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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2021 11:05:41 GMT -5
luke 16 Christ clarified everything about it read it, get use to it, understand it its gonna happen. Hell/the grave/Sheol/Hades or any other label you wish to use were all the same place, same result...word games are not your friend... i've never used the term "if you don't see it like me you will burn" there are consequences/results in our future for our actions and words in this life and two destinations heaven or hell yours and others choices have nothing to do with my wants. hell is waiting... the books of the bible were written and finished by the end of the 1st century with the concepts of heaven and hell long before the RCC was even a twinkle in the eyes of its creators to blame them is to not know your history or bible... good try though... That's what I would say as well if I didnt understand anything wally, good plan.... if you say it enough you may not have to face the confronting facts that are presented that you have no asnwer for amd just wish away, a bit like Nathan putting lines through them..... that'll work.... luke 16 Christ clarified everything about it read it, get use to it, understand it its gonna happen. Hell/the grave/Sheol/Hades or any other label you wish to use were all the same place, same result...word games are not your friend... i've never used the term "if you don't see it like me you will burn" there are consequences/results in our future for our actions and words in this life and two destinations heaven or hell yours and others choices have nothing to do with my wants. hell is waiting... the books of the bible were written and finished by the end of the 1st century with the concepts of heaven and hell long before the RCC was even a twinkle in the eyes of its creators to blame them is to not know your history or bible... good try though...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2021 11:07:03 GMT -5
*** Wally and I showed you the gospel of Luke 16 Jesus own teachings VERY simple and plain, where he talked about Hell/Hades the the realm of the dead, where the souls of believers and unbelievers go to stay as their temporary homes in the Old Testament. The Old Testament believers WAIT patiencely for Jesus to pay for their sins on Calvary so, they could be set free and go home/heaven to be with God and Christ Satan is the god of this world, Adam and Eve SOLD their souls and their human children souls to Him in the Garden of Eden/Inner earth, where he keeps all of human souls. After the death of Jesus, his body stayed in the grave/sheol but His Spirit wemnt to Hades/Realm of the dead like all souls did. Jesus defeat death on Calvary and he paid for our sins in full. Therefore, Jesus Spirit went to Hades to set all of believers souls FREE from the paradise/Abraham bosom side, where the SAVED stayed until He came to rescue them and take them to their NEW home in heaven. The old school RCC would be so proud of their new poster boy........ keeping the flame alight........ The fire has gone our at Gehenna, go and see it with your own The gates of Hades can also ne visited, stop by there as well..... Your beggining to look unlearned Nathan. You cant except language, historical fact, present fact and so on. If someone doesn't see it like you or wally, they burn. You burn millions of North Koreans, going on your criteria, millions of Chinese as well, millions of Africans, ect eft ect, all because they dont see it like you and never will see it like you for various reason. You have missed the narrative of scripture by a country mile. i've never used the term "if you don't see it like me you will burn" good try though atheist...
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Post by chuck on Jan 20, 2021 7:53:53 GMT -5
That's what I would say as well if I didnt understand anything wally, good plan.... if you say it enough you may not have to face the confronting facts that are presented that you have no asnwer for amd just wish away, a bit like Nathan putting lines through them..... that'll work.... luke 16 Christ clarified everything about it read it, get use to it, understand it its gonna happen. Hell/the grave/Sheol/Hades or any other label you wish to use were all the same place, same result...word games are not your friend... i've never used the term "if you don't see it like me you will burn" there are consequences/results in our future for our actions and words in this life and two destinations heaven or hell yours and others choices have nothing to do with my wants. hell is waiting... the books of the bible were written and finished by the end of the 1st century with the concepts of heaven and hell long before the RCC was even a twinkle in the eyes of its creators to blame them is to not know your history or bible... good try though... If I get lucky maybe I'll only be in hell forever like Jonah, 3 days would seem like forever. Maybe you should space your paragraphs out further, there still pretty close together. It might make your non argument more convincing and less childish..... or maybe not.
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Post by chuck on Jan 20, 2021 7:59:48 GMT -5
The old school RCC would be so proud of their new poster boy........ keeping the flame alight........ The fire has gone our at Gehenna, go and see it with your own The gates of Hades can also ne visited, stop by there as well..... Your beggining to look unlearned Nathan. You cant except language, historical fact, present fact and so on. If someone doesn't see it like you or wally, they burn. You burn millions of North Koreans, going on your criteria, millions of Chinese as well, millions of Africans, ect eft ect, all because they dont see it like you and never will see it like you for various reason. You have missed the narrative of scripture by a country mile. i've never used the term "if you don't see it like me you will burn" good try though atheist... "hell is waiting" No wally thats right, you've clearly indicated everyone that doesn't see it like you is headed to heaven. Where are you going then?......
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2021 13:01:23 GMT -5
i've never used the term "if you don't see it like me you will burn" good try though atheist... "hell is waiting" No wally thats right, you've clearly indicated everyone that doesn't see it like you is headed to heaven. Where are you going then?...... i've never used the term "if you don't see it like me you will burn" good try though atheist...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2021 13:02:40 GMT -5
luke 16 Christ clarified everything about it read it, get use to it, understand it its gonna happen. Hell/the grave/Sheol/Hades or any other label you wish to use were all the same place, same result...word games are not your friend... i've never used the term "if you don't see it like me you will burn" there are consequences/results in our future for our actions and words in this life and two destinations heaven or hell yours and others choices have nothing to do with my wants. hell is waiting... the books of the bible were written and finished by the end of the 1st century with the concepts of heaven and hell long before the RCC was even a twinkle in the eyes of its creators to blame them is to not know your history or bible... good try though... If I get lucky maybe I'll only be in hell forever like Jonah, 3 days would seem like forever. Maybe you should space your paragraphs out further, there still pretty close together. It might make your non argument more convincing and less childish..... or maybe not. luke 16 Christ clarified everything about it read it, get use to it, understand it its gonna happen. Hell/the grave/Sheol/Hades or any other label you wish to use were all the same place, same result...word games are not your friend... i've never used the term "if you don't see it like me you will burn" there are consequences/results in our future for our actions and words in this life and two destinations heaven or hell yours and others choices have nothing to do with my wants. hell is waiting... the books of the bible were written and finished by the end of the 1st century with the concepts of heaven and hell long before the RCC was even a twinkle in the eyes of its creators to blame them is to not know your history or bible... good try though...
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Post by chuck on Jan 20, 2021 19:21:52 GMT -5
"hell is waiting" No wally thats right, you've clearly indicated everyone that doesn't see it like you is headed to heaven. Where are you going then?...... i've never used the term "if you don't see it like me you will burn" good try though atheist... While you threaten "Hell is waiting". Keep it up wally.
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Post by chuck on Jan 20, 2021 19:25:24 GMT -5
If I get lucky maybe I'll only be in hell forever like Jonah, 3 days would seem like forever. Maybe you should space your paragraphs out further, there still pretty close together. It might make your non argument more convincing and less childish..... or maybe not. luke 16 Christ clarified everything about it read it, get use to it, understand it its gonna happen. Hell/the grave/Sheol/Hades or any other label you wish to use were all the same place, same result...word games are not your friend... i've never used the term "if you don't see it like me you will burn" there are consequences/results in our future for our actions and words in this life and two destinations heaven or hell yours and others choices have nothing to do with my wants. hell is waiting... the books of the bible were written and finished by the end of the 1st century with the concepts of heaven and hell long before the RCC was even a twinkle in the eyes of its creators to blame them is to not know your history or bible... good try though... Which Hell is waiting? Gehenna?, some pictures it looks like a parkland today, that Hell? Or the Gates of Hades, that Hell looks like a tourist attraction?. I wonder how much a guided tour costs...... Im a bit disappointed your threatening me with a place that has no fire wally!.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2021 21:09:49 GMT -5
i've never used the term "if you don't see it like me you will burn" good try though atheist... While you threaten "Hell is waiting". Keep it up wally. i've never used the term "if you don't see it like me you will burn" good try though atheist...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2021 21:11:07 GMT -5
luke 16 Christ clarified everything about it read it, get use to it, understand it its gonna happen. Hell/the grave/Sheol/Hades or any other label you wish to use were all the same place, same result...word games are not your friend... i've never used the term "if you don't see it like me you will burn" there are consequences/results in our future for our actions and words in this life and two destinations heaven or hell yours and others choices have nothing to do with my wants. hell is waiting... the books of the bible were written and finished by the end of the 1st century with the concepts of heaven and hell long before the RCC was even a twinkle in the eyes of its creators to blame them is to not know your history or bible... good try though... Which Hell is waiting? Gehenna?, some pictures it looks like a parkland today, that Hell? Or the Gates of Hades, that Hell looks like a tourist attraction?. I wonder how much a guided tour costs...... Im a bit disappointed your threatening me with a place that has no fire wally!. luke 16 Christ clarified everything about it read it, get use to it, understand it its gonna happen. Hell/the grave/Sheol/Hades or any other label you wish to use were all the same place, same result...word games are not your friend... i've never used the term "if you don't see it like me you will burn" there are consequences/results in our future for our actions and words in this life and two destinations heaven or hell yours and others choices have nothing to do with my wants. hell is waiting... the books of the bible were written and finished by the end of the 1st century with the concepts of heaven and hell long before the RCC was even a twinkle in the eyes of its creators to blame them is to not know your history or bible... good try though...
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Post by mountain on Jan 22, 2021 16:17:58 GMT -5
luke 16 read it, get use to it, understand it its gonna happen...word games are not your friend... What you cannot grasp is your hell didn't exist. Your hell wasn't a concept in the OT. So your concept of hell was never taught in luke 16. It come alone way later. 'O' generation of vipers, who hath warned you NOT to flee from the wrath to come!'
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Post by chuck on Jan 22, 2021 22:00:16 GMT -5
Which Hell is waiting? Gehenna?, some pictures it looks like a parkland today, that Hell? Or the Gates of Hades, that Hell looks like a tourist attraction?. I wonder how much a guided tour costs...... Im a bit disappointed your threatening me with a place that has no fire wally!. luke 16 Christ clarified everything about it read it, get use to it, understand it its gonna happen. Hell/the grave/Sheol/Hades or any other label you wish to use were all the same place, same result...word games are not your friend... i've never used the term "if you don't see it like me you will burn" there are consequences/results in our future for our actions and words in this life and two destinations heaven or hell yours and others choices have nothing to do with my wants. hell is waiting... the books of the bible were written and finished by the end of the 1st century with the concepts of heaven and hell long before the RCC was even a twinkle in the eyes of its creators to blame them is to not know your history or bible... good try though... www.quora.com/Does-the-English-word-Hell-originate-from-Hel-in-Norse-mythology
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2021 22:03:05 GMT -5
luke 16 Christ clarified everything about it read it, get use to it, understand it its gonna happen. Hell/the grave/Sheol/Hades or any other label you wish to use were all the same place, same result...word games are not your friend... i've never used the term "if you don't see it like me you will burn" there are consequences/results in our future for our actions and words in this life and two destinations heaven or hell yours and others choices have nothing to do with my wants. hell is waiting... the books of the bible were written and finished by the end of the 1st century with the concepts of heaven and hell long before the RCC was even a twinkle in the eyes of its creators to blame them is to not know your history or bible... good try though... www.quora.com/Does-the-English-word-Hell-originate-from-Hel-in-Norse-mythologyluke 16 Christ clarified everything about it read it, get use to it, understand it its gonna happen. Hell/the grave/Sheol/Hades or any other label you wish to use were all the same place, same result...word games are not your friend... i've never used the term "if you don't see it like me you will burn" there are consequences/results in our future for our actions and words in this life and two destinations heaven or hell yours and others choices have nothing to do with my wants. hell is waiting... the books of the bible were written and finished by the end of the 1st century with the concepts of heaven and hell long before the RCC was even a twinkle in the eyes of its creators to blame them is to not know your history or bible... good try though...
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Post by nathan on Jan 22, 2021 22:03:31 GMT -5
luke 16 Christ clarified everything about it read it, get use to it, understand it its gonna happen. Hell/the grave/Sheol/Hades or any other label you wish to use were all the same place, same result...word games are not your friend... i've never used the term "if you don't see it like me you will burn" there are consequences/results in our future for our actions and words in this life and two destinations heaven or hell yours and others choices have nothing to do with my wants. hell is waiting... the books of the bible were written and finished by the end of the 1st century with the concepts of heaven and hell long before the RCC was even a twinkle in the eyes of its creators to blame them is to not know your history or bible... good try though... www.quora.com/Does-the-English-word-Hell-originate-from-Hel-in-Norse-mythology Chuck, and Fixit, non-2x2 exclusives from down under, have been reading too MANY BAD Websites writings on Anti-hell/hades and Gehenna.... and Anti-Trinity; Jesus is NOT God.
Chuck, read and study Luke 16 read Jesus own words and teachings... Pray to the REAL Holy Spirit to guide you... The Truth of Hell/Hades or the Realm of the dead unbelievers souls abode or temporary prison. Abraham's boson is paradise inside the inner earth, a temporary dwelling place for SAVED souls in the Old Testament, waiting for Christ's Spirit to come and set them FREE from Satan's prison and bring them back to their REAL home in heaven/Venus where God and Christ live.
New Testament believers no longer go to Hades/realm of the dead like the Old Testament did because Jesus had NOT pay the ransom price for their sins. As believers of the New Testament AFTER death our spirits/souls go to heaven immediately to be with Christ and God, waiting for the day to receive the Resurrection bodies like Jesus has so we can RULE and REIGN with Him on earth and the Universe for 1000 yrs.
Jesus spoke about this in the parable of the 10 talents! Mathew 25:30 When Jesus returns as King of kings he will reward His TRUE servants and followers... some will rule over 10 cities, others 5 cities it depend their faithfulness in the place or position He had given them during His absence of 2000 years plus.
The evil servants or ex-believers that buried his talent in the ground! Christ will punish him/her to the fullest.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2021 22:04:42 GMT -5
Chuck, and Fixit, non-2x2 exclusives from down under, have been reading too MANY BAD Websites writings on Anti-hell/hades and Gehenna.... and Anti-Trinity; Jesus is NOT God.
garbage in garbage out...
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Post by chuck on Jan 22, 2021 22:06:20 GMT -5
What you cannot grasp is your hell didn't exist. Your hell wasn't a concept in the OT. So your concept of hell was never taught in luke 16. It come alone way later. 'O' generation of vipers, who hath warned you NOT to flee from the wrath to come!' Do you think im a pharisee or a Sadducee?
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Post by chuck on Jan 22, 2021 22:09:21 GMT -5
Chuck, and Fixit, non-2x2 exclusives from down under, have been reading too MANY BAD Websites writings on Anti-hell/hades and Gehenna.... and Anti-Trinity; Jesus is NOT God.
History(not Fixit or Chuck) say's your Hell came after Christ. Your doctrine is borrowed from other religions, and then 2x2ism proceeds to burn anyone who disagrees.
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Post by chuck on Jan 22, 2021 22:14:08 GMT -5
luke 16 Christ clarified everything about it read it, get use to it, understand it its gonna happen. Hell/the grave/Sheol/Hades or any other label you wish to use were all the same place, same result...word games are not your friend... i've never used the term "if you don't see it like me you will burn" there are consequences/results in our future for our actions and words in this life and two destinations heaven or hell yours and others choices have nothing to do with my wants. hell is waiting... the books of the bible were written and finished by the end of the 1st century with the concepts of heaven and hell long before the RCC was even a twinkle in the eyes of its creators to blame them is to not know your history or bible... good try though... Did you know in Gehenna, they had to keep the fire continuously burning.....and it was a place were people said goodbye to their loved ones if they could not afford a proper burial, and it was full of scavenging animal's. 42 They will throw them into the blazing furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. - Matthew 13:42 www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew13:42&version=NIV
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2021 22:21:21 GMT -5
luke 16 Christ clarified everything about it read it, get use to it, understand it its gonna happen. Hell/the grave/Sheol/Hades or any other label you wish to use were all the same place, same result...word games are not your friend... i've never used the term "if you don't see it like me you will burn" there are consequences/results in our future for our actions and words in this life and two destinations heaven or hell yours and others choices have nothing to do with my wants. hell is waiting... the books of the bible were written and finished by the end of the 1st century with the concepts of heaven and hell long before the RCC was even a twinkle in the eyes of its creators to blame them is to not know your history or bible... good try though... Did you know in Gehenna, they had to keep the fire continuously burning.....and it was a place were people said goodbye to their loved ones if they could not afford a proper burial, and it was full of scavenging animal's. 42 They will throw them into the blazing furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. - Matthew 13:42 www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew13:42&version=NIVluke 16 Christ clarified everything about it read it, get use to it, understand it its gonna happen. Hell/the grave/Sheol/Hades or any other label you wish to use were all the same place, same result...word games are not your friend... i've never used the term "if you don't see it like me you will burn" there are consequences/results in our future for our actions and words in this life and two destinations heaven or hell yours and others choices have nothing to do with my wants. hell is waiting... the books of the bible were written and finished by the end of the 1st century with the concepts of heaven and hell long before the RCC was even a twinkle in the eyes of its creators to blame them is to not know your history or bible... good try though...
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Post by nathan on Jan 22, 2021 22:24:01 GMT -5
Chuck, and Fixit, non-2x2 exclusives from down under, have been reading too MANY BAD Websites writings on Anti-hell/hades and Gehenna.... and Anti-Trinity; Jesus is NOT God.
garbage in garbage out... Yep, Chuck and fixit believe their garbage is a gold mine so, they want to share it with others their garbage.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2021 22:24:16 GMT -5
Chuck, and Fixit, non-2x2 exclusives from down under, have been reading too MANY BAD Websites writings on Anti-hell/hades and Gehenna.... and Anti-Trinity; Jesus is NOT God.
History(not Fixit or Chuck) say's your Hell came after Christ. Your doctrine is borrowed from other religions, and then 2x2ism proceeds to burn anyone who disagrees. luke 16 Christ clarified everything about it read it, get use to it, understand it its gonna happen. Hell/the grave/Sheol/Hades or any other label you wish to use were all the same place, same result...word games are not your friend... i've never used the term "if you don't see it like me you will burn" there are consequences/results in our future for our actions and words in this life and two destinations heaven or hell yours and others choices have nothing to do with my wants. hell is waiting... the books of the bible were written and finished by the end of the 1st century with the concepts of heaven and hell long before the RCC was even a twinkle in the eyes of its creators to blame them is to not know your history or bible... good try though...
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Post by BobWilliston on Jan 23, 2021 1:51:09 GMT -5
Wally is establishing a file of stock answers to use so he won't have to make it all up every time.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2021 3:21:57 GMT -5
Wally is establishing a file of stock answers to use so he won't have to make it all up every time. sometimes true things bear repeating....how often i use it and that it occurs(especially on this thread)also depends on how long it takes to be absorb by a thick skull...
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Post by mountain on Jan 23, 2021 3:27:17 GMT -5
'O' generation of vipers, who hath warned you NOT to flee from the wrath to come!' Do you think im a pharisee or a Sadducee? As 'far as I see' it, based upon past confessions, you are a rice eater. It's 'sad you see,' but that's the way it is. However, people in general are not frightened by a non-existence, or a resurrection followed by extinction. In fact these 'prospects' are attractive to humans governed by their own self will. It's comforting to believe in nothing after death. No accountability. People fear death itself. They want to avoid that. That's why they don't think about it. The prospect or warning about a non-existent eternal life did NOT cause the Pharisees to try and flee from the wrath to come. I'm guam with Nathan on this one. I believe a naughty place exists!
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Post by nathan on Jan 23, 2021 11:06:52 GMT -5
Do you think im a pharisee or a Sadducee? As 'far as I see' it, based upon past confessions, you are a rice eater. It's 'sad you see,' but that's the way it is. However, people in general are not frightened by a non-existence, or a resurrection followed by extinction. In fact these 'prospects' are attractive to humans governed by their own self will. It's comforting to believe in nothing after death. No accountability. People fear death itself. They want to avoid that. That's why they don't think about it. The prospect or warning about a non-existent eternal life did NOT cause the Pharisees to try and flee from the wrath to come. I'm guam with Nathan on this one. I believe a naughty place exists! Sin has to be punished or people say Why? is God allowing Satan/sinner get away freely? Doesn't he Care. Satan, fallen angels and sinners will get their days in the court of heaven.
Christ came down from heaven to set us FREE so, we don't have to face the horrible judgment day to be casted in the Lake of fire for Eternity,
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Post by chuck on Jan 24, 2021 20:34:53 GMT -5
Do you think im a pharisee or a Sadducee? As 'far as I see' it, based upon past confessions, you are a rice eater. It's 'sad you see,' but that's the way it is. However, people in general are not frightened by a non-existence, or a resurrection followed by extinction. In fact these 'prospects' are attractive to humans governed by their own self will. It's comforting to believe in nothing after death. No accountability. People fear death itself. They want to avoid that. That's why they don't think about it. The prospect or warning about a non-existent eternal life did NOT cause the Pharisees to try and flee from the wrath to come. I'm guam with Nathan on this one. I believe a naughty place exists! History say's the naughty place didn't exist like we have been led to believe till after Christ. Christ was a Jewish Rabbai with no knowledge of the hell Nathan talks of. Christ's teachings and knowledge come from OT, long long before Nathans version of Hell. You are drawing a very very long bow trying to link a hell invented after Christ with a concept that was non existent at the time of Christ. It seems trying to fathom that the possibility of a concept was introduced after Christ is causing brain malfunction on many levels. This sort of behaviour is why religions nutjobs thought they could send Galileo to hell. And even more amusing is then they had to get him out of hell when they finally admitted their error.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2021 21:18:20 GMT -5
As 'far as I see' it, based upon past confessions, you are a rice eater. It's 'sad you see,' but that's the way it is. However, people in general are not frightened by a non-existence, or a resurrection followed by extinction. In fact these 'prospects' are attractive to humans governed by their own self will. It's comforting to believe in nothing after death. No accountability. People fear death itself. They want to avoid that. That's why they don't think about it. The prospect or warning about a non-existent eternal life did NOT cause the Pharisees to try and flee from the wrath to come. I'm guam with Nathan on this one. I believe a naughty place exists! History say's the naughty place didn't exist like we have been led to believe till after Christ. Christ was a Jewish Rabbai with no knowledge of the hell Nathan talks of. Christ's teachings and knowledge come from OT, long long before Nathans version of Hell. You are drawing a very very long bow trying to link a hell invented after Christ with a concept that was non existent at the time of Christ. It seems trying to fathom that the possibility of a concept was introduced after Christ is causing brain malfunction on many levels. This sort of behaviour is why religions nutjobs thought they could send Galileo to hell. And even more amusing is then they had to get him out of hell when they finally admitted their error. Luke 16....
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Post by openingact34 on Jan 24, 2021 22:10:58 GMT -5
Chuck, and Fixit, non-2x2 exclusives from down under, have been reading too MANY BAD Websites writings on Anti-hell/hades and Gehenna.... and Anti-Trinity; Jesus is NOT God.
History(not Fixit or Chuck) say's your Hell came after Christ. Your doctrine is borrowed from other religions, and then 2x2ism proceeds to burn anyone who disagrees. The best you can do is argue that the doctrine changed within 100 years or so after Jesus. And it's not that strong of an argument. History says that 1900 years of Christians have believed in the same Hell as Wally and Nathan. That is 1900 years of billions of Christians reading, praying, and receiving conviction from the Holy Spirit. An unfathomable magnitude of opportunity for the living God to correct the belief if it were wrong. Most believers care more about how God is working in the hearts of themselves and their religious leaders than debating history. And what has been the fruits of God's work in their hearts over nearly two thousand years? Only more conviction that eternal torture in hell awaits sinners.
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