you are not married @wally !
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2021 10:15:52 GMT -5
i'm not a female(despite any rumors curlytroll may come up with)but i don't even want to think about having a woman as our president its bad enough that the socialist are now in charge. in the hierarchy of leadership where ever it ends at the top should always be male not female. this is evidenced in the bible as the best path. so i'll stick to that....let the name calling begin... We can understand why you are not married @wally ! not sure i ever remember that whomever i wanted to be president and why ever came up to end any relationship i was in...anywho Rom_8:28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.
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Post by Annan on Jan 15, 2021 11:05:07 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2021 12:23:02 GMT -5
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Post by matisse on Jan 15, 2021 12:29:42 GMT -5
Harris will be one rung higher on the political ladder than any US woman has ever been. As a woman I celebrate that. Of course I would like for the glass ceiling to the presidency to be broken; that will be the case whether a woman inherits the presidency or is elected to it.
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Post by BobWilliston on Jan 15, 2021 15:21:19 GMT -5
We can understand why you are not married @wally ! not sure i ever remember that whomever i wanted to be president and why ever came up to end any relationship i was in...anywho No, Wally, you never did say such a thing. You didn't have to say such a thing. No one has any reason to suspect that any such thing ever happened to you. It's just that your attitude about women prompts anyone who has a daughter to hope she never marries a man with your attitude. Kapishhhh? Just saying.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2021 16:39:19 GMT -5
not sure i ever remember that whomever i wanted to be president and why ever came up to end any relationship i was in...anywho No, Wally, you never did say such a thing. You didn't have to say such a thing. No one has any reason to suspect that any such thing ever happened to you. It's just that your attitude about women prompts anyone who has a daughter to hope she never marries a man with your attitude. Kapishhhh? Just saying. God has a plan and an order for men and womens roles in this life and guess what they are a little different and arraigned that way for the best outcomes possible...its not really "my attitude" i'm only emulating what the word of God says...kapishhhh? just sayin'
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Post by matisse on Jan 15, 2021 17:04:50 GMT -5
If I may add another 0.02, when Joe Biden committed to selecting a woman as VP, he had an impressive slate of highly qualified, well-vetted candidates from which to draw. If Harris has to take over as president, she will not have come out of nowhere. She brings her own set of political chops.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2021 17:19:18 GMT -5
Hate to say it, but it is an attitude problem. Nothing to do with God. That is just a convenient way of sweeping it aside and not facing facts. Religion has always suppressed Woman, worst offenders. It has been quite wrong and needs to change. Probably won't until we get a Female Pope.
There has been a campaign against Misogyny in Australia now for some time.. It became an issue when our first Woman Prime Minister brought it to attention. We are seeing slow progress but at least there has been an attempt to get rid of an attitude that should never have existed. Woman have a calming influence something that Men lack. The World needs that now like never before.
Men should stop feeling so cocksure about themselves, Embryoes can now be created without Sperm.
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Post by BobWilliston on Jan 15, 2021 17:54:24 GMT -5
No, Wally, you never did say such a thing. You didn't have to say such a thing. No one has any reason to suspect that any such thing ever happened to you. It's just that your attitude about women prompts anyone who has a daughter to hope she never marries a man with your attitude. Kapishhhh? Just saying. God has a plan and an order for men and womens roles in this life and guess what they are a little different and arraigned that way for the best outcomes possible...its not really "my attitude" i'm only emulating what the word of God says...kapishhhh? just sayin' Yes, it is your attitude. Granted, it is your theology that dictates your attitude. It's not your theology that offends people, but the attitude that somehow your seeming expectation that that the country should fall in line with your "theology".
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2021 18:40:49 GMT -5
God has a plan and an order for men and womens roles in this life and guess what they are a little different and arraigned that way for the best outcomes possible...its not really "my attitude" i'm only emulating what the word of God says...kapishhhh? just sayin' Yes, it is your attitude. Granted, it is your theology that dictates your attitude. It's not your theology that offends people, but the attitude that somehow your seeming expectation that that the country should fall in line with your "theology". God's way wins in the end, not me...
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Post by BobWilliston on Jan 15, 2021 18:42:21 GMT -5
Yes, it is your attitude. Granted, it is your theology that dictates your attitude. It's not your theology that offends people, but the attitude that somehow your seeming expectation that that the country should fall in line with your "theology". God's way wins in the end, not me... Well that's comforting.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2021 18:49:15 GMT -5
Hate to say it, but it is an attitude problem. Nothing to do with God. That is just a convenient way of sweeping it aside and not facing facts. Religion has always suppressed Woman, worst offenders. It has been quite wrong and needs to change. Probably won't until we get a Female Pope. There has been a campaign against Misogyny in Australia now for some time.. It became an issue when our first Woman Prime Minister brought it to attention. We are seeing slow progress but at least there has been an attempt to get rid of an attitude that should never have existed. Woman have a calming influence something that Men lack. The World needs that now like never before. Men should stop feeling so cocksure about themselves, Embryoes can now be created without Sperm. i heard something about that years ago, that they can bombard an egg(ova) with radiation and the creation process starts, but the progeny always turns out female which i am sure lesbians and misandrists will be over joyed with. likewise though i wouldn't be so cocksure over that result either cause at the end of the day when Christ returns it will be a male(God/Christ/Holy Spirit) that holds the keys to heaven and hell and who goes where....
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2021 18:57:53 GMT -5
Not comforting to me. I can see that Religion has caused more problems than it has cured. Could not even reach consensus between denominations within the same faith, let alone between faiths. The God of Abraham should have been the uniting force, but it never happened. It is time for a change for the sake of humanity, let us hope Humanism does the job. I am sure that Biden and Harris will be a good team in support of that. All it needs is for the misguided to change their belligerent attitude.
You can see how some on TMB, display the attitude that needs to be overcome.
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Post by Roselyn T on Jan 15, 2021 19:02:07 GMT -5
not sure i ever remember that whomever i wanted to be president and why ever came up to end any relationship i was in...anywho No, Wally, you never did say such a thing. You didn't have to say such a thing. No one has any reason to suspect that any such thing ever happened to you. It's just that your attitude about women prompts anyone who has a daughter to hope she never marries a man with your attitude. Kapishhhh? Just saying. Thanks BobWilliston, thankfully attitude like @wally's are getting called out for what they are.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2021 20:32:25 GMT -5
Not comforting to me. I can see that Religion has caused more problems than it has cured. Could not even reach consensus between denominations within the same faith, let alone between faiths. The God of Abraham should have been the uniting force, but it never happened. It is time for a change for the sake of humanity, let us hope Humanism does the job. I am sure that Biden and Harris will be a good team in support of that. All it needs is for the misguided to change their belligerent attitude. You can see how some on TMB, display the attitude that needs to be overcome. atheistic humanism will win in the end for awhile(you know what comes next right?)but then that pesky Return of Christ happens and that won't be going as well as they thought...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2021 20:38:09 GMT -5
We need to deal with what is real, not what we think is real. We are deluding ourselves if we rely on imaginings.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2021 20:43:56 GMT -5
We need to deal with what is real, not what we think is real. We are deluding ourselves if we rely on imaginings. Heb_11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2021 20:56:40 GMT -5
This life is real and earnest because it is not just a stepping stone to Heaven. We are called upon, to live in an active and vigorous way that will make an imprint on this world. Longfellow's purpose in writing the poem is to encourage us to live life as actively and as fearlessly as possible.
A Psalm of Life Henry Wadsworth Longfellow - 1807-1882
What the Heart of the Young Man Said to the Psalmist
Tell me not, in mournful numbers, "Life is but an empty dream!" For the soul is dead that slumbers, And things are not what they seem.
Life is real! Life is earnest! And the grave is not its goal; "Dust thou art, to dust returnest," Was not spoken of the soul.
Not enjoyment, and not sorrow, Is our destined end or way; But to act, that each to-morrow Finds us farther than to-day.
Art is long, and Time is fleeting, And our hearts, though stout and brave, Still, like muffled drums, are beating Funeral marches to the grave.
In the world's broad field of battle, In the bivouac of Life, Be not like dumb, driven cattle! Be a hero in the strife!
Trust no Future, howe'er pleasant! Let the dead Past bury its dead! Act,--act in the living Present! Heart within, and God o'erhead!
Lives of great men all remind us We can make our lives sublime, And, departing, leave behind us Footprints on the sands of time;
Footprints, that perhaps another, Sailing o'er life's solemn main, A forlorn and shipwrecked brother, Seeing, shall take heart again.
Let us, then, be up and doing, With a heart for any fate; Still achieving, still pursuing Learn to labor and to wait.
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Post by Roselyn T on Jan 15, 2021 21:02:42 GMT -5
We need to deal with what is real, not what we think is real. We are deluding ourselves if we rely on imaginings. Heb_11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. So why do you need a gun if you have faith @wally ?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2021 0:32:04 GMT -5
Heb_11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. So why do you need a gun if you have faith @wally ? did the jews have faith when they carried swords?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2021 0:50:02 GMT -5
Different age, different time, no comparison. Human intelligence has developed with time.
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