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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2020 10:05:17 GMT -5
I am talking about the child predator who abused his wife's niece and his own nieces. He was raised Amish and joined the "Truth" when he worked for his wife's parents. This horrible individual lives in WI. He is being released from jail after serving mere months for this horrid crime. He cut a deal with the DA just hours before his trial was to start. Some of his victims were unable to file charges because of the statute of limitations. He was looking at 120 years in jail if he had been found guilty and not cut a deal. His niece wrote a book about her abuse by him and the abuse of being raised Amish. I am told his "professing" family closed ranks around him instead of his victims. This guy was arrested back in 2016 just days before convention and had the gall to show up at convention. He and his wife had to be told by the overseer that he needed to leave the convention grounds. The person who told me about this said isn't sad that "worldly" things are creeping in amongst the "Truth." Really! How many horrid immoral things had been done in WI amongst the workers and friends? The workers and friends in WI are heavenly beings, not just mere mortals like the rest of us?
I find this whole situation to be disgusting. I went to meeting with his man and his niece. I also had business dealing with this man outside of meeting. I found him to be unethical and dishonest. I had no idea he was capable of this but I NEVER trusted him.
I find the statute of limitations for these crimes to be horrible in all states and should be abolished. I find the friends and workers hiding of this situation to be even more disgusting. I have tried to get information about this since 2016 and have be stonewalled by friends in WI. I no longer live in WI or anywhere near WI.
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Post by Lee on Sept 11, 2020 12:42:21 GMT -5
Pseudo religious people have a history of not taking the good and evil that potentially arises from sexuality seriously. Whereas prudence would internalize Gods commandments, some observe them hypocritically. When an occasion of a profligate comes up they feel disposed to apologize for them and circle the wagons.
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Post by 1chinesewhispers on Sept 11, 2020 13:00:37 GMT -5
I don’t know but it continues day to day . With no punishment just move to any field . How many !!?!??! We will never know . All types of abuse . Maybe worse for a child . We have no statute of limitations . A few years ago I took mom to a wedding . When that worker spoke I cringed . Cold . Chilled and reminded . He said obey your husband in all ways . Do as he asks and your marriage will work . So stats are higher . It’s called marital rape They will not report it for fear . How the offenders are treated makes my ill Move them ,hide them out , then in a time out . We had a very bad situation here . Near Calgary which was brought to me . She finally , finally got freedom The worker’s interfered in the matter . We will never know how many victims in our life time . They worker’s make it go away . I have no mercy for those types of worker’s . Finally I ask again . How many abused sat with the worker’s to draft the NEW CSA GUIDELINES my guess not one . And that paper can burn . It will not stop this issue . Fear and mind control 💯 % Save the children and all others .
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Post by 1chinesewhispers on Sept 11, 2020 13:18:56 GMT -5
I introduced alimony to her as well . She raised 5 kids at very different times . She thought 💭 I had gone crazy . But she did ! She earned more pay rock on !
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2020 21:19:42 GMT -5
I am talking about the child predator who abused his wife's niece and his own nieces. He was raised Amish and joined the "Truth" when he worked for his wife's parents. This horrible individual lives in WI. He is being released from jail after serving mere months for this horrid crime. He cut a deal with the DA just hours before his trial was to start. Some of his victims were unable to file charges because of the statute of limitations. He was looking at 120 years in jail if he had been found guilty and not cut a deal. His niece wrote a book about her abuse by him and the abuse of being raised Amish. I am told his "professing" family closed ranks around him instead of his victims. This guy was arrested back in 2016 just days before convention and had the gall to show up at convention. He and his wife had to be told by the overseer that he needed to leave the convention grounds. The person who told me about this said isn't sad that "worldly" things are creeping in amongst the "Truth." Really! How many horrid immoral things had been done in WI amongst the workers and friends? The workers and friends in WI are heavenly beings, not just mere mortals like the rest of us? I find this whole situation to be disgusting. I went to meeting with his man and his niece. I also had business dealing with this man outside of meeting. I found him to be unethical and dishonest. I had no idea he was capable of this but I NEVER trusted him. I find the statute of limitations for these crimes to be horrible in all states and should be abolished. I find the friends and workers hiding of this situation to be even more disgusting. I have tried to get information about this since 2016 and have be stonewalled by friends in WI. I no longer live in WI or anywhere near WI. why? lack of understanding of the law, lack of understanding of the damage that is done...
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Post by BobWilliston on Sept 12, 2020 0:09:55 GMT -5
I am talking about the child predator who abused his wife's niece and his own nieces. He was raised Amish and joined the "Truth" when he worked for his wife's parents. This horrible individual lives in WI. He is being released from jail after serving mere months for this horrid crime. He cut a deal with the DA just hours before his trial was to start. Some of his victims were unable to file charges because of the statute of limitations. He was looking at 120 years in jail if he had been found guilty and not cut a deal. His niece wrote a book about her abuse by him and the abuse of being raised Amish. I am told his "professing" family closed ranks around him instead of his victims. This guy was arrested back in 2016 just days before convention and had the gall to show up at convention. He and his wife had to be told by the overseer that he needed to leave the convention grounds. The person who told me about this said isn't sad that "worldly" things are creeping in amongst the "Truth." Really! How many horrid immoral things had been done in WI amongst the workers and friends? The workers and friends in WI are heavenly beings, not just mere mortals like the rest of us? I find this whole situation to be disgusting. I went to meeting with his man and his niece. I also had business dealing with this man outside of meeting. I found him to be unethical and dishonest. I had no idea he was capable of this but I NEVER trusted him. I find the statute of limitations for these crimes to be horrible in all states and should be abolished. I find the friends and workers hiding of this situation to be even more disgusting. I have tried to get information about this since 2016 and have be stonewalled by friends in WI. I no longer live in WI or anywhere near WI. why? lack of understanding of the law, lack of understanding of the damage that is done... It's more important to protect the reputations of the abusers than to care for the children.
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Post by 1chinesewhispers on Sept 12, 2020 11:20:54 GMT -5
Sorry 😐 for your pain and betrayal I will stay on topic . These emotions are gut wrenching . I feel your pain Why can they plead down ? Do a short bit in jail or plead down and serve no time . It is wrong and despicable to say the lest . Yes it’s wrong . But will continue if we don’t push the courts . Pleading down sometimes is to free up the case load . So not having a full trial is not heard allows more space for more serious issues . Which is SO WRONG ! The ones hurt are left and try to cope . Pretty much all religion for & churches try to speak regarding this matter .
THE TRUTH DOES NOT WANT THIS MATTER PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE . Some worker’s just are capable of that . Money talks above the POWER AND MONEY GAME . 💯 % . Those friends that circle the offender are capable of believing this doesn’t happen . Fear control as well . This subject is taboo when you directly ask . I have done so and I hear nothing because they would have to lie and so they say nothing . That child may or could be damaged forever maybe depends on the victim may some totally cannot take it and do self harm . As soon as I say it or email they stop talking period . Don’t ask don’t tell . For that being the accused shielded by professing folks is control . When it comes to light they just deny . That is sickening and evil . I have heard so many tell their stories . I feel for you very deeply . A young child may suffer forever .
Where and why do the worker’s a get out of a jail charge / card ? I feel so bad for you ., I often wonder if the court forgets the collateral damage . As you have been deeply affected . We need to report and listen when a child speaks . I would never tell a worker of such evil . I would guide them to a medical professional not a worker . Denial rules between workers and overseers or a elder . The CSA is not even close to helping . May you heal and find peace someday . Such betrayal of a FRIENDLY . Speak , share , push this matter if you even think something is wrong . So sorry you have to have this in your life Be kind to yourself . So from YYC I assure you . We have meet with legal council often . I have to medicate before we before because my mind cannot handle it Please seek help if needed please . There may be two different venues . Because there is a way to expose this sooner . Rest assured the lawyers are busy researching this vile , disgusting behaviour . At first they hesitated but now they are moving forward but not in a criminal matter we have another venue . We have and will keep searching and pushing this issue of CSA . Sickness
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Post by magpies39plus on Sept 13, 2020 0:00:18 GMT -5
Many years ago an older sister was asker the question ,Why do they allow him to stay in the work? answer was,"Good preachers are to hard to come by these days". So forget the Homo/Lesbians,even worstcurrent and past paedophiles. Yet of course Alan Kito wrote another "code off conduct" of course not using the 27 NT books that have covered such sick and mental perpetrators,not from Kito but God. OH no that is only those horrid false religions,they evasiously have you blindly believe,isn't it? Magpie,,,,,PS Of course you are joining on the International Day of Prayer.We of course need to stand beside the numbers of our christian brothers/sisters who we don't want to be a number amonght amongst the one in every 6 minutes martyred as in 2016,,, Then again I have faced flack from the Western Worlds 2x2s because of my gramatical and spelling mistakes,of course that is fare more important than the raping and torture of those of faith in many countries,oh,of course being executed for refusing "Jesus" MMM,just a burden we must carry. Magpie
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Post by magpies39plus on Sept 15, 2020 1:35:46 GMT -5
I have mentioned it before. When a old sister preacher was asked as to why is he allowed in the work? Her answer"good preachers are to hard to come by these days". $%^$%^& the poor kids and now adults who were and are victims of this perverted dirty old "antinomion". So it appears that if all the unaturals are cleaned out of the unbiblical preacher only ministry,who would be left? Magpie
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Post by 1chinesewhispers on Sept 18, 2020 13:31:41 GMT -5
Magpies39plus I can kinda tell you why . But if you listen to the words this song . It reminds me to remain silent Don’t ask . Don’t tell . Disturbed - The Sound Of Silence [Official Music VideoRB if you could post song I would appreciate it . My 15 minutes outside is ending in 3 minutes I am good . Where I need to be ! Disturbed - The Sound Of Silence [Official Music Video] Unfortunately I have defiance order . But I was excommunicated at 13 because I broke the silence .Times up
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Post by magpies39plus on Oct 25, 2020 2:24:21 GMT -5
You were obviously only worthy of the scrap heap and in the end dumped into hell? Oh if you want to go to heaven forget the Holy Spirit and Jesus it must only via sitting in a Irvine limited Gospel and Epistles 2x2 meeting,and grow long hair and stop going to a movie!! Then they may let you go to Heaven,but you won't know salvation until you stand before God and will point you left or right.....Magpie
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Post by magpies39plus on Nov 6, 2020 23:16:20 GMT -5
Of course they can't sack an active Homo/Lesbian or Paedophile!!! Glance over your State Elders(Bishops)some would have to sack themselves. In our State one was sent interstate,after a while sent back down South again. His Brother a State Elder for a while was one that us teens used to discuss amongst the Bro/Sisters we don't want in our district the next year. It seems better to them to keep antinomians,than have no one left to search your cupboards for a TV/Radio and preach their exclusive secret doctrine. Sad isn't it....Magpie
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Post by 1chinesewhispers on Nov 15, 2020 19:43:22 GMT -5
Are all religious the same ? br]This is a very similar situation . Only difference was my age . She was 15 , I was 13 . But she gathered her strength and told . But she was blamed and had to listen to her own words again . What happened to the man/child or man ! Nothing , yet people just don’t get it . This is a example of why we don’t speak about it ! Sick 🤕 no loving god would do such , but men will continue to put us down .
Will a Church Get Away With Making a Teen Listen to Recording of Her Rape?
The victim was 15 years old when she says church elders called her into a room with her mother and stepfather, sat her down, and made her listen to a recording of her own rape. A lifelong Jehovah’s Witness, the girl—who we’ll call Anna—says she was sexually assaulted by an older church member on multiple occasions. But when the church learned of it, they decided to investigate not her assailant, but her—for the crime of having sex outside of marriage. And now it’s down to the Utah Supreme Court to decide if they should get away with it. The court cases rests on the question of eccleiastical abstention, or whether the court can intervene in matters of religion. The Kingdom Hall of Jehovah’s Witnesses of Roy, Utah, claims it was engaging in regular religious practice when it forced the teenager to relive to her own rape. And so far, the courts have agreed. But lawyers for the woman, now in her late 20s, argue that their conduct is so “utterly intolerable” that it transcends this rule.
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