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Post by nathan on Sept 8, 2020 21:52:07 GMT -5
*** It's NOT my own idea at all, I just put all these pieces of the puzzle together. It was the U.S. above top Secret branch and many presidents of United States KNEW Jesus came from interior planet of Interior planet since 1940s. That informaton came from the Venusians humans looking angels ( Valiant and Donn Thor) from interior planet of Venus. They came down to help the United States to defeat and STOP the Nazi/Luciferians worshipers to wipe out the children of Israel from the face of the earth starting in Poland, France, and throughout Europe, Russia, South America, and eventually Amrica and Canada etc... In 1957 Valiant Thor came to meet President Eisenhower and Richard Nixon his name and his people came from interior planet of Venus. He came to bring gifts from Jesus to cure mankind from sicknesses, dieases, cancer, Viruses and to live longer. The Cabal/Illuminati refused the gifts and they locked Valiant in the Pentagon VIP apartment from 12/1957 to 12/1960. They did all kinds of testing, tortured on him. Valiant Thor teleported himself to New Jersey in 1959 to Howard Member UFO conference farm... The reporters took 4 of the Venusians pictures ( Valiant, Donn, Jill and Tania). One of the ex-air force photographers showed a few of Valiant Thor pictures to Frank Stranges in 1959 and he was introduce to meet Valiant Thor in person at the Pentagon VIP. Frank S. became Valiant T. Spoke person and he shared with Frank that Jesus Christ is his creator from the interior planet Venus. They work together and Valiant Thor revealed to Frank many things about Jesus. In 1990s Jesus Christ invited Frank S. to meet him in person Twice. In 2019 it was revealed that during Jimmy Carter as the President at daily intelligence briefing they told him "Jesus Christ was a Visitor from interior Venus."
*** Many of the workers and 2x2S hardly read or believe anything accept the King James Bible so, they missed out some of the most interesting history in the Universe. This is absolute garbage and a load of lies.
While he is now an old man, and his health causes him grief, I am told from someone high up in Habitat for Humanity who knows him well that,Jimmy knows nothing about what he is alleged to have been told about Jesus living in Venus, and even if a nutcase did say something like that, do you think Jimmy, a devout Baptist would have believed that?
Remember these stories come from someone who talks about the Nazis living on the other side of the moon with a secret base, when in fact they struggled to get the V2 to even make it into sub-orbital, someone who denied the Apollo 11 landing.
We are not just talking about beliefs that may or may not be provable, but events that simply did not happen, and are proven to be just the wild imaginations of the conspiracy theorists. The complete lack of credibility behind these claims, is why there isn't really a "middle ground". It is probably only an adherence to the belief of apostolic succession down to the workers that prevents an overseer stepping and stopping these wild and wacky claims.
Many workers, and friends in our country use the Amplified Bible, the New King James, or The New International Version. Some use the New American Standard. The King James is often used publicly, but often a verse when spoken on, also is referred to it's cousin in one of the other versions.
*** I KNOW exactly what I am talking about and you don't.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2020 21:53:03 GMT -5
that could explain a lot.... Meaning? If you think it is a negative then you're disagreeing with Nathan who thinks those who only reference the King James are missing out when you have a congregation that uses 4 different versions of the bible you'll get confusion and differences....but don't worry its starting to happen here too....
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Post by fixit on Sept 8, 2020 22:13:45 GMT -5
Bears repeating a half a million times. Thank you, Olea! ** Why don't you Witches, atheists ex-2×2s leave us alone, stop talking and butt out and let us 2x2s handle our own affairs! For a change. Go to the atheists board and do your thing there is no God, no Jesus, no heaven or hell belief or whatever you believe now. You won't be handling any 2x2 affairs Nate. You are way too far off the reservation.
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Post by fixit on Sept 8, 2020 22:14:32 GMT -5
Meaning? If you think it is a negative then you're disagreeing with Nathan who thinks those who only reference the King James are missing out when you have a congregation that uses 4 different versions of the bible you'll get confusion and differences....but don't worry its starting to happen here too.... It helps with understanding.
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Post by fixit on Sept 8, 2020 22:15:23 GMT -5
** We read in the book of Revelation John the apostle was able to enter heaven to see the present and the future. He saw God/Spiri sits on His throne and Christ on His throne, he saw the new heaven, earth and the New city of Jerusalem where God's people will live there. It was a physical place that John saw and experienced, where the Spirit and Physical bodies dwell in harmony. We read the humans looking angels are spirit with human bodies can live in heaven. Jesus is Spirit and he had a human resurrected body and he lives in heaven/Venus, he talked to John and showed him many things to come. Nathan where are you getting this Venus idea; that Jesus lives on Venus or in the center of Venus or anything to do with Venus? I think you are the only one on this board who believes that. Do any of the workers believe this idea? They would be gone by lunchtime if they did.
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Post by fixit on Sept 8, 2020 22:16:50 GMT -5
Of course the Workers don't believe Jesus lives in Venus jetmech , that is why we keep saying nathan is NOT a 2x2 and should start his own church. Why, do think I sharing these information on the 2x2 message board? To inform and educate the 2x2s on these things for over 10 years, many of them have read it by now.... So, they know, but don't believe it, yet! they will see and understand it some day... Because Christ/God will come back from Venus to earth again to set up His eternal kingdom on earth with His people for the 1000 yrs reign.
Vain repetition doesn't make it any more believable.
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Post by fixit on Sept 8, 2020 22:20:33 GMT -5
*** Hahaha... Of course you would ban us. We require answers to questions that you can't answer without exposing your lies and delusions. Of course you want a board where you rein supreme. Pope Nathan I. Why don't you start your own church? You are not a 2x2. *** Yes, I would ban you all from entering. Please do. That would be great.
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Post by nathan on Sept 8, 2020 22:35:54 GMT -5
** Why don't you Witches, atheists ex-2×2s leave us alone, stop talking and butt out and let us 2x2s handle our own affairs! For a change. Go to the atheists board and do your thing there is no God, no Jesus, no heaven or hell belief or whatever you believe now. You won't be handling any 2x2 affairs Nate. You are way too far off the reservation. I have been doing it for 20 years on TMB... and you were hiding, stabbing, poking, jabbing at it for 20 odd years with different alias.
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Post by nathan on Sept 8, 2020 22:37:58 GMT -5
*** Yes, I would ban you all from entering. Please do. That would be great. I banned quite a few when I had my own 2x2 message board. No, 2nd chance once a see a trouble maker I banned them for good. I would do the same if I ever started my 2x2 message board again.
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Post by Pragmatic on Sept 8, 2020 23:17:59 GMT -5
This is absolute garbage and a load of lies.
While he is now an old man, and his health causes him grief, I am told from someone high up in Habitat for Humanity who knows him well that,Jimmy knows nothing about what he is alleged to have been told about Jesus living in Venus, and even if a nutcase did say something like that, do you think Jimmy, a devout Baptist would have believed that?
Remember these stories come from someone who talks about the Nazis living on the other side of the moon with a secret base, when in fact they struggled to get the V2 to even make it into sub-orbital, someone who denied the Apollo 11 landing.
We are not just talking about beliefs that may or may not be provable, but events that simply did not happen, and are proven to be just the wild imaginations of the conspiracy theorists. The complete lack of credibility behind these claims, is why there isn't really a "middle ground". It is probably only an adherence to the belief of apostolic succession down to the workers that prevents an overseer stepping and stopping these wild and wacky claims.
Many workers, and friends in our country use the Amplified Bible, the New King James, or The New International Version. Some use the New American Standard. The King James is often used publicly, but often a verse when spoken on, also is referred to it's cousin in one of the other versions.
*** I KNOW exactly what I am talking about and you don't. Know you don't. You can only regurgitate what you view, on certain types of YouTube channels, and text that you can copy and paste from. Your self-epitomising as some form of modern day Noah "warning the population" is quite frankly delusional. I know in your mind this will only help you reinforce your position, rather than self-analyse, but that is your problem, not mine.
Go and play some sport, or some music, go fishing and do something healthier than spending all your time on here spouting conspiracy theories. This is not the forum for that.
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Post by nathan on Sept 8, 2020 23:35:05 GMT -5
*** I KNOW exactly what I am talking about and you don't. Know you don't. You can only regurgitate what you view, on certain types of YouTube channels, and text that you can copy and paste from. Your self-epitomising as some form of modern day Noah "warning the population" is quite frankly delusional. I know in your mind this will only help you reinforce your position, rather than self-analyse, but that is your problem, not mine.
Go and play some sport, or some music, go fishing and do something healthier than spending all your time on here spouting conspiracy theories. This is not the forum for that.
It's your conspiracy theories... but It's fact... The TRUTH stranger than fiction! Jesus said his 2nd coming will be like in the days of Noah.... If people KNEW what was really happened in the days of Noah then they would understand the current chaos situation today!
I want to warn about the "like" coming flood of Noah. He warned the people in his days but NONE believed him until he and his family entered the ARK! then it was too late once the ark was closed. Take heed at my words... because it will come to pass and true.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2020 0:16:44 GMT -5
Many workers, and friends in our country use the Amplified Bible, the New King James, or The New International Version. Some use the New American Standard. The King James is often used publicly, but often a verse when spoken on, also is referred to it's cousin in one of the other versions. that could explain a lot.... Explains why they are more compassionate and able to be friends with non2x2's. That is the way Christians should behave with one another.
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Post by fixit on Sept 9, 2020 0:22:03 GMT -5
Please do. That would be great. I banned quite a few when I had my own 2x2 message board. No, 2nd chance once a see a trouble maker I banned them for good. I would do the same if I ever started my 2x2 message board again.No doubt you would. People like you should never be given power over others. Nasty piece of work.
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Post by BobWilliston on Sept 9, 2020 0:39:07 GMT -5
Meaning? If you think it is a negative then you're disagreeing with Nathan who thinks those who only reference the King James are missing out when you have a congregation that uses 4 different versions of the bible you'll get confusion and differences....but don't worry its starting to happen here too.... I've heard the workers using 3 different versions in meetings -- one in a gospel meeting.
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Post by nathan on Sept 9, 2020 0:59:11 GMT -5
I banned quite a few when I had my own 2x2 message board. No, 2nd chance once a see a trouble maker I banned them for good. I would do the same if I ever started my 2x2 message board again. No doubt you would. People like you should never be given power over others. Nasty piece of work. You are much nastier and meaner than me, fixit. You should have NEVER been chosen to be a 2x2 elder, bad for 2x2 representative.
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Post by nathan on Sept 9, 2020 1:01:54 GMT -5
Nathan where are you getting this Venus idea; that Jesus lives on Venus or in the center of Venus or anything to do with Venus? I think you are the only one on this board who believes that. Do any of the workers believe this idea? To my knowledge Jetmech, he’s been asked the last question twice in recent days and it has not been answered. I wonder why? I answered Jetmech question already. Were you sleeping in class again? Go back to his question and read my replied before you accused me of this and that again.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2020 1:12:11 GMT -5
No you did not answer it.
Do any of the workers believe that Jesus lives in Hollow Venus? Yes or no?
It was not asking for an excuse as to why they should believe or why they don’t, (via your reasoning ) believe your stuff
All that is conveying is your arrogant intoxication with “ I am right about everything” and everybody else is wrong.
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Post by nathan on Sept 9, 2020 1:43:05 GMT -5
No you did not answer it. Do any of the workers believe that Jesus lives in Hollow Venus? Yes or no? It was not asking for an excuse as to why they should believe or why they don’t, (via your reasoning ) believe your stuff All that is conveying is your arrogant intoxication with “ I am right about everything” and everybody else is wrong. Yes, I did answer similar questions from RT, you and Annan... I am trying to be right most of the time. I don't always get it right 100% but close to it.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2020 1:45:56 GMT -5
We are wasting our time, Nathan is off the face of the Earth.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Sept 9, 2020 2:12:38 GMT -5
Adding to the Bible again nathan ! IT DOES NOT SAY GOD DWELLS IN VENUS ! This is a classic example of how you add or twist scripture to suit YOURSELF ! What is Morning and Evening Star? Originally, the terms "morning star" and "evening star" applied only to the brightest planet of all, Venus. Far more dazzling than any of the actual stars in the sky, Venus does not appear to twinkle, but instead glows with a steady, silvery light. Rev. 22:16 16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.Jesus said ‘I will give him the morning star’ (Rev. 2:28). What is the ‘morning star’?”This passage embraces one of the seven promises from Christ to those who “overcome” the trials and temptations of life and thus remain loyal to him to the end (see: Rev. 2:7, 11, 17, 26; 3:5, 12, 21).Jesus said in John 14 In my Father's House there are MANY mansion I go to prepare a PLACE for you, where I am there you will be also.From the Dead Sea Scroll #3 Cave #3 Valiant Thor Guardian angels human looking people are Venusians, they have been mentioned in the Dead Sea Scrolls and the in Old Testament. The Lord (Elohim) instructed his Angels, both from the Morning and Evening Star/Venus Planet, to assist Lot and his family to escape what was to befall the Cities of Sodom and Gomorrah. Genesis chapters 17,18,19. The Two Chosen ones instructed Lot and his family to drape themselves in white Garments (fine linen) and run away from the cities with great haste. Then a voice came from the darkening skies from on high and the other Heavenly Messengers, also from the Morning and Evening Star who rode in their chariots of fire saying unto all of them below, "Make haste because the judgment of Almighty God is about to fall upon these cities. We are prepared to obey His Voice and point our fire-spears towards the cities of sin and destroy them according to the Divine Will of the Father. Then a white light as bright as the sun blazed behind them and the Earth did shake with a mighty roar. The elements did separate as the cities of sin were leveled to the ground. The air above the Earth was filled with destructive dust and everyone including the animals. "The smoke rose into the heaven and did cloak the ground with destruction. Thus, the messengers, from the Stars did likewise accomplish their mission as their wheels returned to the skies where they rested with others in their home which was high above the Earth." "She who was the wife of Lot, because of her disobedience, did turn around and gaze upon the destruction. She was turned into what appeared to be the salt of the land and the deadly destructive dust that clung over the Earth did indeed cause her life to cease. The smoke and vapor from the cities rose higher and higher as the cities were laid waste in the wilderness on the plains of Zoar that morning." Jupiter frequently outshines Venus. To understand that you will need to read some astronomy.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Sept 9, 2020 2:15:01 GMT -5
You won't be handling any 2x2 affairs Nate. You are way too far off the reservation. I have been doing it for 20 years on TMB... and you were hiding, stabbing, poking, jabbing at it for 20 odd years with different alias.You do not represent 2x2's on here. You represent yourself. 2x2's I speak to in the USA reckon you are nuts and should be thrown out of the church.
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Post by Pragmatic on Sept 9, 2020 3:36:23 GMT -5
I have been doing it for 20 years on TMB... and you were hiding, stabbing, poking, jabbing at it for 20 odd years with different alias. You do not represent 2x2's on here. You represent yourself. 2x2's I speak to in the USA reckon you are nuts and should be thrown out of the church. Yup, I have had that confirmed too. It may not be too long before he gets a "tap on the shoulder"
Quote "You are much nastier and meaner than me, fixit. You should have NEVER been chosen to be a 2x2 elder, bad for 2x2 representative."
Quote " I don't always get it right 100% but close to it."
Don't these quotes validate people's assertions of religious arrogance, being judgemental, and self righteous?
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Post by fixit on Sept 9, 2020 5:51:50 GMT -5
*** I KNOW exactly what I am talking about and you don't. Arrogance. And immaturity.
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Post by nathan on Sept 9, 2020 9:08:13 GMT -5
*** I KNOW exactly what I am talking about and you don't, Pragmatic. Arrogance.
And immaturity. That is the truth I know exactly what I am talking about I have proven over and over... you doubting Thomas just don't believe it. Time will prove that I am right these things I have mentioned for over 20 years.
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Post by nathan on Sept 9, 2020 9:13:09 GMT -5
You do not represent 2x2's on here. You represent yourself. 2x2's I speak to in the USA reckon you are nuts and should be thrown out of the church. Yup, I have had that confirmed too. It may not be too long before he gets a "tap on the shoulder"
Quote "You are much nastier and meaner than me, fixit. You should have NEVER been chosen to be a 2x2 elder, bad for 2x2 representative."
Quote " I don't always get it right 100% but close to it."
Don't these quotes validate people's assertions of religious arrogance, being judgemental, and self righteous?
No, self-righteous just TELLING the TRUTH, you unbelievers and doubting Thomas don't accept the TRUTH just like the Jews in the days of Jesus keep on fighting against Him to the end. After Jesus death they began to see and understand what he said about 8000 Jews were SAVED in the feast of the Pentecost Acts 2.
Most of the disciples doubt Jesus and even many of his brothers and sisters didn't believe He was God the Christ either, but in time some of them were converted and became Christians.
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Post by Annan on Sept 9, 2020 11:11:37 GMT -5
Yup, I have had that confirmed too. It may not be too long before he gets a "tap on the shoulder"
Quote "You are much nastier and meaner than me, fixit. You should have NEVER been chosen to be a 2x2 elder, bad for 2x2 representative." Quote " I don't always get it right 100% but close to it." Don't these quotes validate people's assertions of religious arrogance, being judgemental, and self righteous?
No, self-righteous just TELLING the TRUTH, you unbelievers and doubting Thomas don't accept the TRUTH just like the Jews in the days of Jesus keep on fighting against Him to the end. After Jesus death they began to see and understand what he said about 8000 Jews were SAVED in the feast of the Pentecost Acts 2.
Most of the disciples doubt Jesus and even many of his brothers and sisters didn't believe He was God the Christ either, but in time some of them were converted and became Christians. *** So now you are comparing yourself to Jesus? Yes, Nathan, you are the king of self righteousness.
Who cares if we don't believe you? Why is it so important to you that you we do? And don't say you care about us. That is a lie. You only care about being proven right and crowned Pope Nathan I. You are a legend in your own mind.
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Post by nathan on Sept 9, 2020 13:35:34 GMT -5
No, self-righteous just TELLING the TRUTH, you unbelievers and doubting Thomas don't accept the TRUTH just like the Jews in the days of Jesus keep on fighting against Him to the end. After Jesus death they began to see and understand what he said about 8000 Jews were SAVED in the feast of the Pentecost Acts 2.
Most of the disciples doubt Jesus and even many of his brothers and sisters didn't believe He was God the Christ either, but in time some of them were converted and became Christians. *** So now you are comparing yourself to Jesus? Yes, Nathan, you are the king of self righteousness.
Who cares if we don't believe you? Why is it so important to you that you we do? And don't say you care about us. That is a lie. You only care about being proven right and crowned Pope Nathan I. You are a legend in your own mind.** WHY, are you/Witch keeps TWISTING my posts to something I didn't say or mean. You keep calling me a liar when it' s you who lies so much.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2020 15:21:22 GMT -5
No, self-righteous just TELLING the TRUTH, you unbelievers and doubting Thomas don't accept the TRUTH just like the Jews in the days of Jesus keep on fighting against Him to the end. After Jesus death they began to see and understand what he said about 8000 Jews were SAVED in the feast of the Pentecost Acts 2.
Most of the disciples doubt Jesus and even many of his brothers and sisters didn't believe He was God the Christ either, but in time some of them were converted and became Christians. *** So now you are comparing yourself to Jesus? Yes, Nathan, you are the king of self righteousness.
Who cares if we don't believe you? Why is it so important to you that you we do? And don't say you care about us. That is a lie. You only care about being proven right and crowned Pope Nathan I. You are a legend in your own mind.There is no care shown for a lost sheep or seeking soul by the self ordained ‘the messenger’ on this board. Never noticed and never felt. It’s I care for me and my voice. The delusion of the deluded.
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