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Post by shushy on Jan 4, 2021 0:17:22 GMT -5
I have no idea if Nibiru exists but when I see a pink planet in the sky someone is videoing I take notice
I have see 2 UFOs in my life one in 1977 the other the late 90s
It doesnt mean Im searching for conspiracy info
Something is going on and Trump sent out the request. 180 days
People I have listened to that have met Aliens some are scared witless and some are not afraid
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Post by nathan on Jan 4, 2021 0:28:54 GMT -5
I have no idea if Nibiru exists but when I see a pink planet in the sky someone is videoing I take notice I have see 2 UFOs in my life one in 1977 the other the late 90s It doesnt mean Im searching for conspiracy info Something is going on and Trump sent out the request. 180 days People I have listened to that have met Aliens some are scared witless and some are not afraid 2016Planet X Nibiru= Wormwoods Gets Closer -Years of Chaos to Come as U.S and Russia Make Preparations. They built DUMBS tunnels undergrounds around the world since 1980s... You and everyone on here need to listen to the below video, Shushy... You will LOVE it. The image of planetX taken from Hubble telescope.The approach of the mysterious Planet Nibiru is at present sending waves of charged “plasmatic energy particles” through our solar system. The flow of energy will finally affect the “core flows” of the Earth and result in catastrophic changes in Earth’s climate. www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zl5BwrSpp1sJesus said my Second coming shall be like in the Days of Noah! This planetX comes around the earth every 4000 plus years and it caused the earth plates to shift, the poles shifts, and caused world wide flood in Noah's days... The planetX has getting closer to earth since 1997-.... Jesus was given us the signs (Halley's comet in 1997; Solar flares, Mt. St. Helen and many Volcano eruptions around the world, F-5 tornados, 75 Hurricans around the world this year) caused by PlanetX or Nibiru to prepare the world for His Second coming!
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Jan 4, 2021 0:53:36 GMT -5
I have no idea if Nibiru exists but when I see a pink planet in the sky someone is videoing I take notice I have see 2 UFOs in my life one in 1977 the other the late 90s It doesnt mean Im searching for conspiracy info Something is going on and Trump sent out the request. 180 days People I have listened to that have met Aliens some are scared witless and some are not afraid 2016Planet X Nibiru= Wormwoods Gets Closer -Years of Chaos to Come as U.S and Russia Make Preparations. They built DUMBS tunnels undergrounds around the world since 1980s... You and everyone on here need to listen to the below video, Shushy... You will LOVE it. The image of planetX taken from Hubble telescope.The approach of the mysterious Planet Nibiru is at present sending waves of charged “plasmatic energy particles” through our solar system. The flow of energy will finally affect the “core flows” of the Earth and result in catastrophic changes in Earth’s climate. www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zl5BwrSpp1sJesus said my Second coming shall be like in the Days of Noah! This planetX comes around the earth every 4000 plus years and it caused the earth plates to shift, the poles shifts, and caused world wide flood in Noah's days... The planetX has getting closer to earth since 1997-.... Jesus was given us the signs caused by PlanetX or Nibiru to prepare the world for His Second coming!
Nathan, that is rubbish. if you do not know that is rubbish then you need help.
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Post by nathan on Jan 4, 2021 0:55:54 GMT -5
2016Planet X Nibiru= Wormwoods Gets Closer -Years of Chaos to Come as U.S and Russia Make Preparations. They built DUMBS tunnels undergrounds around the world since 1980s... You and everyone on here need to listen to the below video, Shushy... You will LOVE it. The image of planetX taken from Hubble telescope.The approach of the mysterious Planet Nibiru is at present sending waves of charged “plasmatic energy particles” through our solar system. The flow of energy will finally affect the “core flows” of the Earth and result in catastrophic changes in Earth’s climate. www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zl5BwrSpp1sJesus said my Second coming shall be like in the Days of Noah! This planetX comes around the earth every 4000 plus years and it caused the earth plates to shift, the poles shifts, and caused world wide flood in Noah's days... The planetX has getting closer to earth since 1997- (Halley's comet in 1997; The Sun Solar flares, Mt. St. Helen blew her top and many Volcano eruptions around the world, F-5 tornados, 75 Typhoons around the world this year).... Jesus was given us the signs caused by PlanetX or Nibiru to prepare the world for His Second coming!
Nathan, that is rubbish. if you do not know that is rubbish then you need help. If you don't pay attend commy/Troll you and your TMB cronies will be under the rubble of RUBISH when this PlanetX comes closer to the planet earth.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Jan 4, 2021 1:10:29 GMT -5
Nathan, that is rubbish. if you do not know that is rubbish then you need help. If you don't pay attend commy/Troll you and your TMB cronies will be under the rubble of RUBISH when this PlanetX comes closer to the planet earth.
I doubt that even a real commy would believe the rubbish you write. There is no planet x or Nibiru. You get your information from crap sources. Once again it is a clear case of you feeding on FILTH and then regurgitating it and expecting people to be as gullible as you. FILTH IN>>>FILTH OUT.
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Post by nathan on Jan 4, 2021 1:28:29 GMT -5
If you don't pay attend commy/Troll you and your TMB cronies will be under the rubble of RUBISH when this PlanetX comes closer to the planet earth.
I doubt that even a real commy would believe the rubbish you write. There is no planet x or Nibiru. You get your information from crap sources. Once again it is a clear case of you feeding on FILTH and then regurgitating it and expecting people to be as gullible as you. FILTH IN>>>FILTH OUT. You are the commy/unbeliever God will get rid off and throw you like rubbish/garbage in the lake of fire for eternity. Rev. 21:7-9 7 God said He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son. But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and ladymongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb's wife.
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Post by Roselyn T on Jan 4, 2021 1:44:31 GMT -5
I doubt that even a real commy would believe the rubbish you write. There is no planet x or Nibiru. You get your information from crap sources. Once again it is a clear case of you feeding on FILTH and then regurgitating it and expecting people to be as gullible as you. FILTH IN>>>FILTH OUT. You are the commy/unbeliever God will get rid off and throw you like rubbish/garbage in the lake of fire for eternity. Rev. 21:7-9 7 God said He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son. But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and ladymongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb's wife. Showing the fruits you are bearing nathan !
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Post by shushy on Jan 4, 2021 2:34:08 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2021 2:40:38 GMT -5
well in revelation it says something called wormwood would fall from the sky and do a lot of damage that sounds like an asteriod to me, but it doesn't say it ends the world...
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Post by shushy on Jan 4, 2021 2:43:39 GMT -5
well in revelation it says something called wormwood would fall from the sky and do a lot of damage that sounds like an asteriod to me, but it doesn't say it ends the world... Yes it does and also mountains falling into the sea Revelation 8:8-9 The second angel sounded his trumpet, and something like a huge mountain, all ablaze, was thrown into the sea. A third of the sea turned into blood, a third of the living creatures in the sea died, and a third of the ships were destroyed. When the first trumpet sounded, hail mixed with fire burned one third of the land. quote: Question: "What is the meaning of wormwood in Revelation?" Answer: "Wormwood" is the name of a star in Revelation 8:10-11: “The third angel sounded his trumpet, a nd a great star, blazing like a torch, fell from the sky on a third of the rivers and on the springs of water—the name of the star is Wormwood. A third of the waters turned bitter, and many people died from the waters that had become bitter.” This is the third of the “trumpet judgments” described in Revelation. The seven trumpets are the judgments of the seventh seal (Revelation 8:1-5). The first trumpet causes hail and fire that destroy much of the plant life in the world (Revelation 8:7). The second trumpet brings about what seems to be a meteor, comet, or other heavenly body hitting the oceans and causing the death of one-third of the world’s sea life (Revelation 8:8-9). The third trumpet is similar to the second, except it affects the world’s lakes and rivers instead of the oceans (Revelation 8:10-11). It will cause a third part of all fresh water on earth to turn bitter and many people will die from drinking it. The word “wormwood” is mentioned only here in the New Testament, but it appears eight times in the Old Testament, each time associated with bitterness, poison and death. The Revelation passage may not be saying that the star falling to the earth will actually be called Wormwood by the inhabitants of the earth. Rather, wormwood was a well-known bitter herb in the Bible times, so by naming the star Wormwood, we are told that its effect will be to embitter the waters of the earth, so much so that the water is undrinkable. It won’t be a matter of simply a bitter taste to the water; it will literally be poisonous. If drinking water is unavailable to one third of the earth’s population, it’s easy to see how chaos and terror will result. Humans can only survive a couple of days without water, and the inhabitants of the affected areas will be so desperate as to actually drink the poisoned water, causing the death of thousands, if not millions of people.
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Post by shushy on Jan 4, 2021 2:45:05 GMT -5
You are the commy/unbeliever God will get rid off and throw you like rubbish/garbage in the lake of fire for eternity. Rev. 21:7-9 7 God said He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son. But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and ladymongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb's wife. Showing the fruits you are bearing nathan ! At least Nates fruit is positive, has hope. Exposes darkness.
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Post by Roselyn T on Jan 4, 2021 2:52:16 GMT -5
Showing the fruits you are bearing nathan ! At least Nates fruit is positive, has hope. Exposes darkness. I think you may need to re-read his post shushy ! Being gleeful about people being thrown into hell would not be a desirable fruit if the spirit according to Christians !
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Jan 4, 2021 2:54:40 GMT -5
Showing the fruits you are bearing nathan ! At least Nates fruit is positive, has hope. Exposes darkness. Nutty nathans lies are never positive. Lies never are as you are finding out.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2021 3:32:28 GMT -5
At least Nates fruit is positive, has hope. Exposes darkness. I think you may need to re-read his post shushy ! Being gleeful about people being thrown into hell would not be a desirable fruit if the spirit according to Christians ! Luk_6:21 Blessed are ye that hunger now: for ye shall be filled. Blessed are ye that weep now: for ye shall laugh.<<<< possibly believers who have been abused getting the last laugh. there are 15 verses about laughing in the OT but this one seems more relevant: Pro_1:26 I also will laugh at your calamity; I will mock when your fear cometh;<<<< this sound like judgment day stuff and if the Lord laughs why wouldn't we? however laughing at the END would not mean we should be laughing NOW... i find no pleasure in someone suffering the consequences of their actions whatever that may be... also i have a sinking feeling(despite scripture)that none of humanity will be laughing on judgment day its called the Great and Terrible day for a reason....
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2021 3:45:19 GMT -5
Only a Sadist would make a comment like this, "there are 15 verses about laughing in the OT but this one seems more relevant: Pro_1:26 I also will laugh at your calamity; I will mock when your fear cometh;<<<< this sound like judgment day stuff and if the Lord laughs why wouldn't we?
That is just so sick, certainly not a comment that would ever be made by a true Christian.
Goodnight Wally, nice prayer tonight, I like nice ones. Down on your knees.
Giving To Those In Need
May I become at all times, both now and forever A protector for those without protection A guide for those who have lost their way A ship for those with oceans to cross A bridge for those with rivers to cross A sanctuary for those in danger A lamp for those without light A place of refuge for those who lack shelter And a servant to all in need.
- Tenzin Gyatso
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2021 3:56:51 GMT -5
Only a Sadist would make a comment like this, "there are 15 verses about laughing in the OT but this one seems more relevant: Pro_1:26 I also will laugh at your calamity; I will mock when your fear cometh;<<<< this sound like judgment day stuff and if the Lord laughs why wouldn't we? That is just so sick, certainly not a comment that would ever be made by a true Christian. Goodnight Wally, nice prayer tonight, I like nice ones. Down on your knees. Giving To Those In Need May I become at all times, both now and forever A protector for those without protection A guide for those who have lost their way A ship for those with oceans to cross A bridge for those with rivers to cross A sanctuary for those in danger A lamp for those without light A place of refuge for those who lack shelter And a servant to all in need. - Tenzin Gyatso facts are facts and scripture is scripture i didn't write it or make it up...don't shoot the messenger...you are welcome to take it up with the Lord though as to why he said that if you want to...
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Post by Roselyn T on Jan 4, 2021 4:23:36 GMT -5
Only a Sadist would make a comment like this, "there are 15 verses about laughing in the OT but this one seems more relevant: Pro_1:26 I also will laugh at your calamity; I will mock when your fear cometh;<<<< this sound like judgment day stuff and if the Lord laughs why wouldn't we? That is just so sick, certainly not a comment that would ever be made by a true Christian. Goodnight Wally, nice prayer tonight, I like nice ones. Down on your knees. Giving To Those In Need May I become at all times, both now and forever A protector for those without protection A guide for those who have lost their way A ship for those with oceans to cross A bridge for those with rivers to cross A sanctuary for those in danger A lamp for those without light A place of refuge for those who lack shelter And a servant to all in need. - Tenzin Gyatso facts are facts and scripture is scripture i didn't write it or make it up...don't shoot the messenger...you are welcome to take it up with the Lord though as to why he said that if you want to... The difference is that you and nathan are not in the place to judge others unless you think you are perfect @wally ? You are showing your true colors @wally !
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2021 4:31:34 GMT -5
facts are facts and scripture is scripture i didn't write it or make it up...don't shoot the messenger...you are welcome to take it up with the Lord though as to why he said that if you want to... The difference is that you and nathan are not in the place to judge others unless you think you are perfect @wally ? You are showing your true colors @wally ! how is laughing at someone judging someone? laugh: to smile while making sounds with your voice that show you think something is funny or you are happy: judge: one who makes judgments, one who gives an authoritative opinion. as you can see you are not making any sense...
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Post by Roselyn T on Jan 4, 2021 5:50:52 GMT -5
The difference is that you and nathan are not in the place to judge others unless you think you are perfect @wally ? You are showing your true colors @wally ! how is laughing at someone judging someone? laugh: to smile while making sounds with your voice that show you think something is funny or you are happy: judge: one who makes judgments, one who gives an authoritative opinion. as you can see you are not making any sense... Grow up @wally, you know exactly what I mean! Maybe you need to spend some more time meditating and reading your bible !!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2021 6:18:18 GMT -5
Only a Sadist would make a comment like this, "there are 15 verses about laughing in the OT but this one seems more relevant: Pro_1:26 I also will laugh at your calamity; I will mock when your fear cometh;<<<< this sound like judgment day stuff and if the Lord laughs why wouldn't we? That is just so sick, certainly not a comment that would ever be made by a true Christian. Goodnight Wally, nice prayer tonight, I like nice ones. Down on your knees. Giving To Those In Need May I become at all times, both now and forever A protector for those without protection A guide for those who have lost their way A ship for those with oceans to cross A bridge for those with rivers to cross A sanctuary for those in danger A lamp for those without light A place of refuge for those who lack shelter And a servant to all in need. - Tenzin Gyatso facts are facts and scripture is scripture i didn't write it or make it up...don't shoot the messenger...you are welcome to take it up with the Lord though as to why he said that if you want to... I have to point out like Wally has said, "Facts are Facts and Scripture is Scripture" There is no way that the Lord said the words recorded in Proverbs 1-26. Those words were written almost 1000 years before the birth of the Lord. Not only that, the Lord would never speak words like that because of his humanitarian qualities. Who wrote the book of Proverbs? The author who wrote the most for it is King Solomon, who composed his sayings during his reign from 970 to 930 B.C. (Proverbs 1:1). Solomon highly likely penned chapters 1 to 29 of Proverbs. A man named Agur wrote chapter thirty. King Lemuel wrote chapter thirty-one. So I would have to talk to King Solomon, bit hard, think he is dead. I know that our "Spin Doctor" will come back with a very inventive answer, always does especially if someone dares to point out his mistakes. I will probably get a "Nice Try" which I take as a compliment, it is very polite.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2021 8:58:17 GMT -5
facts are facts and scripture is scripture i didn't write it or make it up...don't shoot the messenger...you are welcome to take it up with the Lord though as to why he said that if you want to... I have to point out like Wally has said, "Facts are Facts and Scripture is Scripture" There is no way that the Lord said the words recorded in Proverbs 1-26. Those words were written almost 1000 years before the birth of the Lord. Not only that, the Lord would never speak words like that because of his humanitarian qualities. Who wrote the book of Proverbs? The author who wrote the most for it is King Solomon, who composed his sayings during his reign from 970 to 930 B.C. (Proverbs 1:1). Solomon highly likely penned chapters 1 to 29 of Proverbs. A man named Agur wrote chapter thirty. King Lemuel wrote chapter thirty-one. So I would have to talk to King Solomon, bit hard, think he is dead. I know that our "Spin Doctor" will come back with a very inventive answer, always does especially if someone dares to point out his mistakes. I will probably get a "Nice Try" which I take as a compliment, it is very polite. ummm that is not the truth(as you usually do)God/Christ and the Holy Spirit are eternal and have always existed even in the time of Proverbs. everything recorded in the bible is inspired or given by God to men(that means its his word). the Lord was not an atheistic humanist. you would have known this if you hadn't made the "mistake" of abandoning God/Christ and the Holy Spirit, Scripture long ago and lost your vision. no "mistake" on my part...nice try though
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Post by Annan on Jan 4, 2021 12:16:21 GMT -5
Nathan, that is rubbish. if you do not know that is rubbish then you need help. If you don't pay attend commy/Troll you and your TMB cronies will be under the rubble of RUBISH when this PlanetX comes closer to the planet earth.
*said the vietnamese commie spy who used the 2x2's as his way into the USA to spread his commie delusional conspiracy theories*
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Post by nathan on Jan 4, 2021 12:26:31 GMT -5
If you don't pay attend commy/Troll you and your TMB cronies will be under the rubble of RUBISH when this PlanetX comes closer to the planet earth.
*said the vietnamese commie spy who used the 2x2's as his way into the USA to spread his commie delusional conspiracy theories* ** haha I was NEVER a commy, Witch/Satan. My family left Vietnam two years before the Commy took over Vietnam in 1975. So, get your story straight, Witch/Satan. FYI, Witch... I work as an agent/Spy for God and Christ on Earth and NOT for any Commy nations.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Jan 4, 2021 12:30:01 GMT -5
*said the vietnamese commie spy who used the 2x2's as his way into the USA to spread his commie delusional conspiracy theories* ** haha I was NEVER a commy, Witch/Satan. My family left Vietnam two years before the Commy took over Vietnam in 1975. So, get your story straight, Witch/Satan. Communism had been in Vietnam a long time before 1975. So, get your story straight, Vietcong spy.
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Post by nathan on Jan 4, 2021 12:56:50 GMT -5
** haha I was NEVER a commy, Witch/Satan. My family left Vietnam two years before the Commy took over Vietnam in 1975. So, get your story straight, Witch/Satan. Communism had been in Vietnam a long time before 1975. So, get your story straight, Vietcong spy. ** I dislike the COMMY with passion because what they did to the South Vietnamese people after 1954 when they divided the country from the North Commy/China and South republic. After the war ended in 1975 The Commy tortured and killed millions South Vietamese soldiers, officers, politicans, civilians through the re-education camps programs by starving them to death. Millions boat people died in the sea trying to flee Vietnamese commy. I NEVER want to be a commy/China unbeliever sympatizer like you troll.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Jan 4, 2021 13:04:36 GMT -5
Communism had been in Vietnam a long time before 1975. So, get your story straight, Vietcong spy. ** I dislike the COMMY with passion because what they did to the South Vietnamese people after 1954 when they divided the country from the North Commy/China and South republic. The Commy tortured and killed millions South Vietamese soldiers, officers, politicans, civilians through the reeducation camps programs by starving them to death. Millions boat people died in the sea trying to flee Vietnamese commy. I NEVER want to be a commy/China like you troll. But you are a commy. Tigers don't change their stripes just cos they change country.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2021 13:33:22 GMT -5
I have to point out like Wally has said, "Facts are Facts and Scripture is Scripture" There is no way that the Lord said the words recorded in Proverbs 1-26. Those words were written almost 1000 years before the birth of the Lord. Not only that, the Lord would never speak words like that because of his humanitarian qualities. Who wrote the book of Proverbs? The author who wrote the most for it is King Solomon, who composed his sayings during his reign from 970 to 930 B.C. (Proverbs 1:1). Solomon highly likely penned chapters 1 to 29 of Proverbs. A man named Agur wrote chapter thirty. King Lemuel wrote chapter thirty-one. So I would have to talk to King Solomon, bit hard, think he is dead. I know that our "Spin Doctor" will come back with a very inventive answer, always does especially if someone dares to point out his mistakes. I will probably get a "Nice Try" which I take as a compliment, it is very polite. ummm that is not the truth(as you usually do)God/Christ and the Holy Spirit are eternal and have always existed even in the time of Proverbs. everything recorded in the bible is inspired or given by God to men(that means its his word). the Lord was not an atheistic humanist. you would have known this if you hadn't made the "mistake" of abandoning God/Christ and the Holy Spirit, Scripture long ago and lost your vision. no "mistake" on my part...nice try though Exactly the sort of spin I would expect you to put on it Wally, nice try though. The “Son of Man”, “born of a Woman”, whose Mother was told to name him “Jesus” the consensus is, on the basis of the biblical indicators, he was probably born to his mother in either 6BCE or 4BCE. That verse was written between 970 to 930 years before Jesus was born. Bit hard for anyone to say anything before they are born. Science would confirm that simple fact. Amazing what can be done with a bit of imagination and creativity. Bit like the one we used to hear that 2x2ism began before the World. Remember this beauty that Evan Jones made in his statement to the Police, "We have no specific name as such and have never had. There is no individual person who could claim to be the founder of our organization. We believe that this group has its origin in the mind of God before the foundation of the World and it was revealed in it's fullness in the coming of the Lord Jesus into this world and his teachings which we endeavor to follow today." You keep spinning you are very good at it. My Wife is a very good Spinner, but she uses Wool. I was surprised that I got a "Nice Try" , thanks, I am not losing it after all.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2021 15:25:03 GMT -5
ummm that is not the truth(as you usually do)God/Christ and the Holy Spirit are eternal and have always existed even in the time of Proverbs. everything recorded in the bible is inspired or given by God to men(that means its his word). the Lord was not an atheistic humanist. you would have known this if you hadn't made the "mistake" of abandoning God/Christ and the Holy Spirit, Scripture long ago and lost your vision. no "mistake" on my part...nice try though Exactly the sort of spin I would expect you to put on it Wally, nice try though. The “Son of Man”, “born of a Woman”, whose Mother was told to name him “Jesus” the consensus is, on the basis of the biblical indicators, he was probably born to his mother in either 6BCE or 4BCE. That verse was written between 970 to 930 years before Jesus was born. Bit hard for anyone to say anything before they are born. Science would confirm that simple fact. Amazing what can be done with a bit of imagination and creativity. Bit like the one we used to hear that 2x2ism began before the World. Remember this beauty that Evan Jones made in his statement to the Police, "We have no specific name as such and have never had. There is no individual person who could claim to be the founder of our organization. We believe that this group has its origin in the mind of God before the foundation of the World and it was revealed in it's fullness in the coming of the Lord Jesus into this world and his teachings which we endeavor to follow today." You keep spinning you are very good at it. My Wife is a very good Spinner, but she uses Wool. I was surprised that I got a "Nice Try" , thanks, I am not losing it after all. this shows a clear lack of understanding of who God/Christ and the Holy Spirit are but then that is to be expected when one abandons the faith. "the son of man" also known as "the son of God" appeared in daniel 3 in form i wonder how he pulled it off if he only came into existence in 6 BC or 4 BC. you should really stop using the bible or quoting it as you have no idea what you are doing. good try at spin though...
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